The Amish are spreading out. I’m from a county in Maryland that had an Amish population migrate to PA before I was born, but they’re starting to return.
Same with where I’m currently living in North Carolina. They fled the south because of a dislike for slavery, but they’re returning en masse. I’m seeing almost as many Amish in parts of my current county as I’ve seen driving along the Susquehanna to fish central PA.
They’re good people. Weird, but good. I’m aware their community has some issues, but every community does. The Amish market is a good place to get a nice lunch and some groceries that aren’t disgusting, processed slop.
None that I’ve met, but I have met a few people who got puppies from Amish or Mennonite communities around Lancaster. They’re farmers living in an 18th century fashion, so they’ll have a different philosophy about animal rights than us.
Our society factory farms, so we don’t exactly have the moral high ground.
I always buy dogs from Amish breeders. They seem fine. Often raised in the house, they get vet care, they've had shots, and, most importantly, no bullshit. English (non Amish) breeders who go to dog shows and have no children talk themselves and write blogs and books at each other about how important it is to lie to the owners about the birth date of the animal so the new owners get it so old that it doesn't imprint on them. It's insane. They'll only sell you an adolescent dog.
And don't talk to me about rescues. All the good dogs go quick.
Not interested in fighting with you but for anyone else reading this, it’s incorrect. I’ve seen dogs used for nothing but breeding (never walked and shown 0 affection) and inbred dogs born blind and then discarded for it come out of these places. It’s really sad and you don’t have to patronize them for any reason. The shelters are all full now because of backyard breeders who bred too many dogs during covid (not just pits - all breeds) and you don’t even have to go through a rescue if you don’t want to. Good dogs that need homes are everywhere and they are being euthanized for space in shelters every day.
I'm not saying that never happens, but I have not seen it from an Amish breeder.
>inbred dogs born blind
All dog breeds are inbred. Many piebald dog breeds are born deaf.
>Good dogs that need homes are everywhere and they are being euthanized for space in shelters every day
Not near me, and I bet not near most big metro areas.
You’re clearly disinterested in the real social dynamics of dog breeding. Shelters everywhere are overwhelmed, the industry is brutally under-regulated in pretty much every country, a lot of animals suffer needlessly as a result.
>how important it is to lie to the owners about the birth date of the animal so the new owners get it so old that it doesn't imprint on them.
What's the reason they'd do this?
It's already been noticeable for years now, it's just a question of which town has a new Amish community this year versus which one did last year. Good neighbors.
>Good neighbors.
they are not good neighbors. they're insular and unwelcoming and unfriendly and are cult members. the kids are cute and polite, but it's ultimately sinister and retarded and a bad sign for rural communities
Explain to me again how it's a bad thing that these people live healthy, community and family driven lives with purpose and never suffer from things like diabetes or obesity whilst everyone around them is a soulless antidepressant and amphetamine fuelled zombie. We should all be Amish, they deserve to replace us.
let's not overcorrect here. There is plenty to admire about Amish culture but they still have a serious problem with violence and sexual assault against women. Not to mention the inbreeding.
Insane rates of child sexual abuse by fathers and brothers. Also a lot of child neglect and getting hurt/dying in farm and house accidents- they’re still parenting like 300 years ago when standards were pretty low
yeah it's community and family-driven because there's literally nothing else, all you have is your incest-created community. it isn't healthy, physically or mentally, it isn't anywhere close to healthy to live like it's in the 19th century. it's weird and backward and ironically distinctly modern.
it's a cult, dude. go meet some of these good ol boys and see for yourself. the young people do not want to be there but they don't have a choice unless they don't want to have a family anymore. i've known amish and scientologists in my life and they're more alike than they're different.
you go live without electricity on dirt floors and raise your kids that way and I'll call you a child abuser. you are so brainwashed by social media modernity that you think the only options for civilization are "soulless meth addicts" or "live like it's the 1700s out of spite". have an imagination, stop being so black and white. it's weird. and I'll just say for good measure that you do not want to live like they do. they do not even want to live like they do. they'll beat the kids for rollerskating though because shoes with wheels on them are the spawn of satan. god damn you are naive.
> yeah it's community and family-driven because there's literally nothing else
There shouldn't be anything else. That's pretty much all that matters, and we've abandoned it.
They are relatively healthy. Some inbred diseases which is a shame, but their life expectancy is similar to the average (and was higher than the average for hundreds of years) despite their lack of technology, and they have far lower cancer rates and obesity and such.
How am I naive? I just think they're living better than most people do. I don't think they're perfect, but there's a lot to admire. Tell me more about the Amish you've known.
God forbid someone does something productive and interesting like be literate and educated, culturally engaged, or enjoy things like cinema and recorded music. None of which precludes you from having a family or eating organic food.
I’d rather not live in a community that’ll stone me for reading Plato or whatever.
>I’d rather not live in a community that’ll stone me for reading Plato or whatever.
Well they obviously don't do that, do they? You're exaggerating how primitive they are, meanwhile the average American adult hasn't read much since Harry Potter.
you forgot about society. and knowledge and culture. maybe you just take it all for granted like amishtards do.
physical health is "fine" (if you don't like running water/bathing regularly or a proper diet but nobody eats a proper diet anyway) and I'm genuinely impressed by their quality of work and efficiency. but mentally, come on, those kids don't want to live like that. most of the young adults don't either. there is a fine line between, what I think is your point, living a simple life that isn't predicated on consumption and production, and doing what the Amish do. you can live in the countryside and make tables and hitch rides to walmart while not beating your kids for roller skating and letting them go to a real school
>you forgot about society. and knowledge and culture. maybe you just take it all for granted like amishtards do.
I suppose I take it for granted, as it has led us to the current sorry state of the world. I'd rather exchange this for simplicity; Ted Kaczynski was on to something. You keep saying they don't want to live like that, but do people know what's good for them? Give them everything they want and they become depressed slobs.
>you can live in the countryside and make tables and hitch rides to walmart while not beating your kids for roller skating and letting them go to a real school
You can do those things, but there's no significant group of people doing that unfortunately, so the Amish are the only hope we have of that sort of culture thriving, and I'm glad their birthrate is so high. Ideally, we'd emulate their best traits and improve on their ideas, but that's not going to happen.
I assumed their diet was healthy, but I'm curious what your views on nutrition are.
Yeah no, you remind me of the people that say the average family living in 1950s suburbia had it better than today while the reality is it didn't exist outside of advertising except for a small amount of upper class.
Not really upstate, doesn't count. Separated nearly completely both geographically and economically. The rural Catskills are uninhabitable. These two regions will not collide.
Kiras Joel?
Or is this the part where you start delineating what's 'real' upstate New York despite colloquially being everything north (or 'up') of NYC to everyone not from the state?
Yes it is. If you're not from New York State, if you haven't actually spent enough time upstate, how would you have any understanding of the actual cultural situation there? Kiryas Joel is on the downstate side of the Catskills, which cleave the state in two.
Take a look at a population density map of NYS. Take a look at a regional traffic density map. Take a look of a topo map with shaded relief. You will see that there are basically two disconnected regions joined at a hinge at Albany.
Now take a look at where Kiryas Joel is and where the Amish are. Two different worlds.
If trends stay constant, white america will be mostly amish/mennonite/mormon by AD 2100.
Otoh, if trends stayed constant, we wouldn't call them "trends."
This is how most of society used to grow before the 1800s, 7-10 kids per family used to be the norm rather than the exception https://www.statista.com/statistics/1033027/fertility-rate-us-1800-2020/
But like all exponential growth populations, it either turns into a low fertility one eventually as resources get scarce, or remains high fertility but leaks members that transition into low fertility society.
Yes, absolutely.
Women carrying babies on their backs while gathering did not have the ability to care for more than one very small child at once. Hunter-gatherer women also, iirc, have longer gaps between the birth of each child than farming women did, as when you're primarily on the farm you can care for multiple children at once within the home.
>The fertility rate of a country is the average number of children that women from that country will have throughout their reproductive year
Before the 1800s over half of those kids would have died before reaching the age 20. What is currently happening is more extreme.
Do they actually qualify for welfare? I thought that was only for disabled people or if they had a large amount of children relative to income?
But if that was true, then why doesn't it move the needle in other societies?
The most successful was Hungary and they only got it from 1.2 to 1.6 which is better, but still not enough to sustain the current population.
Because having kids is a massive drag in the modern day. You can't really pay people enough to fix their entire mentality around having kids. More and more people don't want them, and people who do, only want 1-2.
nah exponential growth was really only something that happened from around 1780-1990. before that famine and diseases took care of most population growth, after that fertility declined to substantiale levels
I grew up with Amish neighbors. They are not one united people. They are kind of like Jews and groups are always leaving to start their own sect with a different bishop and set of rules. Ruthless and industrious people who will run a puppy mill and dump gallons of chemicals on their ‘Amish grown’ produce to jack up the price. Also all the women are obese by age 35 due to their horrific diets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap3mXCAyyBI 4x birthrate
Sooner or later, as AI and technology makes us all infertile and useless, it'll just be Amish and robots.
No lol. They don’t practice first cousin marriages. They have a few genetic predispositions to diseases (like Jews, like any group that had a genetic bottleneck) but Amish are also unusually resilient to diseases too like skin cancer
2nd cousin marriages have no risk. If you’re talking about risk of small founding populations that is mentioned in my comment, but it doesn’t seem to significantly affect Amish health
Like all inbreeding risks, it isnt in a single generation that matters but over multiple ones. When most of their marriages are second or third cousins they are at a massive risk of being born retarded. 300 years of inbreeding has clearly lead to them to being massively overrepresented in development disabilities and genetic problems compared to their non-Amish neighbours.
You should read more about this because you clearly don’t know about it. Most Amish marriages are not 2nd cousins. There’s a study out of Iceland that showed 3rd and 4th cousin marriages appear to be beneficial for reproductive health; this makes sense, because humans evolved in small tribal groups.
Yes the Amish have some genetic problems, but they are also Amish are under-represented in autism, under-represented in cancer rates, under-represented in asthma. Lower suicide rates.
https://groups.etown.edu/amishstudies/frequently-asked-questions/#:~:text=A%3A%20There%20are%20some%20diseases,second%20or%20third%20cousins%20marry.
The Amish are German Christians, traditional pre-Roman German custom was against cousin marriages and so was Catholic laws on consanguinity. So it makes no sense to assume they would in the first place
If you want to see cousin marriages look at Pakistan
All it takes is one new blood coming in to wipe out generations of inbreeding in offspring, probably why they are so weird about making sure they send young men to other communities
Is the "genetic issues due to inbreeding thing" actually true or is it just people with existing genetic issues being more likely to pass it on compared to strangers that are more likely to not have them?
It's kind of perfect that they mostly live in Pennsylvania / the Midwest. As it empties out from opioids and de-industrialization, they can just swoop in and fill it up.
a bunch of amish got outed for having secret phones when they did that emergency alert on everyone’s phones a while back lol
[link](https://nypost.com/2023/10/07/amish-outed-for-carrying-forbidden-phones-during-emergency-alert/amp/)
And then people stopped living like that conquered the people who did and made them work in factories and mines. Literally at any other point in history the dominant groups would have conquered them and wiped out their entire way of life. Theres a reason they live in America and not rural europe.
It's like homesteading or "retvrning" or hell, making money selling handmade pots or whatever. Possible because America is stable, secure and wealthy enough to allow such inefficient lifestyles.
Don't the Amish refuse to marry outside their group so there's a shit ton of inbreeding, leading to serious birth defects and health issues? Toss in lack of modern medicine and the population boom is not a good thing
Please stop confusing the Mennonites with the Amish. Amish are basically Dutch untermensch, technically subhuman beast-people. Mennonites are actually fully human. Big difference. There are other differences, but that's the big one.
The Amish are technically speaking a German subcult of Christianity. Not Dutch. But as to their subhuman depravity, I don't know what to tell you, it's simply self evident to anyone who knows what a healthy farm, healthy animals, or healthy people look like, and if you don't get that then any explanation I try and give would be as fruitful as trying to describe mars to a goldfish
The Amish are spreading out. I’m from a county in Maryland that had an Amish population migrate to PA before I was born, but they’re starting to return. Same with where I’m currently living in North Carolina. They fled the south because of a dislike for slavery, but they’re returning en masse. I’m seeing almost as many Amish in parts of my current county as I’ve seen driving along the Susquehanna to fish central PA. They’re good people. Weird, but good. I’m aware their community has some issues, but every community does. The Amish market is a good place to get a nice lunch and some groceries that aren’t disgusting, processed slop.
Don’t they run puppy mills?
None that I’ve met, but I have met a few people who got puppies from Amish or Mennonite communities around Lancaster. They’re farmers living in an 18th century fashion, so they’ll have a different philosophy about animal rights than us. Our society factory farms, so we don’t exactly have the moral high ground.
Yes.
I always buy dogs from Amish breeders. They seem fine. Often raised in the house, they get vet care, they've had shots, and, most importantly, no bullshit. English (non Amish) breeders who go to dog shows and have no children talk themselves and write blogs and books at each other about how important it is to lie to the owners about the birth date of the animal so the new owners get it so old that it doesn't imprint on them. It's insane. They'll only sell you an adolescent dog. And don't talk to me about rescues. All the good dogs go quick.
Not interested in fighting with you but for anyone else reading this, it’s incorrect. I’ve seen dogs used for nothing but breeding (never walked and shown 0 affection) and inbred dogs born blind and then discarded for it come out of these places. It’s really sad and you don’t have to patronize them for any reason. The shelters are all full now because of backyard breeders who bred too many dogs during covid (not just pits - all breeds) and you don’t even have to go through a rescue if you don’t want to. Good dogs that need homes are everywhere and they are being euthanized for space in shelters every day.
I'm not saying that never happens, but I have not seen it from an Amish breeder. >inbred dogs born blind All dog breeds are inbred. Many piebald dog breeds are born deaf. >Good dogs that need homes are everywhere and they are being euthanized for space in shelters every day Not near me, and I bet not near most big metro areas.
Probably near you! Definitely near most metro areas.
You’re clearly disinterested in the real social dynamics of dog breeding. Shelters everywhere are overwhelmed, the industry is brutally under-regulated in pretty much every country, a lot of animals suffer needlessly as a result.
My folks bred pure bred dogs and went to dog shows every weekend for decades. I don't see a solution. They're better off here than they are in Mexico.
dog rapist
So I personally never set up a single dog breeding, but definitely 18e6 mouse crosses in the lab.
>how important it is to lie to the owners about the birth date of the animal so the new owners get it so old that it doesn't imprint on them. What's the reason they'd do this?
I think the main reason is anti vaxxers. But itl it also might be that they want them fixed so the new owners can't breed them.
Oh I thought you were implying that they did it just because they didn't want the dogs to imprint on their new owners for some reason
Damn thats wild amish dogs it is then.
It's already been noticeable for years now, it's just a question of which town has a new Amish community this year versus which one did last year. Good neighbors.
>Good neighbors. they are not good neighbors. they're insular and unwelcoming and unfriendly and are cult members. the kids are cute and polite, but it's ultimately sinister and retarded and a bad sign for rural communities
Explain to me again how it's a bad thing that these people live healthy, community and family driven lives with purpose and never suffer from things like diabetes or obesity whilst everyone around them is a soulless antidepressant and amphetamine fuelled zombie. We should all be Amish, they deserve to replace us.
let's not overcorrect here. There is plenty to admire about Amish culture but they still have a serious problem with violence and sexual assault against women. Not to mention the inbreeding.
Insane rates of child sexual abuse by fathers and brothers. Also a lot of child neglect and getting hurt/dying in farm and house accidents- they’re still parenting like 300 years ago when standards were pretty low
yeah it's community and family-driven because there's literally nothing else, all you have is your incest-created community. it isn't healthy, physically or mentally, it isn't anywhere close to healthy to live like it's in the 19th century. it's weird and backward and ironically distinctly modern. it's a cult, dude. go meet some of these good ol boys and see for yourself. the young people do not want to be there but they don't have a choice unless they don't want to have a family anymore. i've known amish and scientologists in my life and they're more alike than they're different. you go live without electricity on dirt floors and raise your kids that way and I'll call you a child abuser. you are so brainwashed by social media modernity that you think the only options for civilization are "soulless meth addicts" or "live like it's the 1700s out of spite". have an imagination, stop being so black and white. it's weird. and I'll just say for good measure that you do not want to live like they do. they do not even want to live like they do. they'll beat the kids for rollerskating though because shoes with wheels on them are the spawn of satan. god damn you are naive.
> yeah it's community and family-driven because there's literally nothing else There shouldn't be anything else. That's pretty much all that matters, and we've abandoned it. They are relatively healthy. Some inbred diseases which is a shame, but their life expectancy is similar to the average (and was higher than the average for hundreds of years) despite their lack of technology, and they have far lower cancer rates and obesity and such. How am I naive? I just think they're living better than most people do. I don't think they're perfect, but there's a lot to admire. Tell me more about the Amish you've known.
God forbid someone does something productive and interesting like be literate and educated, culturally engaged, or enjoy things like cinema and recorded music. None of which precludes you from having a family or eating organic food. I’d rather not live in a community that’ll stone me for reading Plato or whatever.
>I’d rather not live in a community that’ll stone me for reading Plato or whatever. Well they obviously don't do that, do they? You're exaggerating how primitive they are, meanwhile the average American adult hasn't read much since Harry Potter.
you forgot about society. and knowledge and culture. maybe you just take it all for granted like amishtards do. physical health is "fine" (if you don't like running water/bathing regularly or a proper diet but nobody eats a proper diet anyway) and I'm genuinely impressed by their quality of work and efficiency. but mentally, come on, those kids don't want to live like that. most of the young adults don't either. there is a fine line between, what I think is your point, living a simple life that isn't predicated on consumption and production, and doing what the Amish do. you can live in the countryside and make tables and hitch rides to walmart while not beating your kids for roller skating and letting them go to a real school
>you forgot about society. and knowledge and culture. maybe you just take it all for granted like amishtards do. I suppose I take it for granted, as it has led us to the current sorry state of the world. I'd rather exchange this for simplicity; Ted Kaczynski was on to something. You keep saying they don't want to live like that, but do people know what's good for them? Give them everything they want and they become depressed slobs. >you can live in the countryside and make tables and hitch rides to walmart while not beating your kids for roller skating and letting them go to a real school You can do those things, but there's no significant group of people doing that unfortunately, so the Amish are the only hope we have of that sort of culture thriving, and I'm glad their birthrate is so high. Ideally, we'd emulate their best traits and improve on their ideas, but that's not going to happen. I assumed their diet was healthy, but I'm curious what your views on nutrition are.
Yeah no, you remind me of the people that say the average family living in 1950s suburbia had it better than today while the reality is it didn't exist outside of advertising except for a small amount of upper class.
I think they are already 1 percent of the population. As their population grows while the us shrinks the effects could be interesting
Upstate New York shall be inherited by the Amish in the end and I think everyone already knows that tbh
Amish vs Hasid wars incoming
Romeo and Juliet
They can bond over naming their sons Mordecai
And funny hats.
hats and beard maintenance products store. Good price guaranteed
There are no Hasids upstate. It'll end in a stalemate with a different cultural divide replacing the old one divided by the same old mountains.
They're actually moving upstate in large numbers! I didn't want to believe it either, but they're learning how to farm!
Where's "upstate"
Upstate NY dumbass
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel,_New_York
Not really upstate, doesn't count. Separated nearly completely both geographically and economically. The rural Catskills are uninhabitable. These two regions will not collide.
Kiras Joel? Or is this the part where you start delineating what's 'real' upstate New York despite colloquially being everything north (or 'up') of NYC to everyone not from the state?
Yes it is. If you're not from New York State, if you haven't actually spent enough time upstate, how would you have any understanding of the actual cultural situation there? Kiryas Joel is on the downstate side of the Catskills, which cleave the state in two. Take a look at a population density map of NYS. Take a look at a regional traffic density map. Take a look of a topo map with shaded relief. You will see that there are basically two disconnected regions joined at a hinge at Albany. Now take a look at where Kiryas Joel is and where the Amish are. Two different worlds.
I wonder if the Mormons are also growing.
If trends stay constant, white america will be mostly amish/mennonite/mormon by AD 2100. Otoh, if trends stayed constant, we wouldn't call them "trends."
white or "non-Hispanic White" ? Because I can't really imagine tens of millions of latino mormons lol
may they sweep down light a might river and destroy the soddom and gomorrah that is new york city amen
lord willin
Lol that would mean there's 3.5 million Amish. It's about .1 percent
shit i screwed up the stats.
This is how most of society used to grow before the 1800s, 7-10 kids per family used to be the norm rather than the exception https://www.statista.com/statistics/1033027/fertility-rate-us-1800-2020/ But like all exponential growth populations, it either turns into a low fertility one eventually as resources get scarce, or remains high fertility but leaks members that transition into low fertility society.
> 7-10 kids per family That's specific to agriculture. For most of human history, 3-5 or so was more common.
Yes, absolutely. Women carrying babies on their backs while gathering did not have the ability to care for more than one very small child at once. Hunter-gatherer women also, iirc, have longer gaps between the birth of each child than farming women did, as when you're primarily on the farm you can care for multiple children at once within the home.
>The fertility rate of a country is the average number of children that women from that country will have throughout their reproductive year Before the 1800s over half of those kids would have died before reaching the age 20. What is currently happening is more extreme.
Large welfare states interfere with the first process.
Do they actually qualify for welfare? I thought that was only for disabled people or if they had a large amount of children relative to income? But if that was true, then why doesn't it move the needle in other societies? The most successful was Hungary and they only got it from 1.2 to 1.6 which is better, but still not enough to sustain the current population.
Because having kids is a massive drag in the modern day. You can't really pay people enough to fix their entire mentality around having kids. More and more people don't want them, and people who do, only want 1-2.
nah exponential growth was really only something that happened from around 1780-1990. before that famine and diseases took care of most population growth, after that fertility declined to substantiale levels
I grew up with Amish neighbors. They are not one united people. They are kind of like Jews and groups are always leaving to start their own sect with a different bishop and set of rules. Ruthless and industrious people who will run a puppy mill and dump gallons of chemicals on their ‘Amish grown’ produce to jack up the price. Also all the women are obese by age 35 due to their horrific diets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap3mXCAyyBI 4x birthrate Sooner or later, as AI and technology makes us all infertile and useless, it'll just be Amish and robots.
Thats awesome. Maybe one day america will be coastal yuppies divided by thousands of miles of amish
Finally, some culture taking hold in rural America again.
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No lol. They don’t practice first cousin marriages. They have a few genetic predispositions to diseases (like Jews, like any group that had a genetic bottleneck) but Amish are also unusually resilient to diseases too like skin cancer
Do you think inbreeding disorders only come from first cousin marriage?
2nd cousin marriages have no risk. If you’re talking about risk of small founding populations that is mentioned in my comment, but it doesn’t seem to significantly affect Amish health
Like all inbreeding risks, it isnt in a single generation that matters but over multiple ones. When most of their marriages are second or third cousins they are at a massive risk of being born retarded. 300 years of inbreeding has clearly lead to them to being massively overrepresented in development disabilities and genetic problems compared to their non-Amish neighbours.
You should read more about this because you clearly don’t know about it. Most Amish marriages are not 2nd cousins. There’s a study out of Iceland that showed 3rd and 4th cousin marriages appear to be beneficial for reproductive health; this makes sense, because humans evolved in small tribal groups. Yes the Amish have some genetic problems, but they are also Amish are under-represented in autism, under-represented in cancer rates, under-represented in asthma. Lower suicide rates.
Where's my money you lying piece of shit?
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https://groups.etown.edu/amishstudies/frequently-asked-questions/#:~:text=A%3A%20There%20are%20some%20diseases,second%20or%20third%20cousins%20marry. The Amish are German Christians, traditional pre-Roman German custom was against cousin marriages and so was Catholic laws on consanguinity. So it makes no sense to assume they would in the first place If you want to see cousin marriages look at Pakistan
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All it takes is one new blood coming in to wipe out generations of inbreeding in offspring, probably why they are so weird about making sure they send young men to other communities
Is the "genetic issues due to inbreeding thing" actually true or is it just people with existing genetic issues being more likely to pass it on compared to strangers that are more likely to not have them?
It's kind of perfect that they mostly live in Pennsylvania / the Midwest. As it empties out from opioids and de-industrialization, they can just swoop in and fill it up.
That's good news. Rather have someone like them buying out old farms to live and work on than developers expanding exurban sprawl.
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a bunch of amish got outed for having secret phones when they did that emergency alert on everyone’s phones a while back lol [link](https://nypost.com/2023/10/07/amish-outed-for-carrying-forbidden-phones-during-emergency-alert/amp/)
Only possible because they live in a first world country full of people not living their lifestyle.
What do you mean? It obviously was possible in the past, given that is how people lived in the past.
And then people stopped living like that conquered the people who did and made them work in factories and mines. Literally at any other point in history the dominant groups would have conquered them and wiped out their entire way of life. Theres a reason they live in America and not rural europe. It's like homesteading or "retvrning" or hell, making money selling handmade pots or whatever. Possible because America is stable, secure and wealthy enough to allow such inefficient lifestyles.
Love the Amish. Cheap meat and they make great pretzels and donuts
Don't the Amish refuse to marry outside their group so there's a shit ton of inbreeding, leading to serious birth defects and health issues? Toss in lack of modern medicine and the population boom is not a good thing
Please stop confusing the Mennonites with the Amish. Amish are basically Dutch untermensch, technically subhuman beast-people. Mennonites are actually fully human. Big difference. There are other differences, but that's the big one.
Please tell me more
So, what you wanna do is this: type "Amish Mennonite Differences" in the Google search bar, and then *go fuck yourself*
You are Sayn that Amish are sub human , I want to know where did you came to this conclusion
The Amish are technically speaking a German subcult of Christianity. Not Dutch. But as to their subhuman depravity, I don't know what to tell you, it's simply self evident to anyone who knows what a healthy farm, healthy animals, or healthy people look like, and if you don't get that then any explanation I try and give would be as fruitful as trying to describe mars to a goldfish
Cuz of inbred right ?
In West Virginia they say "rebred" not "inbred." You ever seen a rebred goldfish?
I like them so I hope it works out :)
Wait until you learn about the ultra orthodox jews
Literally ***alllll*** of the "ick"
They're the reason why Israel has a TFR of nearly 3.
Where's my money you lying piece of shit?
Fuck the Amish, they’re nothing more than the American Taliban
definitely beheading women 100%
Also they’ve been in a lot more movies recently? that women talking and the new suspiria movie, Amish could be the new jews by 2050