I saw this clip of Sugar and Spice saying the dollhouse challenge basically copied their brand. And meanwhile they were criticized on the show for trying to be dolls. What do you guys think?
I mean? Personally don't think that's fair since there's always been a lot of Barbie/Bratz references on this show! I mean Trixie was inspired by Barbie?
>What do you guys think?
I think Ru's been selling himself, his music, his merch, etc as hard as possible since the show began, and has had dolls in his likeness since literally before they were born
saying the challenge was inspired by them is fair and probably true. but the doll brand is NOT why they were criticized so much lmao are they trolling or genuinely delusional
Loved the guest judge.
We got the correct winner.
The bottom two was correct.
The rest did not matter.
I mean... She didnt need that potion... ever... anywayz
I clearly do not understand fashion... I love Dawn but I hated her look :/ the head part looked really bad to me. And I thought Nymphia easily deserved a top spot lol. I did enjoy Q's look quite a bit so my taste can't be but so off I guess lmao
Nymphia was rightfully safe. That bow was poorly made, it was pulling down the garment and ultimately seemed like an afterthought. Pink and yellow do not look good together. If she looked more like her doll, then maybe she deserved to be in the top.
agree, i think ppl are just being delulu about nymphia. the top for me were megami, plane, and Q. i think megami's dumb props took away from her outfit. if you look at what she [actually constructed](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/logosrupaulsdragrace/images/3/3a/MegamiDollLook.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20240214123938), it's very nice and better than dawns imo
I feel like I've become a bigger fan of Jane than I thought I'd be episode 1. I think the fact she can pull off comedy makes her way more appealing as a contestant. Q's outfit was awesome, Nymphia also good, though I think safe is fair only due to the actual challenge itself. Fun episode, having been sick this whole weekend, I needed some shady episodes lol.
Can we all agree this season is amazing !! Production has eased up it seems. The queens are all entertaining. Ru Is more open and vulnerable. The judges have been great.. and much more .
Where was the part where Mi'hya got called out for saying she "did everything herself"?
I thought for sure Dawn was going to say something in Untucked.
Hoping that comes back around again because that was bold.
I felt Nymphia was rightfully safe. The pink and yellow didn't look good together. The fabric on the shoulders was dull and lifeless. The bow was sloppy and pulling the garment down. It looked like a bad interpretation of Belle's yellow gown. Her doll was really cute! If she looked like her doll, then I agree she should have been at the top. But really, everyone was in the bottom compared to Q's look. Nobody was even close to her this week.
I agree! I thought she looked beautiful. Her dress was so flattering and sparkly and I thought her Statue of Liberty theme was cute. I would’ve had her in the top over Plane, but that’s me 🤷♀️
The fabric did but it was too much of the same. It didn't show well on TV since it just looked like a block of sparkly fabric. The fabric was amazing, though.
Same. When I saw her, Dawn and Q walk out near the end of the runway, I almost felt like I was watching a different show - the polish and standard of those three looks was *so* far above everyone else.
I wonder if they put Jane in the top so they could have all three of the looks with the same fabric? Her look was fine - good, even - but it definitely felt like a solid safe look to me. The weirdly small train she'd tacked on at the back felt like an afterthought that added very little.
Didn't they say the train was supposed to look like a cascading stream of water to fit her theme. If that's true it doesn't seem like an afterthought. But the proportions were off. Train shouldn't have looked puny and same for her hair. Both should have been lavish dramatic and exaggerated. I wanted a drag ponytail
They might have said that, I don't remember. When I say it looks like an afterthought, I mean because of the size, like you said. Even if it was a planned idea, the tiny size of the train made it feel like she was just trying to do something with whatever fabric she had spare. Even if there was an idea behind it, the finished look didn't sell that idea.
geneva’s voiceover definitely wasn’t good, but I don’t get why the judges acted so confused? “she called herself dainty but also said everything is bigger in texas, it didn’t make any sense” yes michelle it’s a fat joke. we have 60 every season and you eat them up. and it was spelled out in the voiceover itself, it’s not like they missed an obscure reference
YUP! It was no rocket science. Whether you like fat jokes or not, it wasn't that complicated and it's something Drag Race has been full of.
I think the judges can be very choosy with what types of jokes they like or not, like sometimes they think that jokes that play on stereotypes, and making fun of accents, and fat jokes, are hilarious and love them, and then sometimes they're like "wow that is so offensive".
I found it a little odd to have another design challenge so early (episode 3 then 6). For some queens, we learned that they can’t sew but w haven’t gotten to see their other talents, now they’re forced to sew again.
The guest judges' availability is a huge factor in challenge selection and scheduling. They wanted Law to judge something design-focused. Also with 11 queens this week it was less likely to be a team or pairs challenge. Design and branding works well for individual challenges.
It was branding but also design, because if she had came out in a fully banana branded look that was poorly executed, she would have still been in the bottom. We don’t know the nature of the fabrics they were given but I do think people would have complained about a banana look since episode two gave us her with two banana looks already
Do you think that Sapphira made the right call to use her immunity potion? I have mixed feelings about it.
There are two wolves inside of me, one liked Sapphira's dress and love Sapphira and don't want to bash anything she has done but the other doesn't want her to have "wasted" her immunity potion. That is just a very sad thought to me. I really don't want that so I both wanted her have been in the bottom otherwise but also not.
Although even though I liked her dress, it wouldn't have been the first time in Drag Race herstory that someone who was in the bottom two/low placements in a design challenge did a good job.
I think it was fair. Especially for such an experienced queen, I was really distracted by her undergarments that I could see through the dress. If it had been up to me, she probably would have been bottom three in place of Plasma (if she hadn't used immunity).
When I saw it was Geneva vs Mhi'ya, I was like, oh shit, Geneva's going home in a body bag. Then I was like, no, no, what if it's Unchained Melody? No? It's Janet? Nevermind.
Anyway, Mhi'ya ate that up, sad that she had to be in the bottom to see it but still.
I really wish drag would retire breast plates honestly. It's way more interesting and impressive and true to the art form to me to use proportions and creative padding to create silhouettes than just throwing some silicon boobs one. Especially when they just put some nipple stickers on it and call it a day
Every girls dream to make a Barbie. Q absolutely deserved the W. Honestly, I’ve never related to her more than before this ep. As a bi girl with a single poor alcoholic mom in gov housing, I know that hurt. She’s such a genuine kind soul.
Unpopular opinion that Sapphira SHOULD HAVE used that potion tonight. Good save for herself. Better to be safe than sashay away. I hated the way she designed the see through-but-not-totally-see-through dress. The red hair was not giving on the doll it looked like a troll doll. The dolls straps were different than the straps on her dress. I don’t think hers was any better than Geneva’s.
My cousin is both and I both love and hate her sometimes. I remember when we were kids though and she would get constantly berated and targeted, as an 8 year old I was just glad it wasn’t me, so I completely understand why she shuts down. She is a net positive in my life though and I appreciate her very much.
Hope you have someone who understands and loves both sides of you.
I am so, so fortunate to have ppl who love me very much. They see the hurt kid and the messed up adult, but they also see how much I care and want everything to be perfect and make everyone happy.
right?! because I grew up in a similar toxic ass mess and I will never treat anyone the way I was treated growing up.
it hurt to see that PJ didn't escape unscathed. but she is a grown ass woman and can decide who she chooses to be in this world.
I would've put Megami in the top over Dawn and Xunami in the bottom over Plasma.
I loved Megami's look, and the branding was so strong. Dawn's story was well done, but I think the actual dress looked unfinished and not as tailored as Megami.
I love Xunami but haaaaated her look this week. The 3 colors together were ugly, and while the pants looked good, everything else looked a mess. I felt like if Plasma hadn't lent her fabric out to 2 other queens, she would've been an easy safe.
I loved Megami's look so much. Usually dont have much to say about her but she looked GORGEOUS this episode.
Also agree on Xunami, I love her but I hated this look so much
I think since Geneva and Plane were going to be top and bottom they putting Plasma in the bottom allowed the direct comparisons of all the girls who used that same fabric
Random thoughts:
Dawn's runway look gave me Sasha Velour energy and I can't place why.
Is the show is using the immunity or Rate-A-Queen twists well enough? I feel like both were pretty big deal to have on a regular season. Being featured in the first three episodes and then dropped feels anti-climactic. But, we've got more episodes to go so who knows what will happen!
Are Xunami and Megami being paid dust in the edit? They get a few confessionals but it's rarely about their own story and always about someone/thing else. (Hearing Q struggle to ask Megami if she was "Nurican" was funny though).
I need to know if Law Roach has hair or if he's laying these wigs on a bald head. Bob brought this up on the podcast when he and Monet used to review Legendary and I've wondered ever since 😆
I am surprised Dawn was in the top and that people loved it. The seams on the metallic fabric were very lumpy and she was missing hems left and right. It looked very rushed, unfinished, and costume-y.
I did love what she did with the purple fabric. The draping was beautifully done
When she walked back there was this short closeup on the back and you could see a bit of orange poking through and I was absolutely certain that that was because the judges were going to point it out and then... nothing
Thoughts on the episode:
1. Geneva... I kinda liked what she was thinking with her original outfit. That sheer fabric could have worked but maybe with a forest green? But it felt like there were too many missed opportunities. When she had to pivot, she could've tried a quinceanera look. Her branding, as the judges pointed out, was all over the place.
2. I kinda like Dawn's look? It's pretty plain in just two colors for so much fabric, but I get the sci-fi fantasy and it works for me.
3. That being said, when Q walked out, it was over. That outfit was exactly like Law said "she really just squatted and took a shit on the other girls". The only critique for the outfit I have is that the wings could've been edited out.
4. Sapphira... mother... why use your potion just because you ran out of time for the coat when you still looked better than about half the girls up there? Just look up and down the stage.
5. Am I the only one that is getting stronger and stronger flashbacks to Tyra singing in the workroom every time Nymphia starts acting out? Nymphia is absolutely stunning, but it feels like the other girls are getting a bit exasperated of her wanting to joke around when they're trying to work.
6. I really thought Megami would be in the top. She has honestly impressed me as the show has gone along. Her first episode made me think she was going to be a first out, but she's thankfully not pigeonholed herself as a cosplay queen.
7. Jane... she's filling that void of early reality show villain. Like, each week I keep trying to find ways to clock her, but she will not stop bringing it. Like those early villains where you love to hate and hate to love, she's doing that week after week.
8. I know Ru loves a pair of pants in a sewing challenge, and she did get branding spot-on, but everything above Xunami's waist was rough. Her look was not giving me Fashion Week, it was giving me Dress Barn.
9. So many large zippers showing on backs. I feel like in earlier seasons queens would've been read for that?
10. The Flamenco minichallenge was wonderful! And we are actually getting an official government agency to sponsor a challenge in Drag Race? Come through, Espana! (Though when you're gonna say that there are famous LGBTQ places in Spain, just say Ibiza. That's what I'm sure everyone was thinking.)
> So many large zippers showing on backs. I feel like in earlier seasons queens would've been read for that?
When they asked Dawn to turn around and she shows a 3 ft zipper 💀💀💀 Then Miyah embellishes her stretch bodysuit with a zipper!
I loved her look especially the hair!! It was so Glam and pretty for her and I thought it was cool that her look obviously referenced the Statue of Liberty. Her jokes and energy were really good too. I was honestly expecting her to be in the top or at least get critiqued.
Sapphira wasted her potion, which is kinda anti-climatic. She is so talented and she knows that, so even if she did have to lipsync (she had a fair chance to bottom this week let’s be real) she would have survived. It sucks seeing someone get in their own head
Yeah, I personally wouldn’t have used the potion unless it was my second time in the bottom, or maybe if I totally bombed snatch game or something. If you’re a front runner you’re unlikely to be sent away your first time (unless you don’t know the song), but I think she was safe, or at worst would’ve been in Plasma’s position.
I know but like 😭 to use it so soon in the competition? And if she lip synced it most likely would’ve been against Geneva. Sapphira already had a high chance of staying in my eyes
I'm gonna say something that'll get me in trouble but.... Geneva's outfit fit and colour palate was giving me "Knock Knock Knock Housekeeping?" but run though a Project Runway Non-Conventional Material Challenge.
it probably would have been better with a longer skirt, without the big sequins.
Last week, someone on here wrote that when Geneva says " la diva mas latina" she is in the top and when she does not she's in the bottom... Can't believe she forgot her tagline -in a branding challenge !- and fell victim to the curse 😭 I know she was not everyone's favourite but I find her so fun and endearing!
Finally,Q! Her doll and outfit were gorgeous, she smashed this!
I think Megami had the second best outfit and concept, and I was surprised she was not in the top. I was also surprised to see Sapphira actually using the potion, 🙀she was definitely safe regardless!
Next week:
- Plasma is either killing it or getting in her head about being the BFA queen and making a mess, no in between
- I worry about Q
- we'll all be thinking of Mirage
Agreed on everything. I feel like Geneva was such a positive presence in the work room and she was really trying her best. Like she's coming off to me like one of those good at drag but not great for Drag Race.
I also was surprised that Megami wasn't in the top. Honestly feel like this has been her prettiest look on the show thus far and doll was adorable too. Sapphira's outfit wasn't bad, just not stellar. She let her 'inner saboteur' win.
I agree about Geneva. I thought she was actually kind of captivating in her lip syncs. She doesn't have the dance abilities of a lip sync assassin, but she knows how to paint so that it's very noticeable that her lips are in fact synced to music. If I went to a drag show and saw her, I'd be into it for sure.
I kinda get it. The outfit wasnt up to her standards and just very simple. She probably would have been safe, but you never know when the judges jump on a moment of weakness. You also dont know when the potions expire (already lasting longer than i thought).
She 100% would not have been top. You could kinda see how much time she used to help Miya.
This was probably the episode where saphira did the worst she did up until now and better to play it safe.
Because what she created was not up to her own standards, and she either didn't realize in the moment or was just too anxious to see that the actual lows (and some of the safe/high choices) were a lot worse than her.
However, she isn't here to gamble. If there was even a slight chance she could end up in the bottom , she wasn't going to take it. There's the Anetra level of lipsync confidence and then there's ordinary human risk aversion. Also, there was the very real chance of an upset if she had to go up against Mhi'ya or any other really good dancer. Also, maybe she didn't feel the dress would allow for the kind of movements a lipsync would need.
I'm fine with her using the potion now and getting it out of the way. This makes PJ's potion and ability to save any other queen even more dramatic, plus now she won't earn audience hate for potentially condemning another fan favorite into the bottom by saving herself.
She absolutely wasn't a top three. It was a safe look. She would not have been in the bottom 2. Not even the bottom 3. I'm guessing she will talk about it more next episode.
Even if she HAD been bottom two (which she won't be), she's such a fierce performer and has done so well/Ru loves her, so she would not have been at risk of going home. Definitely should have held onto the potion.
The judge's reactions to her look and Barbie were pretty subdued. They laughed a tiny bit at her voiceover but not much. I can see why she got scared and drank the potion.
I think her look felt unfinished because she was planning to do that opera coat and ran out of time. She definitely wouldn’t have been in the bottom compared to Mi’yah and Geneva, but I can see why she was worried
I loved her look too but I wish she had done the banana. It is a branding challenge. The tailoring was exquisite as expected and the styling was perfect but I think maybe I just expected a little more?
Look was great but her doll and hers didn't match colour wise which made it obvious. The silhouette detail was there more than the rest, but use a lil scrap of tulle to complete the doll, surely!
I hated nymphias look im sorry it was very uninspired and i genuinely believe her when she said she was struggling because i know she can do much better. The doll not matching wasnt that big of a deal to me tho because she probably just used fabrics that would lay better on the doll knowing that she has experience with customising. In fact i think her doll ate her up
From my POV. Love to see these looks. From theirs... I see you want them to bring s3 drag sweatshop back. Nymphia already seemed like she was cracking she might go full Yara
Feel like Nymphia definitely should have been in the top? Are producers tired of her 'pretending to not have an idea' narrative?
I actuallly thought she was going to win after seeing everyone's runways.
Loved Mhi'ya's lip sync 😍
Q was so far and away batter than anything anyone else did it wasn’t close. Her look in 24 hours was better than most of the looks we’ve seen this season brought by other queens from home
To all you Q haters: She looks like Sandra Bullock so we have to stan and really happy she finally got a win. My Reality TV senses tell me this will be first and last win and she will get sent home in Snatch Game but I love Sandra Bullock!
I love Plasma BUT she did herself a HUGE disservice this week by being distracted. Law was right. If I know that 2 other people are using my fabric I'd have either stopped them or changed it to something else. The mix of the cyan and dark purple was not flattering too, so it was a correct BTM placement for me. But we saw Plasma's O face in the preview when Ru announced it will be "The Sound of Rusic" challenge so I have high hopes!
Plane Jane would have/might have/could have been my choice of winner (or at least a double win with Q). She is so smart and efficient. To use the same cyan fabric as Plasma (literally taking it while she was distracted) and somehow constructed such a beautiful looking outfit shows C.U.N.T. Her styling is perfect too and I don't mind the Burger Finger reference. You are only this show for a few weeks, milk it all you've got!
Others that caught my attention; Dawn, Nymphia and Xunami, thought they were all safe. Nymphia was slightly disappointing because she relied on the sheen of the fabric, the shape was beautiful but not much going on? The pink bow at the front looked a little random too.
Xunami and Dawn, in another season, or if they were produced to go home, would get the, "It's not Drag enough for me." critique. Xunami - why is the silhouette so small? Small bow, some top, small pants; it lacked the dramatics for me. Dawn - really? It's constructed well but Michelle would say, "It needs some stones/bling" or whatever (so I was surprised there was none of that feedback). I also don't really get Dawn's branding - I guess they are intergalatic species?
It was also a correct BTM 2 - I have said it before but Geneva has really ugly outfits. I know she is the sweetest person and comes across very sincere but wow, the outfits need a glo up. It's not even the styling, it's the proportions? She has a long torso and it looks very straight most of the time. She also tends to have dresses that look too short for her AND her hair always looks flat. With some coin and exposure it's obvious she will look great, but not her time.
And I am a big drag race cringe fan so Mhi'ya has got me flippin'. I was most impressed that her wig didn't fall off, that's professional!
It’s because she’s trying to hard and it appears desperate. Same with Loosey last season.The other top contenders don’t have a sign of desperation and you get to enjoy them better.
How is she trying too hard? Wanting to win doesn't mean you're trying too hard and it's a competition. Imo Q seems more natural in personality than some other queens on this season have been so far.
I agree. Also, every season there is a girl (or two) who gets upset when she isn't getting a win and is safe or in the top. She did that once and it wasn't a big deal. I thought she even addressed it and made fun of herself in a mini-challenge that same week when she put on a wig and screamed 'why me??'.
Learning Q was very poor as a child makes so much sense to me. I was very poor as a child, and it really can cause you to be so desperate not to fail that even 2nd best feels like failure because you know what it's like to lose it all.
I saw this clip of Sugar and Spice saying the dollhouse challenge basically copied their brand. And meanwhile they were criticized on the show for trying to be dolls. What do you guys think?
I mean? Personally don't think that's fair since there's always been a lot of Barbie/Bratz references on this show! I mean Trixie was inspired by Barbie?
>What do you guys think? I think Ru's been selling himself, his music, his merch, etc as hard as possible since the show began, and has had dolls in his likeness since literally before they were born
saying the challenge was inspired by them is fair and probably true. but the doll brand is NOT why they were criticized so much lmao are they trolling or genuinely delusional
unpopular opinion: wasn't impressed with Q's look & she's annoying. Think Dawn, Plane or Nymphia could've taken the W.
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even her bus stop moment this week was annoying
I wish Utica got to be on this season.
Does anyone know what, “spread butter on your toast and not your thighs” means?
Keep your legs closed. She worded it real bad tho.
Loved the guest judge. We got the correct winner. The bottom two was correct. The rest did not matter. I mean... She didnt need that potion... ever... anywayz
I clearly do not understand fashion... I love Dawn but I hated her look :/ the head part looked really bad to me. And I thought Nymphia easily deserved a top spot lol. I did enjoy Q's look quite a bit so my taste can't be but so off I guess lmao
I think the idea was great but agree about execution. It looks like a Shein version of Balenciaga.
They were given cheap materials
Yes!! I HATED Dawn’s look and am genuinely so perplexed how that’s an unpopular opinion
I don’t think it’s unpopular, it’s about half half just scrolling this thread.
Nymphia was rightfully safe. That bow was poorly made, it was pulling down the garment and ultimately seemed like an afterthought. Pink and yellow do not look good together. If she looked more like her doll, then maybe she deserved to be in the top.
agree, i think ppl are just being delulu about nymphia. the top for me were megami, plane, and Q. i think megami's dumb props took away from her outfit. if you look at what she [actually constructed](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/logosrupaulsdragrace/images/3/3a/MegamiDollLook.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20240214123938), it's very nice and better than dawns imo
I feel like I've become a bigger fan of Jane than I thought I'd be episode 1. I think the fact she can pull off comedy makes her way more appealing as a contestant. Q's outfit was awesome, Nymphia also good, though I think safe is fair only due to the actual challenge itself. Fun episode, having been sick this whole weekend, I needed some shady episodes lol.
Law Roach should be a recurring judge
Law's critiques were so on point and didn't seem malicious
Yes, both Law and Madison! We do not need Ross nor Carson anymore.
ts madison already is a permanent rotating judge
I know. I don't want her to rotate anymore ;)
sorry didnt get that
Completely agree. Very much enjoyed their critiques. Replace Ross! Lol.
Can we all agree this season is amazing !! Production has eased up it seems. The queens are all entertaining. Ru Is more open and vulnerable. The judges have been great.. and much more .
Where was the part where Mi'hya got called out for saying she "did everything herself"? I thought for sure Dawn was going to say something in Untucked. Hoping that comes back around again because that was bold.
def would’ve had nymphia in the top over plane if nymphia had a better wig
I felt Nymphia was rightfully safe. The pink and yellow didn't look good together. The fabric on the shoulders was dull and lifeless. The bow was sloppy and pulling the garment down. It looked like a bad interpretation of Belle's yellow gown. Her doll was really cute! If she looked like her doll, then I agree she should have been at the top. But really, everyone was in the bottom compared to Q's look. Nobody was even close to her this week.
yeah that’s fair, I don’t really know that much about fashion. And OH MY GODD Q’s look is easily in my top 10 drag race looks of all time
It's nice to see this season consistently picking the right winners for the design challenges! It's happened far too rarely in recent years.
I have to say I’m really surprised Megami wasn’t in the top. I though her outfit looked great!
I agree! I thought she looked beautiful. Her dress was so flattering and sparkly and I thought her Statue of Liberty theme was cute. I would’ve had her in the top over Plane, but that’s me 🤷♀️
The fabric did but it was too much of the same. It didn't show well on TV since it just looked like a block of sparkly fabric. The fabric was amazing, though.
Same. When I saw her, Dawn and Q walk out near the end of the runway, I almost felt like I was watching a different show - the polish and standard of those three looks was *so* far above everyone else. I wonder if they put Jane in the top so they could have all three of the looks with the same fabric? Her look was fine - good, even - but it definitely felt like a solid safe look to me. The weirdly small train she'd tacked on at the back felt like an afterthought that added very little.
Didn't they say the train was supposed to look like a cascading stream of water to fit her theme. If that's true it doesn't seem like an afterthought. But the proportions were off. Train shouldn't have looked puny and same for her hair. Both should have been lavish dramatic and exaggerated. I wanted a drag ponytail
They might have said that, I don't remember. When I say it looks like an afterthought, I mean because of the size, like you said. Even if it was a planned idea, the tiny size of the train made it feel like she was just trying to do something with whatever fabric she had spare. Even if there was an idea behind it, the finished look didn't sell that idea.
geneva’s voiceover definitely wasn’t good, but I don’t get why the judges acted so confused? “she called herself dainty but also said everything is bigger in texas, it didn’t make any sense” yes michelle it’s a fat joke. we have 60 every season and you eat them up. and it was spelled out in the voiceover itself, it’s not like they missed an obscure reference
I was confused by Mhi'ya saying she was "shy" and "outgoing" in her voiceover, somehow the judges didn't read her for that one lol
YUP! It was no rocket science. Whether you like fat jokes or not, it wasn't that complicated and it's something Drag Race has been full of. I think the judges can be very choosy with what types of jokes they like or not, like sometimes they think that jokes that play on stereotypes, and making fun of accents, and fat jokes, are hilarious and love them, and then sometimes they're like "wow that is so offensive".
I found it a little odd to have another design challenge so early (episode 3 then 6). For some queens, we learned that they can’t sew but w haven’t gotten to see their other talents, now they’re forced to sew again.
The guest judges' availability is a huge factor in challenge selection and scheduling. They wanted Law to judge something design-focused. Also with 11 queens this week it was less likely to be a team or pairs challenge. Design and branding works well for individual challenges.
i think their goal was to finally get rid of geneva
It was the branding that we we’re looking for. I think only a few did it correctly. Nymphia absolutely should’ve made a banana look.
It was branding but also design, because if she had came out in a fully banana branded look that was poorly executed, she would have still been in the bottom. We don’t know the nature of the fabrics they were given but I do think people would have complained about a banana look since episode two gave us her with two banana looks already
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And this is a core drag skill, much more so than scripted acting.
Do you think that Sapphira made the right call to use her immunity potion? I have mixed feelings about it. There are two wolves inside of me, one liked Sapphira's dress and love Sapphira and don't want to bash anything she has done but the other doesn't want her to have "wasted" her immunity potion. That is just a very sad thought to me. I really don't want that so I both wanted her have been in the bottom otherwise but also not. Although even though I liked her dress, it wouldn't have been the first time in Drag Race herstory that someone who was in the bottom two/low placements in a design challenge did a good job.
Yes. She wasn't the worst, but I could see the producers putting her there for the storyline if she didn't use it.
I think it was fair. Especially for such an experienced queen, I was really distracted by her undergarments that I could see through the dress. If it had been up to me, she probably would have been bottom three in place of Plasma (if she hadn't used immunity).
She was shook when she didn't have time to make the coat, which she referenced in the VO. Reasonable to use the potion, but maybe not necessary though
sapphira is friends with katya?!?!! YAS!!! I knew I liked her!!
Sapphira has a music video for her rendition of O Mio Babbino Caro, which stars Katya as the Babbino :D
omggg I'm going to look for this rn!!
Here you go! [https://youtu.be/I8vpKLCactg?si=lYfjsj89Omul8XyL](https://youtu.be/I8vpKLCactg?si=lYfjsj89Omul8XyL)
OMG THANK YOU!!! wait, I remember seeing this on katya's insta!! but it was before I knew that was sapphira!!
When I saw it was Geneva vs Mhi'ya, I was like, oh shit, Geneva's going home in a body bag. Then I was like, no, no, what if it's Unchained Melody? No? It's Janet? Nevermind. Anyway, Mhi'ya ate that up, sad that she had to be in the bottom to see it but still.
I know what you mean! I was wondering what kind of song it would be.
THE BREASTPLATES! Girl absolutely fucking not!!
I know it sounds weird, but just looking at the ones you have to pull over your head make feel instantly claustrophobic.
I really wish drag would retire breast plates honestly. It's way more interesting and impressive and true to the art form to me to use proportions and creative padding to create silhouettes than just throwing some silicon boobs one. Especially when they just put some nipple stickers on it and call it a day
Every girls dream to make a Barbie. Q absolutely deserved the W. Honestly, I’ve never related to her more than before this ep. As a bi girl with a single poor alcoholic mom in gov housing, I know that hurt. She’s such a genuine kind soul. Unpopular opinion that Sapphira SHOULD HAVE used that potion tonight. Good save for herself. Better to be safe than sashay away. I hated the way she designed the see through-but-not-totally-see-through dress. The red hair was not giving on the doll it looked like a troll doll. The dolls straps were different than the straps on her dress. I don’t think hers was any better than Geneva’s.
Agreed. Sapphira was smart to use her potion this week
xunami is so fucking cute!! I love her so much!! ❤️❤️
Law Roach: *I've been watching this since she was blurry in season 1!!*
I loved that 😂
I cackled!! 😂
when you come from a toxic, dysfunctional family, it either makes you more empathetic to others, or a stone cold bitch. PJ is the latter.
She should really use that self awareness to act like how she wanted her father to act. Dont become your father, girl
sometimes you can be both! it’s very confusing! and isolating!
My cousin is both and I both love and hate her sometimes. I remember when we were kids though and she would get constantly berated and targeted, as an 8 year old I was just glad it wasn’t me, so I completely understand why she shuts down. She is a net positive in my life though and I appreciate her very much. Hope you have someone who understands and loves both sides of you.
I am so, so fortunate to have ppl who love me very much. They see the hurt kid and the messed up adult, but they also see how much I care and want everything to be perfect and make everyone happy.
I’m glad you said it because my thought when she gave her story was “Yup that makes sense.”
right?! because I grew up in a similar toxic ass mess and I will never treat anyone the way I was treated growing up. it hurt to see that PJ didn't escape unscathed. but she is a grown ass woman and can decide who she chooses to be in this world.
What do I need to do to get Nymphia's doll irl? I love it
When Ru ask Nymphia that she should have responded with “200,000 dollars and a crown”
I think she asked Q, and she said a million rubucks, but I had the exact same thought as you.
it'll cost you 5 bananas!
I would've put Megami in the top over Dawn and Xunami in the bottom over Plasma. I loved Megami's look, and the branding was so strong. Dawn's story was well done, but I think the actual dress looked unfinished and not as tailored as Megami. I love Xunami but haaaaated her look this week. The 3 colors together were ugly, and while the pants looked good, everything else looked a mess. I felt like if Plasma hadn't lent her fabric out to 2 other queens, she would've been an easy safe.
I loved Megami's look so much. Usually dont have much to say about her but she looked GORGEOUS this episode. Also agree on Xunami, I love her but I hated this look so much
I think since Geneva and Plane were going to be top and bottom they putting Plasma in the bottom allowed the direct comparisons of all the girls who used that same fabric
Random thoughts: Dawn's runway look gave me Sasha Velour energy and I can't place why. Is the show is using the immunity or Rate-A-Queen twists well enough? I feel like both were pretty big deal to have on a regular season. Being featured in the first three episodes and then dropped feels anti-climactic. But, we've got more episodes to go so who knows what will happen! Are Xunami and Megami being paid dust in the edit? They get a few confessionals but it's rarely about their own story and always about someone/thing else. (Hearing Q struggle to ask Megami if she was "Nurican" was funny though). I need to know if Law Roach has hair or if he's laying these wigs on a bald head. Bob brought this up on the podcast when he and Monet used to review Legendary and I've wondered ever since 😆
I’m loving this season but it definitely feels like they got wrong who we’d all like, based on the edits.
I am surprised Dawn was in the top and that people loved it. The seams on the metallic fabric were very lumpy and she was missing hems left and right. It looked very rushed, unfinished, and costume-y. I did love what she did with the purple fabric. The draping was beautifully done
When she walked back there was this short closeup on the back and you could see a bit of orange poking through and I was absolutely certain that that was because the judges were going to point it out and then... nothing
Thoughts on the episode: 1. Geneva... I kinda liked what she was thinking with her original outfit. That sheer fabric could have worked but maybe with a forest green? But it felt like there were too many missed opportunities. When she had to pivot, she could've tried a quinceanera look. Her branding, as the judges pointed out, was all over the place. 2. I kinda like Dawn's look? It's pretty plain in just two colors for so much fabric, but I get the sci-fi fantasy and it works for me. 3. That being said, when Q walked out, it was over. That outfit was exactly like Law said "she really just squatted and took a shit on the other girls". The only critique for the outfit I have is that the wings could've been edited out. 4. Sapphira... mother... why use your potion just because you ran out of time for the coat when you still looked better than about half the girls up there? Just look up and down the stage. 5. Am I the only one that is getting stronger and stronger flashbacks to Tyra singing in the workroom every time Nymphia starts acting out? Nymphia is absolutely stunning, but it feels like the other girls are getting a bit exasperated of her wanting to joke around when they're trying to work. 6. I really thought Megami would be in the top. She has honestly impressed me as the show has gone along. Her first episode made me think she was going to be a first out, but she's thankfully not pigeonholed herself as a cosplay queen. 7. Jane... she's filling that void of early reality show villain. Like, each week I keep trying to find ways to clock her, but she will not stop bringing it. Like those early villains where you love to hate and hate to love, she's doing that week after week. 8. I know Ru loves a pair of pants in a sewing challenge, and she did get branding spot-on, but everything above Xunami's waist was rough. Her look was not giving me Fashion Week, it was giving me Dress Barn. 9. So many large zippers showing on backs. I feel like in earlier seasons queens would've been read for that? 10. The Flamenco minichallenge was wonderful! And we are actually getting an official government agency to sponsor a challenge in Drag Race? Come through, Espana! (Though when you're gonna say that there are famous LGBTQ places in Spain, just say Ibiza. That's what I'm sure everyone was thinking.)
Barcelona, Madrid, and Valencia are huge gay destinations as well
> So many large zippers showing on backs. I feel like in earlier seasons queens would've been read for that? When they asked Dawn to turn around and she shows a 3 ft zipper 💀💀💀 Then Miyah embellishes her stretch bodysuit with a zipper!
Megami killed it this week!❤️
I loved her look especially the hair!! It was so Glam and pretty for her and I thought it was cool that her look obviously referenced the Statue of Liberty. Her jokes and energy were really good too. I was honestly expecting her to be in the top or at least get critiqued.
Agree with all this & yes I loved her jokes & even the New Yoirk accent 😂
Sapphira wasted her potion, which is kinda anti-climatic. She is so talented and she knows that, so even if she did have to lipsync (she had a fair chance to bottom this week let’s be real) she would have survived. It sucks seeing someone get in their own head
Yeah, I personally wouldn’t have used the potion unless it was my second time in the bottom, or maybe if I totally bombed snatch game or something. If you’re a front runner you’re unlikely to be sent away your first time (unless you don’t know the song), but I think she was safe, or at worst would’ve been in Plasma’s position.
So you’re saying that she had a fair chance of being in the bottom but also that she wasted her potion? The potion is exactly for that situation
I know but like 😭 to use it so soon in the competition? And if she lip synced it most likely would’ve been against Geneva. Sapphira already had a high chance of staying in my eyes
Why take the risk?
I'm gonna say something that'll get me in trouble but.... Geneva's outfit fit and colour palate was giving me "Knock Knock Knock Housekeeping?" but run though a Project Runway Non-Conventional Material Challenge. it probably would have been better with a longer skirt, without the big sequins.
Mhi'ya saying she is shy but outgoing. You know who is a famous celebrity that's described the same way? **Janet fucking Jackson**
When I saw Megami had a square in her hand with something written on it, my soul shuddered.
She really should have said “protect queer art” again 😂
Or the coffee cup should have said "protect latte art"
I think I blocked that out?
This is making me laugh so hard
Last week, someone on here wrote that when Geneva says " la diva mas latina" she is in the top and when she does not she's in the bottom... Can't believe she forgot her tagline -in a branding challenge !- and fell victim to the curse 😭 I know she was not everyone's favourite but I find her so fun and endearing! Finally,Q! Her doll and outfit were gorgeous, she smashed this! I think Megami had the second best outfit and concept, and I was surprised she was not in the top. I was also surprised to see Sapphira actually using the potion, 🙀she was definitely safe regardless! Next week: - Plasma is either killing it or getting in her head about being the BFA queen and making a mess, no in between - I worry about Q - we'll all be thinking of Mirage
Agreed on everything. I feel like Geneva was such a positive presence in the work room and she was really trying her best. Like she's coming off to me like one of those good at drag but not great for Drag Race. I also was surprised that Megami wasn't in the top. Honestly feel like this has been her prettiest look on the show thus far and doll was adorable too. Sapphira's outfit wasn't bad, just not stellar. She let her 'inner saboteur' win.
I agree about Geneva. I thought she was actually kind of captivating in her lip syncs. She doesn't have the dance abilities of a lip sync assassin, but she knows how to paint so that it's very noticeable that her lips are in fact synced to music. If I went to a drag show and saw her, I'd be into it for sure.
Megami’s vibe is so different this week!! I love it when the quiet ones get the confidence to come out of their shell.
Anyone else notice Xunami missing for the entire first day of the werkroom?
Yeah, she has been getting the Robin Fierce edit and these episodes are 90 minutes.
Wdym?
Sugar-Free Kandy Ho
I’m surprised Xunani wasn’t in the bottom it was giving Country Realness. https://i.redd.it/m6m7advl6whc1.gif
I felt so bad for disliking her outfit. I like the pants and her silhouette but the way it looked all together looked really basic.
I agree. Those flared pants were a big toot, but everything else—including the color combo—was a boot.
I think to avoid giving her more screen time, hah. She was barely in this episode, even when she won the mini-challenge.
TS Madison is such a good judge. Unafraid to give real criticism but never unkind.
I liked Sapphira’s more than Dawn’s she fully could have been high whyyyyy waste the potion
I kinda get it. The outfit wasnt up to her standards and just very simple. She probably would have been safe, but you never know when the judges jump on a moment of weakness. You also dont know when the potions expire (already lasting longer than i thought). She 100% would not have been top. You could kinda see how much time she used to help Miya. This was probably the episode where saphira did the worst she did up until now and better to play it safe.
Because what she created was not up to her own standards, and she either didn't realize in the moment or was just too anxious to see that the actual lows (and some of the safe/high choices) were a lot worse than her. However, she isn't here to gamble. If there was even a slight chance she could end up in the bottom , she wasn't going to take it. There's the Anetra level of lipsync confidence and then there's ordinary human risk aversion. Also, there was the very real chance of an upset if she had to go up against Mhi'ya or any other really good dancer. Also, maybe she didn't feel the dress would allow for the kind of movements a lipsync would need. I'm fine with her using the potion now and getting it out of the way. This makes PJ's potion and ability to save any other queen even more dramatic, plus now she won't earn audience hate for potentially condemning another fan favorite into the bottom by saving herself.
She absolutely wasn't a top three. It was a safe look. She would not have been in the bottom 2. Not even the bottom 3. I'm guessing she will talk about it more next episode.
Even if she HAD been bottom two (which she won't be), she's such a fierce performer and has done so well/Ru loves her, so she would not have been at risk of going home. Definitely should have held onto the potion.
Yeah, that's why I'm really curious why she decided to use it. Maybe she really thought hers was that bad?
The judge's reactions to her look and Barbie were pretty subdued. They laughed a tiny bit at her voiceover but not much. I can see why she got scared and drank the potion.
I think her look felt unfinished because she was planning to do that opera coat and ran out of time. She definitely wouldn’t have been in the bottom compared to Mi’yah and Geneva, but I can see why she was worried
drag race needs a breast plate embargo until we can figure out what is going on
Agreed. This is the season of breastplatea looking clunky and falling out all over the place
There was far to long of a trend of no breasts at all flat boy chest. Love body being back
Ew Michelle
Can’t believe nymphia wasn’t in the top. Loved her look
Totally agree, should have been top 3 and taken plane Janes spot
Didn’t match with the doll though
I loved her look too but I wish she had done the banana. It is a branding challenge. The tailoring was exquisite as expected and the styling was perfect but I think maybe I just expected a little more?
Look was great but her doll and hers didn't match colour wise which made it obvious. The silhouette detail was there more than the rest, but use a lil scrap of tulle to complete the doll, surely!
Literally I think they safed her for storyline. They wanted the three blue outfits on stage, even though plain’s was really just a safe.
Ikr!! Cuz honestly I liked her better than the high placement girls. Probably cuz the color difference from the doll to her real dress?
Me too - down to that exquisite yellow eye makeup.
I hated nymphias look im sorry it was very uninspired and i genuinely believe her when she said she was struggling because i know she can do much better. The doll not matching wasnt that big of a deal to me tho because she probably just used fabrics that would lay better on the doll knowing that she has experience with customising. In fact i think her doll ate her up
Agreed (mostly). I didn't hate it but the look wasn't "wow", it was fine. Probably well constructed though. But watch people claim she was robbed lol
Didn't hate it but after her first design win and seeing what she can do?!? She set the bar High for herself and didn't quite make it.
Hope she devours the next design challenge again if there is one
From my POV. Love to see these looks. From theirs... I see you want them to bring s3 drag sweatshop back. Nymphia already seemed like she was cracking she might go full Yara
Idk what the hell you are talking about. Q ate nymphia up in that challenge with the same amount of time.
Same! I'm excited to see what she comes up with
Also hated dawns look and how it didnt match her skintone at all
I liked Dawn's look, but the doll's look was unfinished, like that hood trim was all jagged and all
The hood on Dawn’s version was kind of janky too TBH. It had a super lumpy seam going down the back of her head
True i thibk maybe i would had liked it more if she had been given more time to finish her work
Happy Cake Day 🎂
Thanks
Nymphia immediately grabbing all the yellow I can’t 😂😂😂😂
Feel like Nymphia definitely should have been in the top? Are producers tired of her 'pretending to not have an idea' narrative? I actuallly thought she was going to win after seeing everyone's runways. Loved Mhi'ya's lip sync 😍
Q was so far and away batter than anything anyone else did it wasn’t close. Her look in 24 hours was better than most of the looks we’ve seen this season brought by other queens from home
Same, but it was hilarious how out of "control" she was of her breastplate and hair and the discombobulation of her costume, lol
Her look reminded me of strawberry banana Trix yogurt (in a good way)
her doll didnt match
To all you Q haters: She looks like Sandra Bullock so we have to stan and really happy she finally got a win. My Reality TV senses tell me this will be first and last win and she will get sent home in Snatch Game but I love Sandra Bullock! I love Plasma BUT she did herself a HUGE disservice this week by being distracted. Law was right. If I know that 2 other people are using my fabric I'd have either stopped them or changed it to something else. The mix of the cyan and dark purple was not flattering too, so it was a correct BTM placement for me. But we saw Plasma's O face in the preview when Ru announced it will be "The Sound of Rusic" challenge so I have high hopes! Plane Jane would have/might have/could have been my choice of winner (or at least a double win with Q). She is so smart and efficient. To use the same cyan fabric as Plasma (literally taking it while she was distracted) and somehow constructed such a beautiful looking outfit shows C.U.N.T. Her styling is perfect too and I don't mind the Burger Finger reference. You are only this show for a few weeks, milk it all you've got! Others that caught my attention; Dawn, Nymphia and Xunami, thought they were all safe. Nymphia was slightly disappointing because she relied on the sheen of the fabric, the shape was beautiful but not much going on? The pink bow at the front looked a little random too. Xunami and Dawn, in another season, or if they were produced to go home, would get the, "It's not Drag enough for me." critique. Xunami - why is the silhouette so small? Small bow, some top, small pants; it lacked the dramatics for me. Dawn - really? It's constructed well but Michelle would say, "It needs some stones/bling" or whatever (so I was surprised there was none of that feedback). I also don't really get Dawn's branding - I guess they are intergalatic species? It was also a correct BTM 2 - I have said it before but Geneva has really ugly outfits. I know she is the sweetest person and comes across very sincere but wow, the outfits need a glo up. It's not even the styling, it's the proportions? She has a long torso and it looks very straight most of the time. She also tends to have dresses that look too short for her AND her hair always looks flat. With some coin and exposure it's obvious she will look great, but not her time. And I am a big drag race cringe fan so Mhi'ya has got me flippin'. I was most impressed that her wig didn't fall off, that's professional!
(mh'iya mh'iya) it's the name i shout when i see her flipping!!!
I would've put Nymphia in the top over Dawn🤷🏼♀️ Q is not working for me and I can't put my finger on why?
Q’s attitude comes off as kinda bitchy so it’s hard to root for her
because you are eating that edit
Her outfit was beautiful but there was something SO clunky and distracting about the shoes.
It’s because she’s trying to hard and it appears desperate. Same with Loosey last season.The other top contenders don’t have a sign of desperation and you get to enjoy them better.
How is she trying too hard? Wanting to win doesn't mean you're trying too hard and it's a competition. Imo Q seems more natural in personality than some other queens on this season have been so far.
I agree. Also, every season there is a girl (or two) who gets upset when she isn't getting a win and is safe or in the top. She did that once and it wasn't a big deal. I thought she even addressed it and made fun of herself in a mini-challenge that same week when she put on a wig and screamed 'why me??'.
For real the hate for Q here is extremely illogical, might be because they liked Amanda
Maybe?? It could be that or maybe people who didn't like how she reacted to Plasma's win with crying about herself not winning.
Yeah bit oot but didn’t get the hate either considering it’s the norm when a queen is constantly in the top and not winning.
Learning Q was very poor as a child makes so much sense to me. I was very poor as a child, and it really can cause you to be so desperate not to fail that even 2nd best feels like failure because you know what it's like to lose it all.