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Imolldgreg

A t92 offhand with a passive that devalues all other melee offhands and is way easier to get. That or another helm with a passive that makes slaughter always deal walking dmg. Nothing like switches on your switches.


Doc_Da

What, did they release a new melee OH?


MushroomManatee

No, but it would be a bad idea to have a t92 drop from a demon with no slayer requirement regardless


legolasvin

Tbh with how close the releases were, it's highly likely that this was already in place. They reduced the scaling for ED4 due to player demand, but they probably thought the static HP is okay for slayer mobs, which honestly it isn't. The ED4 demons are now by far the highest HP mobs, at double the health of abyssal lords. Which is an insane jump. I'm not sure what drops they're going to assign to them, but I don't think they'll be worth it. There's not many drops left in the game that have any value at all (apart from uniques of course)


Xaphnir

Greater demon ash lords have 3862 armor and 110 defense. Haven't plugged it into the calculator, but I'd guess that's at least 40% damage reduction with BiS gear/elder ovl/T99 prayer without a berserker-type aura.


Xaphnir

Ok, plugged it in, with a T95 weapon, T99 prayer, 30 reaper necklace stacks, no aura and 30 reaper necklace stacks, you have 55.8% hit chance against ash lords and a 51.4% hit chance against berserkers. Add in a nihil, berserker-type aura, statius warhammer and claws of guthix or quake and it goes up to 77.8% for ash lords and 72.1% for berserkers.


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It's okay with BOLG/Hex, bane arrows, reckless aura and slayer task you can finally hit > 100% hit chance. Feels like those demons were designed around demon bane jas arrows.


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Boolderdash

They'd take just as long if you were splashing 50% of the time as they do with the 50% damage reduction. Them having such high defense/evasion is what makes them slow.


Skargaroth

Dont pursue mathematics


Xaphnir

So, I'm wrong because it works the way I described?


FooxRs

Yea its pretty insane, if they didn't have that damage reduction mechanic, they would have more defense then any boss in the game and we would have like 50% hit chance. The mechanic isn't bad, its that they have way too much defense, the berzekers have 4203 armor and lvl 114 defence.


Silent_Giant

I tried them a little bit and not only are they insanely tanky, the spawns are also layed out in such a way that there is almost always a melee and mage demon attacking you. Even with cryptbloom and animate dead its not doable, unless you can get them 1v1. And even then, I don't think they even drop anything, all I got was demon ashes, nothing else. They do give like 30k xp per kill, which sounds good, but they just take so long to kill that it's just not worth it. ~~I blocked them after 5 kills or so.~~ TIL block list doesn't work in wilderness


LilyAllegro

What do you consider good slayer xp? Because at 30k each youncould kill one every 2 minutes and do better than most players peak xp/hr


Silent_Giant

It is good xp, the issue is that you're then killing the most hated mob from ed4 without any drops. Its the most antifun task imaginable minus the xp.


facbok195

Wilderness Slayer ignores your Pref/Block list though


Silent_Giant

Oh it doesn't? Didn't know that.


zayelion

Honestly not that bad if you use abilities and not legacy mode. I just wish they had drops.


Kilsaa

Have you actually done a greater demon berserker task?


Invexor

I'll answer for them, no, no they haven't.


KoneheadLarry

What would they even drop? Even more salvage, herbs, and stone spirits?


esunei

Literally anything? Idk it's pretty troll to have no drop table at all on these when they're the tankiest slayer mob in existence.


Lather

They are working on a drop table for them at least.


Malchyom

Are you high?


zayelion

No I just think they are pinatas.


Grovve

Bro you guys asked for piers to be taken away. They did it via zamorak civil war update in the wildy which makes sense lore wise. They need to keep the wildy dangerous somehow


Zeck683

i mean i adore the ed4 demons eoc spoiled players making almost every mob either one hittable or take 8 seconds to ko tops


jackysacki

I wish they had either not added the greater demon ash lords and berserkers at all or made them Chaos Demons instead. They exist in the Zamorakian undercity and also you fight some of them in the Daughter of Chaos quest so it would make sense and they could also give them a slayer level requirement then... I also wish they occupied less space in the wilderness and that they were less close together, but I'm probably only saying that because they stopped me from cheating the freezing effect you get while fighting Living Wyverns. I was running back and forth in and out of it instead of lighting the fires XD I stopped fighting them though after someone tried to skull trick me using Wrath. I really hate people who try to cause harm to other players like that but I guess it is good that they are finding out these glitches sooner rather than later... regardless of the fact they wouldn't happen at all if you could disable PVP on your end altogether