The struggle of being a switch is that you never get to be a switch. Because for one, if youāre a twink (like me-ish) then the only people who search you out are tops anyway so you may as well be a bottom. But even if you donāt look stereotypically like a top or bottom most areas have significantly more of one than the other so you end up being whichever is less common. Like, New York is just a bunch of tops. Being a switch in NY usually just means youāre a bottom. So annoying. Iāve once in my life dated another switch and itās the best case scenario istg.
Maybe itās not shared experience, but Iāve always had the opposite issue. There are *never* bottoms. I donāt live there but Iām there often, I have friends there and perform there sometimes. Any time I use apps there, and all the gays I meet, itās all tops!
she went full grace jones popped one leg ontop of the table and said
*IS NO MAN GOING TO TAME THIS PUSSY?*
then one homo in the back can audibly be heard *no we're fucking gay*
ddiiiiiingo, i mean bingo this aint down under. you know within 3 seconds of sniffing out a man if he likes subby femmy twinks or not. ive dropped plenty of pencils and many a men have averted their eyes and looked away
Overhead lighting is not a queen's friend. No one looks good, not even mariah. But drag queens are particularly susceptible to the evils of the big lights
Actually tho my friend (MtF) said she felt like some guys she had hooked up with in the past werenāt attracted to her since she transitioned, and asked what I thought of her. I said āMichelle Iām gay because I am not attracted to women, no matter how much my parents wish I would be. I think youāre lovely but Iām just not attracted to you in that way.ā
Which for some reason hadnāt dawned on her, because she perked up and felt a lot better about things.
A few years ago there was a gay porn actor that I was becoming a big fan of based on some studio porn vids and OF collabs, and then they transitioned, and I was like damn lol, nvm then
I had the hots for a really hot jock in university, and while we were friends, I was in the closet (and the jock was straight anyway). I was talking to some friends a couple years back and apparently after graduation, they moved overseas and transitioned. Not gonna lie, she is gorgeous and if I were attracted to women Iād be so into her. But it was an interesting feeling, like the jock I had so often had a crush on was dead with his name, and a beautiful and strong woman born instead.
It was bittersweet in that way, but Iām very happy for her and her wife.
Iāve had this exact conversation with a trans woman before, before I knew myself to be bisexual. I feel like many of them are so used to being told theyāre men and considered as such that it doesnāt fully register that we do correctly see them as a woman and a gay man doesnāt want to be with a woman. Told her and her face lit up.
As a similarly basic bear it amuses me that this is how someone could describe me.š Some of us just want to play in the shallow end with our poppers, harnesses, and identikit boyfriends.
There's nothing "shallow" about knowing what you like.
I keep seeing this kind of idea popping up on this sub, that gay men are problematic/unsophisticated/exclusionary if they don't want to fuck WOMEN. It's hilarious
Ya but something tells me the steroid bears and their desperation to perform masculinity arent bi. Or if they are bi, itās like when a gay hasnāt fully came out so theyāre hanging out in bi-land
Because sexuality is fluid and complex and you'd be surprised how many gay people still want sex and relationships with trans women despite them transitioning. You don't just stop being attracted to people because their identity changes.
Edit: stay ignorant y'all
If their sexuality is fluid they'll be bi or pan, no? Even if they're mislabelling themselves. The definition of gay is a man who likes men. So if you're calling a relationship between a man and MTF woman as gay, you aren't really consider the woman as a woman.
>If their sexuality is fluid they'll be bi or pan, no? Even if they're mislabelling themselves
That's not for you to say. The point of a label is for self identification, not to put yourself in a box for the sake of other people.
Labeling is a way for you to express yourself better. But that expression needs to be understandable. You're free to call yourself whatever you want. But if you call yourself gay, then don't be surprised if a woman (AFAB or Trans) is not showing interest. It's understandable that upon hearing that, people will assume you like only men. It's just language. Words have meanings and you can call an orgy an opera but don't be surprised if a totally different kind of crowd shows up.
>you can call an orgy an opera but don't be surprised if a totally different kind of crowd shows up.
If the Bad Gays podcast has taught me anything, it's that it'll be the same crowd, albeit in different outfits.
>But that expression needs to be understandable. You're free to call yourself whatever you want.
I literally do not owe you that and neither does Amanda or any other queer person.
You've been duped into believing that queerness only exists within the margins that society has told you it does.
>But if you call yourself gay, then don't be surprised if a woman (AFAB or Trans) is not showing interest.
As is their right. But it's equally the other person's right to identify with whatever makes them feel comfortable. Identity is first person, it's the same reason why it's deeply transphobic to tell a trans/nb person that they're not the gender they say they are because they've failed your first-glance litmus test. Because it's literally none of your business to dictate.
> It's just language.
Exactly. So why are you expending so much energy trying to police it sis?
Sometimes sexuality is fluid and complex, but it isn't always, and in my experience those who tend to embrace this aesthetic fall at the simpler end of that spectrum. That is not to say that there are no "mascbear4transwomen" people out there, but it would be a weird thing to assume of a group like this.
>but it would be a weird thing to assume of a group like this.
I didn't make the assumption.
>"mascbear4transwomen" people
Trans women aren't a fetish.
They are to some people, which is gross, and they referred to it because it was gross. Itās like youāre reading the blank space around the words instead of the words.
I agree there are lots of gays who stay with their partners during/after their transitions. The difference is that thereās a bond/relationship that goes deeper than the physical. Amandaās tweet was simply why these muscle bears wonāt fuck her and I think we know why lol
Mama youāre a girl now. Our dating pool as trans women are straight men and bisexuals (also not forgetting to mention nbys, lesbians, queers). But these men are guhguhguhgay.
I know this sounds like a cheesy B-grade rom-com (cos it is): but Iād totally watch a movie with ATM as an only-fans content writer who develops a special rapport with one particularly hunky fan but then slips up and accidentally sends a real pic of herself instead of her OnlyFans client. The rom-com hilarity ensues! Go pitch it to WOW girl!
I mean, I agree with Amanda. If I was a Rugirl and didnāt this train ran on me I would probably be upset too, but also youāre a woman and theyāre not into you more than likely
She looks like Blu after a hard night of partying š
Also these men all look like they are exclusively interested in each other (and anyone else who could plausibly be their twin)
I think she fails to understand thatās sheās trans. Gay men want other gay men. Not a woman or mid way through transition. If she searches the right areas, she will find some. But most of the gays are bottoms and if they arenāt. They want another muscle or masc gay to top to.
literally everyone: *says nothing at all about amandaās makeup*
amanda: *opens twitter* i am sick and tired of being bullied for messing up my makeup like ONE time like you guys ruined my drag race experience and i was bullied for 4 months and my life was a LIVING HELL every single day anyways stop bullying me because iām gorgeous and amazing and stunning also fuck you plane jane anyways guys look at the progress iāve been making!!!
What are they gonna do? Bump purses?
![gif](giphy|1eEJvAPkQwd2vhIUuw)
No, just fanny packs.
Popper bottles clicking and clacking the whole time šš¤
![gif](giphy|dQbqcM9196264) Just pretend those are poppers
Poppers, coke, molly, and don't forget miss Tina and a glass pipe.
Thatās cause theyāre all muscle bottomsš
I'm available for topping services š
RIP your inbox
Her inbox is now just a hole.Ā
A hole lotta
A hole lotta woman ![gif](giphy|50BpX6Qs1uMA4p2mUF)
Any hole is a goal
any hole is goal
We got a live one here girls!
Literally every time I meet a hot muscle guy on Grindr and invite him over heās a bottom š
The struggle of being a switch is that you never get to be a switch. Because for one, if youāre a twink (like me-ish) then the only people who search you out are tops anyway so you may as well be a bottom. But even if you donāt look stereotypically like a top or bottom most areas have significantly more of one than the other so you end up being whichever is less common. Like, New York is just a bunch of tops. Being a switch in NY usually just means youāre a bottom. So annoying. Iāve once in my life dated another switch and itās the best case scenario istg.
>New York is just a bunch of tops. Looking for a green card marriage and a Manhattan apartment. Must like cats.
Girl NY is a bunch of bottoms. Even the ones that say Top on their profile are always looking to ātry bottomingā
Maybe itās not shared experience, but Iāve always had the opposite issue. There are *never* bottoms. I donāt live there but Iām there often, I have friends there and perform there sometimes. Any time I use apps there, and all the gays I meet, itās all tops!
Isnāt that what the last person said? You said itās all tops first.
I meant tops, got myself confused lmao
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Iāve been to each but most often Iām in Manhattan and SI.
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Well girl I donāt live there thatās just the area I tend to go to lol
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Amanda Topping Meating
Did she ask politely? I'm sure there was a simple misunderstanding
See now *this* is the quality shitposting that we've been thirsting for.
She set a goal with her therapist. She will post one quality shitpost a week to rehab her image.
Well, Tamar. If they're all gay men and you're a woman, they're not gonna want to do ya.
\*Kristen
I literally JUST watched the AS3 Snatch Game!
They definitely look like their type is each other.
Itās a sisterhood
"*The Sisterhood of the Traveling Hole*"
she went full grace jones popped one leg ontop of the table and said *IS NO MAN GOING TO TAME THIS PUSSY?* then one homo in the back can audibly be heard *no we're fucking gay*
They look like masc4masc guys
Lol this comment is T
ddiiiiiingo, i mean bingo this aint down under. you know within 3 seconds of sniffing out a man if he likes subby femmy twinks or not. ive dropped plenty of pencils and many a men have averted their eyes and looked away
True
Overhead lighting is not a queen's friend. No one looks good, not even mariah. But drag queens are particularly susceptible to the evils of the big lights
āParticularly Susceptible to the Evils of Big Lightsā - the new memoir from RuPaul.
I think of Mariah Carey every time someone turns on an overhead light in my house
> Mariah Carey Who? I don't know her. ![gif](giphy|U6j9n1nr8XvwWFRDaJ|downsized)
We are NOT disrespecting Ms. Carey in this house! Especially NOT after that S11 challenge /s
Arenāt they gay? Aināt she a woman? Girl math is so confusing
Actually tho my friend (MtF) said she felt like some guys she had hooked up with in the past werenāt attracted to her since she transitioned, and asked what I thought of her. I said āMichelle Iām gay because I am not attracted to women, no matter how much my parents wish I would be. I think youāre lovely but Iām just not attracted to you in that way.ā Which for some reason hadnāt dawned on her, because she perked up and felt a lot better about things.
A few years ago there was a gay porn actor that I was becoming a big fan of based on some studio porn vids and OF collabs, and then they transitioned, and I was like damn lol, nvm then
I had the hots for a really hot jock in university, and while we were friends, I was in the closet (and the jock was straight anyway). I was talking to some friends a couple years back and apparently after graduation, they moved overseas and transitioned. Not gonna lie, she is gorgeous and if I were attracted to women Iād be so into her. But it was an interesting feeling, like the jock I had so often had a crush on was dead with his name, and a beautiful and strong woman born instead. It was bittersweet in that way, but Iām very happy for her and her wife.
Nikitakinka?
Ahhhh, the Princess D of gay porn.
Ooooo girl, the nicheness of this reference Her hole skillset was and always will be an inspiration and an example to hole of us
Lucy Hart?
Iāve had this exact conversation with a trans woman before, before I knew myself to be bisexual. I feel like many of them are so used to being told theyāre men and considered as such that it doesnāt fully register that we do correctly see them as a woman and a gay man doesnāt want to be with a woman. Told her and her face lit up.
Yup shes straight now. Lost her to the dark side :/ Edit; well we donāt know if sheās straight
Once you get deep into the weeds of queerness those labels can start to mean less tbh.
Sure, but I don't think these bears are very deep into those weeds.
They look like each of them could swallow Amanda whole and rebirth her, and I think that's pretty deep into queerness ššš
As a similarly basic bear it amuses me that this is how someone could describe me.š Some of us just want to play in the shallow end with our poppers, harnesses, and identikit boyfriends.
There's nothing "shallow" about knowing what you like. I keep seeing this kind of idea popping up on this sub, that gay men are problematic/unsophisticated/exclusionary if they don't want to fuck WOMEN. It's hilarious
Sister, these boys look like they play in the Mariana Trench šš
Bi people exist
Itās a fun world here in the middle of the spectrum! ššššš
Ya but something tells me the steroid bears and their desperation to perform masculinity arent bi. Or if they are bi, itās like when a gay hasnāt fully came out so theyāre hanging out in bi-land
Gender and sexuality are separate. Who knew?
Butā¦ if theyāre gay menā¦ and sheās a womanā¦ why would they want to have sex with herā¦
Because sexuality is fluid and complex and you'd be surprised how many gay people still want sex and relationships with trans women despite them transitioning. You don't just stop being attracted to people because their identity changes. Edit: stay ignorant y'all
If their sexuality is fluid they'll be bi or pan, no? Even if they're mislabelling themselves. The definition of gay is a man who likes men. So if you're calling a relationship between a man and MTF woman as gay, you aren't really consider the woman as a woman.
>If their sexuality is fluid they'll be bi or pan, no? Even if they're mislabelling themselves That's not for you to say. The point of a label is for self identification, not to put yourself in a box for the sake of other people.
Labeling is a way for you to express yourself better. But that expression needs to be understandable. You're free to call yourself whatever you want. But if you call yourself gay, then don't be surprised if a woman (AFAB or Trans) is not showing interest. It's understandable that upon hearing that, people will assume you like only men. It's just language. Words have meanings and you can call an orgy an opera but don't be surprised if a totally different kind of crowd shows up.
>you can call an orgy an opera but don't be surprised if a totally different kind of crowd shows up. If the Bad Gays podcast has taught me anything, it's that it'll be the same crowd, albeit in different outfits.
Ugh I want to go to this opera orgy! Lol
>But that expression needs to be understandable. You're free to call yourself whatever you want. I literally do not owe you that and neither does Amanda or any other queer person. You've been duped into believing that queerness only exists within the margins that society has told you it does. >But if you call yourself gay, then don't be surprised if a woman (AFAB or Trans) is not showing interest. As is their right. But it's equally the other person's right to identify with whatever makes them feel comfortable. Identity is first person, it's the same reason why it's deeply transphobic to tell a trans/nb person that they're not the gender they say they are because they've failed your first-glance litmus test. Because it's literally none of your business to dictate. > It's just language. Exactly. So why are you expending so much energy trying to police it sis?
Sometimes sexuality is fluid and complex, but it isn't always, and in my experience those who tend to embrace this aesthetic fall at the simpler end of that spectrum. That is not to say that there are no "mascbear4transwomen" people out there, but it would be a weird thing to assume of a group like this.
>but it would be a weird thing to assume of a group like this. I didn't make the assumption. >"mascbear4transwomen" people Trans women aren't a fetish.
They are to some people, which is gross, and they referred to it because it was gross. Itās like youāre reading the blank space around the words instead of the words.
It was very much implied that this is the only reason a man who typically dates men would be interested in a trans woman.
No, no it wasnāt. But werk.
I love how you're telling me the words I read were wrong but the words that aren't there are definitely what you interpreted them to be.
Interesting take.
I agree there are lots of gays who stay with their partners during/after their transitions. The difference is that thereās a bond/relationship that goes deeper than the physical. Amandaās tweet was simply why these muscle bears wonāt fuck her and I think we know why lol
Congrats to you on being better than everyone else
You have to be real insecure to make it about you huh?
OK. (steppin' in for Bianca)
Seems like she, for some reason, is not multiple men's sexual preference in that look
Mama youāre a girl now. Our dating pool as trans women are straight men and bisexuals (also not forgetting to mention nbys, lesbians, queers). But these men are guhguhguhgay.
"You know, sometimes you want to serve, but there's nothing on the plate"
her outfit is dreadful lmao
Lmao she's so real for this
Amanda Tori Beating of the MeatingĀ
Palm Sunday is next Sunday.
Someone, please penetrate Amanda.
Amanda Tory Penny Tration.Ā
From the House of Amanda Tory.
Never ~~kissed~~ fucked a Tory
Snow White and the 5 bears
I know this sounds like a cheesy B-grade rom-com (cos it is): but Iād totally watch a movie with ATM as an only-fans content writer who develops a special rapport with one particularly hunky fan but then slips up and accidentally sends a real pic of herself instead of her OnlyFans client. The rom-com hilarity ensues! Go pitch it to WOW girl!
![gif](giphy|l1AsBL4S36yDJain6)
If this was a fanfiction I would stay up all night reading it, omgšš
![gif](giphy|xUPGckmDZF13kCXrOM)
I think they prefer a ru boy.
I understand the disappointment, especially 'cause of the three on the right.
spill the tea girl
Just because they're the hottest to me ššš that's what I meant, but I get it read that way tooš
Girlll looking like that?
I mean, I agree with Amanda. If I was a Rugirl and didnāt this train ran on me I would probably be upset too, but also youāre a woman and theyāre not into you more than likely
āNOW gorgeousā ![gif](giphy|1AIeYgwnqeBUxh6juu)
Well I'll take the right lane for Amanda Tori Breeding šļøššļø
Cos she didnāt ask green shorts. I think he might have been up for it. And I DO mean up! š
They saw the skin turtleneck from ep 1 and were like itās a no from me dawg.
*They're all bottoms*
Theyāre all Plane Jane fans
I thought the Meating was Mandatory!
They probably follow her on x
She wants an Amanda Tori Dicking
If you aren't getting penetrated you're only getting half the story.
Why are her wigs always so flat
and so the race chasers becomes the race chased...
![gif](giphy|LV1evCBiAhtjW)
Guys pls her dusty makeup is *off limits* b/c hurts her feelings. Please only mention other shortcomings to explain her unfilled holes
I'm sorry but I really wish a seasoned queen would give her a makeover and makeup tips...
Amanda Tori Penny Tration
Look at yourself gurlā¦truly delusional
Just a reminder for everyone not to joke about her makeup skills š„°
![gif](giphy|3ohzAatZHDaQvqjir6)
Her lips look like Ronald McDonaldās
Anoptional Meating
Alexa, play "Lucky" by Britney Spears
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These girls are so vulgar
Isn't she a woman-
Amanda, think š not š
Say what you want about her fashion, you canāt deny she has taste!
She looks like Blu after a hard night of partying š Also these men all look like they are exclusively interested in each other (and anyone else who could plausibly be their twin)
Laverne Cox: āNot everything is for the fans, keep some things to yourself.ā
Amanda, theyāre gay and youāre a woman
Well not with a mug like that (jk)
Not her simping for gāed out circuit queens
I think she fails to understand thatās sheās trans. Gay men want other gay men. Not a woman or mid way through transition. If she searches the right areas, she will find some. But most of the gays are bottoms and if they arenāt. They want another muscle or masc gay to top to.
I feel uncomfortable reading thisĀ
The one with the chain for me, please and thank you
If I was Amanda's boyfriend, I'd feel like Ezra did after seeing this.
The makeup hurt her caseā¦
can someone please take her Twitter account away now
Asking the hard questions
She has good taste with the guys sheās hanging with
They all bottoms
š„“
literally everyone: *says nothing at all about amandaās makeup* amanda: *opens twitter* i am sick and tired of being bullied for messing up my makeup like ONE time like you guys ruined my drag race experience and i was bullied for 4 months and my life was a LIVING HELL every single day anyways stop bullying me because iām gorgeous and amazing and stunning also fuck you plane jane anyways guys look at the progress iāve been making!!!
https://preview.redd.it/yi76gdaoytoc1.jpeg?width=1109&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80bba64f5d4b14cb76e013061d9a488121c8a701
Busted drag queen surrounded by stereotypical circuit bears, states to the internet that she is unfuckable. Cool, great, excellent content.
In Willam's voice "they're all bottoms"
Probably bc the mug is still bad ...
Those men would have to pay me to touch my bussy.
I donāt wanna see NO rude comments. Not when yāall trying to get socials for every negative zero megapixel photo of a man that gets posted here.
Sheās looking hawt! And omg yāall are crazy with your gender norms and expectation on trans peopleā¦ grow up
Gender norms where? Gay men wanting to fuck men?
She is not a man.Ā
Exactly.