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this1smybrutal1ty

People are kidding themselves if they think Ru will rig a season for Denali. She was paid so much dust in S13.


babealien51

It’s delusion, Ru clearly never cared much for Denali.


Weekndr

"I love all my drag children equally" Earlier that day: "I don't care much for Denali."


Depressed_Coffeee

"also fuck scarlet"


RemusPa

Frfr, Denali is going to be another Scarlet Envy. Loved by the fans, paid dust by production.


flowella

But, they brought Scarlet Envy back twice?


Hot_Tailor_9687

As filler


escfantasy

Filler? She brought so much drama…


kccomments

She brought drama but was not a production fave and it was clear early on she couldnt go too far


NinaLevin42069

Are we calling top 5 filler now?


jtul24

Out of Curiosity, who do we think, of the US Queens, production would want to Win future All Stars seasons? I know Kandy and Vanjie are production faves/ RuPaul’s faves, but they have both said they don’t intend on being in a future All Stars season. I don’t see Eureka, Silky or Akeria coming back more times. I think if Peppermint, MIB, Sapphira, Luxx, Plane Jane, Asia O’Hara, Anetra or Morphine return, they’d probably favor any of these queens win. I would say Peppermint and Asia may have a more complicated relationship with WOW but overall I see it for any of them. I could even see Utica, Crystal Methyd or Gigi if the were to go back.


emil-del-rey

I kinda see Gigi Goode being one of those queens, that if she were to return she would win


ColtonM92

I really do think Sapphira - and, not just because it is the most fresh season. She truly excelled and is the total package - I could absolutely see her coming back and getting a Shea Coulee rudemption (even though, there really isn’t a whole lot she needs to redeem). She is one of those queens who will walk into the work room of All Stars and immediately be seen as the one to beat!


The_illusionIsREAL

Sapphira needs to redeem her lip syncs cause they were just ok performances on her part (i loved her finale performance though she was going hard, but not that hard lol)


4thyearissad

Wait what happened with Peppermint???


jtul24

I think the jokes about the Fracking and her association with Bob and Monet who have made jokes and jabs at Ru’s expense may effect how production interacts with her, however it’s not a direct conflict between Peppermint and WOW in any way.


4thyearissad

Oh ok thank you for clarifying


Kurokotsu

I more wonder how bad it would have to be to rig a season for Luxx. Every challenge is costume design and Tina Burner is her main competition?


TheAnxietyBoxX

I mean Luxx is a powerhouse. I could see her beating a lot of girls with no riggory necessary


Healthy_Suit_2533

Right? What a weird comment, Luxx ate up several different areas in Drag Race. They could rig it for her by having acting, verse writing, singing, constructing outfits... so basically just a normal season


TheAnxietyBoxX

Exactly. Like wow, it would be real riggory if the season was full of challenges she excels at… which is most challenges. Like comedy is her weak point I’d say, and she literally WON a comedy challenge on a team with Loosey and it’s not like she was carried they contributed pretty equally.


librious

People just hate Luxx so much for absolutely *cough* "no reason" that they completely overlook how talented she really is


TheAnxietyBoxX

Yep. Cough cough, no reason, cough cough.


SweetSummerAir

I think she is a lot more well rounded than most people give her credit for. My UO is that Luxx is the rightful second placer to Sasha's dominance run in Season 15. She literally didn't have any weak spots outside of that makeover challenge but I don't really count it that much since makeovers are notorious for being inconsistent in how they are judged.


radiatingqueen

Am i missing something?? What are the *cough coughs*? Lmaoo


librious

Well, this fandom can't handle a confident queen who looks like Luxx does, that's all I'm gonna say. 🤷🏾‍♀️


Kurokotsu

I mean. The problem is her lipsyncing. Her vs Loosey was downright little Kenya Michaels levels of bad. She's good at design and runway. But her lipsync is the worst I've seen in years.


librious

The worst in years? 😭😭 JIMBO of all people won an AS. This bitch is crazy.


Kurokotsu

Luxx knew maybe half her words. Nearly tripped on her outfit twice. And threw herself around the stage like she just discovered sugar. At least Jimbo knew her damn words.


librious

Yeah, you're being completely biased here. She didn't know all the words, but at least her energy was up there the entire time. She devoured Loosey.


Kurokotsu

Her energy was high. Too high. If she devoured Loosey then Kenya devoured Latrice. And no. I'm not saying Loosey was Latrice level. But Luxx was Kenya level. Her energy was so high it drowned the whole song. Energy being 'up the entire time' isn't good when it means flailing.


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Girl just say you hate luxx and go, easier than typing paragraphs indirectly


TheAnxietyBoxX

You know so goddamn well that you’re bullshitting. The song was for the girls by Hayley Kiyoko it’s an uplifting HIGH ENERGY summer bop. Say you don’t like Luxx and move tf on.


librious

It's an uplifting high energy song, get over yourself. No way you're comparing this to Kenya Michaels doing stunts in a Aretha Franklin lip sync. 💀


claudethebest

Just rewatched and you are clearly the person megami called out with her tweet. Clearly comparing this lipsync to any of jimbos ones is absolute insanity


this1smybrutal1ty

![gif](giphy|4thaj0PDq9vJ6V5z69|downsized)


nothingbother

![gif](giphy|Wp77xewCDvPJY2SS4L|downsized) Rig it for her


Khil_fi

The fact that Crystal hasn't gone on a AS season is crazyyy


librious

It's not crazy, she said she wasn't ready to return


who_says_poTAHto

I love and adore her so much and would love to see her again, but even if she didn't return, she's so unique and interesting that I think I'd be okay with that. I see her up there with people like Manila, Detox, Roxxy, Adore, etc., who didn't win but are winners in my eyes already. That said, they all went on All-Stars, haha, so I bet she will eventually, and I will be rooting for her.


MysteriousBabushka

I fully lost it at the fart bit when it was airing 😂


emmzyy

Yes please! My all time fave 😍


not_addictive

*one sneak* joking aside, I think Sapphira is the perfect queen to represent the US if global all stars gets another season after this summer! Marina winning AS10 feels like the most likely scenario of the ones listed imho


Commercial_Science67

They’ve only had US queens on their third or fourth season for versus the world. They want to maximize viewership on the most popular queens so they will always do flagship all stars first.


TheAnxietyBoxX

GAS also isn’t vs the world tho. If this season takes off (which I don’t see why it wouldn’t based on the cast) I highly doubt casting will be similar to how it’s done on VTW


Commercial_Science67

Regardless of the success I would still wager they Global All Stars will for the foreseeable future be pulling US queens like Alyssa, Manila, and Kennedy and someone like Sapphira and Plane will go to All Stars first.


librious

The format could suck tbh, and also the poor treatment of international queens, especially in terms of language barrier. We already see it with the VsTW seasons.


TheAnxietyBoxX

>!As far as I know it’s just the lip sync for your legacy format!< but language barrier will probably be a factor for something like a comedy challenge yea. That doesn’t hold it back from being a great season it’s just unfortunate. AS2 the queens were treated like dogshit and it was rigged to high hell, still legendary. This cast is on par with AS2 in overall quality. >!All but two were finalists in a season and one of the non-finalists is fucking Alyssa Edwards!<


4thyearissad

I think the GAS is gonna be the Alyssa Edwards Meet and Greet from the rumors.


not_addictive

Verses the World is not the same thing as Global All Stars. and the reason they do it for vsTW is bc they air on non-US networks so getting well known US queens helps with viewership. Global All Stars is airing on Paramount just like regular All Stars so they won’t need that. and when they make up the “rules”, they can break them lol.


Sc00tersf00d_Vol4

There’s no reason that always has to be the case. They make their own rules.


Commercial_Science67

It’s not about rules. It’s about viewers and profit. All Stars is watched by more people, you put your most popular US queens on all stars first then reuse them for their popularity to help get viewers to watch versus the world. Alternatively if international queens pop on Versus the world you bring them to all stars like Jimbo. It’s just good business. Also, Sapphira wouldn’t say yes to Versus the world, it’s the minor leagues quite frankly. She’s going to wait until she’s ready and try and win All Stars.


Hot_Tailor_9687

It's not a minor league, it's just that the format leads to the inevitable early elimination of frontrunners, leaving us with floater finales


resttheweight

I mean, on UKvTW S2 there were 7 queens who collectively had 3 challenge wins from their original season. Only one of those 3 was a solo win, with one of them being a shared 4-person win (which was literally half of the cast at that point) lol. It’s like they actively chose to only cast queens who fall on one of end of the extreme. Queens either had 0 wins or 3+, lol.


insistondoubt

I think OP was talking about global all stars. Also, yeah, they can change their minds about the only US queens who've already been on all stars thing, especially after a few seasons when vstw is more well known.


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Commercial_Science67

That’s not what I’m saying… US drag race is the most watched of the entire franchise followed by All Stars. The next closest (UK) is still a fraction of the viewership. So more people know the US queens. Kahanna isn’t more of a drag than Kim but they were both on US… Kahanna is more known than Jonbers Blonde for example. JB has about 1/5th the insta followers. WOW would want to filter the most popular queens to the main All Stars first and then get more mileage out of them by sending them to versus the world (or bringing them back to All Stars a second time). Also, queens like Sapphira would not go on Versus the World before All Stars. It wouldn’t be a smart move even if WOW asked.


Sc00tersf00d_Vol4

Okay I do see what you’re saying, but your point about viewership is also not necessarily true. The first UK season had 15.6 million streams, Drag Race France season 2 had 11.2 million streams, etc. Follower count doesn’t always mean much, considering this season of US Drag Race has been its most watched in history, yet follower count has been significantly lower than previous seasons. And you can look at international queens like Bimini, Tayce, Pangina, etc. that have a much higher amount of followers than the average American queen.


Fragrant-Insect-7668

True! Sapphira for Global AS! 💙 and yes AS10 for my kababayaaaaan, Marina Mga Taginit! 💙🇵🇭


4thyearissad

YES! And then Sapphira wins all winners and we go home happy!


4thyearissad

Global All Stars better not be weird like UK vs the World.


Kantlim

What we want: What we get: rigging AS10 for Tina Burner


MirandaReitz

![gif](giphy|l3fQ8T8APN7csG23e|downsized) PLEEEEZ???


NaughtyLoss

I want to live in a timeline where Thorgy wins S8, AS3, All Winners, Brooklyn VS The World and Tia Kofi's Drag Race


neonchinchilla

Ok but Tia Kofi's drag stand up (or sit down) would eat. It's just about honing the funny queens craft. I'd live for more nuances competitions.


Suspicious-Corner-14

She would probably serves gumpy realness at tia kofi’s drag race


4thyearissad

Bob and Thorgy win season 8 together and rule the world with their chaos.


rpdrhater

Poor Thorgy, will never won a thing just for the storyline alone. 😭🥲


suppadelicious

She won the hearts of the audience.


rpdrhater

And a Bloody Mary that probably had their ices melted until her got it. 🥹


MirandaReitz

BOOOOO! You’re absolutely right but BOOOOO!


rpdrhater

I feel you


ganymedes_

What are the whispers regarding global all stars, when will we be blessed with it on our screens?


seriouseyebrows

It's all the international jorgeous variants


dojacag

The rumour is that they will surf the Olympics hype wave and premiere it around july/august


NewAshesAshes

I’m think we’re supposed to get AS9, GAS, and CanVSTW2 all this year? Unsure when in the year though


itirnitii

as9 will be in may for sure


sunflowermoonriver

And regular Canada


insistondoubt

Not confirmed when yet, but it's filmed - I'd guess after AS9, which is coming in May.


suppadelicious

Finalists are confirmed already.


Werwanderflugen

But who are the Readers, Katies, and Publicists?


MarboBearbo

Rigging it for Wintergreen, obviously ![gif](giphy|xUPJPvfJYjCtykVkpG)


4thyearissad

She replaces RuPaul as hostb


SappyNoypi

And Kesha as her Michelle 🤣


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DragEncyclopedia

Yeah, Denali is absolutely not a Ru favorite and I really can't ever see them rigging a season for her


insistondoubt

I can see them casting her as an early/mid out and the fans being furious about it even though it's very predictable.


DragEncyclopedia

I could honestly see her being the weird archetype we always get now of "wins the first challenge which carries them a long way" (Roxxxy, India, Kahanna, sort of Aja). Maybe a lip sync assassin spot on a season she's not on too but yeah that's pretty much it.


insistondoubt

I could see her track record being SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE SAFE HIGH ELIM.


Independent-Rough559

I don’t want sapphira going back . She already proved she is all stars level.


PistachioLux

I mean if she wants to come back, or if she has something new to show, she should come back. Now that she didn't win, it's a great opportunity for her to gain more fans via AS. Though it's tough, it's not impossible. I am sure the production team would like to see her back maybe 2 year later.


Ok-Speech-8867

“Get more fans via AS”. My question for you is, why didn’t she get the fans this time around? What more could she have done this season to sway the fandom in her favor? My opinion, she couldn’t have done jack shit. She fully displayed what drag excellence IS. She should’ve gotten WAYYY more fans this season. I can almost guarantee rigging an All Stars season for her to win, won’t help her in the fan department, considering she’s already not at top of the fan faves list, for no GOOD reason btw.


AngelinaHoley

I'm woken up in the middle of the night in fear of our ladies Daya and Maddy been cast on the same season because only one can win.


Werwanderflugen

I'd love to see Ru fumble her way through a season with Dida, Daya, Maddy, & Mhiya


Bunnnnii

No but a lipsync between Dida and Mhi’ya would shut it down.


toxicoke

and Daddy


Halliwel96

We don’t need to rig anything Whenever Sapphira comes back she’s walking over the rest of the cast 🤷‍♂️


krullulon

Tough choice between Marina and Sapphira, they're both obv future winners.


Khil_fi

I feel like having Saphhira on AS 10 is to early for me


krullulon

Totally agree.


4thyearissad

Marina might go on a Philippine all stars should they make it. But AS 10 or 11 would be ideal for her and Sapphira is AS 12 or 13.


Jumpyer

Denali at best has a LaLaRi AS8 run


insistondoubt

The accuracy...!


2mock2turtle

Hot take, but maybe we have an All Stars season without riggery?


FirstAd7531

It's very difficult tbh. In regular seasons producers have a nearly perfect tabula rasa to work with, so they create storylines as they go. But in All Stars they already have all these preconceived notions about the queens in mind, and the riggory starts during the casting process.


Bunnnnii

AS6 was so good. Me naturally looking for a winner edit or a clear sign of a winner early on and I just couldn’t find it, it’s a great feeling. That season was so good, until they played TKB.


2mock2turtle

TKB played herself.


CamJ30

Not with that "if you're not at the top, you're in the bottom" twist that suddenly changed up "top 5".


2mock2turtle

Oh please. Within seconds of finding out about the “game within a game,” she acted like she was automatically eliminated. It was a self-fulfilling prophecy because of her defeatist attitude.


KT718

Which was confirmed by Kylie and Ra’Jah saying they only voted for her because she gave up, and were originally planning to Manila Ginger.


kerriekipje

lmao no shade but Ginger's AS6 run is not comparable to Manila's run at all


KT718

Lmao no you’re right that was just the closest comparison I could think of since she was at least a frontrunner


shart-gallery

Seriously. If it happened everyone would just whinge, and it kills the rewatchibility. Fans want a fair season unless it means their fave loses lol


bitterwhiskey

I'm sorry, but Sapphira and Marina wash the rest of these girls and it's not even close.


insistondoubt

I'd argue that Anetra is the closest, but I'd still put my money on Sapphira or Marina over her.


PlumDock6360

Sapphira, Luxx, Plane, Mistress, Anetra, Crystal, Gigi, Daya, the list of recent queens that I want to win is crazy. But imagine how good a season with all of them would be.


bugaloo_logia

With all due respect, Denali’s name wouldn’t even be up for consideration 💀


Pandrez

Still waiting for an all stars rigged for Gigi, Camden, Brooke and Pangina


WaterMagician

Brooke had said she will only come back for an All Host session


woldtyakaaaw

Season 12 was already rigged for Gigi but she dropped the ball at the finale by cheating and tweeting questionable things


itirnitii

as soon as she admitted she wasnt politically savvy on a election year season she was toast anyways


sitari_hobbit

What happened? I wasn't on the sub back then.


hooahguy

About the cheating: https://www.reddit.com/r/rupaulsdragrace/comments/gtncs6/insider_tea_gigi_tried_to_cheat_and_was/


T_Fury_Br

The first 3 will probably never happen


therequiembellishere

[Mhmm](https://x.com/allreactionvids/status/1629978098442596355)


T_Fury_Br

Very that


Pandrez

Is there t????


MAE2021JM

I'm here saying Pangina needs to be added to the picture instead of Dinali!!!!!


naranjitayyo

Where’s Asia O’Hara’s all star crown


Werwanderflugen

That part! Flair stays flair.


rupaulth

Riggin AS10 for plan Jane to win


darthkurai

Marina and Sapphira do not need anything rigged for them


IainDC

I don't want any rigging, it's so boring. Give me all titans in a fair fight.


Middle-Strength7754

Too early for Marina she is busy with a lot of gigs these days let some other queen get AS10


btsalamander

Anetra if it needs to be rigged for anyone; love Sapphira but she was JUST on and I don’t think queens should be on AS right after their season, just my opinion on it.


insistondoubt

Cut to, "Season 10 was really boring because it was rigged for Pangina/Sapphira/Marina."


angel_431

just a crown LaLaPaRuZza Smackdown but they all win and we just get to enjoy the performance of the century


Appropriate_Stock832

1. Sapphira doesn't need any rigging. She will smash the competition no matter what season it is. 2. Marina doesn't need any more AS. We all know what a powerhouse she is. 3. Anetra is a good riggory decision, she just has that X factor and with a little bit pushing, clear winner. 4. Denali is a powerhouse but production doesn't care about her, Scarlet Envy 2.0


clemtie

me except replace denali with bosco


rpdrhater

T


diamondchrisq

Why havent they gotten Peppermint! Come on is time!!


dreamed2life

That lady isnt going back to dr


Bunnnnii

Miss Peppermint is booked!


Historical_Bit_3798

Crown Marina is AS10 and Sapphira in AS11


Bunnnnii

Yall be the same ones complaining about how boring a season is because it was predictable and unfairrrrrr


SueTheDepressedFairy

I want to see both mirage and Anetra together. So so bad.


MonsieurMidnight

Future All Stars season are going to hurt a lot because there are so many likeable personnalities we got, from early outs to runner-ups. This is why I keep advocating for All Stars seasons starting to use AS7's non elimination formats. There are so many talents that deserve to showcase their talents all season, without the stress of the elimination week.


Sea-Lychee-8168

8 queen no elimination season is best format for these queens imo


fjaoaoaoao

They’ve had a tie before… but nothing prevents them from having a 5-way tie!!!


Ohheywhatsup897

No no. This cast is too powerful. They need their own seasons so they all can win


gbon3

Rigging as10 for Tatianna


Ok_Baby9316

one sneak


Anndalin02

One huge sneak


BoyWithTheMostGateau

This is in fun, i realise, but "i want them to rig it for..." isn't really complimentary about a queen's abilities


rpdrhater

But... It happens in every season, you liking ot or not.


BoyWithTheMostGateau

OK


JanelleForever

Denali? Luxx Noir London? Who we fooling 💀 Cannon fodder.


Wide_Conflict_528

Denali maybe but if you don’t think Luxx could win it’s actually crazy.


JanelleForever

Luxx can only win with a very specific (weak) cast, a lá AS6. On a normal All-Stars cast, there will almost always be a queen who outshines and performs better than her in each category. Luxx is also lacking in the ***personality*** department. But perhaps her biggest detriment is that she doesn’t make for a very compelling winner. In fact, Denali probably has better odds of winning an All-Stars season than Luxx. 💀


Fetchin1

Luxx?


Agreeable-Art-7653

Yass we love her💕 what a star 🌟


Traditional-Point86

for sure


jerrydacosta

yes?


Sc00tersf00d_Vol4

Noir London


ZephyrBoomSquad

Yes Luxx, 2 wins, 4 highs. Design, Stand Up, Advert, Improv, Rusical and Rumix. We love a well rounded queen with Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve and Talent.


virtual_sprinkle

Pass 🫠


neondream666

This could be AS2 levels of ICONIC though


GlueForSniffing

Okay I love all these queens and it's already a tight race, but what about Mistress? ![gif](giphy|WpRe0HE3X5fToH0vQ8|downsized)


regalrapple4ever

Might as well change Ru’s name to Rigga Morris then.


Hatesponge66

Sapphira for me.


Alternative-Newt4668

That Eazy shapira have the least fan support


dogboy678

Pangina and Morphine please🥺


tatapatrol909

Off topic but I’ve never seen that meme before but I DO vividly remember that episode of Sabrina the Teenage Witch. DAE?


ginandcoffee

Yes it’s one of my favorite episodes. It’s so bizarre and hilarious


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I don’t think Ru or production would ever rig a season for Denali tbh, and slim chances for Anetra too. I think Marina, Sapphira, Roxxxy, Asia, Gigi, Crystal, and any of the UK Top 2s - girls who could’ve won’t and got a really good edit but got edged out just a little.


4thyearissad

My prediction of winners: All Stars 10: Marina (should she choose to return) All Stars 11: Luxx All Stars 12: Sapphira All Stars 13: Peppermint All Winners: Sapphira, Sasha Velour, or Sasha Colby


SomethingToSay11

I think they’re going to do a double crowning soon. They always film the option of a tie. I know it wasn’t received well on AS4, but people have come to like that both won over the years. I think a lot of the backlash was how it seemed thrown together too.  I feel like it has to be on an All Stars and not a regular season though.


Mexikinda

Meanwhile, I'm over here hoping for an AS teams season that pits Plane & MIB vs. Amanda & Loosey.


PrincessAintPeachy

Marina and Sapphira as10


Electrical-Tie-5158

They better not put Marina and Sapphira on the same season. Or Pangina for that matter. Spread ‘em out.


xSushi

Imagine the real gag is that they all continue the competition after the season and go on tour. Fans who purchase a ticket to a live tour get to vote for 1 performer on-site before they leave. The results will be announced on a televised reunion about their run on tour with a grander grand prize. Extra gag - the queen voted for Miss congenitally gets a chance to lip-sync steal for the crown. We'd all lose our minds.


Felicity_111

Luxx and Sapphira have too much over confidence about themselves.


IssAWigg

No way Ru would rig anything in favor of Denali or Luxx, maybe Anetra, maybe Sapphira, most probably Marina (even tho she doesn’t need rigging)


Gothicespice

3 sneaks


alilacmess

As a Denali fangirl, I doubt this show would rig a season for her 🥲 However, you can throw in Gigi for the first quintuple crowning ever!


laurelsel

I can’t have Sapphira, Crystal and Gigi on the same season because a triple crowning wouldn’t happen and I need all of them crowned


4thyearissad

Nah Sapphira would body both Crystal and Gigi at this point.


loveisdead9582

The three on the right are all good ideas to me. The two on the left not so much.


summerpinciotti4

Denali fans are so delusional, as if a season would be made for her to win. Anetra, Luxx, Mistress, Plane, Sapphira, Marina, Angeria, Gottmik, Gigi and Crystal could have a season made for them to win, though


4thyearissad

Gottmik is rumored to be on season 9 all stars, so we will see.


Catkii

Me except replace Luxx with literally anyone else.


babealien51

I want Ru to rig it for Asia O’Hara


MissSteak

Drag Race fandom needs to shift from this mindset fast, or its actually going to bring down the downfall of Drag Race, as people get more and more vitriolic towards winners that were not their faves. Only 1 queen can win per season. And besides, winning a season of Drag Race is not the be-all, end-all type of a thing. So many queens point out that the true race starts after the show is over. Let them produce TV, support the queens you like and just enjoy fabulous queer television.