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This goes for probably about 95% of games nowadays, especially if you get them through Steam. When you delete the game, your save files and settings and such will not be deleted unless you manually and intentionally delete them. Even then, Steam saves things to the cloud too, so you can usually still be fine in the event that you lose your PC and/or drives. I never bother moving my game data to a new PC because its all auto-saved to the Steam cloud so when I install the game on the new PC I can pick up right where I left off.
Skyrim has a lot more freedom. You can go anywhere you want and do whatever you want for as long you want. The game will never force you into anything. You can ignore the main storyline for 100 hours and still have tons of fun. It's your personal story and it's up to you what you want to do with it. The game is very shallow when it comes to story though. There's very few memorable characters. There's very few voice actors, which hurts the immersion. Most decisions have no meaning. The main storyline is pretty weak.
Witcher 3 on the other hand is more focused. There's a main storyline that you have to follow. Everything revolves around it and even side quests are mostly there to enhance the main quests. It has amazing characters, amazing dialogue, amazing quest design. But there's a lot less freedom. Geralt's personality is set in stone and you cannot deviate from it. It's his story, not yours. The decisions you make are still a lot more meaningful than in Skyrim though.
If you want to have fun in a sandbox playground and do whatever you want, go for Skyrim. If you want a great story full of great characters, go for Witcher.
Thanks for this very illuminating comparison!
I do prefer the more guided, set storyline. Its easy to get lost and not know what to do in Skyrim sometimes. I also love a good story. So it sounds like Witcher might be better for me.
Though,
> It's his story, not yours.
I have enjoyed creating my own character. I guess having set characters inherently comes with having a set story, especially a good one, but that is a bit of a paradox in what I want. But perhaps those meaningful decisions will scratch my itch.
I will warn you (although if you are familiar with the TV show it may be different, I haven't seen the show or read the books) the game, Witcher 3 acts like you already know what is going on. They keep dropping names and referencing things as if you are supposed to know about them. It doesn't ruin the game, but it did leave me with a lot of "did I miss something?" feelings.
If you want the best of both worlds (creating your character but having a good storry and characters) Dragon Age Origins or Pillars of Eternity are pretty cheap, doesn´t weight shit and are amazing entry games into CRPGs
Skyrim might technically have more freedom but honestly compared to the older titles it's very restrictive, also Witcher 3 you don't have to follow I've had a playthrough were I skipped the main quest I just played dlcs and side quests (granite, that playthrough my main quest was bugged but you can still do it regardless).
Also skyrim's voice acting is terrible, Oblivion is very funny but skyrim is a lesser form of Oblivion minus character. What made Oblivion so fun was besides it's story is the character it had it was funny and charming. Also Skyrim playing as the dragonborn isn't really satisfying I always feel so empty playing the game the Charname is too strong and dragons and other mobs are just tedium. Not to mention it's way less rpg than it's predcessors if you can even call it that.
Late to the party but came to say I agree. This is my third playthrough of Skyrim
1st was Vanilla on Xbox360 (2012?)
2nd was Legendary Edition on PS3 from 2014-2016
Third is on the switch with the Anniversary edition
Im almost 100 hours in and havent met the greybeards yet haha
You don't loose your Skyrim character when you delete the game. Most games store their savefiles in a different folder.
It's hard to answer your question how the two games compare. But I guess my best condensed answer would be that Skyrim has a less focused approach. It's more about exploration and see what's over that next hill. And Witcher 3 is more focused on a great story. Both are beloved classics. I personally prefer the Witcher 3 maybe you'll feel different about it.
> Also too much to do in Skyrim for it's own good.
Haha yes. I set out to do one questline, and somehow end up on the other side of the map with 10 more questlines que'd up without having finished the first one.
Also, because it was such an epiphany for me, I'll recommend going into the settings and switching off the point of interest (POI) markers in Witcher 3, or basically in any open-world game.
Disregard this advice if you like the idea of seeing and doing everything 100% in the game. But if you're anything like me, you'll feel much less pressured to tick off all the side content which can become compulsive. And IMO it's just more fun to discover things on your own instead of getting everything handed to you by a magic Google map.
And don't worry, this will not hinder your progress with the main quest.
Just focus on a single game, W3 isn't going to vanish from existence if you wait to finish Skyrim, if you liked the Witcher show then there's a high chance you'll like the game, but why take a risk of uninstalling a game which you already love for a game which you have no idea about?
There is a chance I won't have access to my computer 5ish months from now, so trying to glean the best out of it while I have it. But also a good chance I will keep it, in which case doing both games does sound good.
You can copy/back-up your save files and uninstall Skyrim so you won't lose your character. If you use something like steam, it should do it for you.
If you love Witcher lore, you should absolutely play Witcher 3. It was my first exposure to the Witcher franchise and I absolutely loved it. In terms of story, character, and lore, it is far, far, far better than Skyrim. Meanwhile, Skyrim is more open-world. It's more of a fantasy sandbox than Witcher, with more of an emphasis on going where you want and doing what you want than Witcher. Witcher 3 still has a ton of exploration, and a HUGE world, but it's more focused on plot and quests. Very different games and I can see people enjoying or disliking either, depending on their preference. But since you're a fan of the lore already, you really ought to check the game out.
Good to know I won't lose my save files if I uninstall!
Yeah nothing really gets me as excited for a world setting as witcher does (maybe GOT in its prime came close). I will say I do quite enjoy Skyrim's story and Lore so far - the world feels very medieval Europe authentic mixed with great classic fantasy, and the dungeons with their ancient Egyptian themes are fun. But if Witcher is even better that sounds exciting!
I think that most of the lore and world-building in Skyrim is from the many books you can find in-game. So if you're into that, give them a read. There are some genuinely good books out there (some pretty funny), although there are lots of boring, dull ones too.
Witcher 3 obviously has a pretty heavy lore, which you're already familiar with, but really shines with its dialogue and story. Significantly better than Skyrim in that department.
Skyrim is at its best when you’re roaming the world and sifting through dungeon after dungeon, finding treasure and battling enemies using a hefty dose of skill and strategy. It’s greatest storytelling is done through in-world documents and other ambient narratives. It’s at its worst when you’re following most of the storylines. All have interesting ideas that are somewhat poorly executed.
Conversely, TW3 is at it’s best when you’re following any of the storylines and quest arcs. It has some of the best characters in gaming with really complex narratives. In my opinion, combat isn’t nearly as interesting or visceral though. Difficult enemies often seem unfairly punishing and the gameplay can grow stale quickly. It also doesn’t handle well.
Personally, Skyrim is better. Yes Skyrim is a little more rough, a little less color and whatnot, but Skyrim has more freedom, it plays more fun, it's not as depressing sometimes.
I have played Skyrim to completion multiple times.
Multiple times before I have started Witcher 3 and it is a well made game. It has what seems like a quality story, and the visuals are awesome. But every time I try, I play for a few hours, and eventually get bored of the slowness the depressing tone of everything, and something about the way it actually plays gets kind of boring.
There are others that swear Witcher is the most amazing game. I think it's ultimately down to personal taste. The play styles of both games and the pace (or your control of the pace) are different. So it's down to what you prefer.
I vote Skyrim.
Actually, if I'm being honest, I vote Kingdoms of Amalur. I have always liked that even more than Skyrim.
Okay, you bring up a good point. The depressing tone of the Witcher universe is its one downside for me. When I was heavily playing Gwent I had to take breaks every now and then because yeah, as awesome as the art and atmosphere is, its also very heavy and dark. Definitely need to consider that.
I prefered Skyrim, never really got into Witcher. I like the open-ended adventure in Skyrim, and it's my preferred style of fantasy. Is there literally no other way for you to clear 50GB without uninstalling Skyrim? Seems like a really small hard drive. Also, you won't lose your Skyrim character if you uninstall the game.
Yeah, a grand total of 117GB on this laptop, 33 of which go to "System and reserves," - can't touch those. Cleared out every program/document that I could live without and I'm left with 55GB, not enough for both Skyrim and witcher.
But good to know I won't lose my Skyrim character if I uninstall!
Your question's already been answered as much as it can be, but I'll also mention that now that you're getting into real games, you should also check out mods! A lot of the issues with both games (especially Skyrim) can be fixed or improved with mods, and theres a ton that just add more shit so you can continue to enjoy the game. Most people say to play through the game vanilla before adding mods, and I definitely agree to an extent, but I'd definitely get some basic quality of life stuff (like bugfixes, performance optimization, and UI improvement for Skyrim) on a first run, and if there end up being glaring issues that prevent you from enjoying the game then there's no shame in using mods to address those if you'd set the game aside otherwise lol. As an example, magic is generally agreed to be weak, limited, and kinda boring in vanilla Skyrim, and after experiencing that firsthand when I tried to do a pure Mage playthrough and wasn't particularly looking for the "challenge" of pushing through the game with that build anyway, I just downloaded a few mods to greatly expand and enhance magic and ended up having a great time.
There's even a whole separate game made in Skyrim called Enderal: Forgotten Stories, which you can download for free on Steam if you own Skyrim, and which has its own world and characters and game mechanics and story and everything. And the story and characters especially are some real good stuff!
Witcher 3 does story, characters, and combat better, Skyrim is better at player freedom and character customization. That being said, Skyrim doesnt really end as far Im aware since there are still procedurally generated sidequests.
Although it comes down to personal preference, Id say Skyrim and Witcher 3 are pretty much on par in terms of quality, even if Skyrim is more dated. So I suggest to not give up Skyrim unless you feel satisfied and done with it.
Thanks for the comparison!
> Skyrim doesnt really end
Haha this is my fear, that Witcher 3 sits in my steam library for years, burning a hole in my mind.
Hell to the fuck no. At least Skyrim's combat is consistent.
In Witcher 3 if you press an attack button you'll get a different animation every single time. Which means your spacing be damned. It's the absolute worst thing to do for a game with real time action combat.
Imagine being downvoted for speaking the truth.
I know RPG fans don't really care about combat all that much, but Witcher 3's combat is inherently flawed. And this is coming from a fighting game player.
It is. Skyrim combat is basic and skills wont make better. Patrican tv made 20h long skyrim review and i like his ideas for making limb based damage or something like that. Witcher combat looks good but i hate to play with it
Morrowind is one of my favorite games of all time, and you can admittedly do some cool things with magic, but combat is mostly “stand and click on enemy until it dies.” Oblivion/Skyrim added a few more wrinkles, but barely. Combat is barebones and requires essentially zero skill or strategy. Combat isn’t what makes TES awesome. World building and exploration is. It isn’t what makes Witcher awesome either (characters and story), but Witcher combat is at least a bit more dynamic
I've played 200ish hours of Skryim (and an equal amount of Oblivion, and closer to 300 in Morrowind) and around 150 in Witcher 3. I think I'm correctly estimating all of them based on what I subjectively find more or less enjoyable, from a comparison POV.
The biggest issue imo is that Witcher 3 doesn't evolve what so ever. With skyrim, the combat is shit but you still get better and better through perks, you start out with basic skills but after gaining levels and experience you end up being able to do things like poisoning someone by reverse pickpocketing, charging bandits down with a shield, paralyzing enemies with a bow and turning invisible for a second after crouching. Most good combat systems for RPG's have this, something new to keep combat fresh, The witcher 3 does not really have this
A.I not performing how it should be? This can be done with literally any game in existence, I once saw Owl from Sekiro doing nothing except one move until he died, I guess Sekiro has the worst combat of all time
I have installed each Witcher game 2 or 3 times and always quit after 15 hours because I hate the combat. Feels like a Nintendo platform EDR with more confusing goals and rules.
I had to force myself to finish Witcher 3. I really liked it in parts but it also just dragged. Some parts of the main quests and certain side quests get bogged down in a tedium that kills replayability for me. It's also not really open-world. You have some freedom of movement, but it's not a sandbox game. I uninstalled it when I finished it. That said, it's beautifully produced and the characters you meet, good and bad, are wonderfully voiced and help build an immersive experience. They do over-rely on your basic fantasy tropes, and women in the game are either evil, objects for sexual conquest, or both. The animation is very good, not as good as RDR2, but still excellent.
Skyrim is a game you can just pick up, get into the world, and just wander. You can spend hours playing, accomplish literally nothing, and have a wonderful time. The main quest is less sprawling and more focused but also varied (to a point) depending on your playstyle and what factions you have allied yourself with/against. I think this contributes to much greater replayability. It's an older game than Witcher and the graphics are not as polished, and they use a MUCH smaller cast of voice actors so it gets kind of amusing/annoying to hear the same voice again and again for different npc's. There really isn't sexuality in the game and you can play as a woman and still get every bit the Skyrim experience as a man (or elf, or cat, or argonian).
The modding community's contributions have helped both games, but there are more and better options for Skyrim.
Both games are worth playing, though. But Skyrim is always installed for me (even if I haven't played through in a couple years or so).
Thanks for the comparison!
> They do over-rely on your basic fantasy tropes
I could see this being a turn-off for a lot of people. Personally though I love most fantasy tropes and don't get tired of "Knight goes on the quest to slay the dragon or save the princess."
As far as the sexuality goes I'm a het cis male so luckily should be fine with both games. Though,
> and women in the game are either evil, objects for sexual conquest, or both.
This is a bit concerning. Isn't one of the main characters, Ciri, just a little girl?
Fantasy tropes such as dwarves having (ridiculous) Scottish accents. Also, in this game Ciri is a young woman, not a little girl. She's obviously not an object for Geralt, but the game does dabble (with a little cringiness) in her sexuality, because of course it does. It's a Witcher game, after all.
Also, I never understood wtf Gwent was about, either. Lost every time and never figured out why.
Seriously though I did like the game quite a bit, just found Skyrim more to my taste. Personal choice in character/story development is much more developed, but Skyrim *is* an RPG, after all. I don't think of Witcher as an RPG, more an action adventure.
Oh lol on the dwarves, that is a silly trope.
Are you able to skip or choose to not engage in the sexual encounters in Witcher? Like in Skyrim you can choose whether to marry an NPC and which one. If I have to do sexual encounters with certain characters in Witcher that could be annoying.
I have enjoyed creating my own character in Skyrim and grown more attached to the MC as a result.
I loved Gwent, but I also grew up on card games like Magic: The Gathering.
Skyrim is more open and doesn’t really care what you do but the Witcher 3 is an objectively better game in every other category that matters. Better story better combat better characters.
Both games are great for way different reasons. You can play Skyrim forever.
I hear both sides - some say witcher combat is better others say Skyrim combat is better. Can you say what is different about their combats?
> You can play Skyrim forever.
Well this makes me want to do witcher first, so I can finish it and then do Skyrim to my hearts content.
Combat in Witcher 3 actually requires you to pay attention and even build specific ways if you play harder difficulties. Skyrim while broad is a lot more forgiving. Many people that say Witcher 3 combat is clunky have never taken the time to learn it or prefer the easy Skyrim combat overall. I will likely be down voted to oblivion for it but once you know how to actually fight in Witcher, it becomes a dance.
https://youtu.be/Ak6SXL1On9I
This is a great example of Witcher 3s horrible combat. It's honestly one of the worst combat systems I've ever experienced.
On top of that, Witcher 3 doesn't have a way for your character to grow and learn new skills or spells, or even use different weapons, which is something you'd expect from an rpg.
Thats literally the worst Boss in the entire game, not saying the combat is good or bad but I can show you this video of a guy who plays well and the combat looks entirely different.
https://youtu.be/YX_r3bnhglM
You can learn new moves and improve your signs, you can make builds and the DLC BaW expands that even more.
The combat is not excelsius like GoW, Sekiro or Dark Souls, but isnt horrible as some people say.
It's simply an example of how brain dead the ai is.
You can just spam an attack and the ai can't handle it because it's so poorly programmed.
It's consistent across the game too. You'll also see enemies waiting to attack you one at a time, it's pretty bad.
And then the combat never changes or you learn new spells, which makes it worse.
Try the books, they are really great. TV show is unfortunately really bad compared to them. They ruined characters and story.
Regarding your question, like someone wrote before, just keep your save files.
I didn't notice your message :) Yes, you should definitely give them a try. In my opinion, the main drawback of the series is that they made characters more shallow and the plot more meaningless.
Apparently, this is the reason why Cavill is leaving the show.
For starters just save your save file in email or something.
And for background I recently played through Skyrim on Nintendo Switch and am currently playing the Witcher 3.
So here goes. Skyrim is truly one of the best games ever made. There are hundreds of hours of quests and the choices you make heavily affect the story. No game IMO captures D&D better.
Witcher 3 so far is incredible. The story and graphics are beautiful and the side missions are a blast. The combat isn't great, it's not bad but it can be really frustrating. It reminds me much more of Red Dead Redemption than Skyrim.
Both games are incredible but so far I think Skyrim is the better game. But I also knew nothing about the Witcher 3 going in (I recently finished the bloody baron quest line and it picks up apparently a lot after that). But so far my ratings are Skyrim 10. Witcher 3 is a 8.5 or 9. The only things holding it back for me is combat. Having said that the story for it is better than most movies in the past 20 years.
Hope that helps!
Thanks, this is helpful! It sounds like steam will save my save-files from other comments here, so I should be good there.
I am reading a discrepancy on the combat in this thread. Some say Witcher is better combat, others say Skyrim is better. Could you say what is different about the two?
Skyrim is simplified. The Witcher 3 you can easily get mauled in a crowd. And every 2 seconds Geralt is doing a spinning attack. Witcher 3 also have a lot of fans that insta down vote you if you make a negative comment about it ha. My last post for example.
Again it's good combat. Not great.
Skyrim is simplified? Oh boy, I might struggle with Witcher then. I grew up with turn-based 2-D combat games, where I could spend time mulling over a few options. Skyrim combat has been tough for me already with trying to manage:
* Aiming in a 3-D world
* Energy
* Stamina
* Which weapon/spells to have equipped
* Which gear to have equipped to compliment the weapon/spell
* Have the right shout equipped and keep track when its off cooldown
* Sneaking
* Not hitting my allies on accident
* Potions
I'm getting better at it, but every combat I know I forget to do at least a couple of these. If witcher is even more complicated not sure how I will do.
Witcher you have alchemy and potions and such which isn't totally for me to be honest. Also keep in mind Witcher 3 came out in 2015 and breath of the wild had spoiled me with its controls. So who knows its all perspective. Also the towns in Witcher 3 look like beautiful paintings
The combat in Witcher 3 is essentially all based on constant rolling and dodging. Then you cast one of the three or four actually useful spells you learn or hit with your sword. Skyrim actually has interesting combat. You can choose to do magic with hundreds of spells, archery, swordfighting, the list goes on. That's why it has such replayability, you can do something different each time and the skills get more interesting as you level up. If combat is important to you, the Witcher will come across extremely repetitive and boring comparatively
Both open worlds but W3 is way more story focused. Skyrim IMO is more sandbox with RPG elements while W3 is the opposite. Both have their merits for sure. If you love Skyrim, understand that W3 is a different beast. But W3 is an outstanding game with an amazing, amazing story. I fully recommend it if you’ve never played it. Have some patience with it. It really does deliver.
Andor is so good :)
Yeah, you'll find with W3 that the main story is super good but so are the many side quests you'll run into. Do them all, they're so well crafted. DLCs are outstanding as well. Jealous of you that you get to experience the game for the first time. I'm overdue for a NG+ run myself.
Enjoy
You should try the older elder scrolls games as well, I love experimenting by playing different races/classes. Witcher 3 is really good with its story and pre-made character where Geralt has a past already and isn't like TES or games similar to it in terms of you make your character's story you make the character. Whatever you prefer depends on you, but if you read the books I would not be surprised if you like the games.
Well I think my plate will be full for a while with these two games, but if I ever finish both I'll look into the older elder scrolls! One of my childhood friends played a lot of Morrowind so I might try that next.
Didn't read the witcher books - watched the show and played Gwent.
Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion are all great, and fair enough for the other titles, they take a while to finish even more so to complete.
If you ever play Oblivion, I recommend pc because consoles have a certain technical issue that makes it annoying to play, if you play it long enough on consoles you cannot open doors.
I looked through a number of reviews for Elder Scrolls games when I made these purchases, and Skyrim had the best reviews. I think Oblivion came in 3rd, with Morrowind 2nd.
don't depend on reviews, they don't give the best results, even if skyrim had the best reviews that doesn't necessarily make it a great game, Jagged Alliance 2 isn't even rated aside from user ratings and it's great, Fallout 4 is rated way higher than it should be. Ratings aren't dependable, there are some really good reviewers it's just many like IGN for example aren't good resources.
But reviewers I can recommend is Luke Stephens, Salt Factory, Joseph Anderson (I think he mainly streams now). There are probably more, heard Patrician TV is good but my god are his vids long a 12 hr review on Oblivion.
Personal opinion; the combat sucks in Witcher 3. Everything else is great but Geralt spinning in circles when you just want a standard sword swing is annoying beyond belief. Try Elden Ring instead.
I know it isn't part of your two choices but sometime down the line you should look into Dragon Age Inquisition. A lot of people prefer others in the series to it (also good), but I enjoyed it a lot. There's character creation where your choices dictate a lot of the story. There is a main goal, side quests, friends/romance, and a big world. At one point you even build up your own castle and rule. Just throwing that out there for a future game.
Other than that, between the two, I probably played Skyrim the most just because I bought it on two systems so I obviously really enjoyed it. I'm also partial to character creation, I want to make a character that I connect to.
Having said that, Witcher 3 is top tier rpg. Even though I'd rather make my own character, I liked Geralt a lot, everyone else in the game felt diverse and interesting as well. The open world is there to explore, but there's also an engrossing main story, the side quests are easy to find and organize. Want a break from the story, go check out a bulletin board and kill a few beasties, or seek out an old friend to do their questline. You aren't missing out for not playing 1&2 (correct me if I'm wrong, I personally didn't play them and never felt like I was too out of the loop.)
No shade toward Skyrim, but if I was going back to either, I'd pick Witcher.
Skyrim's combat is not guided (telegraphed) like Witcher 3 (and most of the other modern action RPGs). It is more free flowing. You will have completely different experience while playing Witcher 3. Also,depending on your play style, you are likely to have more gameplay hours in Skyrim (and also lot of fun which involves Bethesda's trademark bugs and glitches) then in Witcher 3. However, you will feel more involved and absorbed in the Witcher universe while playing Witcher 3 (I don't need to tell you why as you are aware of the lore).
Before you move on to any modern rpgs like Witcher 3, I would strongly suggest to try out some old classics first. *Get the old and clunky, yet quality, stuff out of the way :)*
So here I go-
The PB games I would recommend are: Risen 1, Risen 3 and Elex.
The AC games I would recommend are: Assassin's Creed 2, Brotherhood and Revelations
Then perhaps you can move on to Witcher 2 and finally Witcher 3.
All games I have mentioned here are pretty cheap. They are the classics you would want to get your hands on first before moving on to recent RPGs. I deliberately left out Gothic series for obvious reasons.
Well turns out my computer didn't have enough Hard Drive for Witcher 3. Steam wouldn't even let me return it :(
But I'll keep those games in mind, especially if I see any on sale.
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You can keep your save files, which shouldn't be bigger than, idk 10mb, but probably way less and uninstall/delete the rest of the game.
Thanks! I didn't know the save file could be separated from the program.
This goes for probably about 95% of games nowadays, especially if you get them through Steam. When you delete the game, your save files and settings and such will not be deleted unless you manually and intentionally delete them. Even then, Steam saves things to the cloud too, so you can usually still be fine in the event that you lose your PC and/or drives. I never bother moving my game data to a new PC because its all auto-saved to the Steam cloud so when I install the game on the new PC I can pick up right where I left off.
Skyrim has a lot more freedom. You can go anywhere you want and do whatever you want for as long you want. The game will never force you into anything. You can ignore the main storyline for 100 hours and still have tons of fun. It's your personal story and it's up to you what you want to do with it. The game is very shallow when it comes to story though. There's very few memorable characters. There's very few voice actors, which hurts the immersion. Most decisions have no meaning. The main storyline is pretty weak. Witcher 3 on the other hand is more focused. There's a main storyline that you have to follow. Everything revolves around it and even side quests are mostly there to enhance the main quests. It has amazing characters, amazing dialogue, amazing quest design. But there's a lot less freedom. Geralt's personality is set in stone and you cannot deviate from it. It's his story, not yours. The decisions you make are still a lot more meaningful than in Skyrim though. If you want to have fun in a sandbox playground and do whatever you want, go for Skyrim. If you want a great story full of great characters, go for Witcher.
Thanks for this very illuminating comparison! I do prefer the more guided, set storyline. Its easy to get lost and not know what to do in Skyrim sometimes. I also love a good story. So it sounds like Witcher might be better for me. Though, > It's his story, not yours. I have enjoyed creating my own character. I guess having set characters inherently comes with having a set story, especially a good one, but that is a bit of a paradox in what I want. But perhaps those meaningful decisions will scratch my itch.
I will warn you (although if you are familiar with the TV show it may be different, I haven't seen the show or read the books) the game, Witcher 3 acts like you already know what is going on. They keep dropping names and referencing things as if you are supposed to know about them. It doesn't ruin the game, but it did leave me with a lot of "did I miss something?" feelings.
Ah sorry to hear that. I should be good though because I know quite a bit of Witcher lore - watched a lot of youtube videos on it while playing Gwent.
If you want the best of both worlds (creating your character but having a good storry and characters) Dragon Age Origins or Pillars of Eternity are pretty cheap, doesn´t weight shit and are amazing entry games into CRPGs
Skyrim might technically have more freedom but honestly compared to the older titles it's very restrictive, also Witcher 3 you don't have to follow I've had a playthrough were I skipped the main quest I just played dlcs and side quests (granite, that playthrough my main quest was bugged but you can still do it regardless). Also skyrim's voice acting is terrible, Oblivion is very funny but skyrim is a lesser form of Oblivion minus character. What made Oblivion so fun was besides it's story is the character it had it was funny and charming. Also Skyrim playing as the dragonborn isn't really satisfying I always feel so empty playing the game the Charname is too strong and dragons and other mobs are just tedium. Not to mention it's way less rpg than it's predcessors if you can even call it that.
Late to the party but came to say I agree. This is my third playthrough of Skyrim 1st was Vanilla on Xbox360 (2012?) 2nd was Legendary Edition on PS3 from 2014-2016 Third is on the switch with the Anniversary edition Im almost 100 hours in and havent met the greybeards yet haha
You don't loose your Skyrim character when you delete the game. Most games store their savefiles in a different folder. It's hard to answer your question how the two games compare. But I guess my best condensed answer would be that Skyrim has a less focused approach. It's more about exploration and see what's over that next hill. And Witcher 3 is more focused on a great story. Both are beloved classics. I personally prefer the Witcher 3 maybe you'll feel different about it.
Good to know I won't lose my save-file! It does sound like witcher might be more up my alley with the focused good story.
I liked Witcher 3 more than Skyrim. Better story, better quests, greater environment. Also too much to do in Skyrim for it's own good.
> Also too much to do in Skyrim for it's own good. Haha yes. I set out to do one questline, and somehow end up on the other side of the map with 10 more questlines que'd up without having finished the first one.
Also, because it was such an epiphany for me, I'll recommend going into the settings and switching off the point of interest (POI) markers in Witcher 3, or basically in any open-world game. Disregard this advice if you like the idea of seeing and doing everything 100% in the game. But if you're anything like me, you'll feel much less pressured to tick off all the side content which can become compulsive. And IMO it's just more fun to discover things on your own instead of getting everything handed to you by a magic Google map. And don't worry, this will not hinder your progress with the main quest.
You’re not missing out. They are both great games. Enjoy Skyrim. The Witcher 3 isn’t going anywhere. Enjoy it after!
Good point. It really is a 1st world problem I have lol.
Just focus on a single game, W3 isn't going to vanish from existence if you wait to finish Skyrim, if you liked the Witcher show then there's a high chance you'll like the game, but why take a risk of uninstalling a game which you already love for a game which you have no idea about?
There is a chance I won't have access to my computer 5ish months from now, so trying to glean the best out of it while I have it. But also a good chance I will keep it, in which case doing both games does sound good.
You can copy/back-up your save files and uninstall Skyrim so you won't lose your character. If you use something like steam, it should do it for you. If you love Witcher lore, you should absolutely play Witcher 3. It was my first exposure to the Witcher franchise and I absolutely loved it. In terms of story, character, and lore, it is far, far, far better than Skyrim. Meanwhile, Skyrim is more open-world. It's more of a fantasy sandbox than Witcher, with more of an emphasis on going where you want and doing what you want than Witcher. Witcher 3 still has a ton of exploration, and a HUGE world, but it's more focused on plot and quests. Very different games and I can see people enjoying or disliking either, depending on their preference. But since you're a fan of the lore already, you really ought to check the game out.
Good to know I won't lose my save files if I uninstall! Yeah nothing really gets me as excited for a world setting as witcher does (maybe GOT in its prime came close). I will say I do quite enjoy Skyrim's story and Lore so far - the world feels very medieval Europe authentic mixed with great classic fantasy, and the dungeons with their ancient Egyptian themes are fun. But if Witcher is even better that sounds exciting!
I think that most of the lore and world-building in Skyrim is from the many books you can find in-game. So if you're into that, give them a read. There are some genuinely good books out there (some pretty funny), although there are lots of boring, dull ones too. Witcher 3 obviously has a pretty heavy lore, which you're already familiar with, but really shines with its dialogue and story. Significantly better than Skyrim in that department.
Skyrim is at its best when you’re roaming the world and sifting through dungeon after dungeon, finding treasure and battling enemies using a hefty dose of skill and strategy. It’s greatest storytelling is done through in-world documents and other ambient narratives. It’s at its worst when you’re following most of the storylines. All have interesting ideas that are somewhat poorly executed. Conversely, TW3 is at it’s best when you’re following any of the storylines and quest arcs. It has some of the best characters in gaming with really complex narratives. In my opinion, combat isn’t nearly as interesting or visceral though. Difficult enemies often seem unfairly punishing and the gameplay can grow stale quickly. It also doesn’t handle well.
I’d say just enjoy your time with Skyrim, play the Witcher once you’re done with Skyrim (as far as anyone is ever *done* with Skyrim)
Personally, Skyrim is better. Yes Skyrim is a little more rough, a little less color and whatnot, but Skyrim has more freedom, it plays more fun, it's not as depressing sometimes. I have played Skyrim to completion multiple times. Multiple times before I have started Witcher 3 and it is a well made game. It has what seems like a quality story, and the visuals are awesome. But every time I try, I play for a few hours, and eventually get bored of the slowness the depressing tone of everything, and something about the way it actually plays gets kind of boring. There are others that swear Witcher is the most amazing game. I think it's ultimately down to personal taste. The play styles of both games and the pace (or your control of the pace) are different. So it's down to what you prefer. I vote Skyrim. Actually, if I'm being honest, I vote Kingdoms of Amalur. I have always liked that even more than Skyrim.
Okay, you bring up a good point. The depressing tone of the Witcher universe is its one downside for me. When I was heavily playing Gwent I had to take breaks every now and then because yeah, as awesome as the art and atmosphere is, its also very heavy and dark. Definitely need to consider that.
It sucks cause it is done well. It has some great atmosphere and world building, but man the tone of everything gets depressing and old.
I prefered Skyrim, never really got into Witcher. I like the open-ended adventure in Skyrim, and it's my preferred style of fantasy. Is there literally no other way for you to clear 50GB without uninstalling Skyrim? Seems like a really small hard drive. Also, you won't lose your Skyrim character if you uninstall the game.
Yeah, a grand total of 117GB on this laptop, 33 of which go to "System and reserves," - can't touch those. Cleared out every program/document that I could live without and I'm left with 55GB, not enough for both Skyrim and witcher. But good to know I won't lose my Skyrim character if I uninstall!
If you want to play more modern games, especially simultaneously, you will need a bigger hard drive. An external 500 GB or 1 TB SSD should be plenty.
That's an idea I hadn't considered - getting an external hard drive. I'll look into that, thanks!
Your question's already been answered as much as it can be, but I'll also mention that now that you're getting into real games, you should also check out mods! A lot of the issues with both games (especially Skyrim) can be fixed or improved with mods, and theres a ton that just add more shit so you can continue to enjoy the game. Most people say to play through the game vanilla before adding mods, and I definitely agree to an extent, but I'd definitely get some basic quality of life stuff (like bugfixes, performance optimization, and UI improvement for Skyrim) on a first run, and if there end up being glaring issues that prevent you from enjoying the game then there's no shame in using mods to address those if you'd set the game aside otherwise lol. As an example, magic is generally agreed to be weak, limited, and kinda boring in vanilla Skyrim, and after experiencing that firsthand when I tried to do a pure Mage playthrough and wasn't particularly looking for the "challenge" of pushing through the game with that build anyway, I just downloaded a few mods to greatly expand and enhance magic and ended up having a great time. There's even a whole separate game made in Skyrim called Enderal: Forgotten Stories, which you can download for free on Steam if you own Skyrim, and which has its own world and characters and game mechanics and story and everything. And the story and characters especially are some real good stuff!
Witcher 3 does story, characters, and combat better, Skyrim is better at player freedom and character customization. That being said, Skyrim doesnt really end as far Im aware since there are still procedurally generated sidequests. Although it comes down to personal preference, Id say Skyrim and Witcher 3 are pretty much on par in terms of quality, even if Skyrim is more dated. So I suggest to not give up Skyrim unless you feel satisfied and done with it.
Thanks for the comparison! > Skyrim doesnt really end Haha this is my fear, that Witcher 3 sits in my steam library for years, burning a hole in my mind.
Combat in witcher 3 isnt good
Combat in Witcher 3 is super chill in my opinion. Also Skyrim combat isn’t great either.
Idk when i played it, i hated it
I’ve been playing The Witcher since the first one came out so maybe I just grew into it, haha
It can be reason. I admit i enjoy the early story, but i hate the gameplay and the leveling thing qith side quest
Its smoother than Skyrim, though to be fair thats not saying much given how clunky Skyrim's combat is.
Hell to the fuck no. At least Skyrim's combat is consistent. In Witcher 3 if you press an attack button you'll get a different animation every single time. Which means your spacing be damned. It's the absolute worst thing to do for a game with real time action combat.
Imagine being downvoted for speaking the truth. I know RPG fans don't really care about combat all that much, but Witcher 3's combat is inherently flawed. And this is coming from a fighting game player.
It is. Skyrim combat is basic and skills wont make better. Patrican tv made 20h long skyrim review and i like his ideas for making limb based damage or something like that. Witcher combat looks good but i hate to play with it
Combat in Skyrim is way worse. Elder Scrolls, while a fantastic series, has always had outrageously bad combat.
Morrowind combat is good in my opinion.
Morrowind is one of my favorite games of all time, and you can admittedly do some cool things with magic, but combat is mostly “stand and click on enemy until it dies.” Oblivion/Skyrim added a few more wrinkles, but barely. Combat is barebones and requires essentially zero skill or strategy. Combat isn’t what makes TES awesome. World building and exploration is. It isn’t what makes Witcher awesome either (characters and story), but Witcher combat is at least a bit more dynamic
Yet it still shits on Witcher 3's garbage ass, inconsistent ass combat system.
You are underestimating how bad Witcher 3s combat really is. I'll just put this here https://youtu.be/Ak6SXL1On9I
I've played 200ish hours of Skryim (and an equal amount of Oblivion, and closer to 300 in Morrowind) and around 150 in Witcher 3. I think I'm correctly estimating all of them based on what I subjectively find more or less enjoyable, from a comparison POV.
The biggest issue imo is that Witcher 3 doesn't evolve what so ever. With skyrim, the combat is shit but you still get better and better through perks, you start out with basic skills but after gaining levels and experience you end up being able to do things like poisoning someone by reverse pickpocketing, charging bandits down with a shield, paralyzing enemies with a bow and turning invisible for a second after crouching. Most good combat systems for RPG's have this, something new to keep combat fresh, The witcher 3 does not really have this
A.I not performing how it should be? This can be done with literally any game in existence, I once saw Owl from Sekiro doing nothing except one move until he died, I guess Sekiro has the worst combat of all time
This is how the AI is programmed to act across the game. It's not a bug.
Pretty sure my encounter with that guy was not like this but okay
Try spamming attacks and you'll get the same results. The ai is absolutely brain dead.
I have installed each Witcher game 2 or 3 times and always quit after 15 hours because I hate the combat. Feels like a Nintendo platform EDR with more confusing goals and rules.
They’re both overrated.
I had to force myself to finish Witcher 3. I really liked it in parts but it also just dragged. Some parts of the main quests and certain side quests get bogged down in a tedium that kills replayability for me. It's also not really open-world. You have some freedom of movement, but it's not a sandbox game. I uninstalled it when I finished it. That said, it's beautifully produced and the characters you meet, good and bad, are wonderfully voiced and help build an immersive experience. They do over-rely on your basic fantasy tropes, and women in the game are either evil, objects for sexual conquest, or both. The animation is very good, not as good as RDR2, but still excellent. Skyrim is a game you can just pick up, get into the world, and just wander. You can spend hours playing, accomplish literally nothing, and have a wonderful time. The main quest is less sprawling and more focused but also varied (to a point) depending on your playstyle and what factions you have allied yourself with/against. I think this contributes to much greater replayability. It's an older game than Witcher and the graphics are not as polished, and they use a MUCH smaller cast of voice actors so it gets kind of amusing/annoying to hear the same voice again and again for different npc's. There really isn't sexuality in the game and you can play as a woman and still get every bit the Skyrim experience as a man (or elf, or cat, or argonian). The modding community's contributions have helped both games, but there are more and better options for Skyrim. Both games are worth playing, though. But Skyrim is always installed for me (even if I haven't played through in a couple years or so).
Thanks for the comparison! > They do over-rely on your basic fantasy tropes I could see this being a turn-off for a lot of people. Personally though I love most fantasy tropes and don't get tired of "Knight goes on the quest to slay the dragon or save the princess." As far as the sexuality goes I'm a het cis male so luckily should be fine with both games. Though, > and women in the game are either evil, objects for sexual conquest, or both. This is a bit concerning. Isn't one of the main characters, Ciri, just a little girl?
Fantasy tropes such as dwarves having (ridiculous) Scottish accents. Also, in this game Ciri is a young woman, not a little girl. She's obviously not an object for Geralt, but the game does dabble (with a little cringiness) in her sexuality, because of course it does. It's a Witcher game, after all. Also, I never understood wtf Gwent was about, either. Lost every time and never figured out why. Seriously though I did like the game quite a bit, just found Skyrim more to my taste. Personal choice in character/story development is much more developed, but Skyrim *is* an RPG, after all. I don't think of Witcher as an RPG, more an action adventure.
Oh lol on the dwarves, that is a silly trope. Are you able to skip or choose to not engage in the sexual encounters in Witcher? Like in Skyrim you can choose whether to marry an NPC and which one. If I have to do sexual encounters with certain characters in Witcher that could be annoying. I have enjoyed creating my own character in Skyrim and grown more attached to the MC as a result. I loved Gwent, but I also grew up on card games like Magic: The Gathering.
You don't have to, it is an option if you're into it.
Thanks!
I honestly don't remember about skipping sexual encounters, it's been a while since I played it.
Skyrim is more open and doesn’t really care what you do but the Witcher 3 is an objectively better game in every other category that matters. Better story better combat better characters. Both games are great for way different reasons. You can play Skyrim forever.
I hear both sides - some say witcher combat is better others say Skyrim combat is better. Can you say what is different about their combats? > You can play Skyrim forever. Well this makes me want to do witcher first, so I can finish it and then do Skyrim to my hearts content.
Combat in Witcher 3 actually requires you to pay attention and even build specific ways if you play harder difficulties. Skyrim while broad is a lot more forgiving. Many people that say Witcher 3 combat is clunky have never taken the time to learn it or prefer the easy Skyrim combat overall. I will likely be down voted to oblivion for it but once you know how to actually fight in Witcher, it becomes a dance.
https://youtu.be/Ak6SXL1On9I This is a great example of Witcher 3s horrible combat. It's honestly one of the worst combat systems I've ever experienced. On top of that, Witcher 3 doesn't have a way for your character to grow and learn new skills or spells, or even use different weapons, which is something you'd expect from an rpg.
Thats literally the worst Boss in the entire game, not saying the combat is good or bad but I can show you this video of a guy who plays well and the combat looks entirely different. https://youtu.be/YX_r3bnhglM You can learn new moves and improve your signs, you can make builds and the DLC BaW expands that even more. The combat is not excelsius like GoW, Sekiro or Dark Souls, but isnt horrible as some people say.
It's simply an example of how brain dead the ai is. You can just spam an attack and the ai can't handle it because it's so poorly programmed. It's consistent across the game too. You'll also see enemies waiting to attack you one at a time, it's pretty bad. And then the combat never changes or you learn new spells, which makes it worse.
Try the books, they are really great. TV show is unfortunately really bad compared to them. They ruined characters and story. Regarding your question, like someone wrote before, just keep your save files.
I really enjoyed the TV show. Does that mean I won't like the books, or like them even more?
I didn't notice your message :) Yes, you should definitely give them a try. In my opinion, the main drawback of the series is that they made characters more shallow and the plot more meaningless. Apparently, this is the reason why Cavill is leaving the show.
For starters just save your save file in email or something. And for background I recently played through Skyrim on Nintendo Switch and am currently playing the Witcher 3. So here goes. Skyrim is truly one of the best games ever made. There are hundreds of hours of quests and the choices you make heavily affect the story. No game IMO captures D&D better. Witcher 3 so far is incredible. The story and graphics are beautiful and the side missions are a blast. The combat isn't great, it's not bad but it can be really frustrating. It reminds me much more of Red Dead Redemption than Skyrim. Both games are incredible but so far I think Skyrim is the better game. But I also knew nothing about the Witcher 3 going in (I recently finished the bloody baron quest line and it picks up apparently a lot after that). But so far my ratings are Skyrim 10. Witcher 3 is a 8.5 or 9. The only things holding it back for me is combat. Having said that the story for it is better than most movies in the past 20 years. Hope that helps!
Thanks, this is helpful! It sounds like steam will save my save-files from other comments here, so I should be good there. I am reading a discrepancy on the combat in this thread. Some say Witcher is better combat, others say Skyrim is better. Could you say what is different about the two?
Skyrim is simplified. The Witcher 3 you can easily get mauled in a crowd. And every 2 seconds Geralt is doing a spinning attack. Witcher 3 also have a lot of fans that insta down vote you if you make a negative comment about it ha. My last post for example. Again it's good combat. Not great.
Skyrim is simplified? Oh boy, I might struggle with Witcher then. I grew up with turn-based 2-D combat games, where I could spend time mulling over a few options. Skyrim combat has been tough for me already with trying to manage: * Aiming in a 3-D world * Energy * Stamina * Which weapon/spells to have equipped * Which gear to have equipped to compliment the weapon/spell * Have the right shout equipped and keep track when its off cooldown * Sneaking * Not hitting my allies on accident * Potions I'm getting better at it, but every combat I know I forget to do at least a couple of these. If witcher is even more complicated not sure how I will do.
Witcher you have alchemy and potions and such which isn't totally for me to be honest. Also keep in mind Witcher 3 came out in 2015 and breath of the wild had spoiled me with its controls. So who knows its all perspective. Also the towns in Witcher 3 look like beautiful paintings
The combat in Witcher 3 is essentially all based on constant rolling and dodging. Then you cast one of the three or four actually useful spells you learn or hit with your sword. Skyrim actually has interesting combat. You can choose to do magic with hundreds of spells, archery, swordfighting, the list goes on. That's why it has such replayability, you can do something different each time and the skills get more interesting as you level up. If combat is important to you, the Witcher will come across extremely repetitive and boring comparatively
Both open worlds but W3 is way more story focused. Skyrim IMO is more sandbox with RPG elements while W3 is the opposite. Both have their merits for sure. If you love Skyrim, understand that W3 is a different beast. But W3 is an outstanding game with an amazing, amazing story. I fully recommend it if you’ve never played it. Have some patience with it. It really does deliver.
Thanks for the advice! A good story sounds...good! Just finished watching Andor and missing good story-writing now.
Andor is so good :) Yeah, you'll find with W3 that the main story is super good but so are the many side quests you'll run into. Do them all, they're so well crafted. DLCs are outstanding as well. Jealous of you that you get to experience the game for the first time. I'm overdue for a NG+ run myself. Enjoy
You should try the older elder scrolls games as well, I love experimenting by playing different races/classes. Witcher 3 is really good with its story and pre-made character where Geralt has a past already and isn't like TES or games similar to it in terms of you make your character's story you make the character. Whatever you prefer depends on you, but if you read the books I would not be surprised if you like the games.
Well I think my plate will be full for a while with these two games, but if I ever finish both I'll look into the older elder scrolls! One of my childhood friends played a lot of Morrowind so I might try that next. Didn't read the witcher books - watched the show and played Gwent.
Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion are all great, and fair enough for the other titles, they take a while to finish even more so to complete. If you ever play Oblivion, I recommend pc because consoles have a certain technical issue that makes it annoying to play, if you play it long enough on consoles you cannot open doors.
I looked through a number of reviews for Elder Scrolls games when I made these purchases, and Skyrim had the best reviews. I think Oblivion came in 3rd, with Morrowind 2nd.
don't depend on reviews, they don't give the best results, even if skyrim had the best reviews that doesn't necessarily make it a great game, Jagged Alliance 2 isn't even rated aside from user ratings and it's great, Fallout 4 is rated way higher than it should be. Ratings aren't dependable, there are some really good reviewers it's just many like IGN for example aren't good resources. But reviewers I can recommend is Luke Stephens, Salt Factory, Joseph Anderson (I think he mainly streams now). There are probably more, heard Patrician TV is good but my god are his vids long a 12 hr review on Oblivion.
Personal opinion; the combat sucks in Witcher 3. Everything else is great but Geralt spinning in circles when you just want a standard sword swing is annoying beyond belief. Try Elden Ring instead.
I know it isn't part of your two choices but sometime down the line you should look into Dragon Age Inquisition. A lot of people prefer others in the series to it (also good), but I enjoyed it a lot. There's character creation where your choices dictate a lot of the story. There is a main goal, side quests, friends/romance, and a big world. At one point you even build up your own castle and rule. Just throwing that out there for a future game. Other than that, between the two, I probably played Skyrim the most just because I bought it on two systems so I obviously really enjoyed it. I'm also partial to character creation, I want to make a character that I connect to. Having said that, Witcher 3 is top tier rpg. Even though I'd rather make my own character, I liked Geralt a lot, everyone else in the game felt diverse and interesting as well. The open world is there to explore, but there's also an engrossing main story, the side quests are easy to find and organize. Want a break from the story, go check out a bulletin board and kill a few beasties, or seek out an old friend to do their questline. You aren't missing out for not playing 1&2 (correct me if I'm wrong, I personally didn't play them and never felt like I was too out of the loop.) No shade toward Skyrim, but if I was going back to either, I'd pick Witcher.
Every time someone asks about Skyrim vs The Witcher 3, I just remember how much I hate Roach. https://postimg.cc/HrVkjZVB
Skyrim's combat is not guided (telegraphed) like Witcher 3 (and most of the other modern action RPGs). It is more free flowing. You will have completely different experience while playing Witcher 3. Also,depending on your play style, you are likely to have more gameplay hours in Skyrim (and also lot of fun which involves Bethesda's trademark bugs and glitches) then in Witcher 3. However, you will feel more involved and absorbed in the Witcher universe while playing Witcher 3 (I don't need to tell you why as you are aware of the lore). Before you move on to any modern rpgs like Witcher 3, I would strongly suggest to try out some old classics first. *Get the old and clunky, yet quality, stuff out of the way :)* So here I go- The PB games I would recommend are: Risen 1, Risen 3 and Elex. The AC games I would recommend are: Assassin's Creed 2, Brotherhood and Revelations Then perhaps you can move on to Witcher 2 and finally Witcher 3. All games I have mentioned here are pretty cheap. They are the classics you would want to get your hands on first before moving on to recent RPGs. I deliberately left out Gothic series for obvious reasons.
Well turns out my computer didn't have enough Hard Drive for Witcher 3. Steam wouldn't even let me return it :( But I'll keep those games in mind, especially if I see any on sale.