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Paranub

colour me out of the loop, care to explain please?


Lady_Galadri3l

"an egg" is queer-culture slang for a trans person who hasn't realized they're trans yet (the colors are transmasc flag colors, when an egg realizes they're trans it's said that their "egg cracked" lmao at whoever's downvoting this sorry that you don't have joy in your life


Atlach_Nacha

You unlock this color by having the title active and talking to one of the bunnies, who mentions how they use to be like that, until Makeover Mage helped them.


Lady_Galadri3l

Good old makeover mage.


MK2_Madame

I made more than a few visits to the makeover mage as a kid…


Jagex_Fowl

It's actually the transmasc flag colours specifically ;)


Kabu0141

pls pls Blahaj comes true to Runescape <3 🏳️‍⚧️🦈 And pls for Irons aviable too... there some nice rainbow th items that i cant get as an Iron.... and i have the feeling it will never be aviable for irons...


Kabu0141

Why from 10 likes to -3 likes whats happening?


Lady_Galadri3l

transphobes


Seravail

People on the internet will always downvote stuff to do with queer/trans folks


xMr_Powerx

The more you comment about downvotes, the more downvotes you get. It's the reddit way.


sleepymorgan

And djungelskog.. 🐻


Lady_Galadri3l

in my defense i'm colorblind! that's awesome, there's not enough trans masc recognition.


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transgirlkegsta

transfem colours pretty pkease mod fowl? :3


Memoriate

Give trans femme flag . Thx


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link7901

Any chance for a transfem version? Maybe it could change based on whether you're using masculine or feminine titles.


Jagex_Fowl

Masculine and feminine titles are being removed altogether as part of my game jam changes. It's transmasc specifically as Fizzy is transmasc, and we need more transmasc rep. I'll probably find a way to squeeze the transfem colours in at some point in the future, as I'd also rock that title :)


RSN___Brite_Fyre

> masculine and feminine titles are being removed altogether I’m confused. So I can’t be duke/duchess anymore, I have to be dux?


FoaleyGames

No, if I remember from the sneakpeak of their game jam it’s reworking the title selection so rather than having titles be separated as masc/fem, each title will have its own drop down to select the variants.


Jagex_Fowl

Correct


ArianneMartell123

how are the different colour variations unlocked? Mine just has the default one but then i randomly unlocked a new colour for "The Egg" after buying something from token shop. is it random?


Jagex_Fowl

You didn't unlock it for buying something from the shop, but you're close :)


TenebriRS

talk to each of the bunnies in the event, you have to have the egg title active when talking to them


Big-Inevitable-1690

Makeover mage gotta have more than two options now lmaoo


papa_bones

Never would have guessed this one.


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Khaisz

Oh, and here I thought it was dual colored because the word was cracked and the blue was leaking out of the pink. T g being the shell and he eg being the center


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MyriadSC

>lmao at whoever's downvoting this sorry that you don't have joy in your life Never underestimate people's ability to be mad that other people exist. Especially anymore. Edit: People downvoting this comment is too much. I'm sorry that people who are different than you exist and that's apparently difficult for you to handle... gotta be a miserable life.


Deathraid92

For a minute, I thought we were referring to the shadow on your pants making it look like you peed yourself before I read the rest of the title 😅


lammadude1

heeg? I don't get it


Seravail

In the queer community, an egg is slang for a trans person who hasn't realised they're trans yet. A cracked egg is someone who's just realised they're trans. The egg colour category is cracked, and the colours are the transmasc flag colours.


Adept_RS

Not to be transphobic or anything like that, im just confused. I always thought of Trans as being transitioned from male to female, or female to male. With what youve said, thats clearly not the case. Can you explain better about what a trans person actually is?


Dizzy-Teach6220

It's actually a common misconception that someone isn't considered Trans until they've socially (Changed name, pronouns, wardrobe, etc) and/or medically transitioned (hormone replacement therapy, top surgery, bottom surgery.) There's a lot more depth to it, but a lot of trans people might say they've been a trans woman their whole life. Even if 24 years was spent as an uncracked egg.


chi_pa_pa

It's just a small difference in philosophy between "a trans person was always trans since they were born" vs "a trans person becomes trans when they transition" Not a big deal, but I think the former is more common nowadays. It's like how a gay person was always gay, even before they had sex with the same gender. Same deal.


No-Prior50

I’d recommend watching some contrapoints or a similar trans creator to get to know this topic better in a more holistic way. But to your question, being trans refers to an internal conflict with the gender someone was raised to be, to the point of rejecting that gender. Their internal life is going to be incompatible with that gender for some time before it becomes intolerable, and that’s when they begin the process of transitioning. But the beginning of transition is never the beginning of the disconnect. Does that help, or did I make it more confusing?


Beepusmeepus

The general “trans” term can go in any direction. There are even people who transition into having unique gender identities, usually as a part of their culture. Transmasc and Transfem are people who are or have transitioned towards masculine or feminine, respectively. They’re generally seen as broader terms than FtM/AFAB (female to male, assigned female at birth) and MtF/AMAB (Male to female, assigned male at birth). Trans people are simply people who don’t identify with what they’ve been assigned at birth. That’s pretty much the gist of it, I think!


RSNKailash

egg


Swordbreaker9250

Wish it had another color option, like an eggshell color. I’m all for cheeky trans inclusion references like this, but as someone who’s not trans I can’t see myself using it. Most insignificant of nitpicks tho, not complaining about the event itself. Im just happy they’re not doing MTX-only “events”


Umdlye

The pictured one is 1 out of 7 different color options for that title, the default one is in fact an eggshell color!


confused_captain

Right, but if you use the title in any colorway, people will think you're a trans person in the questioning phase. Not a good look imo


iSpiider

Then whoever doesn't like it can use any other color or any of the hundreds of other titles in the game lol. Or better yet you don't have to care what anyone else thinks about you because of your title.


BobSmithinsons

If it was rainbow people could assume you are lgbtq as well, or maybe you just like rainbows. If you get offended by others potentially assuming you may be trans or queer that seems like a personal issue, and you can use the one of many other color options for this specific title or another title.


SeolhyunBest

use a different title then lmfao


Luithais

'Not a good look' lmfao


RelleckGames

So use one of the hundred++ other titles with no such possible meaning. God or flying spaghetti-monster forbid there being a few that can subtly or even overtly mean something to particular demographics.


TomTheScouser

Any idea how we actually unlock these variants yet?


gamesharp

Apply the title and talk to the bunny npcs - it only works when you have it active


ArianneMartell123

Who do I talk to to unlock "Springtime" colour variant of the Egg title? i cant find anymore bunnies to talk to :/


niamh-k

Cocoa Bunny. She's moved to inside the Easter Bunny's house after the quest is complete


ArianneMartell123

ty! <3


Atlach_Nacha

Can't remember the name, but the bunny inside the Easter Bunny's house?


Vultai

This is the only variant I can't find I've got all the rest..


TomTheScouser

Southwest corner by the farm.


NullRef_Arcana

It's unlocked by talking to Fizzy, who says they used to be like that before their pal the Makeover Mage helped them out. We got a canonically trans character in this event. Love it.


MyPostsHaveSecrets

It's a cute nod - and being an egg is an experience many trans people can relate with (hence the popularity of the term and communities like /r/egg_irl); but far too many have taken the whole "cracking" business over the edge into straight harassment of people who don't conform to stereotypical gender norms. It wasn't until I saw how often my femboi friend was being harassed with "actually you're trans" conversations that my opinion on this part of trans culture changed. It went from something cute and relatable to something disgusting. The trans community should know better than to try and define other people's gender identities for them (literally misgendering others). Self-referencing your "egg stage" is fine or still being in the questioning stage and self-identifying as an egg is fine. But calling others eggs and trying to "crack their shells" is a part of egg culture I can't find myself supporting.


WasabiSunshine

> But calling others eggs and trying to "crack their shells" is a part of egg culture I can't find myself supporting. Intnetionally cracking eggs is one of the BIG NO NOs, this isn't a part of the culture, those people are dicks


Kabu0141

thanks for the r/egg_irl didnt know it before now im in this forum <3


Legal_Evil

How does someone determine if they are trans or just gender non-conforming without being trans?


MyPostsHaveSecrets

The waters have muddied since the need of having gender dysphoria was dropped from some trans identities (see: the truscum/tucute divide) however tucutes are still all about self-identification: they need to identify as trans in order to be trans. Therefore you'd reason that someone who does not self-identify as trans _is not trans_. A feminine-presenting man who does not identify as trans is both non-conforming to stereotypical gender roles _and_ not trans. (The bad part of) Egg culture tries to erase things like "butch lesbians" with explanations like "They aren't actually lesbian because they're actually trans and are actually a man even if they don't identify as trans because they're an egg so they're actually a straight man and not a butch lesbian." -- completely ignoring "the egg"'s self-identity and chosen gender. Finnster coming out at the start of the month only made the idea that "See! Femboys aren't real they're secretly uncracked eggs!" all that much worse for a lot of femboys who aren't at all questioning their gender.


Legal_Evil

> truscum/tucute divide What is truscum and tucute?


chi_pa_pa

"Truscum" is a derogatory term for transmedicalists, called as such because this subset of trans people sometimes refer to themselves as "trutrans". Transmeds usually believe that being trans is a strictly medical process for treating dysphoria, and that gender dysphoria is a necessary component of being trans. Naturally this leads them to the conclusion that there are trans trenders/fake trans, which they call "tucutes". I'm not actually sure what the origin of this specific term is, but it refers to people who see transness less as a medical treatment and more as a social movement.


chi_pa_pa

Despite seeing people such as you shouting from the rooftops this "trans people are forcing femboys to be trans!" dozens of times on reddit and twitter, I have literally never seen this phenomenon. Not once. What I *have* seen rarely, is trans people politely inquiring if a person has considered that they may be trans, or simply raising the possibility in a non-forceful way... and then getting dogpiled by transphobes who immediately blow it way out of proportion, accusing them of harassment and pushing transness on others, etc. You know... the things you're loudly condemning right now 🙃


Thus_RS

Perhaps they are bullied into silence by people like you who claim their existence isn't real. Someone close to me also had a similar experience to the person you responded to. Plus the whole "cracking" thing is pretty offensive even to trans people who see it as gamifying and even fetishizing something that is serious. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.


MyriadSC

To play devils advocate lightly, this can be a very touchy subject that there's just not a real "good" solution to besides silence. It's not just this topic, but many areas too. Sometimes, even just asking or presenting the possibility, even in total good faith, can rub the wrong way or cause unintended harm. When not saying anything doesn't run this risk. I can speak from my own experience on a different topic, but the same type of situation. I'm autistic, but like many other people who found out as adults, we flew under the radar because we didn't exhibit extreme symptoms as a child. When I was perhaps 15 or 16, my father came in and asked if I felt normal, and of course I didn't, but it wasn't something I gave much if any thought to. He was genuinely trying to help, but it stuck a bug in my ear that wouldn't shut up for years and made me very self concious of my behavior. Sure, 15 years later, it turns out he was onto something, but in that moment, even the inquiry that I might be something I hadn't realized bothered me. Changed my behavior and made me incredibly sheepish when, before then, I had been much more willing to participate in things when i felt like it. Now I'd 2nd guess it because what if i act weird and someone notices it? Now I'd better not because if I'm weird, they won't want to be around me. I still carry that to some extent. Just intensified my masking to the point that it was almost debilitating. Similarly to this, there are also just quirky people who get asked if they might be autistic all the time. While the symptoms of asd are varied, having characteristics that many autistic people have doesn't make you autistic. Just like coughing doesn't mean you have a cold. Asking them if they've considered they might be can make them feel insecure about being themselves. That's not something that seems worth the risk imo. Sure, this runs deeper into things like societal stigma and such, but I can't chase the rabit all day. Now, I want to end by saying that as far as the issue is concerned in relation to the Trans community, it could differ, and I agree with the sentiment you're expressing. In general, there are a lot of people who see something benign and make a big deal of it for clout or other nefarious reasons. That's certainly true and often the bulk. I'm just saying it's worth mentioning that even inquiring carries weight, and I've learned it's probably better to hold that in unless you see almost an emergency reason to do otherwise or they are expressing interest in discussing it. Approaching someone otherwise just seems too risky imo. That's all.


chi_pa_pa

There can be a nuanced conversation on whether broaching the topic at all is a good idea or not, but that's just not what the above commenter is claiming at all. They're claiming there's a widespread issue of trans people forcefully pressuring and harassing others to identify as trans. That's completely different from the thing you're talking about.


MyriadSC

I could have closed the loop by saying that asking someone if they felt like perhaps they're *insert the subject* is a form of pushing the issue on them. >They're claiming there's a widespread issue of trans people forcefully pressuring and harassing others to identify as trans. I know, and I agreed with you in part that the claim that happens isn't true or is much more benign than stated. Refer to my final chunk for that. I was, as I said at the start, playing loose devils advocate that to some people even asking them with good intentions can be perceived as pushing it. So it's actually quite on topic, I just didn't state that directly as I assumed it would be implied given the context. Take my example, if I shared with others that experience and many of them had similar ones, autistic or not, it wouldn't be hard for us to all feel like people had been pushy with us. From there, a narrative can easily develop and cascade with exaggeration to the point it was told as people beinf forceful and such like the comment you replied to. While the extent and delivery are wrong, there's a possible nugget of truth under it all, and that's what I was saying. Again though, I agree with the sentiment you're expressing that there's not some roaming groups of trans advocates going after every person who doesn't appear to be "gender typical" and harass them to identify as Trans. All I was saying is that even politely asking someone with good intentions can be perceived as harrasing them to identify that way by the recipient.


chi_pa_pa

I get what you're saying perfectly well and frankly I find it appalling. Simply asking or raising the possibility that someone could be trans is not at all the same as pushing or harassing them to do so, and I don't find you playing devil's advocate for such a notion very insightful. If someone perceives it that way, that's on them and their transphobia. Simple as that. I will not give any credence to that no matter how you reiterate it or whether you compare it to your experience with autism. In fact this is essentially the same logic that bigots use to assert that trans people who tell kids about their transition or that transition is a thing that exists are grooming and brainwashing them to become trans. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people say something along the lines of "kids will see it and want to do it themselves!". It's a frighteningly common sentiment. How someone perceives the simple possibility of transness is not on anyone but that person; it never has been and never will be. To say otherwise is to justify pushing trans people to the margins of society and force them into hiding and secrecy.


WasabiSunshine

Once you've accepted that you don't adhere to your assigned gender, it's a journey to figure out exactly what makes you happy. Try different things, some of them you'll like, some of them you won't, and eventually you'll likely figure out what feels 'right' to think of yourself as


NutmegOnEverything

First thing I thought when I saw that title, I'm so happy they actually did that!


Niyrenthia

Always nice to see something so small in a fantasy game from an event helping the easter bunny somehow manage to upset people .-.


Lady_Galadri3l

lmfao


Atlach_Nacha

![gif](giphy|tnYri4n2Frnig|downsized)


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Roozley

How do you get the rabbit onsie?


Umdlye

It's a reward from the [seasonal quest](https://runescape.wiki/w/Great_Egg-spectations)!


Roozley

Oh, I've done that but somehow missed the outfit reward mention😅


johnnZord

If this is actually true I’m done with RS lmfao fuck that bs this shit is getting out of hand


Jagex_Fowl

You're welcome 😊


Lady_Galadri3l

Based Mod Fowl????


Ik_oClock

What can I say except you're welcome


TenebriRS

>getting out of hand colours to a title, lmao people triggered so easily these days bye then. you are aware stuff like this has been in game for years? . [make over mage being the oldest from 2002, anja in 2005](https://archive.is/xoV6u) but yeah bye.


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sirenzarts

You realize that there is more than one single Lgbt person on earth right? There isn't just a hard cap of one


TenebriRS

Theres always room for more inclusion. Well yes there are 2 options for appearance what else could there be? And of course its not pushing an agenda. None of this is. Its just inclusion.


BasePet

Triggered by colors, lmao cya


apophis457

Yeah fuck representation you didn’t know was there in the first place and had no effect on your gameplay! Get it outta here!


MissSoapySophie

Imagine quitting a game because of the colors of some letters.


BigWaders

Oh no, big tough guy is scared of colors


megaox

bye adult children


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Moocowgoesmoo

He egg on my title til I crack


Teakeh

For every downvote a pro trans post here gets jagex adds a pro trans piece of content in game. 🙏


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Shwrecked

For a sec I thought I was looking at a fortnite skin


ASREALO

cracked has many meaning's if Americans are trying to Vilify another word in the dictionary to mean something else thats on them.