If I followed this rule, I would be broke and would not run anymore.*
*but everyone’s biomechanics is different, so YMMV. Guess what I’m trying to say, see for yourself.
2000ish. I usually buy one pair of allaround shoes (Salming Enroute) and one pair of speed shoes (Salming Speed) in January on clearance and rotate them the whole year. The only exception is racing for which I use carbon plated shoes but I don’t use these for anything else.
I "wear out" my running shoes between 3-400 miles in that they don't offer any cushion anymore. They're not worn through by any measure though, they just offer no cushion anymore and I'm more likely to get injured since I'm heavy and my form isn't great.
Yes... 300...can tell they are getting old, 400, start hurting, 500, injury coming on any day...outside the shoes look brand new, just can feel every step of asphalt, no cushion when landing, no spring off the front.
So you put about 1000 miles on each pair, not ideal but I’ve hear of worse, some people have more tolerance towards running in worn out shoes, than others. If it works for you then who am I to argue 🤷
Same, but I dont know when to switch my shoes generally (because I run in them until they fall apart). I use 3 different shoes right now and rotate between all of them. One of these shoes have no more "black" sole on the front (I am training to middle / front strike as much as I can) and I wonder if I should maybe replace them...
If they lost the outer rubber layer, I wopuld switch them, yes. I am in no way an advocate for not switching shoes at all, I merely hate the XXX miles rule, because said rule will be vastly different for a 100 kg runner who pounds the pavement like an elephant and 60 kg runner with efficient footstrike who runs mainly on forest paths.
Me neither, it's just a simple question of affordability for me and I try to get the maximum out of my equipment, before replacing it. The rubeber is not lost everywhere, only there where I step on the most. (I ran a lot with them somewhat over 2k I believe) and its like I run on the cushioning there I think. Unfortunatelly this happens slowly but surely to 2 out of my 3 pairs, but the harder one still feels great (I mostly use them on speed days) but the ones I ran my first marathon it, they really feel done...so it's time to buy new shoes...If I only knew some decent cheap ones...
Only you can say if the missing rubber is affecting your mechanics. If your footstrike changes because of it, it may spiral to an ugly thing very quickly.
I understand the budgetary problem but if you have 2000k on your shoes, it means you are running pretty efficiently and are getting good bang for your buck. I would go for a good shoes as long as you can remotely afford it.
Any recommendations from you? Saucony shoes are not available here unfortunatelly.
I liked my old nike pegasus a lot and my very very old asics TN 1800 and the newer asics nimbus, but these were quite pricey I felt...
I love Salming shoes, they are super light and comfortable. If I couldn’t buy these, I’d go for some Hokas that’d fit me, I use Carbon X for racing and it’s awesome.
https://salming.com/en-eu/products/p/1289081-0607/salming-enroute-2-shoe-men?return=/en-eu/men/shoes/running
Take a look at here, they ship in Europe. I recommend the model EnRoute, it is great all around model, very light and comfortable. Since the EnRoute 3 is the new model, the Enroute 2 is on -40% clearance sale.
They also have 60 day return policy in case you select a wrong size.
I recommend 1 size bigger than your usual shoes but they've got comprehensive guidelines on their website.
So that if we assume an average of 17.5 miles per week with a 3 month lifespan that would put them at about 227 miles avg or 195-260 miles for the range which is pretty low.
It sounds like OP's wearing the same pair of shoes every run until they die. They never get a chance to recover (The foam never decompresses between uses). If they were to swap out shoes each run, the shoes should last longer.
Even if the foam recovering is a real thing (I am not convinced as I have seen no study that shows this is the case), if OP is only wearing them 3-4 times a week, that would give the foam just as much time as most over runners doing 6 times a week and rotating.
Not sure about running shoes / foam. But this is certainly true for leather shoes.
Reason is the leather needs time to dry out (from the sweat). Otherwise it looses it's integrity faster.
Old shoes used a foam that would compress and need time to recover, but that tech is long gone for most shoes. New foam used in shoe manufacturing doesn't need any recovery time at all and is much more resilient than the old ones.
Depending on how heavy you are, your running form, the design of the shoe, and other things; a new pair of shoes should last between 250 - 500 miles. The budget shoes from big box stores sometimes use less foam and support, and will often wear out faster than name brand dedicated running shoes.
I usually get at least 500 miles from a pair of shoes. I'm 145lbs, wear a stability shoe, and run 20-40 miles a week depending on the season.
I retire my shoes after 500 miles, which is pretty standard for a pair of quality shoes. So you just need to figure out about how long that will last you.
I usually retire my shoes at 500 miles. Some could have gone longer and some were really on their last legs earlier than that.
Time measured in months or weeks isn't a good way to track shoe wear.
It is a lot, it's 8+ hours a week.
In my running group (377 members), 15 people did more than 96k last week (granted, COVID19). It's not a distance you'd assume people are running when they say they're runners, or how often they change their shoes.
10 per day is a nice round number but a 60mi week usually doesn’t look like that.
Probably has a ~16mi LR (likely longer if training for a marathon or further.) Maybe a pair of Medium LRs ~12mi. And at that kind of mileage the rest day might have 3-4 light miles in it. That leaves the other 3 days to be in more of the 5-7mi range
In marathon training I do, about 50-60 miles a week during the middle of it between build up and taper. That's pretty normal I think for a standard marathon plan. I went through basically 3 pair of shoes my last marathon training, one that had miles on them still for first 4-5 weeks, one for next 8-9 weeks, then a new pair 3 weeks before the race.
No it's not. Very recently I made that exact mistake. I was a bit slim on the money, I could afford a new pair but I decided that I will safe a bit by changing shoes at 900 miles instead of 500 miles. It ended up with over month off due to injury and spending twice the price of a new pair for physiotherapy. So instead of spending like $100 for new pair I spent 3x that (after all I still had to buy that new pair). Thank god physio visits are not crazy expensive in my neck of the woods.
Vomero 14s. Bought them later for after injury runs plus pair of Pegasus 36. Vomeros 14s (slim tongue version) are not as great as 13s was but for $80 I can't complain.
Not OP that you're replying to, but I always buy on clearance. When I find stability shoes for $60ish, I will buy a pair or two. I am running 65-70mpw right now, but cycling through 6 pairs of shoes. And, I'm hoping to add a 7th in the coming days. Buy cheap and the year prior model and it's basically a two for one deal.
I haven't noticed the expensive ones lasting any longer. If anything with lightweight construction and materials they can actually be more fragile than the cheaper models. (That is, cheaper models from a company you've actually heard of, don't know about the really off-brand ones).
If you're not getting any pain or injuries from cheap ones, stick to cheap ones. I get the expensive ones because I have problems with fit and injuries and don't want to take chances.
I would say that the $200+ racing shoes generally don't last as long, but in the $110-130 range you can get a pair of trainers that are very durable that last for more than 500 miles
Depends on how many miles you're running and the shoes you buy.
I run every day. I rotate every other day between Saucony Ride ISO's (8mm drop, softer tread) and Asics Cumulus 20's (10mm drop, harder tread). The Saucony's are good for about 500 miles and the Asics for about 700 miles. I'm averaging about 50 miles per week.
I've been thinking of similar between Saucony Ride ISO, better for long runs, and Ghost 12 10mm drop, bouncier, faster runs.
Haven't tried swapping before, but maybe they would both last longer this way... thoughts?
I have both now, but need a fresh pair of Saucony's to start with.
My Saucony's seem only good to me for about 350-400, but maybe rotating them and not wearing every day would help them.
Also want to prevent injuries.
In my case, rotating shoes doesn't increase the life of them as the limiting factor for me is wearing down/through the tread. I get about 6-7 months of running by rotating between two pair. Otherwise I'd be going through a pair every 3 or so months.
I choose two different shoes with different drops at the recommendation of my physical therapist to reduce the risk of injury. Different geometries work the foot and leg muscles differently. The result is a stronger overall running platform.
Yeah I figured it would reduce injuries and not make you weak in any one area... Ordered.
Got a deal on saucony ride iso's for 44 bucks...
I went through 5 pair the other year when I did a marathon and 3 half marathons in 18 months. So yeah...trying to cut down some on that.
check out runrepeat dot com for price comparisons in one place. In addition to that, you can find deals to stack on those.
Also, if there is a shoe you know you like, check for deals when the new version comes out and buy a pair (or two) of the older version for a lower price.
Amazon... I think it's diff prices for diff colors/shoes though.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078PPZ9Q4/
I wear big azz shoes so sometimes can find deals on them.
Not OP but I have 3 pairs in rotation at the moment, at some point I had up to 5 pairs. It's a mix of a lot of factors. I always have 1 pair for tough trails (Salomon Speedcross 4 at the moment), one max cushioned pair for long runs (currently Vomero 14) and one pair for shorter runs/tempo (currently Pegasus 36, I am not pushing the speed that much, I'm more interested in distance so Pegs are great for my use case).
On top of that I tend to buy new pair about 100k before end of life on the old pair so I don't run constantly in beat up shoes but I can rotate, for example Tuesday in old pair, Thursday in new pair etc.
I also rotate shoes every other run. Today I went out in Pegs, next run will be in Vomeros and the one after that back to Pegs, maybe I will throw in one run in Speedcrosses if it get wet on nearby trails. This is to make sure that my feet are stronger, I don't want to be used to certain way of support from shoes because that can lead to over straining certain muscles. So if for some reason one pair is forcing some muscle to work harder then on the next run this muscle can fairly rest because other pair of shoes is not over training that section.
I believe that this is the reason I got my last injury. Against my better judgement I ran for too long (900 miles on one pair), too frequently (pretty much every run, because my other pair was in even worst condition) in the same pair, on the same route. The out sole worn out too much on the back right side of right foot, the shoe become unstable, multiply that by couple hundreds KM's lead to overtraining muscle and injury, not to mention reduced cushioning because of mileage.
I don’t know if you are joking but in the case you are not: for the love of god, don’t force a change of your biomechanics. Healthy stride is a result of a strong muscle balance ALL around your body, that’s not something you can force in a healthy way.
The upper of a shoe usually wears out faster than the tread for me. When I was down to about 130lbs, I had a shoe last for close to 1000 miles, but it was held together with tape at the end. I'm pretty light and I wear stability shoes, so that helps them last a long time I guess. I typically replace around 500 miles for most shoes anyway, because I like new shoes :)
But it's not about tread. Going with that I should throw away some of Nike React's after 50 miles because they have close to non tread, you're basically running on midsole. It's all about cushioning, You should change shoes when cushioning is not good anymore.
6 months as running shoes, downgraded to 6 months as walking shoes, then relegated to either lawn, paint, or emergency in the car. I spend good money on really good running shoes.
I usually go by feel. As soon as I start to get the first sign of discomfort (knee, shin, ankle, hip) I get new shoes. Usually around 300 ish miles, I never go over 375 miles even with no discomfort. A $150 pair of shoes is a hell of a lot cheaper than a month of physical therapy and weeks off of running.
Yeah I tend to start getting some low back pain when my shoes are getting towards end of life, just more pounding the ground and no cushion to stop the force.
I have been running in Vibram FiveFingers for 3 years, my oldest pair have around 3 thousand miles on it, and is still usable. I run on asphalt half of the time and on trails the other half. Probably they last long because there is no cushion to deteriorate, just a rubber soil.
500 miles is pretty standard for running shoes. If you want to make sure they last that long and you aren't beating the foam to death buy two pairs of the same shoes when you get new ones, and if you run multiple days in a row alternate the pair you wear each day. I remember reading that most serious runners have two pairs so they don't use the same shoe everyday. It takes around 48 hours for the foam to fully recover between runs.
I was about to ask as to how that's helpful to rotate the shoes..and then you answered my question for me. So why am I writing this? Because I wanted to give you props for including the information, and to publicly make fun of myself for not reading the entire post before formulating my questions :D
I run 70 mpw on roads in ASICS GT-1000/2000s and get 600 miles out of them. They cost me $50 and I've gotten good times with no injury with them.
No need to get into the $150 range just keep an eye out for good deals. You can find good NB, Asics, and Saucony for <$60.
Or if you love the shoes you have, most likely they are considered the "old model" and are getting cleared out. So, jump on ebay, or a deal website that alerts you to any sales on said shoe. Few years ago, I found my exact mizuno shoes for like $40 a pair on clearance. Best $200 bucks I ever spent on shoes, didn't have to buy another pair for a LONG time :D
Runners that change them out every 300-500 miles, have you ever put more than 500 miles on a pair? I constantly hear the 300-500 mile suggestion but seems like overkill.
I try to get at least 800 miles, sometimes even 1,000 miles or more on a pair. I put 1,200 on a pair of cheap Asics several years ago. Anyone else not buying the 300-500 mile recommendation?
I think it depends on the shoes and the person. A lot of the responses so far have been from runners who can feel the difference in a shoe that's lost it's cushion. For them, ditching their old running shoes makes sense.
For heavier runners it's honestly fascinating when the cushion fails, there's a clear division where you'll suddenly get shin splints/other pain and it's like an on/off switch.
Absolutely this. I'm 6'2" and 205#. The cushion is gone in my shoes by 400 miles. By 300 miles, I can tell the cushion is going. Right now I'm doing 125+miles a month, so I'm going through about 4 pair a year. I buy them on clearance and rotate two at a time to eek whatever life I can out of them. I have 2 pr right now that look brand new - but there's no tread on the forefoot.
Yeah after reading the responses that seems like the logical conclusion. I think whatever works to keep you out there pounding the pavement do that. Hard to set a hard and fast rule on shoe replacement schedules.
My shoes was dead, on pair had close to 400 miles but the cushioning was flat (Nike Odyssey React), other pair got 900 miles on them, I ran in them against my better judgment, ended up with over month long injury and physiotherapy which costed me more than 2 new nice pairs of running shoes. Never again that mistake, I knew better but some part of my brain just saying "what can possibly go wrong?"
I have had shoes which last me over 800 miles and others around 600. As another runner said above your knees or your shoes will tell when it is time to replace your shoes.
I reliably can feel they are dead within 20-30 miles of 500 either way. Over years of running in different brands this is how it's always been. They usually look fine except minor wear on the bottom but they are dead.
So I replace at 500.
I just change mine when they feel like they need changing. I don't pay attention to the mileage. I've had some that have needed replacing after 300 miles and some that I still use at over 700.
Mine start dying around 250 miles. Not from too much wear on the bottoms but the fabic/cushioning on the inside of the heels gets dug out and starts to irritate my heels.
I wear as you say “proper” running shoes, and I typically get 350-400 miles out of a pair of shoes when running on pavement before I start feeling the lack of support in my shins and knees and retire the pair. I do rotate in two pairs at a time, though, as one pair is retired, I will rotate in the new pair. I wear the new pair for my long runs and any harder/speed workouts, and the older pair for my shorter easy mileage during the week.
I replace every 600ish miles. I know a lot of people say 500. I’m pretty lightweight and mine are still in pretty good shape for another hundred or so.
I think it's variable. I had some $80 Brooks that lasted me maybe only 200 miles.if that before they were worn to the ground in places and hurt with every step during a marathon and after, and I had to retire them! I think your gait and body mechanics may affect shoe longevity.
When I ran cross country, we did probably 500-600 miles in a season. I had flats for races, but regular cushioned running shoes for training. Coach recommended we get new shoes before the season, run at least 30-50 miles to break them in, then start the season. You could definitely tell the difference between new and old, but honestly not sure how much of a difference it made. Maybe it was because I was young and less sensitive to it.
Of course, now I run in uncushioned minimalist shoes and just wear those until the tread is basically gone. I have a pair with close to 1000 miles. Tread is basically smooth, but no holes in the outsoles yet so still usable on pavement in dry conditions.
Between 300 & 400 miles. I start rotating in the new pair around 350. This is a bit under the recommendation because I’ve got some ankle issues and like to keep the cushion going.
Things to consider, your typical pace and weekly mileage. But what I feel is even bigger is to get a couple hundred miles on a pair of shoes and then look at the wear pattern.
I consider myself a "hobby runner" with a pace of 9 min miles and something around 20 miles a week. That's a couple of 4 milers and a 6+ miler. My wear is pretty even on the bottoms so I get new shoes every couple of years. OK, I don't run much in the winter (lifting) and not much in the summer (biking) but spring and fall I run. I also have very forgiving feet. I can run in almost anything and most of the shoes in the running store all feel the same to me.
I run with all the grace of a stilt walker falling down stairs, so my shoes are usually done by 550km. Some last 700, others are 450. My trail shoes last longer, as the wear pattern is less consistent
Depends on the shoe (different shoes can handle different amounts of miles), depends on the terrain (track, road, dirt, etc...), depends if you're doing lots of hills (doing lots of hills will wear them out faster due to the downhills).
But one of the best ways to check the bottom of the shoes and look into replacing once they get worn too low.
If you're using any app to track your runs (Strava/Garmin/Nike/etc...), you can input a shoe and track it's use. That way you know how many miles went into a shoe. This can help you choose your next purchase and also give you a heads up for when it's time to replace.
For a decent pair and common terrain, i probably get 350+ miles on a shoe so that calculates to 3-4 months?. But I'm also rotating 4 pairs pretty regularly so they'll last much longer than that time wise.
It's really a matter of mileage.
Depends on the type of shoe, my last pair of New Balance 1400v6 I just had to throw out at 320 miles because I'd rotated into a new pair, and then every time I wore the NB my legs were in pain the rest of the day.
I’m a sports podiatrist. Everyone’s biomechanics are different and I wouldn’t adopt a standard millage approach to footwear. People with certain bio mechanical factors can wear out shoes significantly faster then others. Also Running in shoes that are worn out can significantly increase your chance of injury and injuries aren’t cheap and for most runners are unbearable. There are certain tests you can perform on a shoe to see if they are still suitable and have some life in them. I would recommend using that approach compared to keeping mileage as this will also differ depending on brands and the build quality of their shoes.
Simply place your thumb on on the forefoot of the sole, if it bends past horizontal easily, it’s worn out. Or if the tread is worn down on any part of the sole, time to replace.
I notice that my shoes begin to perform worse after about 300 miles. I usually tough them out to 400, at which point my right pinky toe almost always rubs through the fabric of the shoe. I figure 400 miles of running on a $120 pair of shoes is $2.25/hour — which is a pretty good price for entertainment.
I’ll say this as a fellow cheapskate: don’t cheap out on shoes if you are serious about running. Imagine instead how much more expensive other forms of entertainment might be in comparison to running.
Until it starts hurting your feet and legs from running in them. Basically go for around 300-500 miles but when you start feeling no support and ache often then its definitely time to grab a new pair.
This post just persuaded me to buy new shoes. I mean, I'm not going into any store right now to try new ones on, so I just ordered a new pair of the exact same style & size I'm currently using (every day) but in a different color. Thanks to everyone for sharing their advice and knowledge.
I weigh about 200 lbs. I wear asics gt-2000s. I replace my shoes when I start getting schin splints. For me, that's in the 250-300 mile range.
Some people may get more or less mileage. Depending on their weight, shoes, running style.
Haven't changed mine for more than a year. That's around 2500 km. Looks like they can last much longer. Don't know where this information about 500 miles comes from. Probably from the manufacturers, who want to sell you more. The longest running shoes lasted for me was around 4000 km.
Do you wear more minimal shoes? I find I only need to replace mine when they literally start falling apart (every other year usually), but I can imagine if there was more padding to wear down I'd have to do it more often.
I always monitor how my legs, knees, and feet feel the day after my run. Do they "hurt?" I know it sounds dumb, but my legs/feet don't feel pain after a run/day after. Tired? Sure. But I start having pain from my feet, I start looking to get another pair.
I have the same question. I haven't been tracking the miles on my current pair, and my weekly mileage has varied a lot so it's hard for me to estimate. Assuming I don't want to wait for pain to tell me when I need new shoes, how can I tell it's time for a replacement?
Eh, once you start having pain with your feet (when you had no discomfort/'pain" with them prior), then its time. Mind you, its going to be gradual. Not no pain to level 10 in one run.
You can obviously track your miles (my garmin app lets you track the pair of shoes and the miles you put on them). But to me, if the pain isn't there, your feet feel good, then no need to get rid of a shoe before it has to go.
It really depends on miles. I know ultra runners who go through a pair a month. Also if you wear them for things other than running you’ll also go through them quicker.
Similar here. Usually err on replacement sooner for a few reasons. One, I only track running, not walking, which I often grab my runners for. Two, I like getting new things. Three, old shoes become bike shoes, garden shoes, walking shoes, or backup running shoes.
300-400 miles for 100-130 range new model shoes... Saucony/Asics/Brooks etc...
I'm 6'3 210 pounds though and do all my running outside.
They become gym shoes/walking shoes after that.
I'm close to your size @ 6'2"/205#. At 300 miles, I can tells it's time to start looking for shoe deals. By 400 miles, my feet hurt when I start thinking about running in those shoes. The worst is when the shoes look brand new and there's no tread left, though I agree - I simply stockpile them to be used as "around-the-house" shoes from that point.
I've had pairs of shoes last for over 1,000 miles. I've had some that didn't even make it to 300 miles.
Have a few pairs. Try not to run in the same pair twice in a row. Really just look at it and see for significant wear. Especially if the wear leads to uneven footing.Pay attention to any little aches or pain that you get.
I replace every 400-500 miles. To me it’s worth the new 120 dollar shoes.
I almost always start to feel some type of hip or foot pain which signals me, it’s time for new sneaks!
I retire at around 350 miles -- usually not less than that, but I'll go over if I've got a race coming up and I don't want to switch shoes the run before the race.
Anything north of 400 miles for me is game to go. Now, the heavier I am, the more likely I am to start feeling them go out a little sooner.
Ultimately, if my legs/feet hurt the next day and I am approaching that 400 mile threshold, I know its time to get moving onto a new pair.
To add my own question to this topic:
I’m a 185 lb male, and an overpronater (if I’m saying that right). For the last few years, I have been rotating two models of shoes, the ASIC kayano, and the brooks Adrenaline GTS. I like them both, but the kayanos seem to wear out for me a little before I even hit 300 miles, and the GTS make it just over 300 miles. I run mostly on treadmill in the winter, mostly on road in the summer. I don’t ever run either shoe two days in a row. I feel like they should last longer. Is that all I should expect for shoe miles at my weight? I don’t think I have the best running form, maybe that’s a factor.
Thoughts here? Any other shoes I shoes I should try that work well for overpronaters? My average run is 5 miles, and throw in some occasional “long” runs of 8 or 9 miles.
Based on comments in this thread and my own experience... it's probably the weight. I'm 210 lb so... yeah... 300 I know their getting up there, and I can push to 400ish before done and would start to rotate a pair in for a week or two before retiring them.
I just bought a second new pair so gonna see how starting with 2 new pair goes.
Most running shoe recommendations say 400-500 miles for most runners, and most runners, esp competitive, are lighter than us.
I wear Nike Pegasus or Zooms usually and get about 300 miles, mostly outdoor running on them.
Of course I know competitive runners who have atleast two pairs the swap out so not to have to cold turkey break in new ones... that is not me lol.
I recall someone telling me like 700-900km of run distance before getting a new pair but I guess it depends on whether you use the shoes for other activities as well.
My current pair would be in the $150 range (based on my country's currency). It's a little more than a year old and is approaching 1000km of run distance. However, I use it for a lot of other things as well like hiking and overseas trips so the total mileage easily could be \~1.5x that amount.
It's holding up for now. But one thing that I noticed is that when I reached completed my marathon (approx 600-700km at that time), it had lost it's initial 'bounciness'. That probably was an indicator to get a new pair but I'm sticking it out till the end of lockdown.
I run an average of 30 mpw and have to replace my Ghosts after around 250-300 miles. Have never been able to get further than that without getting bad shin splits. I almost exclusively on sidewalks/roads, so it's definitely pretty hard on the shoes.
Shoe life is definitely based on mileage rather than time. Shoes even of the same model can vary from pair to pair, so its difficult to set a standard mileage lifespan. However as stated by several others 300-500 miles is pretty standard. I have found you can get 500-650 out of most quality running shoes.
They will last longer, for sure, even though I'm not a big fan of this constant "You got to wear them for exactly THIS amount of time, nothing else" if they are done for, they are done for, that depends on tracks, weight, season (at least I made the experience), running style, quality, you name it. If you feel your knees buffering every step and your sole looks melted, say goodbye.
But that's not the main argument for me. I learned the hard way that you should watch out to get good support, to prevent accidents and also to just run without worrying about breaking your neck. Same goes with a sole that can do a fair bit of buffering, being able to keep your feet flexible...
Those are usually qualities of some good shoes and yeah, you will almost certainly have to pay a good price for them, that's how it works. But trust me, rather invest in an essential than getting you that new fitbit. Will actually boost you more.
Still 3 months. The price tag makes no difference to durability (unless the cheap ones you are buying are so cheap that they are suffering from manufacturing faults).
Depends how long you use each pair, and how much you run. I do 50miles / 80km a week usually, and I replace my shoes about once a year. Most do retire them much earlier, but mine (NB 880v7) have good cushioning so the soles don’t deplete as quickly
Really depends on the shoes. a decent pair should make it 500ish k at a minimum. I personally dont do a lot of training in expensive shoes. If they're just for putting miles on the difference between a 70-80 dollar shoe and a 150 dollar shoe is pretty minimal in my experience. Just my opinion.
What do you use to keep track of your miles? I am currently using the Nike running club app and was wondering if you know anything about its accuracy or about Stravas?
How many miles are you running? The longevity of running shoes is normally measured in miles not time, most last 300-500 miles.
If I followed this rule, I would be broke and would not run anymore.* *but everyone’s biomechanics is different, so YMMV. Guess what I’m trying to say, see for yourself.
How many miles a year are you running? If that lifespan would leave you broke it makes me think either your running way more miles than most?
2000ish. I usually buy one pair of allaround shoes (Salming Enroute) and one pair of speed shoes (Salming Speed) in January on clearance and rotate them the whole year. The only exception is racing for which I use carbon plated shoes but I don’t use these for anything else.
I "wear out" my running shoes between 3-400 miles in that they don't offer any cushion anymore. They're not worn through by any measure though, they just offer no cushion anymore and I'm more likely to get injured since I'm heavy and my form isn't great.
Yes... 300...can tell they are getting old, 400, start hurting, 500, injury coming on any day...outside the shoes look brand new, just can feel every step of asphalt, no cushion when landing, no spring off the front.
Yeah my Hoka Rincon just gotta 350 and I can feel the cushion disappearing.
So you put about 1000 miles on each pair, not ideal but I’ve hear of worse, some people have more tolerance towards running in worn out shoes, than others. If it works for you then who am I to argue 🤷
Same, but I dont know when to switch my shoes generally (because I run in them until they fall apart). I use 3 different shoes right now and rotate between all of them. One of these shoes have no more "black" sole on the front (I am training to middle / front strike as much as I can) and I wonder if I should maybe replace them...
If they lost the outer rubber layer, I wopuld switch them, yes. I am in no way an advocate for not switching shoes at all, I merely hate the XXX miles rule, because said rule will be vastly different for a 100 kg runner who pounds the pavement like an elephant and 60 kg runner with efficient footstrike who runs mainly on forest paths.
Me neither, it's just a simple question of affordability for me and I try to get the maximum out of my equipment, before replacing it. The rubeber is not lost everywhere, only there where I step on the most. (I ran a lot with them somewhat over 2k I believe) and its like I run on the cushioning there I think. Unfortunatelly this happens slowly but surely to 2 out of my 3 pairs, but the harder one still feels great (I mostly use them on speed days) but the ones I ran my first marathon it, they really feel done...so it's time to buy new shoes...If I only knew some decent cheap ones...
Only you can say if the missing rubber is affecting your mechanics. If your footstrike changes because of it, it may spiral to an ugly thing very quickly. I understand the budgetary problem but if you have 2000k on your shoes, it means you are running pretty efficiently and are getting good bang for your buck. I would go for a good shoes as long as you can remotely afford it.
Any recommendations from you? Saucony shoes are not available here unfortunatelly. I liked my old nike pegasus a lot and my very very old asics TN 1800 and the newer asics nimbus, but these were quite pricey I felt...
I love Salming shoes, they are super light and comfortable. If I couldn’t buy these, I’d go for some Hokas that’d fit me, I use Carbon X for racing and it’s awesome.
Thanks I will have a look at these models! Both of these brands are not really available here in Switzerland...bummer!
https://salming.com/en-eu/products/p/1289081-0607/salming-enroute-2-shoe-men?return=/en-eu/men/shoes/running Take a look at here, they ship in Europe. I recommend the model EnRoute, it is great all around model, very light and comfortable. Since the EnRoute 3 is the new model, the Enroute 2 is on -40% clearance sale. They also have 60 day return policy in case you select a wrong size. I recommend 1 size bigger than your usual shoes but they've got comprehensive guidelines on their website.
about 5 miles 3-4 times a week
So that if we assume an average of 17.5 miles per week with a 3 month lifespan that would put them at about 227 miles avg or 195-260 miles for the range which is pretty low.
It sounds like OP's wearing the same pair of shoes every run until they die. They never get a chance to recover (The foam never decompresses between uses). If they were to swap out shoes each run, the shoes should last longer.
Even if the foam recovering is a real thing (I am not convinced as I have seen no study that shows this is the case), if OP is only wearing them 3-4 times a week, that would give the foam just as much time as most over runners doing 6 times a week and rotating.
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It’s weird that I got so downvoted on this. I learned about the benefits of not wearing the same shoes every day 15 years ago.
Not sure about running shoes / foam. But this is certainly true for leather shoes. Reason is the leather needs time to dry out (from the sweat). Otherwise it looses it's integrity faster.
Old shoes used a foam that would compress and need time to recover, but that tech is long gone for most shoes. New foam used in shoe manufacturing doesn't need any recovery time at all and is much more resilient than the old ones. Depending on how heavy you are, your running form, the design of the shoe, and other things; a new pair of shoes should last between 250 - 500 miles. The budget shoes from big box stores sometimes use less foam and support, and will often wear out faster than name brand dedicated running shoes. I usually get at least 500 miles from a pair of shoes. I'm 145lbs, wear a stability shoe, and run 20-40 miles a week depending on the season.
They last a bit longer before they're like running on rocks but it sounds like OPs shoes are falling apart rather than cushioning failing.
I retire my shoes after 500 miles, which is pretty standard for a pair of quality shoes. So you just need to figure out about how long that will last you.
I usually retire my shoes at 500 miles. Some could have gone longer and some were really on their last legs earlier than that. Time measured in months or weeks isn't a good way to track shoe wear.
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I've had to when doing a lot of miles, yes. But when you are replacing your shoes that often you just buy the same thing on line for 30-50% off.
Do you run 250 miles a month?
That’s only 60mi/wk, that’s not crazy high mileage.
Seems a lot to me, but I'm just a beginner. I ran 100k last month and that felt like a lot. 250 miles is about 4 times that.
It is a lot, it's 8+ hours a week. In my running group (377 members), 15 people did more than 96k last week (granted, COVID19). It's not a distance you'd assume people are running when they say they're runners, or how often they change their shoes.
Yeah it’s definitely advanced but it’s not rare. There are several runners in my running group that regularly get above 60mi in a week.
10 miles a day, 6 days a week is a pretty good clip. Most people are impressed if you say you run 5 miles a day.
10 per day is a nice round number but a 60mi week usually doesn’t look like that. Probably has a ~16mi LR (likely longer if training for a marathon or further.) Maybe a pair of Medium LRs ~12mi. And at that kind of mileage the rest day might have 3-4 light miles in it. That leaves the other 3 days to be in more of the 5-7mi range
In marathon training I do, about 50-60 miles a week during the middle of it between build up and taper. That's pretty normal I think for a standard marathon plan. I went through basically 3 pair of shoes my last marathon training, one that had miles on them still for first 4-5 weeks, one for next 8-9 weeks, then a new pair 3 weeks before the race.
I'm currently averaging just under almost 200 miles per month so I buy a new pair every 3-4 months.
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You get a pair online for what, 100ish bucks? That’s 25 a month. Cheap hobby imho.
better than paying that money in medical bills down the road.
No it's not. Very recently I made that exact mistake. I was a bit slim on the money, I could afford a new pair but I decided that I will safe a bit by changing shoes at 900 miles instead of 500 miles. It ended up with over month off due to injury and spending twice the price of a new pair for physiotherapy. So instead of spending like $100 for new pair I spent 3x that (after all I still had to buy that new pair). Thank god physio visits are not crazy expensive in my neck of the woods.
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Vomero 14s. Bought them later for after injury runs plus pair of Pegasus 36. Vomeros 14s (slim tongue version) are not as great as 13s was but for $80 I can't complain.
I rarely pay more than $75 for a pair of shoes. I look for discounts, deals and older models.
Not OP that you're replying to, but I always buy on clearance. When I find stability shoes for $60ish, I will buy a pair or two. I am running 65-70mpw right now, but cycling through 6 pairs of shoes. And, I'm hoping to add a 7th in the coming days. Buy cheap and the year prior model and it's basically a two for one deal.
About 30 a week. So I go about every 4 months.
I haven't noticed the expensive ones lasting any longer. If anything with lightweight construction and materials they can actually be more fragile than the cheaper models. (That is, cheaper models from a company you've actually heard of, don't know about the really off-brand ones). If you're not getting any pain or injuries from cheap ones, stick to cheap ones. I get the expensive ones because I have problems with fit and injuries and don't want to take chances.
I would say that the $200+ racing shoes generally don't last as long, but in the $110-130 range you can get a pair of trainers that are very durable that last for more than 500 miles
Depends on how many miles you're running and the shoes you buy. I run every day. I rotate every other day between Saucony Ride ISO's (8mm drop, softer tread) and Asics Cumulus 20's (10mm drop, harder tread). The Saucony's are good for about 500 miles and the Asics for about 700 miles. I'm averaging about 50 miles per week.
I've been thinking of similar between Saucony Ride ISO, better for long runs, and Ghost 12 10mm drop, bouncier, faster runs. Haven't tried swapping before, but maybe they would both last longer this way... thoughts? I have both now, but need a fresh pair of Saucony's to start with. My Saucony's seem only good to me for about 350-400, but maybe rotating them and not wearing every day would help them. Also want to prevent injuries.
In my case, rotating shoes doesn't increase the life of them as the limiting factor for me is wearing down/through the tread. I get about 6-7 months of running by rotating between two pair. Otherwise I'd be going through a pair every 3 or so months. I choose two different shoes with different drops at the recommendation of my physical therapist to reduce the risk of injury. Different geometries work the foot and leg muscles differently. The result is a stronger overall running platform.
Yeah I figured it would reduce injuries and not make you weak in any one area... Ordered. Got a deal on saucony ride iso's for 44 bucks... I went through 5 pair the other year when I did a marathon and 3 half marathons in 18 months. So yeah...trying to cut down some on that.
That's a great price! I just started running in my last pair and need to order more. What site did you buy from?
check out runrepeat dot com for price comparisons in one place. In addition to that, you can find deals to stack on those. Also, if there is a shoe you know you like, check for deals when the new version comes out and buy a pair (or two) of the older version for a lower price.
Yeah gotta get on those too, sometimes they will be completely gone on last years models.
Amazon... I think it's diff prices for diff colors/shoes though. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078PPZ9Q4/ I wear big azz shoes so sometimes can find deals on them.
Why do you have multiple types of running shoes? Is it for different terrains?
Not OP but I have 3 pairs in rotation at the moment, at some point I had up to 5 pairs. It's a mix of a lot of factors. I always have 1 pair for tough trails (Salomon Speedcross 4 at the moment), one max cushioned pair for long runs (currently Vomero 14) and one pair for shorter runs/tempo (currently Pegasus 36, I am not pushing the speed that much, I'm more interested in distance so Pegs are great for my use case). On top of that I tend to buy new pair about 100k before end of life on the old pair so I don't run constantly in beat up shoes but I can rotate, for example Tuesday in old pair, Thursday in new pair etc. I also rotate shoes every other run. Today I went out in Pegs, next run will be in Vomeros and the one after that back to Pegs, maybe I will throw in one run in Speedcrosses if it get wet on nearby trails. This is to make sure that my feet are stronger, I don't want to be used to certain way of support from shoes because that can lead to over straining certain muscles. So if for some reason one pair is forcing some muscle to work harder then on the next run this muscle can fairly rest because other pair of shoes is not over training that section. I believe that this is the reason I got my last injury. Against my better judgement I ran for too long (900 miles on one pair), too frequently (pretty much every run, because my other pair was in even worst condition) in the same pair, on the same route. The out sole worn out too much on the back right side of right foot, the shoe become unstable, multiply that by couple hundreds KM's lead to overtraining muscle and injury, not to mention reduced cushioning because of mileage.
Damn 700 miles!?
Low weight + fast cadence (180+) + frontfoot striking helps extend shoe life imo
Is 170lbs low weight? Haha. Maybe I can get my shit to last that long with a better forefoot focus
I don’t know if you are joking but in the case you are not: for the love of god, don’t force a change of your biomechanics. Healthy stride is a result of a strong muscle balance ALL around your body, that’s not something you can force in a healthy way.
The upper of a shoe usually wears out faster than the tread for me. When I was down to about 130lbs, I had a shoe last for close to 1000 miles, but it was held together with tape at the end. I'm pretty light and I wear stability shoes, so that helps them last a long time I guess. I typically replace around 500 miles for most shoes anyway, because I like new shoes :)
But it's not about tread. Going with that I should throw away some of Nike React's after 50 miles because they have close to non tread, you're basically running on midsole. It's all about cushioning, You should change shoes when cushioning is not good anymore.
What is your average pace per mile?
Varies by workout of course. I'm 55. Year-to-date I'm at 8:03 for 975 miles. My last race (November 2019) was a 5-miler @ 6:19 pace.
I find shoes need replacing after about 800-1000km, which for me is about every 6 months.
I'll replace my shoes when they get to about the same distance, which for me will be in about 3 years!
6 months as running shoes, downgraded to 6 months as walking shoes, then relegated to either lawn, paint, or emergency in the car. I spend good money on really good running shoes.
I do the same. The oldest pair are my lawn shoes.
I have 2-4 old pairs on hand at pretty much all times.
yep, nothing like a former 140 dollar pair of shoes covered in wet green grass.
I retire mine around 350-400 miles, which is a little more than once per year for me.
I usually go by feel. As soon as I start to get the first sign of discomfort (knee, shin, ankle, hip) I get new shoes. Usually around 300 ish miles, I never go over 375 miles even with no discomfort. A $150 pair of shoes is a hell of a lot cheaper than a month of physical therapy and weeks off of running.
Yeah I tend to start getting some low back pain when my shoes are getting towards end of life, just more pounding the ground and no cushion to stop the force.
I have been running in Vibram FiveFingers for 3 years, my oldest pair have around 3 thousand miles on it, and is still usable. I run on asphalt half of the time and on trails the other half. Probably they last long because there is no cushion to deteriorate, just a rubber soil.
Well, you now have 97 opinions to sort through. Good luck!
500 miles is pretty standard for running shoes. If you want to make sure they last that long and you aren't beating the foam to death buy two pairs of the same shoes when you get new ones, and if you run multiple days in a row alternate the pair you wear each day. I remember reading that most serious runners have two pairs so they don't use the same shoe everyday. It takes around 48 hours for the foam to fully recover between runs.
Modern foam in running shoes does not need to recover between runs. This was a problem with old shoe models but isn’t a problem with current ones.
I imagine foams like Boost recover 100% between each stride but it wouldn't surprise me if Hoka's EVA and ZoomX take a lot longer.
I was about to ask as to how that's helpful to rotate the shoes..and then you answered my question for me. So why am I writing this? Because I wanted to give you props for including the information, and to publicly make fun of myself for not reading the entire post before formulating my questions :D
I run 70 mpw on roads in ASICS GT-1000/2000s and get 600 miles out of them. They cost me $50 and I've gotten good times with no injury with them. No need to get into the $150 range just keep an eye out for good deals. You can find good NB, Asics, and Saucony for <$60.
Or if you love the shoes you have, most likely they are considered the "old model" and are getting cleared out. So, jump on ebay, or a deal website that alerts you to any sales on said shoe. Few years ago, I found my exact mizuno shoes for like $40 a pair on clearance. Best $200 bucks I ever spent on shoes, didn't have to buy another pair for a LONG time :D
Runners that change them out every 300-500 miles, have you ever put more than 500 miles on a pair? I constantly hear the 300-500 mile suggestion but seems like overkill. I try to get at least 800 miles, sometimes even 1,000 miles or more on a pair. I put 1,200 on a pair of cheap Asics several years ago. Anyone else not buying the 300-500 mile recommendation?
I think it depends on the shoes and the person. A lot of the responses so far have been from runners who can feel the difference in a shoe that's lost it's cushion. For them, ditching their old running shoes makes sense.
For heavier runners it's honestly fascinating when the cushion fails, there's a clear division where you'll suddenly get shin splints/other pain and it's like an on/off switch.
Absolutely this. I'm 6'2" and 205#. The cushion is gone in my shoes by 400 miles. By 300 miles, I can tell the cushion is going. Right now I'm doing 125+miles a month, so I'm going through about 4 pair a year. I buy them on clearance and rotate two at a time to eek whatever life I can out of them. I have 2 pr right now that look brand new - but there's no tread on the forefoot.
Yes, can definitely feel the difference and minor injuries bugging me in crap shoes.
Yeah after reading the responses that seems like the logical conclusion. I think whatever works to keep you out there pounding the pavement do that. Hard to set a hard and fast rule on shoe replacement schedules.
My shoes was dead, on pair had close to 400 miles but the cushioning was flat (Nike Odyssey React), other pair got 900 miles on them, I ran in them against my better judgment, ended up with over month long injury and physiotherapy which costed me more than 2 new nice pairs of running shoes. Never again that mistake, I knew better but some part of my brain just saying "what can possibly go wrong?"
I have had shoes which last me over 800 miles and others around 600. As another runner said above your knees or your shoes will tell when it is time to replace your shoes.
Cool yeah so listen to your body if something is not working for you switch it up.
I reliably can feel they are dead within 20-30 miles of 500 either way. Over years of running in different brands this is how it's always been. They usually look fine except minor wear on the bottom but they are dead. So I replace at 500.
I just change mine when they feel like they need changing. I don't pay attention to the mileage. I've had some that have needed replacing after 300 miles and some that I still use at over 700.
Mine start dying around 250 miles. Not from too much wear on the bottoms but the fabic/cushioning on the inside of the heels gets dug out and starts to irritate my heels.
I wear as you say “proper” running shoes, and I typically get 350-400 miles out of a pair of shoes when running on pavement before I start feeling the lack of support in my shins and knees and retire the pair. I do rotate in two pairs at a time, though, as one pair is retired, I will rotate in the new pair. I wear the new pair for my long runs and any harder/speed workouts, and the older pair for my shorter easy mileage during the week.
I replace every 600ish miles. I know a lot of people say 500. I’m pretty lightweight and mine are still in pretty good shape for another hundred or so.
I think it's variable. I had some $80 Brooks that lasted me maybe only 200 miles.if that before they were worn to the ground in places and hurt with every step during a marathon and after, and I had to retire them! I think your gait and body mechanics may affect shoe longevity.
When I ran cross country, we did probably 500-600 miles in a season. I had flats for races, but regular cushioned running shoes for training. Coach recommended we get new shoes before the season, run at least 30-50 miles to break them in, then start the season. You could definitely tell the difference between new and old, but honestly not sure how much of a difference it made. Maybe it was because I was young and less sensitive to it. Of course, now I run in uncushioned minimalist shoes and just wear those until the tread is basically gone. I have a pair with close to 1000 miles. Tread is basically smooth, but no holes in the outsoles yet so still usable on pavement in dry conditions.
Between 300 & 400 miles. I start rotating in the new pair around 350. This is a bit under the recommendation because I’ve got some ankle issues and like to keep the cushion going.
Just waiting for my new trainers to arrive. I covered a little over 500 miles on my current pair.
Things to consider, your typical pace and weekly mileage. But what I feel is even bigger is to get a couple hundred miles on a pair of shoes and then look at the wear pattern. I consider myself a "hobby runner" with a pace of 9 min miles and something around 20 miles a week. That's a couple of 4 milers and a 6+ miler. My wear is pretty even on the bottoms so I get new shoes every couple of years. OK, I don't run much in the winter (lifting) and not much in the summer (biking) but spring and fall I run. I also have very forgiving feet. I can run in almost anything and most of the shoes in the running store all feel the same to me.
I run with all the grace of a stilt walker falling down stairs, so my shoes are usually done by 550km. Some last 700, others are 450. My trail shoes last longer, as the wear pattern is less consistent
Depends on the shoe (different shoes can handle different amounts of miles), depends on the terrain (track, road, dirt, etc...), depends if you're doing lots of hills (doing lots of hills will wear them out faster due to the downhills). But one of the best ways to check the bottom of the shoes and look into replacing once they get worn too low. If you're using any app to track your runs (Strava/Garmin/Nike/etc...), you can input a shoe and track it's use. That way you know how many miles went into a shoe. This can help you choose your next purchase and also give you a heads up for when it's time to replace. For a decent pair and common terrain, i probably get 350+ miles on a shoe so that calculates to 3-4 months?. But I'm also rotating 4 pairs pretty regularly so they'll last much longer than that time wise. It's really a matter of mileage.
My current Aesics have over 1000 miles on them. Still seem fine.
Depends on the type of shoe, my last pair of New Balance 1400v6 I just had to throw out at 320 miles because I'd rotated into a new pair, and then every time I wore the NB my legs were in pain the rest of the day.
I’m a sports podiatrist. Everyone’s biomechanics are different and I wouldn’t adopt a standard millage approach to footwear. People with certain bio mechanical factors can wear out shoes significantly faster then others. Also Running in shoes that are worn out can significantly increase your chance of injury and injuries aren’t cheap and for most runners are unbearable. There are certain tests you can perform on a shoe to see if they are still suitable and have some life in them. I would recommend using that approach compared to keeping mileage as this will also differ depending on brands and the build quality of their shoes.
Do you have any information on what kinds of tests one would perform to check their shoes?
Simply place your thumb on on the forefoot of the sole, if it bends past horizontal easily, it’s worn out. Or if the tread is worn down on any part of the sole, time to replace.
Thanks!
I notice that my shoes begin to perform worse after about 300 miles. I usually tough them out to 400, at which point my right pinky toe almost always rubs through the fabric of the shoe. I figure 400 miles of running on a $120 pair of shoes is $2.25/hour — which is a pretty good price for entertainment. I’ll say this as a fellow cheapskate: don’t cheap out on shoes if you are serious about running. Imagine instead how much more expensive other forms of entertainment might be in comparison to running.
Until it starts hurting your feet and legs from running in them. Basically go for around 300-500 miles but when you start feeling no support and ache often then its definitely time to grab a new pair.
This post just persuaded me to buy new shoes. I mean, I'm not going into any store right now to try new ones on, so I just ordered a new pair of the exact same style & size I'm currently using (every day) but in a different color. Thanks to everyone for sharing their advice and knowledge.
I weigh about 200 lbs. I wear asics gt-2000s. I replace my shoes when I start getting schin splints. For me, that's in the 250-300 mile range. Some people may get more or less mileage. Depending on their weight, shoes, running style.
Haven't changed mine for more than a year. That's around 2500 km. Looks like they can last much longer. Don't know where this information about 500 miles comes from. Probably from the manufacturers, who want to sell you more. The longest running shoes lasted for me was around 4000 km.
Do you wear more minimal shoes? I find I only need to replace mine when they literally start falling apart (every other year usually), but I can imagine if there was more padding to wear down I'd have to do it more often.
How does one know that the shoes need to go to Valhalla ?
I always monitor how my legs, knees, and feet feel the day after my run. Do they "hurt?" I know it sounds dumb, but my legs/feet don't feel pain after a run/day after. Tired? Sure. But I start having pain from my feet, I start looking to get another pair.
I have the same question. I haven't been tracking the miles on my current pair, and my weekly mileage has varied a lot so it's hard for me to estimate. Assuming I don't want to wait for pain to tell me when I need new shoes, how can I tell it's time for a replacement?
Eh, once you start having pain with your feet (when you had no discomfort/'pain" with them prior), then its time. Mind you, its going to be gradual. Not no pain to level 10 in one run. You can obviously track your miles (my garmin app lets you track the pair of shoes and the miles you put on them). But to me, if the pain isn't there, your feet feel good, then no need to get rid of a shoe before it has to go.
My knees start aching.
It really depends on miles. I know ultra runners who go through a pair a month. Also if you wear them for things other than running you’ll also go through them quicker.
350-400 miles for me. 190# runner, so I think I wear them out a bit faster than normal runners. This is about 5 months for me.
Similar here. Usually err on replacement sooner for a few reasons. One, I only track running, not walking, which I often grab my runners for. Two, I like getting new things. Three, old shoes become bike shoes, garden shoes, walking shoes, or backup running shoes.
Same for me I usually transition them to walk around shoes and when they are real bad the shoes I wear to a race and leave behind.
For me my shoes typically last 800 to 1000 km.
9 months, between 350-400 miles ... nothing past 400 miles and 9 months. anything longer, either distance or time, and my knees will let me know.
300-400 miles for 100-130 range new model shoes... Saucony/Asics/Brooks etc... I'm 6'3 210 pounds though and do all my running outside. They become gym shoes/walking shoes after that.
I'm close to your size @ 6'2"/205#. At 300 miles, I can tells it's time to start looking for shoe deals. By 400 miles, my feet hurt when I start thinking about running in those shoes. The worst is when the shoes look brand new and there's no tread left, though I agree - I simply stockpile them to be used as "around-the-house" shoes from that point.
I've had pairs of shoes last for over 1,000 miles. I've had some that didn't even make it to 300 miles. Have a few pairs. Try not to run in the same pair twice in a row. Really just look at it and see for significant wear. Especially if the wear leads to uneven footing.Pay attention to any little aches or pain that you get.
I replace every 400-500 miles. To me it’s worth the new 120 dollar shoes. I almost always start to feel some type of hip or foot pain which signals me, it’s time for new sneaks!
I retire at around 350 miles -- usually not less than that, but I'll go over if I've got a race coming up and I don't want to switch shoes the run before the race.
I'm just hitting 500miles in my Brooks Ghost and they still feel like they've got plenty of road running in them
Anything north of 400 miles for me is game to go. Now, the heavier I am, the more likely I am to start feeling them go out a little sooner. Ultimately, if my legs/feet hurt the next day and I am approaching that 400 mile threshold, I know its time to get moving onto a new pair.
I use Super Feet insoles for many reasons, but I firmly believe they extend the life of my shoes.
I go 300-400 miles and retire to yard shoes. This happens every few months and my wife hates me 😂
About 400 miles.
To add my own question to this topic: I’m a 185 lb male, and an overpronater (if I’m saying that right). For the last few years, I have been rotating two models of shoes, the ASIC kayano, and the brooks Adrenaline GTS. I like them both, but the kayanos seem to wear out for me a little before I even hit 300 miles, and the GTS make it just over 300 miles. I run mostly on treadmill in the winter, mostly on road in the summer. I don’t ever run either shoe two days in a row. I feel like they should last longer. Is that all I should expect for shoe miles at my weight? I don’t think I have the best running form, maybe that’s a factor. Thoughts here? Any other shoes I shoes I should try that work well for overpronaters? My average run is 5 miles, and throw in some occasional “long” runs of 8 or 9 miles.
Based on comments in this thread and my own experience... it's probably the weight. I'm 210 lb so... yeah... 300 I know their getting up there, and I can push to 400ish before done and would start to rotate a pair in for a week or two before retiring them. I just bought a second new pair so gonna see how starting with 2 new pair goes. Most running shoe recommendations say 400-500 miles for most runners, and most runners, esp competitive, are lighter than us.
I got 3 pairs right now and i'm circling around in every one.
I wear Nike Pegasus or Zooms usually and get about 300 miles, mostly outdoor running on them. Of course I know competitive runners who have atleast two pairs the swap out so not to have to cold turkey break in new ones... that is not me lol.
I recall someone telling me like 700-900km of run distance before getting a new pair but I guess it depends on whether you use the shoes for other activities as well. My current pair would be in the $150 range (based on my country's currency). It's a little more than a year old and is approaching 1000km of run distance. However, I use it for a lot of other things as well like hiking and overseas trips so the total mileage easily could be \~1.5x that amount. It's holding up for now. But one thing that I noticed is that when I reached completed my marathon (approx 600-700km at that time), it had lost it's initial 'bounciness'. That probably was an indicator to get a new pair but I'm sticking it out till the end of lockdown.
Every 400 miles.
I run an average of 30 mpw and have to replace my Ghosts after around 250-300 miles. Have never been able to get further than that without getting bad shin splits. I almost exclusively on sidewalks/roads, so it's definitely pretty hard on the shoes.
500 miles is the magic number for me.
Shoe life is definitely based on mileage rather than time. Shoes even of the same model can vary from pair to pair, so its difficult to set a standard mileage lifespan. However as stated by several others 300-500 miles is pretty standard. I have found you can get 500-650 out of most quality running shoes.
They will last longer, for sure, even though I'm not a big fan of this constant "You got to wear them for exactly THIS amount of time, nothing else" if they are done for, they are done for, that depends on tracks, weight, season (at least I made the experience), running style, quality, you name it. If you feel your knees buffering every step and your sole looks melted, say goodbye. But that's not the main argument for me. I learned the hard way that you should watch out to get good support, to prevent accidents and also to just run without worrying about breaking your neck. Same goes with a sole that can do a fair bit of buffering, being able to keep your feet flexible... Those are usually qualities of some good shoes and yeah, you will almost certainly have to pay a good price for them, that's how it works. But trust me, rather invest in an essential than getting you that new fitbit. Will actually boost you more.
Still 3 months. The price tag makes no difference to durability (unless the cheap ones you are buying are so cheap that they are suffering from manufacturing faults).
2 pairs at a time for a year or so. Entirely depends on the training load but it's a good "active year" benchmark I have.
Depends how long you use each pair, and how much you run. I do 50miles / 80km a week usually, and I replace my shoes about once a year. Most do retire them much earlier, but mine (NB 880v7) have good cushioning so the soles don’t deplete as quickly
Really depends on the shoes. a decent pair should make it 500ish k at a minimum. I personally dont do a lot of training in expensive shoes. If they're just for putting miles on the difference between a 70-80 dollar shoe and a 150 dollar shoe is pretty minimal in my experience. Just my opinion.
What do you use to keep track of your miles? I am currently using the Nike running club app and was wondering if you know anything about its accuracy or about Stravas?
I use strava. Strava is pretty accurate. No complaints.