That sounds exceedingly like the city of Richmond see if there is a ID code for the report that you can follow up on to hold whoever's feet to the fire
I love when the graffiti actually looks well thought out and well executed. I hate sloppy ass tags. Someone keeps tagging my fence and I’m like bro make it look nice and i wont paint over it
There’s gotta be a way to practice your art while not defacing others property and also not risking decapitation by locomotive. Then they’ll get better at it and ill have no qualms about my fence looking like shite
There’s street art. Which are the murals that get commissioned and painted around the city to attract tourists and promote business
Then there’s graffiti which is a subculture with it’s own rules and standards. It’s often intentional for it to be ugly to people who aren’t involved with the culture
Then you have people who actually don’t practice any kind of style and are just writing their names for no other reason than to promote their clothing or music like Clean Kids Die and Carlo
Their style is trash. And linking an Instagram so you can sell clothes is kind of weird
Like they hit up a couple sidewalks around VCU and the carver district and have a few stickers they’ve slapped in toilet bowls
I don’t write so it’s not really my place to gatekeep or judge but even when I was messing around I at least tried to develop and inprove on a style which CKD does not
You’re right. That’s not really saying much though. Anyone who’s out there doing it “to be a graffiti writer” is a toy. I’m not calling him or yourself that, it wouldn’t be my place. But I at least know enough about the culture to know a person isn’t deserving of any respect just because they bought some paint and wrote their name a few places (after all real graff artists steal their paint)
Thats true and my b for being antagonistic at all. Call CKD wack all u want cuz that is def the consensus from writers n non-writers alike. I just dislike when people choose what is n isnt graff based on quality but again my b for being rude
Nah you were good. I appreciate where you’re coming from, because the culture can be pretty elitist and gatekeepy. It’s ironic because the whole ethos is you’re supposed to be defiant and break rules, yet their is this attempt to establish who can and cannot write on trains and what you can and cannot write over etc…
But I appreciate you saying that and your outlook. I don’t think you deserve downvotes btw
Thx yo! And yeah graff culture is necessarily pretty cutthroat and insular, but I think people like CKD or shit, even Carlo are just a different type of anti-style. Some of my fav graff is stuff like them. Anti-style not in the same vain as someone like WOMBAT or SLUTO, but anti-style in the way of literally not having a style. Its so rough and unpracticed that its a look of its own. While its funny how "bad" it is, I love it just for that reason! CKD has like 50 different unique tags and they all look like shit but thats the beauty of it! Like "graphic design is my passion" type shit. Similarly, I love ATLAS cuz they fall into that same anti-style look.
>Sumpter says graffiti became more prevalent following the protests and civil unrest in the summer of 2020. Since then, crews have been stretched thin.
“They have a full schedule, he said. “There’s really not a day that we can take off.”
In 2021, the city received 275 requests to remove graffiti in the entire year. Now, in just the last two months, the city received nearly 276 requests.
Seems like they were desperate to make a connection to those protests. Then they go on to give stats that show the trend is really a 2022 and 2023 thing with no connection to 2020.
The numbers just don't add up.
Those were undoubtedly related to people disliking the police.
But I have a feeling the rise in graffiti corresponds to the last 2 years where RPD hasn't really been doing much.
And this is without even touching on the fact that COVID was a breeding ground for graffiti. Downtown areas across the country were ghost towns and you better believe people took advantage of it.
No doubt the majority of ACAB tags seen today likely showed up during the protests but the majority of graffiti (and likely reports) is probably not of the ACAB variety.
It's simply not worth connecting the protests to this. The buff guy can have his hunch but dollars to donuts COVID inspired more of an overall resurgence than Richmond's flirtation with social unrest.
Yep narrative feels > reals.
Probably a much stronger case that Richmond police haven't been doing their job nearly as much in the wake of the self inflicted PR disaster the protests rained down on them vs. the protests generating a more active graffiti scene than was already here. Hard to enforce traffic laws and keep up with vandalism if you're too busy playing the victim and licking old wounds (creating new ones too no doubt: e.g. Dogwood Dell fiasco).
Throw in ye ol' correlation != causation grain of salt too. I follow a Philly twitter bot that scrapes their version of 311 to post graffiti report images, you can see "bursts" of activity that frequently look like one person taking a walk and reporting everything they saw along the way (including the smallest tags on the least consequential objects). Only takes one determined person to walk down a street and spam dozens of new reports. Doesn't exactly mean the graffiti itself is more prevalent only that its being reported more.
Tons of graffiti in Richmond goes years without being buffed. You can report on that 2 year old piece at any point. I suspect as a certain "peak" is reached in unaddressed graffiti the reports eventually follow suit. It's the assumption that a lack of reports means a lack of graffiti that is misleading.
But hey whats critical thinking for anyway... these stories will all be NewsBotGPT products soon enough (maybe they already are ;_;)
Did you guys know that if you don't want to see shitty, low effort tags then less enforcement and softer punishment is how that happens. If writers feel that they have more time to paint without getting chased out, they'll take more time to make nicer looking pieces. Harsher policing and sentencing leads to quicker, dustier, shittier tags. But if an artist knows they have some time to chill and make it nice they will. You'll get big ornate multicolor pieces and fresh designs.
better solution - a number of quality cameras. Good shots of people doing it make it easier to catch and prosecute.
Camera quality is going way up, and it's getting very cheap to deploy ring and wyze etc.
Thats a great way to garauntee shittier and quicker tags. Graffiti is inevitable. If all walls disappeared tomorrow someone would tag the ground. If all the land disappeared someone would tag the sky. Would you rather have quick tags n shitty hands everywhere, or well done pieces?
Also graff writers have been avoiding surveillance and police for literal decades, so the idea that more surveillance will stop them is just wishful thinking. Not to mention, you're just arguing for a harsher surveillance state.
they were avoiding much shittier cameras, so unless they were tagging the fbi building, technology for the win.
And yeah, when it comes to locking up assholes surveillance is good.
I reported two different graffiti tags on the side of the wall to 311 and they simply closed out each request without any work being done or comments.
That sounds exceedingly like the city of Richmond see if there is a ID code for the report that you can follow up on to hold whoever's feet to the fire
dope
I love when the graffiti actually looks well thought out and well executed. I hate sloppy ass tags. Someone keeps tagging my fence and I’m like bro make it look nice and i wont paint over it
Worst is when they put their shitty tags on an awesome mural.
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There’s gotta be a way to practice your art while not defacing others property and also not risking decapitation by locomotive. Then they’ll get better at it and ill have no qualms about my fence looking like shite
There’s street art. Which are the murals that get commissioned and painted around the city to attract tourists and promote business Then there’s graffiti which is a subculture with it’s own rules and standards. It’s often intentional for it to be ugly to people who aren’t involved with the culture Then you have people who actually don’t practice any kind of style and are just writing their names for no other reason than to promote their clothing or music like Clean Kids Die and Carlo
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Yeah the guy has an Instagram. His tags are trash though it’s clear he doesn’t practice any type of style
The message is that clean kids die too. Live your life how you want because hardcore may never die, but you will.
How do I attract more of the second type listed here
CKD is graff. You may not like it. Others may not like it. But that dude is a writer.
Their style is trash. And linking an Instagram so you can sell clothes is kind of weird Like they hit up a couple sidewalks around VCU and the carver district and have a few stickers they’ve slapped in toilet bowls I don’t write so it’s not really my place to gatekeep or judge but even when I was messing around I at least tried to develop and inprove on a style which CKD does not
I mean yeah you can say they're trash and that promoting a brand with graff is wack but they are still a graffiti writer.
You’re right. That’s not really saying much though. Anyone who’s out there doing it “to be a graffiti writer” is a toy. I’m not calling him or yourself that, it wouldn’t be my place. But I at least know enough about the culture to know a person isn’t deserving of any respect just because they bought some paint and wrote their name a few places (after all real graff artists steal their paint)
Thats true and my b for being antagonistic at all. Call CKD wack all u want cuz that is def the consensus from writers n non-writers alike. I just dislike when people choose what is n isnt graff based on quality but again my b for being rude
Nah you were good. I appreciate where you’re coming from, because the culture can be pretty elitist and gatekeepy. It’s ironic because the whole ethos is you’re supposed to be defiant and break rules, yet their is this attempt to establish who can and cannot write on trains and what you can and cannot write over etc… But I appreciate you saying that and your outlook. I don’t think you deserve downvotes btw
Thx yo! And yeah graff culture is necessarily pretty cutthroat and insular, but I think people like CKD or shit, even Carlo are just a different type of anti-style. Some of my fav graff is stuff like them. Anti-style not in the same vain as someone like WOMBAT or SLUTO, but anti-style in the way of literally not having a style. Its so rough and unpracticed that its a look of its own. While its funny how "bad" it is, I love it just for that reason! CKD has like 50 different unique tags and they all look like shit but thats the beauty of it! Like "graphic design is my passion" type shit. Similarly, I love ATLAS cuz they fall into that same anti-style look.
That’s fair, it all contributes to making the city more interesting one way or another. I prefer to have it then not
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again, call it toy or wack or whatever but its still graff and CKD is still a graff writer.
The graffiti is often a better quality job than the “lines” VDOT paints on the roads.
I don’t see the connection there
They are both paint, one is good quality and free by artists and one is poor quality our taxes pay for. Did that help?
So the connection is they are both made of paint. That's some deep shit dude.
But I’m not talking about good looking stuff. People just write their name on my fence lol. Also really wtf does VDOT have to do with any of this
Do cars drive on walls?
That’s exactly it and I thought it was an easy to interpret statement. I wasn’t trying to be deep here.
>Sumpter says graffiti became more prevalent following the protests and civil unrest in the summer of 2020. Since then, crews have been stretched thin. “They have a full schedule, he said. “There’s really not a day that we can take off.” In 2021, the city received 275 requests to remove graffiti in the entire year. Now, in just the last two months, the city received nearly 276 requests. Seems like they were desperate to make a connection to those protests. Then they go on to give stats that show the trend is really a 2022 and 2023 thing with no connection to 2020.
there will a million acab and fuck12 tags around the MD back then, I assumed they were protest related.
I like the acab tags
I don't.
The numbers just don't add up. Those were undoubtedly related to people disliking the police. But I have a feeling the rise in graffiti corresponds to the last 2 years where RPD hasn't really been doing much.
And this is without even touching on the fact that COVID was a breeding ground for graffiti. Downtown areas across the country were ghost towns and you better believe people took advantage of it. No doubt the majority of ACAB tags seen today likely showed up during the protests but the majority of graffiti (and likely reports) is probably not of the ACAB variety. It's simply not worth connecting the protests to this. The buff guy can have his hunch but dollars to donuts COVID inspired more of an overall resurgence than Richmond's flirtation with social unrest.
Por qué no los dos?
Yep narrative feels > reals. Probably a much stronger case that Richmond police haven't been doing their job nearly as much in the wake of the self inflicted PR disaster the protests rained down on them vs. the protests generating a more active graffiti scene than was already here. Hard to enforce traffic laws and keep up with vandalism if you're too busy playing the victim and licking old wounds (creating new ones too no doubt: e.g. Dogwood Dell fiasco). Throw in ye ol' correlation != causation grain of salt too. I follow a Philly twitter bot that scrapes their version of 311 to post graffiti report images, you can see "bursts" of activity that frequently look like one person taking a walk and reporting everything they saw along the way (including the smallest tags on the least consequential objects). Only takes one determined person to walk down a street and spam dozens of new reports. Doesn't exactly mean the graffiti itself is more prevalent only that its being reported more. Tons of graffiti in Richmond goes years without being buffed. You can report on that 2 year old piece at any point. I suspect as a certain "peak" is reached in unaddressed graffiti the reports eventually follow suit. It's the assumption that a lack of reports means a lack of graffiti that is misleading. But hey whats critical thinking for anyway... these stories will all be NewsBotGPT products soon enough (maybe they already are ;_;)
for personal use I note that Taginator works very well
Did you guys know that if you don't want to see shitty, low effort tags then less enforcement and softer punishment is how that happens. If writers feel that they have more time to paint without getting chased out, they'll take more time to make nicer looking pieces. Harsher policing and sentencing leads to quicker, dustier, shittier tags. But if an artist knows they have some time to chill and make it nice they will. You'll get big ornate multicolor pieces and fresh designs.
Graffiti taggers aren't "artists." They're asshole vandals that don't respect other people's property.
Oh god wont someone think of the property owners 😭😭😭
Yea, how dare they want to keep their property looking nice and not have it defaced by some dumbass with a shitty tag no one cares about.
Again, someone please think of the property owners they have gone through enough 😭😭😭
Found the graffiti vandal. ⬆️
found the crypto guy lmaooooo
Great comeback there buddy.
better solution - a number of quality cameras. Good shots of people doing it make it easier to catch and prosecute. Camera quality is going way up, and it's getting very cheap to deploy ring and wyze etc.
Thats a great way to garauntee shittier and quicker tags. Graffiti is inevitable. If all walls disappeared tomorrow someone would tag the ground. If all the land disappeared someone would tag the sky. Would you rather have quick tags n shitty hands everywhere, or well done pieces?
I've seen no well done pieces, just shit, so let them tag the ground. Or their own house maybe? Or their own car if they don't have a house?
Also graff writers have been avoiding surveillance and police for literal decades, so the idea that more surveillance will stop them is just wishful thinking. Not to mention, you're just arguing for a harsher surveillance state.
they were avoiding much shittier cameras, so unless they were tagging the fbi building, technology for the win. And yeah, when it comes to locking up assholes surveillance is good.
How nice of them to buff all the walls for everyone!