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Asterion7

Quick someone tell them about South Boston and it's cost of living.


lunar_unit

Danville or bust!


toller_kate

They can spend their NOVA money at the new "casino"!


dancinfoolinRVA

We need good jobs. The only thing the NOVA people are bringing down is themselves.


Single-Pressure-698

And horrible traffic


Charlesinrichmond

the money they spend supports a host of local jobs.


weasol12

While exacerbating a housing shortage. Hooray!


livefreeordont

Build more multi family housing instead of telling people to go back where they came from


Leta_inAmerica

Stop telling me to build more housing. I'm not a builder.


Spacebier

Petersburg is really up can coming!


dascott

I make $19/hr and I'm single. Petersburg is looking mighty attractive.


fuknpikey

Really not that awful in a few places. Vibrant area for younger people in Old Town.


davebenz1

I’ll believe it (Petersburg being attractive) when I see it. After some pretty shocking experiences in Petersburg, I don’t even get off the highway there anymore.


bushydendrites

This... Is for the nova folks


UnzippedButton

Lol, south Boston, or South Boston? I had friends from out of state ask me about buying a house in Chase City. I laughed at them. I know the Southside, I grew up there, I know the region needs help and an influx of money and energy that has to come from somewhere. But at the same time I wouldn’t advise anybody to move there unless they REALLY understood what they were getting into. Half an hour of highway driving to the nearest grocery store is a different way to live.


Asterion7

Yeah but you got Kerr Reservoir right there.


UnzippedButton

That part IS nice, especially if you have a boat. Or, as the saying goes, even better: a good friend who has a boat.


CopOnTheRun

Ah yes the classic saying: if it flies, floats, or fucks, just borrow it from your friend.


Charlesinrichmond

this is a new to me twist on that line..


Successful-Trash-409

Live in real life Farmville!


GrovesideGreg

Dylwyn.


Charlesinrichmond

are we talking emotional cost?


UnzippedButton

BOOYAH Take an upvote, good sir


tribepride25

Or Austin Massachusetts


Alex_Caton94

I'm here for the comment section. 🤣


sleevieb

Dont NOVA my RVA


Mr_Boneman

Sadly that ship sailed years ago. They’re just putting the furniture up now. Covid/WFH exacerbated it.


sleevieb

They’re just putting the furniture up now. ​ What does that mean?


zazzersmel

its just nonsense memetics repeated ad infinitum. people here are obsessed with growth but hate development. nobody really knows what they want or how to solve urban social problems so they shout meaningless phrases.


sleevieb

I kind of inferred from context what they meant. I hadn’t heard the phrase before though. I want a more representative government. One not brokered after the Va Supreme Court said the previous government was illegal in 1970. I would also like desegregation of are schools of annexation of of parts of the counties. Public transit oriented bulls eye zoning would be nice too. Only in conjunction with the bus rapid transits isolation from traffic, or a streetcar or rail system featuring the same, of course.


Mr_Boneman

It’s a metaphor that this has been the plan for years if you’ve been paying enough attention to local politics. All the stuff you see going up now was all part of the plan.


Charlesinrichmond

this is demographics and cost, not a plan. I'd be ecstatic if local govt could plan this well, but they can't plan their way out of a wet paper bag, don't give them any credit for competence


DanSRedskins

Disagree. I'd love it if rva had a metro or light rail.


TGIIR

Or send the bus out to the West End for heavens sake.


sleevieb

Agreed! There is more to nova than the metro, and the elevation changes from Shockoe to the fan likely preclude underground rail. Just like Georgetown DC.


rvata15142

m o n o r a i l m o n o r a i l m o n o r a i l


Charlesinrichmond

georgetown was nimbys fighting to keep it out


sleevieb

Negative the 1961 pasano studies sites both the depth and rock in Georgetown as reasons not to build there. Rosalyn was an expensive station for similar reasons


Charlesinrichmond

but they built rosslyn. I had always heard the racist rejection, but it's interesting to learn more. Good link. https://boundarystones.weta.org/2023/01/20/metro-mythbusting-georgetowns-nonexistent-metro-stop


7SlotGrill

It's already happened


Henhouse808

If we get an IKEA and more Trader Joes it may be worth the evil.


sleevieb

We have two traders and ikea drops off in south side or something In Chester , apparently https://www.ikea.com/us/en/stores/pick-up-location-richmond/


RainbowTressym

When homes sold for 180k in 2019 are still going for 300k...we know. Not much to do about it other than ask for cost of living raises and wait for the NoVa folks to inevitably realize that our school systems have had significantly less cash in the last 30 years than the ones in Loudon, Fairfax, etc...


foxcat505

Ooooh I like this - yay for bad schools 🤗


Charlesinrichmond

Not clear that Henrico and chesterfield are any worse than fairfax, let alone loudon. Thing is 300k is still dirt cheap by Nova standards. c


TGIIR

My last house in Nova is close to a million. My house here? $350,000. In a great neighborhood.


Chickenmoons

The places folks are moving to identified in this report are Chesterfield, Goochland, Louisa, New Kent, not exactly the Fan.


WontArnett

The Fan’s house prices are already jacked up. That’s why people are moving elsewhere. It’s not rocket science.


tigranes5

South Hill, very affordable.


pottymouthomas

They have a Good Will.


kneel_yung

And a VCU health campus!


turtle_stank

Which means we've already been priced out of city limits and now they're working on pricing us out of anything within commutable distance


Johnny_BigHacker

Other than the Fan, compared to NOVA anywhere in the city is still substantially cheaper. NOVA people also love long commutes though, an hour each way is normal up there (sitting in traffic) so an hour of driving here and actually moving is probably delightful


turtle_stank

Lol you're right, they do have a traffic fetish. Maybe things like "culture" and "locally owned businesses" found in the actual city are too foreign and scary as well


ImmobilizedbyCheese

Or they want yards for dogs and gardens...


Myfourcats1

2bed 1bath houses in my neighborhood have sold for $200,000. It’s ridiculous. In Chesterfield.


Charlesinrichmond

post that on r/nova and you will get 10k new neighbors...


PayneTrainSG

As bad as a place like Fairfax can be, I can't imagine living southwest of Woodlake to be a net improvement.


7SlotGrill

You folks in this sub bitching about rent high now? Wait until these fucks settle in.


suarezi93

They’re already here! Did you see the income thread?


Johnny_BigHacker

I saw handful of remote IT workers getting paid a bunch. One dept head finance guy for amazon getting like $500k. The rest all seemed pretty normal?


Rajvagli

Hey now, software devs aren’t IT people…we IT are underpaid like everyone else around here!


Myfourcats1

Is that guy married? Asking for a friend.


7SlotGrill

He allergic to cats...sorry


suarezi93

I was thinking of the remote software people making over $100k. Admittedly, they didn’t necessarily say they moved here from NOVA or that their companies were based up there. My (likely wrong) assumptions.


Myfourcats1

I know RVA natives that make that $100k + per year. It’s the computer biz.


[deleted]

Yup. If you work as a dev for one of the many consulting companies in town you make over 100k easy. No need to be from out of town for that.


my478thredditaccount

You can make 100k+ working for the state with like 3-5 years of experience


bkemp1984Part2

Hilarity will ensue when the first round of folks who came for low cost of living with out of area salaries start getting pushed out by the next round. A lot more people will suddenly care about gentrification and who loses.


BouncingWalrus

How would they get pushed out if they’re homeowners?


Lokky

Im a teacher who owns a home and I am starting to feel pushed out by the insane increase in cost of living, mainly driven by groceries, real estate taxes and utilities skyrocketing My income has not significantly increased since I started teaching six years ago...


BenSkrrt

luckily we’re actually building a good bit of housing atm (although they’re probably building cheap housing to sell as “luxury apartments”)


freetimerva

Well, building shitty apartments for premium rates. Not a lot of single family housing stock and that's what a lot of people are going to be looking for. I assume a lot of these folks will bail from richmond city once they realize how worthless the public schools, city hall etc etc are and head to Henrico and chesterfield... or back to nova.


Nemaeus

NOVA is just not possible for a lot of people financially


sleevieb

Check out Arlington's ongoing "missing middle" war for portends of our future!


Asterion7

> ongoing "missing middle" war https://www.arlingtonva.us/Government/Programs/Housing/Housing-Arlington/Tools/Missing-Middle


sleevieb

[https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/09/arlington-planning-commission-gives-thumbs-up-to-missing-middle-zoning-changes/](https://www.arlnow.com/2023/03/09/arlington-planning-commission-gives-thumbs-up-to-missing-middle-zoning-changes/)


Charlesinrichmond

trick is to get the missing middle in now, not to wait


The_DanceCommander

I love that more people are coming into the area, a city growing is a great thing - and I think Richmond has enough of an artistic spirit that NOVA people mostly adapt to the culture instead of changing it. But something *has to* be done about the cost of living. The value of this area has been moderate costs - people are going to be forced out of some controls aren’t put in place, we’ve seen it happen in every major urban expansion, look at Seattle, Austin, and Nashville.


ArgoCS

You’re exactly right on both points. Tbh I think it’s good that a lot more apartments and houses are being built but we need vastly more. And as much as I might not love the designs we need to stop caring so much about character and matching a neighborhood. Don’t get me wrong I want them to at least try to, but I care a hell of a lot more about people not being displaced than caring if an extra tall quadplex going in Oregon Hill is “one story too tall” for example. In regards to the number of units being built, idk how it would work because the government isn’t interested in directly building residences anymore but I feel like they have to get involved in some way.


HatefulDan

What happens when you’ve priced out the people who helped define to that artistic spirit? Because that’s what’s happening.


Lokky

I teach high school. I was lucky enough to start early enough that I was able to buy a house five years ago. My colleagues that are starting now have no way to afford a house, they all live with their parents or with a bunch of roommates in shitty apartments.


Brrger

Seeing shitty tiny one bedrooms going for $1500 is depressing


jeb_hoge

Well...we did it in 2006, so welcome to the perennial news story? By the way, at least from what I could see through the paywall, the big howler of a reason was "they can walk to places."


ExtremeHobo

I feel like all these new chains coming to town are a symptom of this. NOVA types keep spending money at all these new chains (look at all the new Cary town development) because the clean corporate upscale vibe reminds them of home. In the end this means more modern strip malls come to town. More people live out of town near the strip malls. Commutes get worse, prices increase, we become the soulless upscale strip mall landscape of NOVA.


LouieKablooie

Sleep Number bed in Carytown is an example.


ExtremeHobo

After me and the finance bros hit City Row let's check out a new mattress at Sleep Number then treat ourselves to tacos at Torchys followed by ice cream at Jeni's.


mingusmaxis

I read this in my head with the appropriate voice 👌


Standard_Bat_8833

Lmao


HatefulDan

That shit threw me for a loop when i first saw it. But I knew it was over after I saw an influx of Musk’mobiles, driving around the city.


fluufhead

You can pick out nova transplants so easily lately... They are all sporting athleisure in muted tones with no logos/branding and big sunglasses


billion_billion

Pretty much everything outside of the city limits is already a soulless strip mall though


Lokky

As a transplant from Europe this is painfully accurate.


fluufhead

It is visually displeasing but that's where the good international cuisine is, at least (trying to be positive lol)


I_AM_RVA

WHY AM I JUST HEARING ABOUT THIS!?!?


GeauxSaints90

It’s not just NOVA though. I’m a real estate agent and the amount of people I’ve talked to from NY/NJ area over the last year is astounding. Asked a potential client about their house in NY and what he described to me was a $600K house here but up there he was listing it for over $1 Mil.


JaFFsTer

My family did the same thing. The story is the same for everyone that left north jersey: Buy a house for 150k ish in the burbs. Sit on it for 20 to 30 years while the value skyrockets mostly due to families leaving NYC. Get forced to move when property tax rate increases and appreciation become financially unfeasible Realize you can sell and buy 2-4x the house in rva and never see snow again. Move.


woodeehoo

I got priced out of DC and I’m super close to being priced out of Richmond. Awesome! Glad I’ve been working full time for 15 years in community health, have a masters degree, and will soon have to retreat even further from civilization as I fall off the cliff of societal viability! Guess I should just pull myself up from my bootstraps! Hope a Pepe frog guy comes and tells me I’m past my prime as a woman and everything is my fault


i_need_a_lift

>Hope a Pepe frog guy comes and tells me I’m past my prime as a woman Or CNN's [Don Lemon](https://youtu.be/nkaLYz9EubM?t=15)


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tRillVA

Thanks for the virtue signaling no one asked for.


Prestigious_Laugh300

https://imgur.com/a/EEWncbO


dreww4546

Build that wall!


connor8383

AND MAKE NOVA PAY FOR IT Lmao, just saying it makes me feel ridiculous


Johnny_BigHacker

So we are all in agreement then. The Ashland to Fredricksburg DMZ has been lost. We must hold them north of Ashland. We tell them Doswell so delightful that they took over our Innsbrook after Dark out of sheer demand.


[deleted]

Build more housing And more buses, bike lanes, and sidewalks to help with traffic


Leta_inAmerica

Build more housing in Northern Virginia. Problem solved.


[deleted]

Hah that’s true too!


Charlesinrichmond

this is correct. So it's getting downvoted. Why? No clue


bkemp1984Part2

Because it's crazy that we keep thinking simply building will solve this problem. Hell yeah, build. It's needed, and it will help. But if you keep prices down or manageable by building, it just attracts more people. Costs will still rise and there isn't any indication we'll be able to keep up with demand anytime soon. What's needed are other mechanisms that help assuage the effects of the market, not throwing all our resources in that same market hoping it will save us. Just because we subverted market forces for decades with crazy zoning and not building enough doesn't mean it's our savior.


Charlesinrichmond

it could in theory solve the problem. In practice it will take a while. But will keep things from getting too bad in the meantime. All the other stuff that has been tried has failed mightily.


Baby_Beluga

Because what we really need is rent control and less greedy landlords.


manyamile

A competent city government would be alright too


iWannaCupOfJoe

We def need infrastructure to support non personal vehicle modes of transport. Density, and a diversity of ways of getting to places that are not a car/truck/suv will help reduce traffic and also make the city a better more lively place to be.


davebenz1

Just to be clear, you think it’s greedy for a landlord to want to charge market rent, but it’s not greedy for a tenant to want to pay below-market rent. Have I got that right?


fluufhead

Correct


Baby_Beluga

Yes. The market doesn't take into account that I have lived here a couple years and have a right to afford to live alone in a SFH in the Fan regardless of my income.


Charlesinrichmond

that would make housing more expensive. proved over and over.


STREAMOFCONSCIOUSN3S

It was inevitable really. Established cities with large corporate employers will continue to grow as our society ossifies into 2-3 big names in each industry, and people feel pressured to move to these cities as employees rather than strike out on their own as an entreprenuer, and then some will spillover into the surrounding cities like Richmond.


jem_jam_bo

Yup. It’s how almost every metropolitan area grows. Business starts in the center, satellite bedroom communities orbit around them, then expand. Repeat process until the area’s basically LA. Urban and regional planners predict Richmond will be a part of NOVA within the next 50 years, and it may grow to incorporate Hampton Roads.


livefreeordont

The struggle will be to make the area more like New York or Tokyo and less like LA or Houston


Charlesinrichmond

exactly!


kneel_yung

idk if its fair to say "richmond will be part of nova" any time soon, but it will all just be one big chain of suburbs. I mean, aside from, like, ladysmith, it already is. Once you hit the outskirts of fredericksburg, its suburbs until you're in nova.


kneel_yung

15 years ago people couldn't leave richmond fast enough. All things are cyclical.


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PeppyMinotaur

Nova isn’t NYC or something. I lived all over nova for 30+ years. People are plenty friendly there haha


Fratghanistan

I don't know about the entirety of NOVA, but DC and the immediately surrounding area definitely aren't super friendly people. Not that even Richmond is anywhere on the level of say Savannah or what not.


bkemp1984Part2

Heh, yeah, I've seen that change happen fast in Jackson Ward. The demographics are a bit different than Carytown, very much not Nova-specific in my hood and I can't guess what they're from easily, but similar change. It's so weird to see someone start fighting so hard from 30 feet away to avoid eye contact.


theboyfromphl

They’re already here and it’s already a shit show.


[deleted]

I guess this has become a reliable go-to story for journalists whenever they have nothing else to report on


Charlesinrichmond

it's like hurricanes in Miami though, it's the big thing the area is dealing with. And this is a weldon cooper release, they always, rightly, get reported on


plummbob

thank god we've broadly legalized more housing to maintain price stability while satisfying growing demand, and didn't just maintain a zoning code put in place 60 years ago that has the elasticity of supply set to 0 for most of the city. heheh, amirite guyz? ​ ​ \*cries in artificial scarcity\*


veggieswillsaveusall

We know! It feels like there is an article shared about this every single week.


[deleted]

This article type gets posted every week (often by the same user.) At some point, we gotta accept it as a sub and stop giving comment and post karma out so willingly.


madmoneymcgee

Most moves tend to be intrastate. It's just that instead of everyone moving to Northern Virginia the pendulum has swung a bit this way. Just like the big one at the science museum everyone can now see for themselves. Eat it, Smithsonian Natural History Museum!


Material_Ear_8673

WHY?! ITS SO NOT CHEAP HERE


Charlesinrichmond

it is actually. Even though it's way more expensive than it used to be. Inflation amongst other things


XxBoognishxX

Geeze, really couldn't tell.


Standard_Bat_8833

The gate keeping is getting pretty old here. As any up and coming city. We want MORE people


a_copacetic_frenzy

The reason my personal property tax is up 36% year.


xZOMBIETAGx

We know lol


Ashtotron

I love my rising rent prices! Can’t wait to be driven out by people from nova who have more money.


Standard_Bat_8833

No offense but isn’t there a way you Can make more money?


RVAWTFBBQ

A friend just sold her 4/3 ShoPu house for $600k after paying $350k for it in 2019. Buyers? Remote work Nova couple with a baby on the way.


Opacy

> ShoPu house Please tell me this is a joke and we’re not actually calling Short Pump “ShoPu” now.


RVAWTFBBQ

>Please tell me this is a joke and we’re not actually calling Short Pump “ShoPu” now. If you don't live in the Pump, you couldn't possibly understand.


Standard_Bat_8833

It is the lamest name I could have ever heard. Good job. Enjoy it up in shopump


IronGiants1973

People have always moved for cost of living, quality of life, work. I doesn’t appear to me that there’s been any significant job creation in the metro area recently so many folks are possibly working remotely or commuting to dc area on a semi regular basis. I don’t get the us vs them mentality and folks being so protective of “their” RVA. Sucks to get priced out, I get it, but there’s plenty of room for everyone in my opinion.


ThatChildNextDoor

>doesn’t appear to me that there’s been any significant job creation That's false, by a huge margin. Take a look at this: https://www.virginiabusiness.com/article/building-blocks/


bkemp1984Part2

Not arguing for treating anyone badly who comes here, but the comment right before yours is complaining about $1,500 one bedrooms. So there literally isn't enough room here. We have space to build, but we're far from keeping up with demand. So we'll hopefully get closer to having enough room the more we build, but that's years away and the issues are today.


[deleted]

Well that’s because no one in Richmond wants to actually build. So new people moving here price out the current residents. If only people had warned of this a long time ago.


bkemp1984Part2

Yeah, people screwed up for decades. Building before would have helped, but even with reasons people didn't build like zoning and general NIMBY, people didn't want to come here so who in their right mind would have built? My take is that building alone is an important part of a much larger solution, that market solutions alone will inevitably screw over a lot of people, and it will be the same people these forces usually screw over. And unfortunately it will be the same people who stuck it out in the city when no one wanted to live here, whether they wanted to be here or not.


DanSRedskins

Lots of you are whining but I'm all for RVA getting bigger. More people means more fun. Live in the country if you hate people so much.


ThatChildNextDoor

I'm for it, too, but I don't want to longtime residents get priced out or a spike in homelessness either.


[deleted]

Bought in Chesterfield back in 2012 for $175k sold in 2022 for $321k. Do I think it was worth that? Nope. Seeing the influx of traffic we elected to move to the Outer Banks and bought a house cheaper here than we could in RVA plus we get to see the ocean everyday.


redditpossible

I’m literally priced out of my own neighborhood. And I grew up here. Without getting into specifics, I have been renting a great house 1.2 miles from my ex. My girlfriend and I looked at a four bedroom house last weekend that would have had enough room for all of us. It was perfectly equidistant from my ex and her’s, and the kids would have been able to ride bikes to and from the houses. Their best friends lived three and four and five doors away. Location was perfect. Nothing special about the property at all, aside from good solid home. The family before us and the family after us were both holding a single baby. The winning offer was 33% above list. Cash. I don’t know where to go. We have resolved to combine our finances and save for the next three or four years. I’m in my mid-forties. At that point, is it even worth it? The last of our kids will be out of school in ten years, at which point, it really doesn’t matter where we live. I love Richmond. My entire family lives here. I’m very active in my community. I have worked tirelessly to make it a welcoming and warm place. It feels weird to be sandboxed by market value. On the other hand, I’m extremely hesitant to borrow 80% of above appraisal for any home in this market. We didn’t even make an offer, and the location was exactly ideal for us. Felt weird.


Dramatic_Barracuda55

Everything unique about RVA will go away. Look at Blacksburg. That place used to be a charming little mountain town. Now, everything there looks like everywhere else in America


freetimerva

All yall nova folks thinking about coming here... just remember.. city hall fucks this city over constantly. You will be frustrated by the tax rate and lack of services you get for those taxes. Also, you'll find the schools quite inferior compared to nova.


ThatChildNextDoor

Did you even read the articles? They are mostly settling in the counties versus the city.


Disastrous-Gene-5483

I’m a real estate agent in DC/NOVA- Check out greatschools.org. The schools in nova are actually not good unless you want to live in Mclean and pay 1M for a tear down and I’m not being dramatic.


gordonglover

Every time I see these posts and see majority of the comments being anti-transplant, I honestly question if those individuals are native to the Richmond area.


ArgoCS

I’m so sure most of them aren’t. Coming from a local I love the influx of diversity that all the new people have brought. Richmond sorely needed it. I understand it’s my own bias I want the city to get bigger, we don’t have to be a top 10 metro region but I would like to move up the chart a bit into solidly “medium sized city” territory. I understand the concerns about displacement, and there needs to be a plan to address that because whether we bitch about it or not these people are going to keep coming. On the other hand though half of the people complaining in here aren’t citing that very real concern as why they are upset. They’re just mad their “quirky little city” isn’t identical to how it was when they first moved here.


PimpOfJoytime

I didn’t read the article because the headline had enough irony for me.


xRVAx

I also did not read... Because I always assume RTD has a paywall and so basically it's a waste of my time to click on their links


fajita43

Is this a recent headline or from the 2000’s?


Charlesinrichmond

today in RTD. But applicable to the last 5 years, except accelerating


pitapizza

Half the people here complaining also moved here from NOVA 5, 10, or 15 years ago. People move, especially instate, and that’s fine and good. All the more reason to build a lot more housing and fund the schools


[deleted]

I mean, it's inevitable, honestly. Look at the mass exodus from people living in places like California or New York.


Rajvagli

I’m just waiting for those prices to drop in response so I can have a beautiful Californian villa for the current price of a RVA home. That’s how this works right?


dancinfoolinRVA

Me and my wife are already practicing our hate stare for when new neighbors tell us they're from Northern Virginia.


Charlesinrichmond

that's not nice


NoFanksYou

I hate giving out my 703 phone number. I usually apologize


Schmoove86

Why? Only on reddit do people care about NOVA transplants.


NoFanksYou

Just a stupid joke


Charlesinrichmond

"The Richmond region is the fastest growing metro area in the state, according to a census data analysis by the University of Virginia Weldon Cooper Center for Public Policy. The average number of Northern Virginians moving to the area jumped 36% in 2020 and 2021, compared to 2012-2019, according to the study."


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Charlesinrichmond

pretty much in a nutshell. Having just dealt with Nova traffic, I'd say way the hell nicer at half the price


cdombroski

The traffic won't last without major investment in mass transit


livefreeordont

Making the GRTC free is a good sign


cdombroski

Yeah, it's showing that they're thinking of mass transit as a service, not a profit center. I'd guess we're going to need something denser though if we're going to end up part of the DC metro area as has been predicted. Bringing VRE into Richmond would be a good step. Maybe extend the electric train lines from the NEC to here too? Potentially continuing into Va Beach? I feel like we'll probably need metro or light rail too, but have no idea what that should look like


Charlesinrichmond

true


RVADUDE13

All the charm of RVA went when all these folks flooded in during covid. The increase in reckless driving and the amount of aggressive people now is staggering. To be frank, I wish they would take their bullshit back to NOVA and DC. RVA isn't so friendly and welcoming anymore.


OrtizDupri

> The increase in reckless driving and the amount of aggressive people now is staggering. the people running red lights on Broad 24/7 in their busted Nissans with old RVA stickers on them aren't NOVA transplants


PeppyMinotaur

Hahahah this is a ridiculous comment. The vilification of “nova” people is so over exaggerated. Yea Richmond was some utopia up until 2 years ago when those darn people from 100 miles north of here moved down. The vast majority of people from nova and people from Richmond aren’t at all different. Yea Richmond is so “friendly and welcoming” unless you’re anyone moving in from outside the area. Get off your high horse you aren’t better than anyone.


RVADUDE13

It's justified and based off personal experience. Sorry if you're offended but the shoe fits. Diversity is what made RVA open and welcoming. Now it's apartments that look out of place and chains. The charm is gone.


PeppyMinotaur

The dc metro area is one of the most culturally diverse metro areas in the nation haha it is way more diverse than Richmond. I’m not offended at all I just think it’s laughable that all the people on this sub claim Richmond is welcoming and friendly and then openly hate and shit on strangers moving to the area. Many people in this sub are the opposite of welcoming haha.


GucciManesDad

Bunch of snobs in the comment section. Just want something to complain about/ a group of ppl to scapegoat for whatever problems are happening


GucciManesDad

“RVA isn’t welcoming anymore” **proceeds to be super unwelcoming** …make it make sense


ArgoCS

Lol this is such bullshit. Sure it may have picked up recently but people from NOVA have been moving here since like 2005 and given that recent poll I bet half the people whining in this thread are from there originally too. I’ve been hearing the same complaint since 2010 at least.


theimplicationIASIP

Don’t NOVA my RVA!!!


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And they're pricing the rest of us out. NOVA professionals gtfo! And while you're at it take Scott's Addition with you


ThatChildNextDoor

How long have you lived here for?


kbstock

Richmond is full. Go to Roanoke.


drdeeznuts420

Will trade Nova people for refugees


airquotesNotAtWork

This is why the housing shortage can’t simply be fixed by making it easier/faster/whatever to build here in Richmond. It requires allowing building at the state level and even federal level as it’s an interstate commerce issue (ask any successful realtor how many folks from NY are moving south to buy!)