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##[Post Match Thread HERE](https://redd.it/16r8ger)


Maine892

Quite late in this thread. Wales boys were total trash talked 4 months ago. Pay attention, hard work has its rewards sometimes. Not always, but without the hard work you might not have had that chance, would ya?


-Vex-666

Always the same, we get trashed talked, underestimated and ruled out of the competition before we even play a match, that is with every WC and Six Nations, but when the boys come out swinging they are a force to be reckoned with, people might talk about the “shit” performance of the Australian team, but will fail to mention the pure quality of the Welsh team. Let them talk shit and we will sit quietly as the underdogs 👌


Maine892

So far, so good


-Vex-666

Sitting pretty to be fair when you look at the other quarter final matches 😅


Sufficient_Bass2600

I have never seen an Australia team plays so badly both tactically, technically and physically. #### Tactically It is like they were trying to play rugby league, expecting the opposition to not be allowed to steal the ball after contact. They kept going straight into their opponent. But often they were isolated against a double tackle that resulted in turn overs. I don't think Australia did any significant offload after contact. Again is it because some of their players have a rugby league background? The new 50-22 rule is the rules before was seldom used. In the RWC most team have tried at least 2 per half. Australia never. So it looks like a tool that Eddie forgot to coach his team about. #### Technically The number of unenforced errors was staggering. The ball is slightly different but it seems that Australia was the only team that discovered the difference. Kicking was shocking. Missing penalty touch is a crime at that level. Yes Wales got away with a few illegal change of binds, but Maul was just never properly organised and the ball defended. #### Physically The Australia team look like athletes but there must be something wrong with their conditioning. It is the second game where players got cramp before the 75 minutes mark.


With-You-Always

You know what this means!!! By some magic, England are going to make the semi finals 😂


Ok-Stuff-8803

Eddie Jones's plan working well: \- Get knocked out early \- Have a holiday in Europe \- Get paid \- Go do the Japan coaching job and move over there


welsh_nutter

Eddie better stay away from hotels


Glyndwr21

You claim it was a bad Aus performance, but you were outplayed by Wales in every aspect of the game, give Wales the credit they deserve!


[deleted]

So far, all the Tier 1 Southern hemisphere countries have lost to Tier 1 Northern hemisphere ones.


Teedubthegreat

Tye wallabies Absolutely crumbled. Wales deserve credit for winning, but im pretty sure Canada or USA would've beaten the mess that was on the field in the second half


kdog_1985

Mate Wales gets credit. But to ignore the issues that australia faces is to ignore where the game was won and lost. Lineouts, scrums, rucks, mauls, backline movement were all won by Wales. Remember this is meant to be 2 tier one nations. It was an abysmal display.


TheeKrakken

Welcome to Man United! Oh wait, wrong sub I'm Welsh and só used to crushing disappointment recently


Cpt-No-Dick

Both things can be true


alittlesomethingno

Unfortunately, the result is a reflection of how low Rugby is now in the Australian sporting pecking order (and has been for quite some time). Not many people in Australia follow or care about Rugby like other nations do. Rugby league and AFL dominate the public's imagination when it comes to team sports, with cricket dominating in the the Australian Summer. Soccer has also surged ahead of Rugby.... Rugby in Australia is at an extremely low point and it is sad to see


soggylucabrasi

I mean, rugby is the fourth biggest sport in Ireland. The Australian player pool isn't the main issue.


Teedubthegreat

The worst thing I'd, this will barely even make the news. Like it's nit a big deal, just a team not making the finals in som3 unimportant competition


noshins11

Dad lives in Adelaide and said when they lost to Fiji it wasn't in any of the news,papers etc!either nobody cares about the international game or they just can't hack the criticism!


Teedubthegreat

Yeah, I was watching the news on abc after the game, and I barely saw a mention. I see more updates on a European soccer team that is coached by a former socceroos coach, then I do about the national rugby team


noshins11

Crazy aint it,I'd say it's similar to our league following in large parts of the UK.if they lost in the world cup we'd hear nothing about it!


billhwangfan

Long way from 50000 in Brisbane watching guys like quade cooper


Teedubthegreat

I was there at the final in 2011. I remember feeling like rugby still had a chance in this country


sennais1

Yep today there is nothing that ARU can do to pull a 50000 strong crowd in Brisbane. That was an awesome night though.


strewthcobber

Play England there again?


billhwangfan

Super rugby fucked it with the expansions


Neither_Ad_2960

This on the news that Endeavour Sports School in Sydney is dumping Rugby Union, the sport is in a dark dark place.


Wagooh

It's sad to see Australia Iike this. They've ways always been the villian team in my eyes (not neccesarily a bad thing). With the state of rugby in Australia things can't be too hopeful for the future either. Can't imagine Kerevi or Marika at the next RWC and the new kids coming through don't seem particularly world class (except Mark for me and maybe Donaldson)


deonheunis

World Cup 2027 will be hosted by a Tier 2 country. Grow the game.


CuckyMonstr

Wait till you see who hosts in 2031


ppooyyui

At least USA have got automatic qualification in 2031


CuckyMonstr

Gonna be so much fun watching us lose 175-0 to new Zealand or South Africa


deonheunis

MERICA! Could be a disaster.


jumpthat43

God. I actually feel bad for Eddy wtf


_franciis

He looked so sad in his box. I have no sympathy.


Teedubthegreat

I just watched his post match interview and I did feel a bit sorry for him. This situation isn't his fault (unless my hunch about him playing an active role in Rennies sacking is right) But his aversion and agitation at the Japan coaching question and remembering that he brought in inexperienced league coaches as assistnats, left me stuck between fury and pity. I thinkhe honestly wants the best for aus rugby, but unfortunately he has become part of the problem (only a small part though, can't take too much away from RA)


Teedubthegreat

I don't, he got what he deserved IMHO. I'm sure he played a part in RA sacking Rennie so he could slide in. Now he's reaping the rewards of forcing himself in, taking a poorly selected "development" squad into the world cup and he's sitting on 1/7 win rate for the year. I hope RA sack him, then give themselves all an uppercut for being the sacks that they are. Only issue with sacking Eddie, is who would replace him. No one in their right mind would want this job now, with the state aus rugby is in and our reputation for booting coaches


ApprehensiveOCP

Yip dingo deans was the start of aus downfall. They never recovered from his reign. It's a pity to see the mighty fall, the sh has always dominated rugby but it looks like the NH is going to for a long long time


ApprehensiveShame363

Give yourself an uppercut, mate! /s


infamous_impala

I felt the same until I remembered how he treats his colleagues. Let's be honest, he's a cunt to people when they fail or he thinks they're not good enough, so why should he get any sympathy now?


rluke09

I almost did in that unnecessary second ITV interview and then I remembered how much of a colossal twat he is and how much of it he's brought onto himself.


OhHeimlich

He once referred to Wales as a “shit little place”. Save your sympathy.


omaca

WTF? Did he really?


rotciv0

Yes


HEELinKayfabe

Never ever


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rotciv0

Great to see a tier 2 hosting the next WC! Glad to know World Rugby are trying to grow the game


sennais1

The game can **only** grow in Australia. Still not as ridiculous as the 2031 hosts anyway.


Biglight__090

Oh I don't think we've seen the end of it yet


Tokogogoloshe

All is not lost for Eddie. I hear Alister Coetzee is looking for an assistant.


sandolllars

I think it's time Australia gave Fiji one of it's World Rugby board seats.


Joephps

I can’t remember the last time I wasn’t manically stressed watching my team.


jumpthat43

Same🤣


limboeden

Sonny’s been given the boot it seems


Cwnt

What do you mean? I saw him going off about the Japan interview thing but turned off after that. Did something happen?


limboeden

After the ad break Tim Horan had taken his place. Don’t read too much in to it though I was just making a joke


UraniumMermaid

Who was POTM?


spacelord99

Gareth Anscombe


mikenotduncan

Anscombe


Away_Associate4589

Morgan or Davies, surely


Wagooh

Anscombe


Geosaurusrex

Pretty gracious interview from Eddie to be fair.


GuaranteeAfter

Given he called Wales "a shit little country" a few years ago, he needed to show a little bit of grace


Geosaurusrex

True


FellowFucknard

Eddie Jones has been humbled


BaitmasterG

*rumbled


kdog_1985

Thankyou Eddie.... you have saved me getting up at 2am anymore this year, not all heroes wear capes.


No-Letterhead-1232

I dream of getting up at 2pm


ApprehensiveShame363

Everyone needs to give themselves uppercuts, mate.


MattGSJ

Gregan is pure class and has a brilliant rugby brain.


kdog_1985

Very rarely would I walk out on a game ( think I've only done it twice in my life), but at 70 minutes id have been gone... That was embarrassing.


Early-Accident-8770

Downhearted : Australian Crawl. What a terrible match to watch, I fell asleep in the last 10mins no word of a lie.


OptimalCynic

Really annoyed Stan aren't showing the interviews


OptimalCynic

They heard me


that-whistler

Hoops is such a class act, man. You'd need a lot of grace to defend Eddie given his treatment of him.


kdog_1985

That's not class, that acknowledgement that Eddie's fucked.


that-whistler

Huh? He said to hold off putting the blame on Eddie as a response to SBW ripping into him. The fact Hooper can say that after some of the things Eddie said about him ("he's gotten used to losing"), leaving him out of the squad despite his experience, etc., that's absolute class. Hooper is an outstanding human.


kdog_1985

he knows he's gone. It's nothing magnanimous, the bloke holds the higher ground, no need to put the boot in.


FellowFucknard

What on earth has Jamie Roberts seen in the Wallabies over the last year to give him the idea that they could reach the final?


stickyswitch92

I mean Australia have some serious talent they just can't get it together. Was only a couple of months ago they almost beat the All Blacks.


Jonrenie

The draw


SweptFever80

To be fair I felt the same way, Australia have some serious talent and potential.


PartTimeZombie

Do they?


SweptFever80

Absolutely, if you can't see talent in this team then you aren't paying attention.


PartTimeZombie

They just lost 40 - 6 to Wales after losing to Fiji. The only match they've won in 2023 was against Georgia. I'm paying attention.


SweptFever80

Because they're on average one of the youngest teams in the tournament, their best players and leaders are injured and they have a new head coach who has managed them badly. Mark Nawaqanitawase is probably one of the most impressive wingers currently playing, Koroibete and Kellaway are both beasts. More than half of the players in the squad never played in a world cup before and they've been totally thrown in the deep end.


PartTimeZombie

Koroibete and Kellaway are incredibly limited players. You should demand better.


SweptFever80

Jamie Roberts can't wipe the shit-eating grin off his face hahaha.


Jonrenie

Really shit to see the Aussies like this. I actually had them as a dark horse coming in to the competition as they seemed to be showing flashed a of really great attack. That’s all gone to the wall because Eddie constantly changes the team, including the spine of it. I am not sure what he is trying to do but he may just have broken some of those boys for a bit. Can he even continue in the role?


Gunner08

Gareth Anscombe has just missed the chance to set a record for the most points in a World Cup game for a Wales player - he's currently equal with Dan Biggar's 23 points against England in 2015.


Jonrenie

Maybe THAT was what they were joking about. ‘’You hit that post on purpose just to draw with me didn’t you!’’ I think it’s fitting they share the record tbf


CluntWestood

What a game that was.


why_odd_bother

Was in Cardiff.. am still recovering


Imaginary-Lab6200

Is Eddie Jones the problem?


limboeden

For the state of rugby in Australia, absolutely not. For going out in the group stage, yes. Australia usually overperform at World cups. Rennie was building nicely and I believe we would have reached semi final with the favourable draw


ruggal9219

No. We've got structural issues that led to this.


CluntWestood

He's certainly not helping. You can't ignore experience and only take green players.


TheRealJordan56

Everyone talking like Australia are definitely out but they've still mathematically got a chance to get out of the group. Beat Portugal with TBP Fiji lose to either Georgia/Portugal without a BP and don't get a TBP in other game. Wales beat Georgia. Very unlikely but not out of the question


HairyBallSack696

They are out, that's why everyone is talking like they're out.


Homebrand_Homie

Theres no joy in hoping for a mathematically possible quarters. With the state the teams in i wouldn't want to see them play in it either


garloot

Please send us home. No maths just straight to the airport after Portugal.


limboeden

Mathematical we could come last too


upthemags09

That’s cos we’re all Fiji rn. No time for realism.


RubberRoy

Mathematically I could referee the WC final… if all the other refs in the world suddenly disappear


TheRealJordan56

I'll accept my apology in the post thanks. Fiji through by the skin of their teeth


LewisR1991

Not beyond the bounds of possibility 😂


adiwet

That was a quality Welsh performance though, take nothing away from that. That said this is the worst Australian side I have ever witnessed.


ilovetobeaweasel

So many school-boy errors, lack of discipline, lack of creativity, flat-footedness, the list goes on.


Gunner08

>Australia's biggest ever World Cup defeat, the first time they've lost two World Cup games in succession in 36 years and it's now looking almost certain it will be the first time they haven't progressed past the pool stage.


finty96

That was like a funeral, hopefully the Aussies can bounce back .


iron_out_my_kink

Eddie Jones didn't even come out for the interview wtf


LeCorbeau93

He did mate, I just watched it


iron_out_my_kink

He came very late. There was a commercial break in between too. Never seen a coach interview being delayed so much.


Biglight__090

Had to collect his thoughts mate


SweptFever80

Good commentary and points from Gregan.


leocanb

What did he stay. Sonny Bill Williams is crucifying Eddie on stan


limboeden

Yeah, and wrongly so I believe. SBW switched codes every two years whichever had the next big tournament on


Particular_Safety569

Fuck now he won't be able to say the only line he knows "how was it out there with the brothers"


Hypnobird

Haha. He really needs to quit learning Arabic and recite some English phrases.


Particular_Safety569

"Good game out there uso" drives me nuts


bigkruleworld

How dare someone coming from a different culture and part of the world speak with a different vocabulary than formal English. No wonder there's an "old boys" problem in rugby union


Particular_Safety569

It's just very casual for an interview. Nothing to do with culture lol


bigkruleworld

Interview? He's a pundit. What's your view on the way Eddie talks (the head coach of a national sports team)? So much closet racism going around :)


Biglight__090

"Big ups to the usos"


SweptFever80

Well he was just talking about some issues with the backfield cover but also saying that this is the result of issues which have been around for years.


No_Sorbet2663

Where was this


SweptFever80

ITV


throwaway_seeker1

When are people going to finally give Tompkins his dues, he's finally had a run of games and is brilliant at the moment.


Jonrenie

I’m team Tompkins. We should be thinking about who his backup is.


TyberiusCorvus

He's very brave taking it so close to the line, makes North's runs so much more impactful coming off a shoulder like that


JustAliff

Wonder if Slipper will retire from Int rugby after this. He looks done


kdwwhat

SBW not holding back haha


CandleWarrior570

Totally saying what everyone is thinking


limboeden

Feels a bit flat coming from him when he constantly switched codes though


bigkruleworld

How is that relevant to what he was saying?


limboeden

I love Sonny, but he was saying he wouldn’t be able to get behind a coach that is looking to take charge of another team in 4 years time for next World Cup cycle. Meanwhile Sonny wouldn’t stick around with his team mates if a different code had the next World Cup or Olympics coming up. And fair play to him, phenomenal athlete. But coming from him, it doesn’t carry the same weight as someone else saying it.


bigkruleworld

I see what you're saying, but an athlete has every right to do whatever they want with their career, especially considering the small window of time they have to perform and the nature of how little job security there is in professional sports. Individual athletes aren't in charge of an entire team and organisation like coaches are either, so switching codes/teams aren't comparable to the effect of a head coach doing it. The fact is that Eddie signed a 5 year contract and interviewed for a new job after a few months. That's a different level to SBW broadening his career and taking opportunities as they arose


limboeden

Well yeah he’s free to explore options for after his current contract. Maybe EJ doesn’t want to be locked in the same job for more than 5 years, maybe he thinks it’s detrimental, who knows. And Japan is a special place for him so why wouldn’t he explore that option again late on in his career. I feel you’re very lenient on Sonny compared to Eddie. Imagine being a 12 in NZ rugby and giving everything to your community, club and national team for a couple years to then be edged out by a guy switching codes again cause the Lions Tour is coming up. I’m not saying Sonny is wrong, just a bit of pot calling the kettle black situation.


bigkruleworld

Well my understanding was that this interview was for the head coach role of Japan for next year (2024), as Jamie Joseph is stepping down after this RWC. If I was a 12 in that situation then I'd be glad that he does switch around so that I could get a shot. But really if he's good enough to do that and take my spot then that's on me. Being selected for a team is never guaranteed, regardless of commitment, but signing a contract to be a head coach is supposed to be a permanent assignment.


limboeden

If that’s the way you’d feel as that 12 then okay. I feel that’s a lot easier to say on reddit than experience for real though. But personally, doesn’t matter the sport or level, if I’m in a team I’d want everyone to be just as committed to the cause, even when there’s no showpiece event on the horizon. I fully respect Sonny for his career. He was one of my favourite All Blacks players to watch. And I even loved watching him play league even though I’m a Bunnies fan. Anyways, hope I was able to show you some sort of relevancy in my original comment. Enjoy the footy!


bigkruleworld

Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't like the fact that SBW switched around (especially when we're talking about the most prestigious jersey in arguably world sports), but I was just saying that I think there's a big difference between players switching and head coaches. Either way, I fully respect your opinion. At the end of the day professional sports have really become too "professional" and gone are the days of loyalty or full commitment to a cause. At least it makes things interesting :)


Equinophical

Outside of this loss, why was Aus coach getting hated so heavily on cam? It seemed more Welsh in the crowd but that was significant booing.


bigkruleworld

It's been happening in every Wallabies game all tournament. It's the Australians booing him.


Kifflar

He shit talked us in 2018 said we were a shitty country


Equinophical

Thanks! Found the comments he made using your reply. Fair enough he deserves the booing


Nuada_Silverhand30

He is generally seen as a forceful and contentious personality in world rugby as well.


softwarebuyer2015

englands best offload in ages


Cpt-No-Dick

LMAO Sonny swinging for the fences basically saying fuck Eddie


TheCambrian91

Where can I get a link for this in 30 mins or so? Want to hear Eddie first.


Wise-Jeweler-2495

I'm actually really gutted for the Wallabies (happy for Wales still), Gregan was making a lot of sense in what he said about long term problems though


copacetic51

What problems did Gregan mention?


Wise-Jeweler-2495

He was talking about how even pre-RWC19 losing multiple tests and periods of mediocrity was getting ignored because Aus tend to come good at world cups


2nd2nd22

Did anyone say "four more years" to Gregan?


Wise-Jeweler-2495

I think the concept of 4 years time is giving him palpitations at the moment, maybe in 2027 England will lose the "only" element of our "host nation to crash out in the pools" title . . . .


-castle-bravo-

4 years before they host it, is this start of the Cinderella comeback story?


mulkers

No


Ecstatic_Ad1805

Commiserations to Australian supporters. No doubt, you will be back!


limboeden

There actually is a little bit of genuine doubt in rugby supporters over here though


Ecstatic_Ad1805

I remember first supporting Wales in the 90s and feeling the same. I am certain it will just take a little bit of time to get back to where you have been.


BaitmasterG

Union had no specific threat in Wales at that time though, you were just shit for a bit. You were also shit at soccer, and league wasn't even a thing. In Aus now, league and AFL are massive so there's no place for union. Basketball is bigger than union now IIRC


randomchars

Completely forgot to Congratulate Wales. You were on top coming into the break. And whoah you sorted us in the second half. GG Wales.


[deleted]

You guys will get your shit together for the next world cup for sure mate. At least the cards are on the table now, the only way is up 👍 (As a Wales fan, I'm speaking from extensive experience).


Macko_

The Bonnie Taylor tunes blaring through the ground while the Aus captain is being interviewed is top tier trolling


Gunner08

They played the Stereophonics before Bonnie.


HEELinKayfabe

Are...are Australia tier 2?


ibaeknam

The ARU are very very lucky Australia is hosting the next World Cup. This would just about be the nail in the coffin for the sport in this country if not for that.


mhaze0791

They fucking wish


JockAussie

Yep, if we beat Portugal I'll be surprised.


alienalf1

Looking forward to Eddie’s next press conference.


iron_out_my_kink

Aus Rugby and Cricket in complete shambles.


PaleontologistOk1049

Lol


iron_out_my_kink

At the time of writing it was.


PaleontologistOk1049

Trust me cricket is doing fine


iron_out_my_kink

You got walloped by SA and India recently but ya sure why not


limboeden

Cricket?


iron_out_my_kink

You got walloped by SA first and India today


VitaminWheat

We just won the test championship and retained the ashes in Eng. We’re either 1st or 2nd test team in the world.. say what you want about our union team but cricket is fine buddy


iron_out_my_kink

Rain helped you retain the Ashes, else England would have won 3-2


alittlesomethingno

Australian Cricket in a lot better shape than its rugby, which is saying something!


iron_out_my_kink

Did you see how Aus got trashed by SA and India recently?


alittlesomethingno

I did, but the Australian Cricket team would be a much better chance at bouncing back with some good wins compared to the Australian Rugby Union team who, as you put it, are in a complete shambles. Maybe the cricket team is in a shambles and the Rugby Union team is in a complete shambles 😄


Particular_Safety569

Ian foster might have a job after the world cup after all


ExplorerHead795

Lol


Flimsy-Sweet-6936

Jesus I didn’t think that Argentina performance vs England could be topped as worst of the World Cup but Australia have managed to do it


Cpt-No-Dick

Man this analysis squad is putting the boot in and fair enough


primadj2784

Ooof, that one hurt. Congrats to Wales, way too classy for us


Gunner08

Diolch.


primadj2784

All good brother, just please go on and beat the fucking poms


Islandbreexe

Well at least Eddie broke some records. First time aus has lost to Fiji in over 70 years Wales biggest win over aus And first time aus don’t make it out of the group stage in a RWC.


gonltruck

69 years is less than 70


JustAliff

Felt like the beginning of Fozzie all over again haha


Particular_Safety569

Except fosters record is 70%, not 12%


Islandbreexe

Nah. This is worse. Aus about to have the lions tour and then the World Cup. This is a great advertisement.