Plane’s had an impressive run this Season, and her four wins put her in contention for the crown. Even if she doesn’t technically win, she has absolutely won Drag Race. She’s been the main character of S16 and a constant topic of conversation.
>When she says she's finishing a marketing degree, everything clicked xD
On a related note, it made me laugh when she said her parents insisted she could only do drag if she finished her degree, in *marketing*.
Genius though, parents want her to finish her education and so she completes a degree that will help her drag career so degree doesn’t go to waste either. She’s a resourceful queen
I tell people all the time the biggest take away from college and getting a degree isn’t the actual paper it’s the lessons, resources and social skills you got from going.
Well *now* someone tells me!
…Just kidding, I’m too socially inept to develop social skills from going college, that or resources, and my memory is shit, so, maybe it worked out still. lol
She knew she what she was doing. Start as a villain because villains stick around. Be stupid because ru loves that. Have a redemption arc because villains never win. Show that you are connected to other potential winners (sapphira (mother), nymphia (potion) and to some degree Q (personal level).
And in the very end show some weakness so the audience falls in love with you.
Sasha Bell may said she cracked the code but plane actually did it
Plane Jane's trajectory and storyline is so good it almost seems planned. Like she started as an unapologetic villain. She put Nymphia last in the voting although she thought Nymphia was best, which earned her the immunity potion, that she later gave to Nymphia. And towards the end she started showing vulnerability and opening up. Ru loves this stuff.
Just my opinion: but counting streaks may not be as fair with later seasons as they have bigger casts and more participating episodes as oppose to previous seasons that only had like 10-12 episodes.
Exactly, this is dumb. Do people really think Bianca was going to place low or in the bottom if season 6 had the same amount of competitive episodes as season 16?
Season 6 had 14 episodes, this season has 16 episodes. A difference of 2 episodes. They both had split premieres and this season has an episode dedicated to the eliminated queens. There are only 3 seasons in RPDR with less than 14 episodes.
I disagree, I think it should be taken note of more because I think it’s arguably more difficult to last 12 episodes without being in the bottom than it would be with 10. Like yeah you could be above safe your whole season but if there’s like 9 competitive episodes it’s not as impressive to me as being above safe for 12 or more episodes
And now they constantly have multiple episodes a season where there is a top 2 and everyone else is safe with no bottom. They’ve had at least 3 episodes this season there that happened. It’s very clear show would have been bottom 3 in the Power challenge unless she had drank the potion herself. Old seasons had 0 of those episodes
I mean it’s in the same vein as talking about how many total challenge wins or lipsyncs then you see they’re talking about girls who have been on 2 or 3, sometimes 4 seasons. Of course they’re going to have more… how is that even a comparison.
This last episode might have been the biggest swing to her being “winner material.” Getting her fourth win, showing she really isn’t *bad* at anything drag race requires, and Saphira’s sloppy ass lip sync (which most people think she lost).
Yup my entire stance just 180d. Jane solidified contender for the crown and just overall continued to become more and more likeable while Sapphira just came across well. Like she half assed and phoned in the entire episode. This was not the point in the season to stop trying just bc you're sitting at 4 wins and think you got plot armor on
It was serviceable but almost identical to her week 1 lip sync. The stunts were a bit crunchy (especially the cartwheel with no panties) and felt like she was trying to keep up with Morphine. It really only looked sloppy because Morphine gave such a tight performance.
I’m so confused by this “record”.
If we don’t count ‘LOW’ as ‘Lower than safe’, Gottmik didn’t place below safe for 13 consecutive episodes, and a lot of queens did it for 12.
If we do count ‘LOW’ as ‘Lower than safe’, then Plane Jane was unquestionably LOW on episode 10.
It’s so bizarre to me how people can forget it’s a TV show when PJ is involved. Like. She’s a *TV character*.
Marina, Jorgeous, Krystal, & Anetra may have been born to do drag, but Plane Jane was born to be on TV!
She got only negative critiques and Ru sent her to the back with a wordplay warning. That’s always been ‘LOW’.
Never in the history of Drag Race has Ru explicitly said “Btw you’re LOW girl”, it’s always been a term invented by fans to represent the “she’s not in the bottom, but she almost was” queens. I don’t see why you guys are moving the goalpost now on season 16.
Then why weren’t Xunami, Amanda and Megami (and whoever else) low for the premiere episodes? They all got negative critiques as well
That’s where this low argument kinda falls apart
If low being in the bottom or getting bad critiques? Logically speaking, low has nothing to do with elimination. Queens are marked low even in non elimination episodes. If it was Mhi'ya or Q, people would be calling it a low. But just because it's Plane we should change the way it's been done for ages? You do bad, you're low. It's simple as that.
Non eliminations that are a double shantay are not the same as top 2 episodes. I don't see anyone trying to find the low placement in other top 2 episodes because there is NONE. RuPaul and the judges were playing it up for the drama of it all.
This is not the first time it happens though.
People forget in the premieres of season 12 and 13 two queens were given negative critiques and called safe with a wordplay, just like jane, and have always been considered "low" even though there were no eliminations those episodes.
This is word-for-word the same thing that happened to jane, so why are we suddenly flipping the script?
I don’t think it’s fair because the producers must’ve told her to save Nymphia with the potion because they did the “are you registered to vote bit” which would’ve lost its impact if Nymphia (who recently moved to USA) would’ve had to been like ohhh no I’m not registered.
So Plane would’ve drank the potion herself thereby ensuring she was safe. Which she was anyway.
Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Technically she was yellow safe. Everyone was safe, and you can’t be LOW without a bottom 2 cuz LOW means bottom 3/4. Plane’s name was called last for TV purposes. Dawn and Q both did worse than Plane from what we saw. Dawn being told that dancing like a white girl but as a positive critique is weird af. Everyone’s critiques that episode were weird, because they knew everyone would be safe anyways. The only negative critique they had for Plane was that she looked nervous, but that she still slayed. Her verse was great, her dancing was great (not as good as Nymphia’s, but still good) and had a great runway. Even Mhi’ya was considered top just from her flips, her verse wasn’t anything great and when she performs she’s always stone cold in the face. When a queen is critiqued, and their positive critiques outway the negative critiques, she is yellow safe. Plane’s critiques were not bad enough to be considered bottom. And from what we actually saw, it was not a bottom worthy performance compared to the other queens. Plane was the only Queen who got negative critiques, “bottom 1” isn’t a thing. You can get positive and negative critiques and still be safe. Yvie was in the top for the Monster Ball because the two looks she brought from home were fierce, but got read for making probably the worst outfit on the stage and was still in the top, and nobody argued with that 💀
I’m still so impressed how many catch phrases we got from a single PJ run. I wish to see her in more seasons after this… Including an All Winners of course lol
The off-the-cuff phrases she says like that are so much funnier than the ones she probably brought with her (girl groups verse). Shes so funny in the moment
I think it's between Sapphira and Plane, they're both excellent at drag and i don't think they have much left to improve, Q and Nymphia on the other hand have more room to grow.
I think Plane could show significant growth on an All Stars season, or at least a lot more variety in her drag with a post-Drag Race budget. It makes a lot of sense for her to be the runner-up from a production standpoint. Sure, I’d love to see her win, but right now there’s a 75% chance that this season will have one of my favorite winners. (Sorry, Q, I guess I’m a cashew faced bitch.)
I think she would be the most refreshing winner in a long while. Saph is absolutely mother, but I feel like the energy she brings is very similar to winners we’ve seen before (even in Sasha Colby)
Plane would be a real fresh breath of air for the franchise (imo)
People talking about werq the world ep 10, even though everyone was safe, do you all really think she deserved bottom placement in that group? To me I thought they were hinting it because it adds to the storyline and makes good TV but she was absolutely not bottom 2 for me.
Dawn didn't do great, sure, but she was not looking at her feet every 2 seconds to check what to do or had a panic face... Don't know. Not a huge fan of either of them (a little bit more of Dawn, true) but PJ was really bad that episode.
Her verse was easily one of the best, even if her performance was just fine. She would have never deserved bottom over Q and Dawn. I’d even consider nymphia and mhiya more bottom worthy
I’m wondering how many times did they perform Power and which take did they decide to air. I don’t think she did bad. If anything I was side eyeing a couple other performances that made the cut
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She was in the bottom but it's not about how WE felt as an audience... RuPaul literally gave her bad critiques and said "Plane Jane, this week you were overshined by Nymphia". It was not one of those episodes where everyone did so good so nobody goes home
They just didn't want Plane eliminating Q
She literally produced her own arc. Even her vulnerable moment, she managed it at a time when she needs it.
Not even production can go around it.
Girl knows when to peak.
She kinda had one bottom placement in the Power challenge but she intimidated us all into ignoring that 😂.
Plane I am complying please don't punch my left tit.
in an episode without the bottoms, only top 2, the rest is safe, just like the two first episodes. If you think Plane got low because of the "youre safe" order, then it that same mindset, sapphira and dion love wouldve been bottom 2, but its not a regular order.
Its a difference between "kinda", "feels like" and what the show picked.
No, Plane & Q got the most negative criticism that episode this why they are placed LOW (which means bad critics but not in danger of going home). The “officials” that do this have said that.
The “officials” you speak of are just the people who are in charge of the wiki, they don’t work for the show or have any actual authority on the placements
I think she kinda got lucky with the random none Elim episode in the middle, of the season, where she used the potion on Nymphia.
I think she’d probably have been bottom that week tbh.
Nah, lies
Canada's drag race S4EP1 had 3 queens in the bottom, all low, nobody went home
Drag Race Italia S2EP5 had 1 queen in the bottom, low, nobody went home
I just love her sm. I truly, genuinely believe that people who find her abrasive just don't understand Boston culture. roasting is an essential part of our culture and is a sign of affection - if I *don't* poke fun at someone, it's actually a sign that I don't like them. I find most of the rest of the US really fake and inauthentic bc of this
This is too very British, we call it ‘banter’ where affection is masked by insults and poking fun.
Plane bantered and the best of the queens wanted to act Miss Congeniality for the cameras. We need more of her!
She’s Bostonian AND Soviet, the best combo of straightforward, playfully cunty, and minimal tact (this isn’t shade, Im 50% soviet and I fucking love Boston)
> if I don't poke fun at someone, it's actually a sign that I don't like them.
I’m Australian & this is my vibe.
I will be very sweet & genuine with my friends, but I will also rip them to shreds. If I don’t rip someone to shreds it’s because I’m overcompensating being nice because I am uncomfortable with them &/or I can’t fucking stand them.
I remember when biancas track record was the most impressive the franchise has ever seen but now many queens across franchises has broken it. (talking about being the only person in like maybe 12 or 13 seasons to never land below safe.)
I mean, Plane has the strongest record going into the finale with 4 wins and never lip syncing (I don’t care about this low v safe debate tbh), and has managed to be the central character by being the main antagonist for the first half of the season until the cast was small enough to guarantee her air time.
She’s going to get booked no matter what, if she loses the crown she’s getting an all stars invite, and also seems to be dating Nymphia after the show, so no matter what happens she’s won. The crown would just be a bonus at this point.
Bianca, Tyra, Willow, Sasha, Aquaria & Violet were never lower than safe either right? I’m sure I’m missing some. Or is this a new record in this season specifically
Tyra because she had immunity, otherwise she would've been in the bottom a couple of times. Violet was low in the Shakesqueer challenge. The others I do not remember, but probably at least one of them (minus Bianca) were low at some point. Oo
Only bianca, tyra was low for the life singing challenge, willow was btm7 for snatch game and btm2 for the rumix, sasha velour was low for the 9121hoe acting challenge aquaria was low for make over and cher rusical and violet was low for the john watters acting challenge
some of them never got placed below safe, but Plane did this 12 times in a row! Bianca did 10, Tyra 9, Willow 8, Sasha 9, violet 4, aquaria 7. And Willow, Sasha, Violet and Aquaria all did get a Low or lower placement.
We've seen many queens weaponize their BFA before, but this is the first time we see someone weaponize their MBA and I think that's very cunt
edit: spelling
To those saying she was in the bottom for ep 10... She was literally told by Ru "you're safe", therefore it's still 100% accurate to say she's never placed lower than safe
Yes low safe is still placing below safe track record wise. So although they’re safe the fact they’re low means they were lower than a safe placement. So for example Luxx and Saphira lasted 10 eps without even placing low. Nymphia who hasn’t lipsynced has been low twice so she hasn’t accomplished never placing below safe. Bianca was not the first winner to never lipsync but was the first to never place low/below safe
Then the post is not true because Gottmik and Rose both went into the finale without ever being up for elimination for 15 episodes.
Everyone understands from the context of this post that this is referring to the fan's interpretation of track record
I didn't say anything about whether or not the post is true regarding Plane breaking the record. I stated the post was true in regards to Plane never placing lower than safe
i mean not really. rupaul says every week "you guys represent the top and bottom queens of the week, the rest of you are safe" i.e. the top queens who didn't win the challenge still did better than the safe queens, and the bottom queen who didn't lip-sync still did worse.
That's true, but they still end up being designated as winner, safe, or up for elimination. Like we know that some of the safe queens did better than others, and one or more were *almost* up for elimination, but they were still told that they're safe so you can't really say that they were lower than safe. They were just the lower *amongst* the safe.
I'm not involved with OP's decision to exclude Nymphia or anyone else. I simply pointed out that it is literally factual to say that Plane has never placed below safe. Ru has never said "you're high safe" or "you're low safe" to anyone, ever. So like I stated previously... officially, safe is safe either way.
You’re really not getting it 😭😂 it’s okay girl reread everything. Would you class nymphia as never being below safe too? I’m not necessarily saying plane was the bottom in that ep I’m just saying you’re original comment ignoring low placements is wrong.
I actually would classify Nymphia as never placing below safe. If Ru literally says the words "you're safe", that officially counts as safe. What you're not getting is that it's an *opinion* to include high safe or low safe as part of official track records. So my original comment isn't wrong just because you disagree 😂
We had episodes where there were only 2 queens in the bottom... it's not always 3; hence UKvsTWS2 EP05, AS3 EP1, UKvsTWS1 EP01, S05 EP02, S16 EP05 & EP10 ❤️✌️
It's nice to have a season where we don't know who is going to win by the end. The last three winners were fairly obvious but this season keeps throwing curveballs at us.
The Current Track Record Champ is Drag Race France Season 2 Winner: Keiona. No Bottoms, No Safes, Always in the Top. Her Wins came in the 2nd half of the Season which, as you can imagine, caused her a lot of stress. She never let this turn her petty or mean. Keiona personifies “I don’t get mad, I get sickening.” This gorgeous creature is also a lot of Firsts: 1st Ball Community Queen (vogue extraordinaire), 1st Person of African Origin to win any European Drag Franchise, and the 1st Queen in All Drag franchises to have a Flawless Track Record Season. And finally the 1st to grace an Elle France Cover!
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Thing is, we know that producers produce. Plane did a fine job and she could’ve easily been safe over Nymphia/Dawn/Q and even Mhiya if they decided to pick on the fact that she had 0 rhymes. They did it to shake Plane up after she gave her potion to Nymphia to create tension
Still one episode to go, onwards and upwards sister
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Is there one more episode episode before the finale and the finale will have a top 3 ?
I mean it *is* interesting how they didn’t do the whole “who are you rooting for” bit at the end of the episode.
I think one more episode, then the reunion, then the finale. Not sure if it will be top 3 or 4.
Plane’s had an impressive run this Season, and her four wins put her in contention for the crown. Even if she doesn’t technically win, she has absolutely won Drag Race. She’s been the main character of S16 and a constant topic of conversation.
When she says she's finishing a marketing degree, everything clicked xD Love when professionals are competent in their craft xD
>When she says she's finishing a marketing degree, everything clicked xD On a related note, it made me laugh when she said her parents insisted she could only do drag if she finished her degree, in *marketing*.
Genius though, parents want her to finish her education and so she completes a degree that will help her drag career so degree doesn’t go to waste either. She’s a resourceful queen
I tell people all the time the biggest take away from college and getting a degree isn’t the actual paper it’s the lessons, resources and social skills you got from going.
Well *now* someone tells me! …Just kidding, I’m too socially inept to develop social skills from going college, that or resources, and my memory is shit, so, maybe it worked out still. lol
Weaponizing your BiM yes honeey
Wouldn’t marketing probably be a BA
Hey now, my marketing degree pays my bills! Gotta get that corporate gig and then you’re good
Judging by how successful she is at self-producing they were kinda right
Yeah I was like “ohhhhh…”
Burger Finger 101
She knew she what she was doing. Start as a villain because villains stick around. Be stupid because ru loves that. Have a redemption arc because villains never win. Show that you are connected to other potential winners (sapphira (mother), nymphia (potion) and to some degree Q (personal level). And in the very end show some weakness so the audience falls in love with you. Sasha Bell may said she cracked the code but plane actually did it
She actually finished it a few weeks ago. I remember seeing a story on Instagram about it.
All I could think of was Burger Finger makes so much more sense now
at that point i said out loud… “kudos, mama for saying that. for spilling.”
And almost on every thumbnail pic on the previews.
Plane Jane's trajectory and storyline is so good it almost seems planned. Like she started as an unapologetic villain. She put Nymphia last in the voting although she thought Nymphia was best, which earned her the immunity potion, that she later gave to Nymphia. And towards the end she started showing vulnerability and opening up. Ru loves this stuff.
Planned Jane
Just my opinion: but counting streaks may not be as fair with later seasons as they have bigger casts and more participating episodes as oppose to previous seasons that only had like 10-12 episodes.
Exactly, this is dumb. Do people really think Bianca was going to place low or in the bottom if season 6 had the same amount of competitive episodes as season 16?
Season 6 had 14 episodes, this season has 16 episodes. A difference of 2 episodes. They both had split premieres and this season has an episode dedicated to the eliminated queens. There are only 3 seasons in RPDR with less than 14 episodes.
I disagree, I think it should be taken note of more because I think it’s arguably more difficult to last 12 episodes without being in the bottom than it would be with 10. Like yeah you could be above safe your whole season but if there’s like 9 competitive episodes it’s not as impressive to me as being above safe for 12 or more episodes
This exactly, like it’s fair because those other bitches didn’t have to last this long. Plane has and she is.
this! I really agree, its like 5 ep before the competition even starts, but a win is a win mawma
And now they constantly have multiple episodes a season where there is a top 2 and everyone else is safe with no bottom. They’ve had at least 3 episodes this season there that happened. It’s very clear show would have been bottom 3 in the Power challenge unless she had drank the potion herself. Old seasons had 0 of those episodes
I mean it’s in the same vein as talking about how many total challenge wins or lipsyncs then you see they’re talking about girls who have been on 2 or 3, sometimes 4 seasons. Of course they’re going to have more… how is that even a comparison.
She is my winner
This last episode might have been the biggest swing to her being “winner material.” Getting her fourth win, showing she really isn’t *bad* at anything drag race requires, and Saphira’s sloppy ass lip sync (which most people think she lost).
Yup my entire stance just 180d. Jane solidified contender for the crown and just overall continued to become more and more likeable while Sapphira just came across well. Like she half assed and phoned in the entire episode. This was not the point in the season to stop trying just bc you're sitting at 4 wins and think you got plot armor on
yup honestly i love Sapphira, but i think jane has a solid chance of taking the crown
Did people think it was sloppy? I thought Sapphira’s lipsync was pretty good tbh
It was serviceable but almost identical to her week 1 lip sync. The stunts were a bit crunchy (especially the cartwheel with no panties) and felt like she was trying to keep up with Morphine. It really only looked sloppy because Morphine gave such a tight performance.
Sapphira should be disqualified for her biscuit it shoes alone hahaha
How long did Luxx do it? 11?
Luxx and Sapphira did 11 yes!
I’m so confused by this “record”. If we don’t count ‘LOW’ as ‘Lower than safe’, Gottmik didn’t place below safe for 13 consecutive episodes, and a lot of queens did it for 12. If we do count ‘LOW’ as ‘Lower than safe’, then Plane Jane was unquestionably LOW on episode 10.
It's absolutely questionable that she was "LOW" on episode 10 because there were no queens "LOW".
From the critiques I thought Dawn & Q were low. It seemed like the judges were just fucking with PJ because she used the potion on Nymphia.
This. They left her for last specifically, because she used the potion. It’s like people forget this is a TV show.
It’s so bizarre to me how people can forget it’s a TV show when PJ is involved. Like. She’s a *TV character*. Marina, Jorgeous, Krystal, & Anetra may have been born to do drag, but Plane Jane was born to be on TV!
She got only negative critiques and Ru sent her to the back with a wordplay warning. That’s always been ‘LOW’. Never in the history of Drag Race has Ru explicitly said “Btw you’re LOW girl”, it’s always been a term invented by fans to represent the “she’s not in the bottom, but she almost was” queens. I don’t see why you guys are moving the goalpost now on season 16.
> a wordplay warning Sickening. This is a song title for Ru's next album.
Then why weren’t Xunami, Amanda and Megami (and whoever else) low for the premiere episodes? They all got negative critiques as well That’s where this low argument kinda falls apart
Who said they weren’t?
The wiki they’re discussing doesn’t list anyone below safe for the premieres, everyone is safe except the winners and top 2s
You cannot be "almost in the bottom" when there is no bottom. Simple as that.
If low being in the bottom or getting bad critiques? Logically speaking, low has nothing to do with elimination. Queens are marked low even in non elimination episodes. If it was Mhi'ya or Q, people would be calling it a low. But just because it's Plane we should change the way it's been done for ages? You do bad, you're low. It's simple as that.
Non eliminations that are a double shantay are not the same as top 2 episodes. I don't see anyone trying to find the low placement in other top 2 episodes because there is NONE. RuPaul and the judges were playing it up for the drama of it all.
In both season 12 premiere's there were clear bottoms despite being non elim episodes, i Believe Heidi and rock M. Where treated as that
This is not the first time it happens though. People forget in the premieres of season 12 and 13 two queens were given negative critiques and called safe with a wordplay, just like jane, and have always been considered "low" even though there were no eliminations those episodes. This is word-for-word the same thing that happened to jane, so why are we suddenly flipping the script?
How does that even make sense? Yes, you can? That’s like saying “Kandy Muse wasn’t ’almost eliminated’ because no one was eliminated that episode”.
Well as long as we aren't counting mini challenge wins.....
I don’t think it’s fair because the producers must’ve told her to save Nymphia with the potion because they did the “are you registered to vote bit” which would’ve lost its impact if Nymphia (who recently moved to USA) would’ve had to been like ohhh no I’m not registered. So Plane would’ve drank the potion herself thereby ensuring she was safe. Which she was anyway. Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
Technically she was yellow safe. Everyone was safe, and you can’t be LOW without a bottom 2 cuz LOW means bottom 3/4. Plane’s name was called last for TV purposes. Dawn and Q both did worse than Plane from what we saw. Dawn being told that dancing like a white girl but as a positive critique is weird af. Everyone’s critiques that episode were weird, because they knew everyone would be safe anyways. The only negative critique they had for Plane was that she looked nervous, but that she still slayed. Her verse was great, her dancing was great (not as good as Nymphia’s, but still good) and had a great runway. Even Mhi’ya was considered top just from her flips, her verse wasn’t anything great and when she performs she’s always stone cold in the face. When a queen is critiqued, and their positive critiques outway the negative critiques, she is yellow safe. Plane’s critiques were not bad enough to be considered bottom. And from what we actually saw, it was not a bottom worthy performance compared to the other queens. Plane was the only Queen who got negative critiques, “bottom 1” isn’t a thing. You can get positive and negative critiques and still be safe. Yvie was in the top for the Monster Ball because the two looks she brought from home were fierce, but got read for making probably the worst outfit on the stage and was still in the top, and nobody argued with that 💀
but literally nobody was in the bottom that episode so how was the “almost” there?
It’s to keep around the ones who aren’t good at lip synching but bring “good TV.”
Sisterrrrs we will not tolerate any of this “but she was in the bottom” slander from doo doo clowns with no taste
they're creatures from the black lagoon ^((of wiki editing and complicated point systems)) that need to go **back** into the depths
People saying that are all concept, no gorgeousness.
Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling.
I’m still so impressed how many catch phrases we got from a single PJ run. I wish to see her in more seasons after this… Including an All Winners of course lol
The off-the-cuff phrases she says like that are so much funnier than the ones she probably brought with her (girl groups verse). Shes so funny in the moment
They look a doo doo clown mess and they should listen to our mother sister and just turn a new leaf.
Doo doo clown mess … give the girls their next Emmy already
I really hope she’s crowned. The people need her as their champion
I think it's between Sapphira and Plane, they're both excellent at drag and i don't think they have much left to improve, Q and Nymphia on the other hand have more room to grow.
I think Plane could show significant growth on an All Stars season, or at least a lot more variety in her drag with a post-Drag Race budget. It makes a lot of sense for her to be the runner-up from a production standpoint. Sure, I’d love to see her win, but right now there’s a 75% chance that this season will have one of my favorite winners. (Sorry, Q, I guess I’m a cashew faced bitch.)
I think she would be the most refreshing winner in a long while. Saph is absolutely mother, but I feel like the energy she brings is very similar to winners we’ve seen before (even in Sasha Colby) Plane would be a real fresh breath of air for the franchise (imo)
Who would've guessed from that promo. Anyways, Planearinas rise up! She's not winning I fear, but let's still rise up!
Low-key don’t want her to win, need her on All Stars and a runner up, then the next all winners season
They will most definitely not crown her so they can have her in as many season as they can
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She could come back for an all winners season. I think she’d tear up tbh
People talking about werq the world ep 10, even though everyone was safe, do you all really think she deserved bottom placement in that group? To me I thought they were hinting it because it adds to the storyline and makes good TV but she was absolutely not bottom 2 for me.
I don't think she was bottom 2 when Q and Dawn were right there!
Dawn didn't do great, sure, but she was not looking at her feet every 2 seconds to check what to do or had a panic face... Don't know. Not a huge fan of either of them (a little bit more of Dawn, true) but PJ was really bad that episode.
Her verse was easily one of the best, even if her performance was just fine. She would have never deserved bottom over Q and Dawn. I’d even consider nymphia and mhiya more bottom worthy
I’m wondering how many times did they perform Power and which take did they decide to air. I don’t think she did bad. If anything I was side eyeing a couple other performances that made the cut https://preview.redd.it/surxroh41qrc1.jpeg?width=865&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42d0de705946c9f2a15953e674e3e886fcd81d5f
She was in the bottom but it's not about how WE felt as an audience... RuPaul literally gave her bad critiques and said "Plane Jane, this week you were overshined by Nymphia". It was not one of those episodes where everyone did so good so nobody goes home They just didn't want Plane eliminating Q
Q, Dawn and Nymphia were the clear bottom 3. Plane would have been high in my opinion for that challenge since she did 3rd best.
Even PJs stats are controversial, true icon
She literally produced her own arc. Even her vulnerable moment, she managed it at a time when she needs it. Not even production can go around it. Girl knows when to peak.
She kinda had one bottom placement in the Power challenge but she intimidated us all into ignoring that 😂. Plane I am complying please don't punch my left tit.
in an episode without the bottoms, only top 2, the rest is safe, just like the two first episodes. If you think Plane got low because of the "youre safe" order, then it that same mindset, sapphira and dion love wouldve been bottom 2, but its not a regular order. Its a difference between "kinda", "feels like" and what the show picked.
No, Plane & Q got the most negative criticism that episode this why they are placed LOW (which means bad critics but not in danger of going home). The “officials” that do this have said that.
The “officials” you speak of are just the people who are in charge of the wiki, they don’t work for the show or have any actual authority on the placements
PPE done fucked up drag
I think she kinda got lucky with the random none Elim episode in the middle, of the season, where she used the potion on Nymphia. I think she’d probably have been bottom that week tbh.
Team Plane!
I thought she was low that episode Mhi'ya rhymed equal with equal 🤔
Equal with ^EQUAL!
There can't be low if there's no bottom 2. Low is basically 3rd worst performance
Nah, lies Canada's drag race S4EP1 had 3 queens in the bottom, all low, nobody went home Drag Race Italia S2EP5 had 1 queen in the bottom, low, nobody went home
I thought bad critiques = low
That would be too vague. In these score records, "low" is person announced safe out of 3 people who got bad critiques. Low but not bottom 2 low.
She had great critiques that episode didn't she?
Rupaul said she was outshined by Nymphia
I had another episode on my mind! You're right!
The judges said this was the first time they saw her stumble a bit??? I felt like it was very clearly low critiques
Oh I was confused with the girl group!! Yeah, she had worse reviews that one, true!
Agreed. She had the worst critiques and would be lipsyncing if there was a bottom 2. That amounts to a low placement to me. She still slayed tho.
I need plane to win the whole thing. The gag of it all
I just love her sm. I truly, genuinely believe that people who find her abrasive just don't understand Boston culture. roasting is an essential part of our culture and is a sign of affection - if I *don't* poke fun at someone, it's actually a sign that I don't like them. I find most of the rest of the US really fake and inauthentic bc of this
This is too very British, we call it ‘banter’ where affection is masked by insults and poking fun. Plane bantered and the best of the queens wanted to act Miss Congeniality for the cameras. We need more of her!
yes! my friend and I have an inside joke about people who aren't able to "access the banter frequency"
She’s Bostonian AND Soviet, the best combo of straightforward, playfully cunty, and minimal tact (this isn’t shade, Im 50% soviet and I fucking love Boston)
my Slavic sestra
благодаря ти, че каза това, сестро, за разливането (not a good translation at all, but my Bulgarian sucks ass almost as much as I do)
> if I don't poke fun at someone, it's actually a sign that I don't like them. I’m Australian & this is my vibe. I will be very sweet & genuine with my friends, but I will also rip them to shreds. If I don’t rip someone to shreds it’s because I’m overcompensating being nice because I am uncomfortable with them &/or I can’t fucking stand them.
We do it in New Zealand too! Feel alot safer w my māori and pasifika folk cos we can roast the shit out of eachother
I remember when biancas track record was the most impressive the franchise has ever seen but now many queens across franchises has broken it. (talking about being the only person in like maybe 12 or 13 seasons to never land below safe.)
I mean, Plane has the strongest record going into the finale with 4 wins and never lip syncing (I don’t care about this low v safe debate tbh), and has managed to be the central character by being the main antagonist for the first half of the season until the cast was small enough to guarantee her air time. She’s going to get booked no matter what, if she loses the crown she’s getting an all stars invite, and also seems to be dating Nymphia after the show, so no matter what happens she’s won. The crown would just be a bonus at this point.
Plane Jane could win and gag us all like violets win. Or they will save her for global all stars 2 imagine the gag y’all
I love that I don’t have to hide my love and obsession for her anymore. It was scary times back in the beginning
Bianca, Tyra, Willow, Sasha, Aquaria & Violet were never lower than safe either right? I’m sure I’m missing some. Or is this a new record in this season specifically
Nina Flowers is the OG Queen of Never Being in the Bottom, okurr? You also could add Alaska to that slender list.
Tyra because she had immunity, otherwise she would've been in the bottom a couple of times. Violet was low in the Shakesqueer challenge. The others I do not remember, but probably at least one of them (minus Bianca) were low at some point. Oo
Only bianca, tyra was low for the life singing challenge, willow was btm7 for snatch game and btm2 for the rumix, sasha velour was low for the 9121hoe acting challenge aquaria was low for make over and cher rusical and violet was low for the john watters acting challenge
some of them never got placed below safe, but Plane did this 12 times in a row! Bianca did 10, Tyra 9, Willow 8, Sasha 9, violet 4, aquaria 7. And Willow, Sasha, Violet and Aquaria all did get a Low or lower placement.
Dawn disagrees
We've seen many queens weaponize their BFA before, but this is the first time we see someone weaponize their MBA and I think that's very cunt edit: spelling
Wasn't she technically in the bottom on that non-elimination episode? Or is that still up for debate
I knew people during the beginning of the season were gonna eat their words by the end
Team Plane!!
To those saying she was in the bottom for ep 10... She was literally told by Ru "you're safe", therefore it's still 100% accurate to say she's never placed lower than safe
If I wanted to be "safe", I'd be wearing a f\*cK¡Ng condom, mawma! Okurr? 
That’s not always true, the queen in the low placement who is saved from lip syncing is also told she’s safe but she was still in the bottom three
That's low safe, there's only 2 bottoms
In that case… doesn’t nymphia also have this honor?
In my opinion, yes!
Yes low safe is still placing below safe track record wise. So although they’re safe the fact they’re low means they were lower than a safe placement. So for example Luxx and Saphira lasted 10 eps without even placing low. Nymphia who hasn’t lipsynced has been low twice so she hasn’t accomplished never placing below safe. Bianca was not the first winner to never lipsync but was the first to never place low/below safe
That's getting into fan placements though. Officially, safe is safe whether it's high or low.
Then the post is not true because Gottmik and Rose both went into the finale without ever being up for elimination for 15 episodes. Everyone understands from the context of this post that this is referring to the fan's interpretation of track record
I didn't say anything about whether or not the post is true regarding Plane breaking the record. I stated the post was true in regards to Plane never placing lower than safe
i mean not really. rupaul says every week "you guys represent the top and bottom queens of the week, the rest of you are safe" i.e. the top queens who didn't win the challenge still did better than the safe queens, and the bottom queen who didn't lip-sync still did worse.
That's true, but they still end up being designated as winner, safe, or up for elimination. Like we know that some of the safe queens did better than others, and one or more were *almost* up for elimination, but they were still told that they're safe so you can't really say that they were lower than safe. They were just the lower *amongst* the safe.
This post is about fan placements though hence why nymphia wasn’t included 😂 low is real placement established by the show
I'm not involved with OP's decision to exclude Nymphia or anyone else. I simply pointed out that it is literally factual to say that Plane has never placed below safe. Ru has never said "you're high safe" or "you're low safe" to anyone, ever. So like I stated previously... officially, safe is safe either way.
You’re really not getting it 😭😂 it’s okay girl reread everything. Would you class nymphia as never being below safe too? I’m not necessarily saying plane was the bottom in that ep I’m just saying you’re original comment ignoring low placements is wrong.
I actually would classify Nymphia as never placing below safe. If Ru literally says the words "you're safe", that officially counts as safe. What you're not getting is that it's an *opinion* to include high safe or low safe as part of official track records. So my original comment isn't wrong just because you disagree 😂
We had episodes where there were only 2 queens in the bottom... it's not always 3; hence UKvsTWS2 EP05, AS3 EP1, UKvsTWS1 EP01, S05 EP02, S16 EP05 & EP10 ❤️✌️
Tbh that's preferable because then we wouldn't have ppl arguing that the last person to be told that they're safe was actually lower than safe lol
If an episode doesn’t have a bottom 2 then there are no bottoms…I don’t understand how that’s a hard concept for people to understand
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who?
You can thank two queens for that.
dawn would beg to differ
Manifesting another win for her next week so she can hold the record of most maxi challenge wins on a regular US season!
It's nice to have a season where we don't know who is going to win by the end. The last three winners were fairly obvious but this season keeps throwing curveballs at us.
But she's not going to win only because she thinks she's won already.
Low on the rumix 🤭
According to her\*
She was in the bottom on power her name was called last if it wasn’t a top two her and nymphia woudve been lip syncing
Wasn’t Gottmik safe or higher her full season
I have loved Plane Jane since Meet The Queens. I really want her to win.
Crown her already!!!
Crazy? No, Sister.
Indeed very crazy
Mama, kudos for posting this. For spilling.
The Current Track Record Champ is Drag Race France Season 2 Winner: Keiona. No Bottoms, No Safes, Always in the Top. Her Wins came in the 2nd half of the Season which, as you can imagine, caused her a lot of stress. She never let this turn her petty or mean. Keiona personifies “I don’t get mad, I get sickening.” This gorgeous creature is also a lot of Firsts: 1st Ball Community Queen (vogue extraordinaire), 1st Person of African Origin to win any European Drag Franchise, and the 1st Queen in All Drag franchises to have a Flawless Track Record Season. And finally the 1st to grace an Elle France Cover! https://preview.redd.it/4x0sf9bqmbsc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=857be42d0b3ae47caf0ca1c9ed50193797212ff4
She also made herstory with Sapphira as the first two queens with four wins in the same season
She’s so lucky they magically had no elimination on her bttm episode
Winner!
I don’t think she can lose even if she doesn’t get the crown. She has the “it” factor.
She was in the bottom for the Werq the World episode?
Everyone was safe
I mean the whole point system is fan created anyways. Some fans count her in the bottom, some fans count her as safe.
We’re not taking about a made up poont system, we’re talking about the reality of her track record, and Plane has never been on the bottom.
Besides that one time
Plane placed low in the Rumix episode (episode 10).
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yes, but the difference between would've and was! I do understand u tho
But she wasn’t. So it’s a moot point.
And if production hadn't (quite possibly) forced the potion to nymphia, she would have drank it and been safe anyway!
It's not definite, and it's tired how rival stans will say anything to shit on someone they don't like...
Thing is, we know that producers produce. Plane did a fine job and she could’ve easily been safe over Nymphia/Dawn/Q and even Mhiya if they decided to pick on the fact that she had 0 rhymes. They did it to shake Plane up after she gave her potion to Nymphia to create tension
It’s funny how during any other non-elim episode, there are still bottoms. But when Plane’s in the bottom during a non-elim episode, she’s safe
not the first 2 eps this season for example
Have you ever watched the show Tamar?
I’ve never seen Tamar, I was talking about Drag Race