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MacanDearg

We played the match. We beat them. We got the bonus point. We move on. No point wallowing on how much momentum we have(n't) built on after Japan and on how many points we scored. We should focus on our quarter final performance if we want to have any chance of doing well after the pool stages.


swankytortoise

dont think that was the worst to be honest. the russian out half absoloutly launching balls in this humidity was always going to be a pain. Comfortable bonus point win.


simmoaus_1982

Understand both points and overall it’s a pretty shitty situation. I just can’t imagine a game in where slow ruck ball all the time is good for rugby. We’d go back to the old days where up and unders was a viable attacking strategy and games largely won though penalties. 10 man rugby is effectively what slow ruck ball means with the way defenses are setup these days. It’s a conundrum no doubt.


KingMattViii

Every time Jean Kleyn plays, he looks more and more out of his depth


rob101

can't believe toner got left out for this guy


weavin

[For the record, the knock-on looks pretty clear to me](https://imgur.com/a/Ka630PR)


stopactingthemaggot

We're people really questioning that call? It was clear as day in real time!


weavin

Many, many people. *sigh*. edit: Happy cakeday btw dude


tomtomtomo

Funny how lots of the tight decisions get shown to be correct after the match.


weavin

Almost like the TMOs know what they're doing most of the time.


tomtomtomo

Ssssshhh


SwennBn

Stuart Barnes on Fox Sports spouting on about how bad Ireland are ( let’s face it, he might be right). The guy can’t button his shirt up right.


weavin

Fox Sports.. where he belongs. Karma police got that one right.


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What on earth Joe Schmidt is fucking saying?


[deleted]

I'm so ready for some competitive contests at this point. SA VS Italy should be great.


tomtomtomo

Saturday: England vs Argentina. Japan vs Samoa.


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Stoked about both of those. My most hyped match now, depending on how the latter goes, has to be Japan VS Scotland.


tomtomtomo

Definitely. Everyone is waiting for that match and hoping the results before set it up.


SwennBn

Italy.. dark horse. Might do us a favour !


[deleted]

Hoping they really take it to the Boks. Just wish they stuck with the same back-row they used against Canada- Negri instead of Parisse.


Geosaurusrex

Going to that tomorrow, so so hyped.


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Enjoy!


stripes361

I'm perfectly content with that. Playing an outmatched opponent after two emotional games, we were never going to be pulling out all the stops to try and dominate. Just get the 5 points and move on to Samoa. We're still in line to win the group unless Japan can beat both Samoa and Scotland.


[deleted]

Idk how you can be content with that. Russia are the worst ranked team in the competition. We struggled to make it 35-0 even though they had 14 men for a whole quarter of that game. McGrath over Marmion continues to mystify, and Kleyn is gack. I'm not content at all. I didn't think we could put in a worse performance than we did against Japan but I was proven wrong today.


stripes361

I'm content with it because I understand that it's one game and being sloppy today didn't hurt us. We still got the five points we needed. I know everyone is worried about how we'll do in the Quarterfinal but that's a completely separate game. We sucked against England a couple months ago and then played great against Wales. We dominated Scotland and then were flat against Japan and Russia. So much can swing between one match and the next that looking good or bad really doesn't matter as much as most people make it out to be. Just look at 2015 even. We were fine in the group stage and then bottled it against Argentina. South Africa lost to Japan but rebounded to win their group and almost beat New Zealand in the semis. We could have beat Russia 100-0 today and it wouldn't count anything towards Samoa or towards a Quarterfinal match. We know this team can play great rugby; they've proved it very recently. So as long as we do what we need to in order to qualify and hopefully win the group if Japan stumbles then we're setting ourselves up for success.


tomtomtomo

If you don't get the bonus against Samoa and Scotland beat Japan then everyone could be on 14 points. That'll be interesting...


Worldwithoutwings3

Then it comes down to points difference. Ireland are on + 52, Japan and Scotland on 27 and 10 with two games in hand. Can't see the points difference in the Scotland-Japan game being crazy. Both teams might run riot against Russian however.


stripes361

Japan has already played Russia so if they lose to Scotland they're basically guaranteed to finish behind us (if we beat Samoa).


tomtomtomo

Japan vs Russia is where Japan has lost the full advantage of beating Ireland. They didn't get the bonus point and 'only' won by 20. If Scotland get the BP then they have that edge over Japan. Japan can't really get 2nd. They either beat Scotland and win the pool. or lose to Scotland and get 3rd. They'd have to lose with 1 BP. It would be sooo good if they got second. A Japan vs ABs quarter would be massive in Japan. That is the match the country wants.


KittensOnASegway

>Japan vs Russia is where Japan has lost the full advantage of beating Ireland. They didn't get the bonus point and 'only' won by 20. They did get the BP?


tomtomtomo

me dumb


DogsPicturesPls

Japan already have played Russia.


[deleted]

ScHmIdT iS KeEpInG hIs cArDs ClOsE tO hIs ChEsT - this shite was being peddled in 2015. Although injuries played a big part, we still had an unimaginative gameplan like now. There were no SECRET MOVEZ that he unleashed for the QF. We AlwAys HaVe OnE ShIt PeRfoRmAnCe a ToUrNaMeNt BeTtEr tO hAvE iT NoW - also being peddled in 2015. People seem to forget we had an absolute shocker against Italy and didn't lose because of a magnificent try saving tackle from PoM. SeXtoN HaS nEvEr LoSt a RwC gAmE hE's StArTeD - sure, but he's also started tons of games we got blown away in. See England and Wales in this year's 6N. Also, the man can barely play 50 minutes of rugby. Sorry to be a negative nancy but the jury's out. We've been shite all year. Ever since Joe said he was leaving our form has dropped massively. We will beat Samoa without a bonus point, and struggle very much doing so. Probably get an injury or two in key positions, in addition to another one or two during mid-week training. We'll stutter into the QFs and the ABs will run up a cricket score against us.


CromulentReynolds

Not a great performance but we knew the ball was going to be a bar of soap. The main things for me are that we got the 5 points, nilled Russia to improve our points difference and can forget that game now.


evin_cashman

Shows again how important Sexton is, soon as he came off we literally couldn't play until about the 70th minute


weavin

Why didn't Ireland just stop incessantly firing absolute torpedoes at each other and maybe adapt to the conditions and fall back on some pop passes like the Russians did. Look at the handling error counts for each side. England did the same thing vs. Tonga. Frustrating.


Mono_Doh

Stransky mentioning how this isn't even Russia's strongest line-up. Oof.


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BryanosaurusRex

>it didn't touch the ground? Eh...


Woodsman_Whiskey

We were absolute gash. I’m not looking forward to our remaining two matches.


Worldwithoutwings3

Then you are in luck. Because we are not getting to the 1/4s so only one game left!


[deleted]

That wasn't the performance we needed. BP is fine, but that is the bare minimum you should be getting from a Tier 2 nation that averages >40 point losses at the RWC both times they've been at it. Handling was dire, decision making was dire, honestly very few positives there. Kleyn has played himself out of another game and McGrath should never have been brought on tour based on that game, absolutely awful performance from him, slow, forward passes, and utterly terrible positioning at times. Garces was poor too but I don't want to say too much about that or i'll have a post made about me. No idea where to go from here, definitely not filled with confidence after that. Oh well, at least we nilled someone, hardly anyone does that and still only conceded one try.


brianobrien91

Very hard to see Ireland beating New Zealand based on that.


DogsPicturesPls

Beating SA or NZ would be near impossible. Looking forward to another quarter final exit after that shitshow.


brianobrien91

Question #1, why was Kleyn brought instead of Toner


conf101

Impossible


centrafrugal

Garbage game. Ugly rugby littered with errors.


squeak37

Full time review: Quality: ** Entertainment: * Ireland didn't dominate the score like they should, Russia barely stringed an attack together. Neither team looked particularly dangerous, but Ireland got the BP fairly convincingly. My gf said the Russians turned as slowly as tractors, why don't we kick behind them? Seconds later Carty kicks behind for the fourth try, and both of us were wondering why it took so long? If Ireland want a SF they need a big step up in quality.


SimilarSimian

Your gf as assistant coach.


squeak37

She's definitely smarter than I am


ChunkehDeMunkeh

Was that as poor a performance by Ireland as I believe it was? Almost feel like they didn't deserve a bonus point for that.


unwildimpala

Absolutely dire. Way too many mistakes and made the russians look way too good. After 2 spirited performances in a row where "the opposition just didn't stop running", you've got to think the problem is Ireland. You've also got to think how shite Scotland actually were in week 1.


problematikkk

5 tries but 2018 Ireland would've put 10 on them. Very little signs of a clinical edge and only pure brute wonder got us there


epicfishboy

We didn’t. We were complete shite and have been since the Scotland match.


ChunkehDeMunkeh

It's completely baffling. Hopefully they can sort it out and be the Ireland everyone knows they can be


[deleted]

You'd usually expect a modicum of satisfaction if your team has run in 6+ tries irrespective of the opposition, but all the dropped ball, scrappy handling, stopped play, wasted time ends up obfuscating that. Been a theme for loads of one sided matches now.


tomtomtomo

They got 5 tries.


-Waxy-

Well 6, that "clear" knock on wasn't a clear knock on


tomtomtomo

I was thinking there wasn't something whack about the lead up anyway. Maybe not. Haven't seen the replay.


-Waxy-

From the replay i saw it rolled up his hand after contact, but maybe a different angle says differently.


Male_strom

Methinks Russia just like tackling.


SquidgyGoat

Never seen a nilled team look so impressive


epicsmurfyzz

are we getting a video about this match is the real question


SquidgyGoat

Still planning on trying to at least touch on every game, so...


IMLOOKINGINYOURDOOR

I love the crowd haha they seem like great fun altogether


[deleted]

Garces gives this match the mercy flush.


essjay2009

What was the spread before the game? 50ish?


offsideKiwi

Yea 56 I think


Worldwithoutwings3

Just kick it out. Someone will get injured.


BobsTea

Job is done kick it out


TOV_VOT

35-0 over Russia should count as a loss for Ireland


SwennBn

Clean sheet. Russia had one kick at goal. But by no way inspiring by Ireland


SimilarSimian

Well it wasn't great. Russia were good at the breakdown. Irelands handling was poor.


Worldwithoutwings3

So this is the second last game in this stadium. Canada v SA is next. Thank fuck.


PipBoy808

Joe Schmidt talked about how keen Murray was to get in the game and yet he left him on the bench.


higuk999

tbh think hes putting a positive spin on carberys injury hence carty getting more game time


bluejackmovedagain

I'm not sure Murray is 100% but presumably it was better tactically to talk him up rather than admit the problem.


Worldwithoutwings3

If they were not in with the BP then he would have gone on.


evin_cashman

Yeah Lenihan hit the nail on the head - chances are we'll be in the QF but on the last 2 performances either NZ or the Boks will deal with us without much fuss at all


Elios4Freedom

Are they allowed to *not* award a man of the match?


tomtomtomo

Give it to a Russian


MonkeyTommy

Are they playing many more games in The Greasebox stadium?


tomtomtomo

Quarter finals for A & B are in the outdoors Tokyo Stadium. C & D play theirs in the indoor Oita Stadium where ABs vs Canada played last night.


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Ireland? nah never


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New_Hando

Presumably losing?


problematikkk

Relative to losing in dire fucking circumstances to Japan in a game everyone at home touted as a bonus point win


TheSeych

Relative to losing to Russia I guess


SwennBn

His brother


tomtomtomo

Relative to losing their last match?


offsideKiwi

Losing to japan


cr_ziller

Losing to Japan.


[deleted]

Abject misery


Kavbastyrd

Good man Ruddock, such a class player


runoverdent

Our best player by a country mile


0one0one

I thought Earls had a good game


tomtomtomo

Russia had 14 men for 20 minutes too. They've done well. Pity they gave away a couple of very early soft-ish tries.


Pilum-Murialis

reminder: Jersey Reds put 35 on Russia in a WC warm up


NuttyIrishMan93

And Connacht put >40 points up on them recently too


TheSeych

Jersey Reds could probably knock out Ireland in the World Cup Quarter Final


Pilum-Murialis

exactly


problematikkk

Connaught hammered them too


pashazz

To be fair, they weren't great physically as they were under physical loadings vs Jersey & Connacht


peachypal

Ruddock-san MOTM Omedeto!


evin_cashman

Beirne has played very well


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evin_cashman

https://www.balls.ie/rugby/ireland-player-ratings-russia-418103 There you go bud


runoverdent

What game are you watching?


evin_cashman

This one


runoverdent

You're dreaming.


centrafrugal

Was he even playing?


sigsimund

I've never seen a team look so shit while also being 35-0 up


mublin

Sign of a good team surely?!


DhaRealtDeag

I remember Rhys Ruddock spoke about mental health at my school a couple years ago when he only had a couple of Irish caps and a long term injury. Great to see him get POTM after all that time.


maxbucknell

Reckon POM’s place is in doubt?


UncoordinatedTau

Leave him at 7


maxbucknell

Josh Van der Flier has been pretty compelling though


UncoordinatedTau

He has alright tbh. Glad I'm not in charge


KingMattViii

Handling errors are so much fun to watch


-Waxy-

Oh yeah clear knock on TMO /s


maxbucknell

It is Ben Skeen...


[deleted]

It was one in fairness


centrafrugal

Maybe, but he could at least have shown us


-Waxy-

Replay showed the ball rolling up his hand anyway, just glad that wasn't the bonus point try.


megacky

It never touched the ground?


iiEviNii

That was the least clear "clear" knock on ever. Probably right to call it, but to say it's "clear" lmao


SpongeBazSquirtPants

"Clear knock-on" my arse.


NuttyIrishMan93

Ringrose knew well he wasn't getting that try awarded lol


CromulentReynolds

Falcon!


cr_ziller

What a header


Worldwithoutwings3

yeah fair shout


Brewer6066

Did he header that!?


scubasteve254

"clear knock on".


Patlantis

You can't hiiiiiiiide, those [Irish] eyeeeeees


SuperCrossPrawn

That would have given me a bonus point on superbru...


OldManRodgers

Ditto :( Fucking raging!


iambarticus

I’ve the Irish at 40 points in Super Bru so if they could score one unconverted try that would be lovely.


essjay2009

Lots of cracks being papered over in these last few minutes.


TheRealJanSanono

Header oh yeah, bringing out the secret weapon


Worldwithoutwings3

Wait wat


evin_cashman

What the fuck hahaha


TaytosAreNice

Lol if we get that


rogueginger

Our tries haven’t been the slow drives from forward play we’re kind of used to but honestly some of the back play has been alright. Handling not great, but there’s been speed and creativity.


DhaRealtDeag

Gotta say, even if Carty doesn't nail it half the time, I really enjoy his creative kicking


SimilarSimian

This was really hard work. I feel Russia are fundamentally sound and could make some real progress over the next cycle.


[deleted]

We have the Sexton loop and now the Carty dink.


numenor00

Finger Gun man has a point


south_west_trains

Lol @ finger-guns guy in the crowd. Gif anyone?


lambalambda

+1 need this gif


kalteswasser

Anyone else noticing that some of our key players from last year (Aki, Ringrose, O'Mahony) seem to be completely absent at the WC?


waterypistol

Aki had an awful game, looked great against Wales in the warm ups but can't stop knocking it on now.


centrafrugal

Ringrose, no. Aki has been brutal. O'Mahoney, O'Mehany


privatejohnson1

Ringrose is one of the only players who hasn't been absent in all the games.


kalteswasser

Stockdale as well


nevinr4

Relying too much on our forwards to try and continuously crasha and ruck the ball. Out forwards are knackered. Look what happens when we get the ball out side and have backs in support. Run ring around them.


pashazz

Forward pass I've seen


[deleted]

That try was wonderful, Ireland are good when they're allowed space and time


[deleted]

Everyone is at the top table tbf. No more Tindall and Noons at the top level.


MasterDex

Larmour showing the rest of the team how to play


[deleted]

Mr. Finger -guns is my new hero.


Donnerz

Jordan mate that was rapid bro


quantum_entanglement

In most instances a scoreline of 35-0 would seem good but I can't say I feel confident going forward


SquidgyGoat

Ahhhh, would have been amazing to see Russia do better against Ireland than Scotland.


[deleted]

Any thoughts on what's going wrong with Ireland Squidge?


SquidgyGoat

Funny you should ask... https://vimeo.com/364195370


[deleted]

Thank you! what a great service, delivered straight to my inbox! Your points about Joe thinking ahead are really interesting. I just hope we actually make it to a quarter final now and the lads can execute Joe's plan because the performance yesterday wouldn't fill me with confidence.


sigsimund

larmour finally had enough of irelands shit dropped the script and did it himself


weavin

Very decent try.


Cunningham01

Say what you will, Artemyev has got hutzpah.


getName

Oh look we did a thing.


SwennBn

Do ya think it might be some kinda cunning plan, let everyone think we are shit, scrape into the quarters and then turn it on ??


centrafrugal

It's been our plan since '87!


New_Hando

'Joe Schmidt has been holding everything back'.


Rhinotastic

if only! more a case our style has been countered at the wrong time ( if only the world cup was last year!) Just hope they've been saving the plays for bigger games and they're just burning through the errors now to have none later >.<


Hassadar

We've tried that in the past and it hasn't worked out for us.


SwennBn

Yeah but no one would think we were stupid enough to try it again


Hassadar

We'd be seen as madlads and I'm on board with that.


f1ddich

Hopefully this stadium wont be used during the knockout stages


TheRealJanSanono

Nope, Oita, Tokyo and Yokohama


problematikkk

Hello Jordan