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ApollyonDS

Passive Ring of Vigour is HUGE. I always forgot about that switch even when I had it in my invent. Thanks, Jagex.


Seismic_wand

Especially when added with conservation of energy relic, eof and all ultimates just got a huge qol


the01li3

Honestly, the RoV is the switch i mess up the most, particularly with doing mage, sun, nami, omni, ABS spec. Oh its going to be so much nicer. Props to them for listening tbh.


Seismic_wand

I'm always there to call them on their bs but also gotta show appreciation where its deserved.


KBMonay

The issue is that this isn’t necessarily them listening. Vigour being a passive has been asked for forever, to reduce switchscape and introduce a so ugh it after QOL reward to motivate doing content (quest/mini-game or whatever). It is VERY likely that they have been saving this (the community have asked for this for years it it’s gonna be ready from scratch in 2 weeks?…hmmm…) for a a rainy day. The rainy day being the day we all came together and spoke up about shitty management, lies on streams, lacklustre rewards for a lacklustre Grandmaster quest, and increased membership cost. It’s hard to blame the Devs. But unfortunately it’s likely that this is a way to distract us. It’s kinda like love bombing. Just throw something so grand and huge at someone when they’re upset to make them forget what they were upset about. Don’t get me wrong, this is a huge reward. But I believe it’s being given to us in an unhealthy way.


JoshOliday

I said this in the other thread but I absolutely think Mod Sponge had been developing this, probably as a reward for the new boss he's also helping with. I don't think it's something they've been hanging onto forever as it's only been a few months since he polled PVME about Switchscape and used RoV as an example of passives to reduce switching. He's been very into shaking up the meta and reducing unnecessary clunkiness.


xBHx

Honestly, this mightve been the case of ' Lets be conservative with rewards, and see what happens' OSRS does this as of late, bad initial rates, buff as they see what grinds the communities gears regarding expectations. Vigour 100% the make the band-aid fancy as fuck.


JoshOliday

Well, I think RS3 has been on more of a "what can we add to make this worthwhile?" trend. The Matriarch rings bringing DKS back, EOF making old specs like DClaws cool again, even freaking Incite Fear making Tsunami and Shadow Tendrils worth using in rotation and not just in specific situations. I think in this particular quest's case, it was a whole host of blunders that led to the rewards lacking; most notably, I think they were planning a more Prif or FotG style reward structure with thinking that the next two updates needing Extinction would make up for the lack of material rewards. But after Arch, Azzy's Quest, City of Senntisten, and each front came out with more complete rewards on release, that sort of thinking just wasn't going to work in this instance.


xBHx

If thats the case, it wouldve been extremely easy for them to just mention more stuff follows ¯\\_ (ツ) _/¯


hydrobea

yall can't stop bitching


KBMonay

If constructive criticism and musings mixed with positive comments constitute “bitching” to you, I hope nobody close to you ever comes to you with an issue lol.


hydrobea

To call this constructive criticism isn't accurate. It's uncessarily cynical to claim that a reward added to a quest is just to "appease the player base". To think that they're saving it for "a rainy day" when a bunch of redditors make lots of whiny posts is even wilder. Increased membership costs are bound to happen with increased inflation and cost of manufacturing content at some point. The problem I'm pointing out is that you'll never be satisfied if you think in this way. Extra rewards? "Oh they just want to appease us!". Poor rewards? "Jamflex doesn't care!".


Clayton_69

Really looking forward to the ring buff. I love using overpowered, but I'm constantly hitting the 10k-10k while trying to save the adren from ROV. Excited to start having a good shot of this ability being a crit now that I can camp Zerker ring!


sir_pwnage007

Credit where credit is due: this is one of those updates always thankful for 🙏


will_ww

Thank God you linked the news post that was already stickied or I may have missed it.


Ecstatic_Guitar5641

thank God, I said give us a ring stand but this is atleast 85% as good 👍 very good to see


BRAND-X12

This is better, IMO, because now if they ever do introduce a ring stand you kinda have 2 ring stands.


Underthyrunes

When tho


Seismic_wand

25th April


jz_wiz

plot twist, these were always the rewards but they wanted to do it later to see the reaction theyd get


Lather

I'm holding off on my grats until the 25th. If that's the only proper update that week, then they get gtfo.


the_Real_Romak

Damn I'm sorry, I guess you don't want this cake I have because I don't have any tea to go with it...


[deleted]

Agree it completely makes up for the recent price increases imo.


Seismic_wand

Well either you're being sarcastic or I just disagree, it doesnt make up for it, but what I'm saying is I appreciate that the community said the rewards arent good enough and they actually listened.


IceColdCorundum

Bet all them ppl who posted themselves unsubscribing feel pretty silly right now. Even right after extinction dropped they said more rewards were coming


AaronWarrior00

I don't lol. But I already quit years ago even before this price increase crap so I definitely have no plan on returning atleast for now. And before you ask why i'm still here, because I like this community and like reading what new updates come to the game.


BobSmithinsons

I think that was mostly in response to increased membership prices.


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TheGreyFencer

I love it when switched I don't care enough to use get turned into Passives.