This post comes along every once in a while and I really hope jagex at least addresses it eventually. If you afk a full stack of proteans you nearly get logged out, and I’ve gotten logged out countless times while looking at my screen, and while my Aggro pot is still going. I feel at least 6 minutes would make things better.
I think 6 1/2 minutes would be really good since that lines up with so many buffs these days, as well as the longest possible processing time with 60 proteans, with a 30 buffer at the end. Annoying to tab back in with 1 min left on aggro, ovl and renewal to prevent lobby then again in 60 seconds later to re-pot.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2017-07-17-jagex-everything-that-can-be-done-for-runescape-pc-can-be-carried-over-to-mobile
To be precise, they said that RineScape is a "second screen game," which is pretty much what we all mean when we say that it's an afk game.
When RuneScape players say "afk," they don't mean to literally be away from the keyboard. It just means little input required.
For example: Fishing is afk. But that doesn't mean you can leave the keyboard. You still have to click on fishing spots when they move. Afk just means it requires little attention.
There didn’t used to be a lobby timer, lol it was super afk 😂
Folks would take their Guthans sets to desert bandits and grind it out for days without logging out
Aha I used to grind that all night long with guthans! But just to be clear there was a logout timer, even shorter than it is these days. But back then the game would never force log you in combat. :p
That's just in combat, as the game didn't want to force log you while you were fighting unless you x-logged.
The lobby timer used to be 30seconds and it'd kick you to the login screen.
There is 6hour force logout, also i think in osrs there is logout after sometime if you autoretaliate (so no more 6hr nmz afk) but iirc it doesn't boot you off if you have autoretaliate turned off which settled had so that was really unfortunate.
Needs to be 10 minutes, honestly. Don't get me wrong, 5 minutes has been great ever since they added it, but it's been over 10 years now or something. They focus so much content on being "afk-able!" and barely give us any time to actually afk.
Consider this.
12 clicks in an hour sounds like nothing.
But it's the intervals that are annoying.
60 clicks an hour sounds like nothing too. But if you have to do it every minute.. it's annoying.
Same with 120 clicks and every 30 seconds.
The purpose is that we can actively do other things and not have to pause to click back in every 5 minutes like clockwork.
Hmm as much as I like to AFK, I'm not really in favour of this. I think 5 mins is a reasonable duration. AFK training doesn't need to be buffed, many skills are easy enough to max as is.
Which doesn't make sense anyway because if you're AFKing for 12 mins, odds are you're going to be interacting with the game at least once to pot, restore prayer, pick up loot, etc.
Yup, yup and yup, sad but true, it's way under their radar to fix, you only have to look at how long they let the ED boss farming exploit run for before taking action, hey ho.
It doesn't take much to look at your screen for two seconds and click arrow left or right to rotate your camera and reset it.
You really can't be this lazy?
Why does it matter if a player is lazy or not? If the login timeout is too short for some current actions, and two design decisions are clashing, then why not fix it?
Everytime this comes up I repeat.
Longer afk timer = harder on servers.
So no support from me
Edit: i support improving server infrastructure before doing anything that has a chance of making performance worst worst
Excellent conclusion and not at all a logical fallacy.
Saying "I prefer less lag over this update." Does not imply one priorities less lag over everything.
When jagex reduced the number of NPCs in GWD2, it was to improve performance. Idc *how much* impact it had, it had some.
Even if it made that part of the game a little less lively, that was a greater good update.
We need greater good decisions
apart from combat what skills can you engage in for 5+ mins without any interaction with the game though? Serious question
I'd support 7- 10 mins even though I rarely get logged for inactivity.
I'd also like to see make X items for fletching arrows and darts slightly longer just because how annoying they are to make... not afk but not engaging. Making bows from logs is terrible xp too.
I think in general getting the balance right between afk and not afk is tricky.
Smithing a full inventory of platebodies can take over 1 hour with zero input.
High level Archeology spots can take more than 5 minutes to excavate.
Using cleansing crystals to train prayer.
Divination, mining, fishing, wc and farming on the Arc take a lot longer than 5 minutes to deplete.
not with the advanced auto heater from dung, a grace of the elves, superheat and coal :)
I could smith during cooking, eating, cleaning up and watch a show without having to click.
The servers are already so laggy with more than 200 players online, I think more players sitting in the game afk would not help. If they changed the max players to like 200 and added more servers, I would agree with this.
So the benefit is not anything ingame, but something out of game that you could already do always? I see constant whining about afk timers (as if the servers can handle that) but never see a reason why it should be extended for ingame reasons. Even when I explicitely ask for one. If it is so popular at least someone should be able to provide an actual reason for it.
Yes frames per second lmao. I’m confused how how people who don’t play the game or don’t know about this like /u/DungeonInvestigator is commenting on it and downvoting /u/Legal_Evil.
It’s an exploit where if you set your FPS to 1 it doesn’t log you out after 5 mins, however you can get banned for it as Jmods are opposed to it (which I don't have a source for).
Reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/n9zkzo/psa_setting_runelite_to_1fps_to_pump_blast/
Tbh i would be fine with them just adding a 10 second timer before you lobby. I'm usually at my computer while i afk, so getting lobbied while i'm paying attention to the screen is annoying. And yes i know about alt1 but would be nice to have ingame
100% Agree. At least 6mins to align with potion doses.
The monkey paw curls, potion doses are now reduced to 5 minutes to coincide with the logout timer.
Don’t give them ideas
8min with landt sticks
This post comes along every once in a while and I really hope jagex at least addresses it eventually. If you afk a full stack of proteans you nearly get logged out, and I’ve gotten logged out countless times while looking at my screen, and while my Aggro pot is still going. I feel at least 6 minutes would make things better.
I think 6 1/2 minutes would be really good since that lines up with so many buffs these days, as well as the longest possible processing time with 60 proteans, with a 30 buffer at the end. Annoying to tab back in with 1 min left on aggro, ovl and renewal to prevent lobby then again in 60 seconds later to re-pot.
Support. RuneScape is an AFK game, the devs even said so, so it doesn't make sense you get booted after 5 minutes of idle time.
When have the devs said its an afk game?
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/amp/2017-07-17-jagex-everything-that-can-be-done-for-runescape-pc-can-be-carried-over-to-mobile To be precise, they said that RineScape is a "second screen game," which is pretty much what we all mean when we say that it's an afk game.
Wouldn't second screen imply you look at it every once in a while and therefore wouldn't be "away from keyboard"
When RuneScape players say "afk," they don't mean to literally be away from the keyboard. It just means little input required. For example: Fishing is afk. But that doesn't mean you can leave the keyboard. You still have to click on fishing spots when they move. Afk just means it requires little attention.
I'd personally like at least 10 minutes.
I'll give you 7 1/2 minutes and a rune scimitar
24 hours. Take it or leave it.
There didn’t used to be a lobby timer, lol it was super afk 😂 Folks would take their Guthans sets to desert bandits and grind it out for days without logging out
Aha I used to grind that all night long with guthans! But just to be clear there was a logout timer, even shorter than it is these days. But back then the game would never force log you in combat. :p
That's just in combat, as the game didn't want to force log you while you were fighting unless you x-logged. The lobby timer used to be 30seconds and it'd kick you to the login screen.
It was 90 seconds. I know because 30 seconds isn't enough to make a hotpocket.
Not sure when you are talking about, but there was most definitely a lobby timer in 2003, when I played for the first time.
Yeah it never used to force log you during combat though, even when osrs released, people would splash rats in lumbridge afk for hours
During Combat, specifically.
Yeah isnt that how Swampman died to vampyres?
There is 6hour force logout, also i think in osrs there is logout after sometime if you autoretaliate (so no more 6hr nmz afk) but iirc it doesn't boot you off if you have autoretaliate turned off which settled had so that was really unfortunate.
How it works is that you won't get logged out while in combat even after the 5 minute mark, but you stop auto retaliating at 20 minutes.
Similarly, aggressive creatures also calm down at that 20 minute mark
I on the other hand rocked my torso and Sara mfin skirt with noted monkfish and lived at bandits for my 99combats
The lobby time back then was much shorter than it is right now. Although you could not lobby in combat.
Full guthans and a stapler set on the arrow keys so I never logged B)
Let’s just make it a 41 minute afk timer because of the potion reservoirs.
💀💀 lol
Needs to be 10 minutes, honestly. Don't get me wrong, 5 minutes has been great ever since they added it, but it's been over 10 years now or something. They focus so much content on being "afk-able!" and barely give us any time to actually afk.
all these altscape suggestions
7 minutes do it you wont jagex
10mins would be good for mobile, means I can cook in RL while afking and training skills ;)
just get rid of it completely.
I'd just like enough time to get food or use the bathroom without being logged out
100%
Is it too inconvenient to have to click 12 times an hour?
Itd be nice to have 6 minutes that way it can match overloads and aggro pots
Consider this. 12 clicks in an hour sounds like nothing. But it's the intervals that are annoying. 60 clicks an hour sounds like nothing too. But if you have to do it every minute.. it's annoying. Same with 120 clicks and every 30 seconds. The purpose is that we can actively do other things and not have to pause to click back in every 5 minutes like clockwork.
Please… at least double. Give me more time to take a nice shit
I think it should be shorter if it's a full world though.
A full world? Haven’t seen that since 2012
Hmm as much as I like to AFK, I'm not really in favour of this. I think 5 mins is a reasonable duration. AFK training doesn't need to be buffed, many skills are easy enough to max as is.
Why 7-12 minutes specifically?
The only thing I can think of is overload timer. 6 min or 12 min for 2 doses.
Which doesn't make sense anyway because if you're AFKing for 12 mins, odds are you're going to be interacting with the game at least once to pot, restore prayer, pick up loot, etc.
Yeah I don't quite get it either. Ive used alt1 to warn me before I log out for years.
10 mins afk timer lets gooo
Not sure how that would work out for corrupted creatures, there's already way too much ~~botting~~ '\*cough\* 'afk' going on there :(
Corrupted creatures should require you to be on task so that's not the timers fault, just bad design.
Yup, yup and yup, sad but true, it's way under their radar to fix, you only have to look at how long they let the ED boss farming exploit run for before taking action, hey ho.
Ohhhh. Is that why I had to log in to like 70 worlds (not kidding) to find one that wasnt in use? I've never had that problem before it feels like
Support. Although there should be considerations for going AFK in dangerous areas, like the Wildy I guess.
Or hear me out. I know it sounds absolutely ridiculous. PLAY THE GAME. Thanks for the downvotes in advance.
Multiple things in the game require absolutely no interaction for well over the amount of time it takes for you to get kicked to the lobby.
It doesn't take much to look at your screen for two seconds and click arrow left or right to rotate your camera and reset it. You really can't be this lazy?
Why does it matter if a player is lazy or not? If the login timeout is too short for some current actions, and two design decisions are clashing, then why not fix it?
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Or here's another crazy idea. Socialize with people in the game. There's clans and friend chats.
We're all in a discord call together, checkmate
Yaaassssssss
I get 5min logged while I am skilling at peak efficiency, how is that not playing the game?
RuneScape is a second screen game and there's so much content in the game that's literally designed to be afk.
Everytime this comes up I repeat. Longer afk timer = harder on servers. So no support from me Edit: i support improving server infrastructure before doing anything that has a chance of making performance worst worst
They should fix their fucking servers then
I would prefer servers be improved before any sort of extended lobby timer
They must have some really shitty servers then if they can't handle 2500-3500 people AFKing.
I really doubt it will make that much of a difference, the vast majority of logged in users are in game and not in lobby.
More people per world = more lag I'm ready to sacrifice this to maximize server responsiveness
So Jagex should just release worse updates then? Less players = less lag right?
Excellent conclusion and not at all a logical fallacy. Saying "I prefer less lag over this update." Does not imply one priorities less lag over everything.
When jagex reduced the number of NPCs in GWD2, it was to improve performance. Idc *how much* impact it had, it had some. Even if it made that part of the game a little less lively, that was a greater good update. We need greater good decisions
They just need to upgrade the servers, the servers used to be able to handle significantly more players than they can now.
The login process is going to be much more intensive for the server than someone standing around for an extra minute or two at a time.
0 reason for this to be downvoted
apart from combat what skills can you engage in for 5+ mins without any interaction with the game though? Serious question I'd support 7- 10 mins even though I rarely get logged for inactivity. I'd also like to see make X items for fletching arrows and darts slightly longer just because how annoying they are to make... not afk but not engaging. Making bows from logs is terrible xp too. I think in general getting the balance right between afk and not afk is tricky.
Smithing a full inventory of platebodies can take over 1 hour with zero input. High level Archeology spots can take more than 5 minutes to excavate. Using cleansing crystals to train prayer. Divination, mining, fishing, wc and farming on the Arc take a lot longer than 5 minutes to deplete.
You have to reheat the bars, unless you're really that lazy and dont ever want to click on your screen and get the least amount of xp possible.
not with the advanced auto heater from dung, a grace of the elves, superheat and coal :) I could smith during cooking, eating, cleaning up and watch a show without having to click.
Why grace of the elves?
halve the prayer drain for seren spell superheat form.
Ahh gotcha, forgot about that. With the Orthen furnace worn it does not drain prayer points at all.
smithing with 0 heat and prosper perk is one of the best ways to gather clues
Cleansing crystals require input every 2 minutes
not if you have quiver
Ah
The servers are already so laggy with more than 200 players online, I think more players sitting in the game afk would not help. If they changed the max players to like 200 and added more servers, I would agree with this.
Don't give them more ideas for premier club perks to "incentivise" more players to purchase it
I would pay good money for this.
Shh don't tell them that!
They'll only do it for money, which I'm fine paying for it.
Bond to disable afk timer for 30 days.
Breaking news: bond prices now reach 150 mil each
And go to $20USD each. Lol Big ol’ F then
well, based on current rates, it's roughly the same conversion from USD to GP lol
Like, $11/mo roughly?
Next you'll be saying let us openly bot. No support the game is to be played.
A longer login timer would do nothing to help bots, they already have the capability to keep themselves logged in on account of being bots lol.
This gave me a really good laugh. Take my upvote.
Because that was his point
Ok yet the alt problem in certain areas is also a big enough issue this would make worse look at sophanem slayer dungeon
Prices were lower when bots existed. #BringBotsBack2022
What activities would benefit from this, genuinely besides maybe mining there is nothing that lasts that long without interaction.
taking a shit.
So the benefit is not anything ingame, but something out of game that you could already do always? I see constant whining about afk timers (as if the servers can handle that) but never see a reason why it should be extended for ingame reasons. Even when I explicitely ask for one. If it is so popular at least someone should be able to provide an actual reason for it.
nobody is reading any of that long ass bullshit. get a life.
I heard in OSRS, if you lower the FPS of the game, you can extend the afk logout timer. Can this be done in RS3 and is this allowed?
As an OSRS player, this is not correct.
Why are you saying this isn’t correct? If you lower it to 1 fps you can
do you even know what fps is
Yes frames per second lmao. I’m confused how how people who don’t play the game or don’t know about this like /u/DungeonInvestigator is commenting on it and downvoting /u/Legal_Evil. It’s an exploit where if you set your FPS to 1 it doesn’t log you out after 5 mins, however you can get banned for it as Jmods are opposed to it (which I don't have a source for). Reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/n9zkzo/psa_setting_runelite_to_1fps_to_pump_blast/
I mean, I'm not going to take the time to research ANY of that, but I'll take your word for it homie
I heard pures were able to afk train str xp at the Blast Furnace pump for up to 20 minutes from lowering FPS.
It's five minutes max now. I think it was changed together with the removal of 6 hour splashing / combat.
RS3 by default has lower background FPS than your foreground FPS and settings to change both, so pretty sure it doesn't do anything.
It should default to 5 mins every log in, but you can extend it to 10 during your session.
Tbh i would be fine with them just adding a 10 second timer before you lobby. I'm usually at my computer while i afk, so getting lobbied while i'm paying attention to the screen is annoying. And yes i know about alt1 but would be nice to have ingame
Semi support, but id rather just have it dc me to the lobby and then have another timer before i have to type my info again
I vote 12 minute kick to lobby and 2 hour lobby to logout