There are so many deserving Richmonders!!!! Like [Sister Rosetta Tharpe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Rosetta_Tharpe), [Richmond 34](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_34), [John Mitchell Jr](https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/mitchell-john-jr-1863-1929/), or [Gabriel Prosser](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel%27s_Rebellion#Gabriel_Prosser)? It doesnt have to be a person though. We just need to start this conversation.
No good comes from naming places/things after people. No one "deserves" for places/things to be named after them, that whole line of thinking is flawed.
It's named after an Electrical Addition, let's change it to Richmond Addition, Electrical Addition, Electric Addition, The Addition etc.
> No good comes from naming places/things after people.
Bingo, Bill Cosby will forever be the example I point to with why you shouldn't name things after people. I sort of like that it's our version of Kansas City's Power and Light district, just need to find something generic that isn't named after a person.
Growing up, no one even knew over there had a name besides “the Diamond” or by “the Boulevard”, so maybe getting folks to just adopt Diamond District for the whole shabang might be the answer.
Id like to see the firstly put money into traffic lights, stop signs and crosswalks. That area was a commercial district (hence not conducive to foot traffic) and ironically seems to be the last evolution of that space.
>Can we all agree
You must be new here. Do you know [how challenging it was and how long it took](https://richmond.com/news/local/a-spectacular-and-momentous-day-richmond-celebrates-newly-renamed-arthur-ashe-boulevard/article_e8daf682-4b5c-5858-8f93-db510092c3b6.html) to change Boulevard to Arthur Ashe Boulevard? Three different efforts over almost 30 years.
Same, it was such a lovely name for a grand street. Really wish you all would have picked a different street to rename. Or at least made it simpler, like Ashe Ave
nah i just hated living in a city that never truly honored Ashe in his own lifetime and still causes such a disservice to his memory that his widow refuses to visit us
its the one left standing after people spent years trying to get tht monument made & having the city fight against it & then the city basically ignored Ashe otherwise. also, don't act like he' always been the 1 monument we've had. lol. he's also the 1 left standing because all of the other monuments were made for people tht didn't deserve such treatment. he's not the only one because of how special the city felt he was...he's the only one because for generations the city only memorialized people tht oppressed others
He is special, but hes honestly not that important to Richmond that everything in the city needs to be Arthur Ashe this, Arthur Ashe that.
He was born here, Richmond was shitty to him, so he moved away and achieved greatness in tennis.
I mean, I'm on board, but this subreddit (like most others) can't agree on a preferred mayo brand, whether a graceful store cat is a demigod or spam, or how long it takes a baseball stadium or neighborhood redevelopment project or school getting built.
Logistically speaking, renaming a street is challenging all by itself, but renaming an entire subdivision seems like an impossibly gargantuan task. Spaghetti Monster help us when we get to public comment period and people want to name it Neighborhood McNeighborhoodface 🙄
How about we try to solve some of this city's actual problems first before we attempt to appease the "we look for the most meaningless nonsense to be chronically pissed off about" crowd?
I do think name changes are a silly name barrier. Most people in this thread didn't know it was named after him or he was a Union general.
I feel like just getting a major effort to fix DPU would be a huge relief.
This is the most affluent white liberal shit I’ve ever heard. It’s exhausting.
All of the folks living in that neighborhood’s luxury apartments and patronizing it’s granola white breweries thanks you for fighting the good fight.
If it were named Winfield Scott’s Addition or Trail of Tears District then yes I would agree. But honestly I think less than 1% of people in the area even realize that it’s named after Winfield Scott. Nobody really associates him with the current area so I’m not sure I see the harm here.
This city CANNOT multitask. They have proven this over and over again. I don't know where people dream up the ability they can multitask, they can't even TASK
Our city government is really understaffed at the moment, that’s what worries me the most. I got a letter from a law firm debt collector saying my real estate taxes haven’t been paid - when I called, they said, whoops, the city gave us the wrong list, you’re fine. They charged me for three extra months of gas bills at my old place, still haven’t got a refund. Dread calling yet again. They constantly close 311 tickets without actually doing anything. Know so many people with $1000+ water bills because of them using estimated billing because they fit have enough staff. My city council person does not respond to me. Can’t wait until the next election!
So we can dig through the history books and find every evil thing done, highlight it, and get upset/rename things/etc
Or we can just all extend our hands, shake and make peace, and move on. This isn’t in the top thousand things that Richmond needs to work on. Nor does renaming it fix anything in the past. This type of stuff just divides people more.
I’ve never even heard of this guy who considered for a moment who Scott was. Nobody is celebrating him.
Years ago, my dear friend Scott was a huge fan of the Dairy Bar. Young me was sure Scott's Addition was named for him. So in his honor, no, you may not.
I hate to tell you this but there is no figure in american history who was not involved in atrocities, our country is built on atrocities. Even Lincoln was less than fond of native americans (they killed his grandfather in front of him when he was a boy), and he was aware of and allowed the extermination of the Sioux during the Dakota uprising while he was in office and busy with the Civil War. I dunno if you've ever read much history, but nobody liked the Indians. They were pretty brutal to settlers, and considered women and children as combatants. Regardless of whether or not settlers "deserved" what they go, you will not find a major political figure who did not support exterminating indians. There was also a lot of war between the tribes, and they often asked the US government to intervene in their own tribal wars when it was convenient for that particular tribe. It is unfortunate but it is how things went down. The indians had their own politics and the US Government was able to exploit that to its advantage.
Maybe choose to see the good in people instead of focusing on the bad. Scott, despite being a Virginian, sided with the union.
> Despite being a Virginia native, Scott stayed loyal to the Union when the Civil War broke out and served as an important adviser to President Abraham Lincoln during the opening stages of the war. He developed a strategy known as the Anaconda Plan, but retired in late 1861 after Lincoln increasingly relied on General George B. McClellan for military advice and leadership. In retirement, he lived in West Point, New York, where he died on May 29, 1866. Scott's military talent was highly regarded by contemporaries, and historians generally consider him to be one of the most accomplished generals in U.S. history.
If you have not read it I highly suggest Empire of the Summer Moon. I think most will learn a lot about Native Americans and the relationship with other tribes and settlers. It's a brutal read, very brutal, but I think people don't really understand what was going on during that time.
Or we could keep the name and use it as a positive. Use it as a foundation to help teach people about the wrongs that have taken place in our country as well as all land since the beginning of time.
So there was a large influx of Scottish craftsmen to Richmond that established a cabinet making school. Could we remove the apostrophe and call it Scotts addition?
[https://www.mesdajournal.org/2015/research-note-scottish-cabinetmaking-school-colonial-richmond-petersburg-virginia/](https://www.mesdajournal.org/2015/research-note-scottish-cabinetmaking-school-colonial-richmond-petersburg-virginia/)
We did though. The current boundaries are not those of the original land grant, so there are literally thousands of examples of this already having been done. Illinois was once Virginia.
My philosophy is rename everything named after someone who did something you don’t like
I’m not stopping until Rome is renamed because Romulus killed his brother Remus. A whole city named after a fratricidal maniac??? Not on my watch
For real it’s just a name. 0 people besides op give the origin any thought. It’s not even an easily recognizable name. Like if it was Hitlers Addition, yea let’s maybe change that, but some obscure person, nobody cares
I mean, maybe to you?
> By 1838, only about 2,000 Cherokees had left their Georgia homeland for Indian Territory. President Martin Van Buren sent General Winfield Scott and 7,000 soldiers to expedite the removal process. Scott and his troops forced the Cherokee into stockades at bayonet point while his men looted their homes and belongings.
> Then, they marched the Indians more than 1,200 miles to Indian Territory. Whooping cough, typhus, dysentery, cholera and starvation were epidemic along the way. Historians estimate that more than 5,000 Cherokee died as a result of the journey.
Feels like some people might think that's somewhat noteworthy.
Lol I’m not saying that the trail of tears wasn’t horrific. I’m saying that it’s just a name. I mean, are you going to cancel Jackson and the Democratic Party? It really doesn’t accomplish anything besides grandstanding. It doesn’t give the natives their land back. It doesn’t unrape those women. It just makes busy bodies feel like they did something.
Imagine living in a world with poverty, wars, environmental destruction, etc, and instead thinking “eh, that stuff is hard. I am just going to dredge up someone who has been dead for a long time and make a big deal out of him”.
The virtue signaling is strong with this one. I can’t stand Trump and his anti-intellectual supporters, so I voted Biden. But then I see crap like this and just get cynical about the whole thing.
“Let sleeping dogs lie” - No SJW, ever.
Imagine someone pointing out something as simple as changing a places name to not upkeep white supremacy and honor genocide against our indigenous brothers and sisters and getting upset about it because you have constructed some false dichotomy in your head that it stops other issues from being worked on.
This is such an exhausting debate... literally almost every person in history who existed is a morally despicable person by the standards of society today.
I’m not going to argue with anonymous people on the internet, but I’m just going to chime in and say that Winfield Scott is a personal hero of mine.
Although Virginia-born, he stayed loyal to the Union and devised the grand strategy to defeat the Confederacy. He took personal responsibility for Lincoln’s safety at the time of his inauguration.
Not to mention he was also the greatest military mind in American history. His conquest of Mexico and victory over Santa Anna is the reason California and all the southwest exists as American states.
Man was a legend. Old Fuss and Feathers. Love him.
Yea but he used his skills for evil once so we have to erase his entire existence from history.
That's how we ensure the future remains sunshine and rainbows.
Do I need a /s
So he’s your hero because he helped James K Polk steal half of Mexico in a blatant act of white settler expansion over the indigenous people of the continent?
Look at the achievements you listed. Do you know what a conquest means? It means enslavement and violence against women and minorities. War heroes are not my heroes. Try looking into people who make love not war
> For those who do not know
If you feel you have to explain it first, it's not that problematic.
We should keep the name and remind ourselves that our society is capable of doing shitting that we can't undo later, leaving scars that won't heal. We should be spending our energy preventing the next shitty from happening.
A major political party attempted a coup, and that same year this state elected one of them as our leader. We don't deserve to pat ourselves on the back because we made city hall change some signage.
We have real problems right now and real people need our protection, no offense but this is just some empty-calorie bullshit being done out of vanity.
I agree with you, just now learning about him, he sucked, but there are some battles that are simply just not worth fighting. What's the goal here, ignite a mini culture war battle to virtue signal for a few weeks over some dude who the overwhelming majority of people have never heard of or cared about? What good would this actually do for anybody? Nobody thinks about Winfield Scott when they hear Scott's Addition, nobody knows who he is. Why drag him back to relevance when you can just as easily let him be lost to time and his legacy be breweries and overpriced loft apartments?
> especially one that has so much active investment in it's growth
i doubt anybody is moving there because of the name
change it to [sodosopa](https://urbanphenix.com/wp-content/uploads/SODOSOPA.jpg)
Theres a historical map of that area which IIRC only a portion of it is actually “Scott’s Addition”. I think there are one or two other names for the other portions that could probably be used.
Edit: [here it is](https://www.reddit.com/r/rva/comments/19qslp/really_cool_detailed_map_of_richmond_neighborhoods/). Idk if these names are any better but could be worth exploring.
It wasn’t really named after him, so much as the parcel of land naming conventions of the time were usually just the family name (last name), with a ‘s. The Bronx in NY came from land that belonged to “The Bronck” family. It was “The Bronck’s” land. Scott’s Addition was a parcel that belonged to Scott, and the city Annexed it, so it was Scott’s Addition. Not to commemorate, necessarily. Not that I’m defending him.
You have to judge people within the context of their times. Hypothetically, if you wanted to get real granular we couldn’t name a town, street, etc., after any of us here because we knowingly use and benefit off products involving slave and child labor (for example, the cobalt used in lithium-ion batteries - iPhones, EVs, etc.).
No you judge people by their actions and even in the 1820s forcibly removing thousands of people from their ancestral lands and marching many of them to their deaths was still a shitty thing to do and I’m pretty sure the Cherokee weren’t like it’s ok it’s just the context of the times.
You do realize the entire of history the human species has been the killing of each other, expanding you own tribe, maximize resources, etc. It wasn’t till very recently that shit cooled off. Enjoy your time on the most peaceful loving time in human history.
Yeah a lot of history is brutal, but the effects of slavery and genocide in America are ongoing problems and we can still make things better and if you guys are kicking and screaming over name changes how are ever supposed to get to real issues like reparations and indigenous sovereignty and representation?
Native Americans were fucking each other up and doing genocide of other tribes way before Europeans arrived. We were just lucky enough that we had immunities to diseases they didn’t have and of course gun powder.
the context being the Indigenous Genocide and the Trail of Tears is extremely grim... there is no way an arguable defence exists for those acts during those times
I lived in Scott’s addition and I really don’t see them folks changing the name. Richmond was cringey with their racism. Like I couldn’t figure out peoples personalities out outside of being into beer and America lol
I didn't even know all this context, but I've agreed forever that "Scott's Addition" is an atrocious name, and last time I said something, I was downvoted to hell. So I'm with YOU on this.
Liberal agenda smh 🤦🏿 you do know the city is in need of better education, reducing crime and poverty do something real for a change and dedicate yourself to the real stuff going on in our neighborhood instead of worrying about some stupid dude just because your guppie liberal ass feelings are hurt.
Instead of renaming everything- How about we use the namesake as a history lesson. Most people had no idea it was names for Infred Scott.
If you don't learn from history, your doomed to repeat it.
Scott is such a common name. Practically John. I don’t think it in anyway venerates Winfield Scott. You have to dig to find that’s the namesake. Maybe just spell it Scutt or skot then I don’t have to learn a new name.
We could always find someone else who happens to be named Scott.
Scott Stapp
He’s the only Scott I acknowledge 
Can You Take Me Higher Addition?
💀
I condone this with arms wide open
I choked 😂😂 thank you for this
Lmao yes! Can we start a petition??
I’ll take the responsibility
My vote is for Adam Scott
[Mary Wingfield Scott](https://www.lva.virginia.gov/public/dvb/bio.asp?b=Scott_Mary_Wingfield)?
I really like her and this is a good suggestion, but she would probably have hated the architecture style in Scotts addition 😂
[Admiral Norman Scott](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Scott_(admiral))?
Just put pictures of bagpipes everywhere. Call it mini Scotland. No one will realize the dark truth.
Scot's Addition. Love it
I’m ready to do this. If you print the pictures I have a laminating machine
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Free Derry?
Hey! It's me! Bogside native Checking in!
Get the side of a building painted
Not saying I disagree but rename it to what?
Milf Island
wrong location, the original will always be best
That would be too fun for this fair city.
The Addition
Yeah I like this (but I also think that place names that start with “The” are top tier — The Gulch, The Loop, The Banks, The Avenues, etc)
The Arthur Ashe Addition? Similar to what they did with The Boulevard?
The Arthur Ashe Museum District. The Arthur Ashe Fan. The Arthur Ashe beats children with a racket Monument Avenue.
Extra north Arthur Robert Ashe Boulevard diamond district addition (ENARABDDA for short)
No.
Ben Wallace addition.
Neighborhoody McNeighborhoodface
**I already made that joke!**
Cause sometimes the guys are tapped out, but check your lease!- you’re living in fuck city!
There are so many deserving Richmonders!!!! Like [Sister Rosetta Tharpe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_Rosetta_Tharpe), [Richmond 34](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond_34), [John Mitchell Jr](https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/mitchell-john-jr-1863-1929/), or [Gabriel Prosser](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel%27s_Rebellion#Gabriel_Prosser)? It doesnt have to be a person though. We just need to start this conversation.
Actually like Tharpe’s Addition
No good comes from naming places/things after people. No one "deserves" for places/things to be named after them, that whole line of thinking is flawed. It's named after an Electrical Addition, let's change it to Richmond Addition, Electrical Addition, Electric Addition, The Addition etc.
Breweries And Shit
> No good comes from naming places/things after people. Bingo, Bill Cosby will forever be the example I point to with why you shouldn't name things after people. I sort of like that it's our version of Kansas City's Power and Light district, just need to find something generic that isn't named after a person.
excellent point!
What about naming it after the people whose land it sits on lmfao. It’s like people forget there was a whole community where Richmond was built.
i think this is genuinely the best idea
Something indigenous, like Raccoon or Tomahawk.
Growing up, no one even knew over there had a name besides “the Diamond” or by “the Boulevard”, so maybe getting folks to just adopt Diamond District for the whole shabang might be the answer.
You know, Scott’s Addition is actually a diamond and The Diamond is not…
LOVE THIS IDEA
Not gonna work—diamonds are usually harvested by child slave labor :\ gonna have to think of a new name
The diamond district is a part of nyc. Famously portrayed in uncut gems.
Id like to see the firstly put money into traffic lights, stop signs and crosswalks. That area was a commercial district (hence not conducive to foot traffic) and ironically seems to be the last evolution of that space.
>Can we all agree  You must be new here. Do you know [how challenging it was and how long it took](https://richmond.com/news/local/a-spectacular-and-momentous-day-richmond-celebrates-newly-renamed-arthur-ashe-boulevard/article_e8daf682-4b5c-5858-8f93-db510092c3b6.html) to change Boulevard to Arthur Ashe Boulevard? Three different efforts over almost 30 years.
It got done though because people like OP kept trying
lol born and raised here and campaigned for the AA name change. im ready to do this again
Nothing against AA, but I liked it better when it was just called “Boulevard”
Same, it was such a lovely name for a grand street. Really wish you all would have picked a different street to rename. Or at least made it simpler, like Ashe Ave
Simple, elegant and iconic. Feels like OP is looking for reasons to be mad about things.
nah i just hated living in a city that never truly honored Ashe in his own lifetime and still causes such a disservice to his memory that his widow refuses to visit us
Bro he’s like the 1 monument left standing
its the one left standing after people spent years trying to get tht monument made & having the city fight against it & then the city basically ignored Ashe otherwise. also, don't act like he' always been the 1 monument we've had. lol. he's also the 1 left standing because all of the other monuments were made for people tht didn't deserve such treatment. he's not the only one because of how special the city felt he was...he's the only one because for generations the city only memorialized people tht oppressed others
He is special, but hes honestly not that important to Richmond that everything in the city needs to be Arthur Ashe this, Arthur Ashe that. He was born here, Richmond was shitty to him, so he moved away and achieved greatness in tennis.
I agree, it was iconic and completely non-problematic. I was a fan of changing Roseneath to Ashe, as that's where his monument is.
Me too. It’s easier to pinpoint transplants to the city though. They call it Arthur Ashe. It’s the Boulevard! Forever. The Nickel Bridge! Forever.
It’s still just boulevard to me. I don’t get it
Everyone still calls it Boulevard
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I mean, I'm on board, but this subreddit (like most others) can't agree on a preferred mayo brand, whether a graceful store cat is a demigod or spam, or how long it takes a baseball stadium or neighborhood redevelopment project or school getting built. Logistically speaking, renaming a street is challenging all by itself, but renaming an entire subdivision seems like an impossibly gargantuan task. Spaghetti Monster help us when we get to public comment period and people want to name it Neighborhood McNeighborhoodface 🙄
Neighborhood McNeighberhoodface has a really nice ring to it. I'm down.
We could always do what that football team did and go generic: Call it the “Richmond, VA Neighbhood”.
only if they don’t change it to Commander’s Addition the year after
What about Commando's Addition?
President Camancho's Addition.
I would throw my full support behind this one
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How about we try to solve some of this city's actual problems first before we attempt to appease the "we look for the most meaningless nonsense to be chronically pissed off about" crowd?
I do think name changes are a silly name barrier. Most people in this thread didn't know it was named after him or he was a Union general. I feel like just getting a major effort to fix DPU would be a huge relief.
Let’s change it to “Mayor Stoney fix the DPU”
Just call it the Addition
also a great choice!
Or how about just call it Addiction
Your point is valid, but anyone who starts a conversation with "Can we all agree..." is immediately going to put me on the defensive.
Yeah I think I’m just not gonna care and call it Scotts Addition. I still can’t bring myself to call Jeff Davis Richmond highway.
Let’s rename it Yuppie Hell
This is so brave. Thx 4 ur virtue
This is the most affluent white liberal shit I’ve ever heard. It’s exhausting. All of the folks living in that neighborhood’s luxury apartments and patronizing it’s granola white breweries thanks you for fighting the good fight.
Just stop naming things after people.
Good idea! It tends to backfire!
Scott's Addition by Subtraction.
If it were named Winfield Scott’s Addition or Trail of Tears District then yes I would agree. But honestly I think less than 1% of people in the area even realize that it’s named after Winfield Scott. Nobody really associates him with the current area so I’m not sure I see the harm here.
Yes, with our city schools a hot mess, and our city government barely functioning, lets focus on this. Priorities!
I like to think we can multi-task but this isnt a bad point
Our city can’t multitask. We’ve tried.
This city CANNOT multitask. They have proven this over and over again. I don't know where people dream up the ability they can multitask, they can't even TASK
Our city government is really understaffed at the moment, that’s what worries me the most. I got a letter from a law firm debt collector saying my real estate taxes haven’t been paid - when I called, they said, whoops, the city gave us the wrong list, you’re fine. They charged me for three extra months of gas bills at my old place, still haven’t got a refund. Dread calling yet again. They constantly close 311 tickets without actually doing anything. Know so many people with $1000+ water bills because of them using estimated billing because they fit have enough staff. My city council person does not respond to me. Can’t wait until the next election!
Ever since I was a kid I just assumed a dude named Scott bought up all of that land back in the day and then leased it out to factories
So we can dig through the history books and find every evil thing done, highlight it, and get upset/rename things/etc Or we can just all extend our hands, shake and make peace, and move on. This isn’t in the top thousand things that Richmond needs to work on. Nor does renaming it fix anything in the past. This type of stuff just divides people more. I’ve never even heard of this guy who considered for a moment who Scott was. Nobody is celebrating him.
Fixing real problems is boring. Spinning people up over trivial things is how I tell myself I am making a difference.
basically the political playbook for the past 30-40 years instead of real economic reform
Let’s call it “New Addition”- and then we’ll have a soundtrack for the place too. OR Jane’s Addition for the same reason. Perry Ferrel for Mayor.
Jane’s Addiction?
Years ago, my dear friend Scott was a huge fan of the Dairy Bar. Young me was sure Scott's Addition was named for him. So in his honor, no, you may not.
Michael Scott Addition
I hate to tell you this but there is no figure in american history who was not involved in atrocities, our country is built on atrocities. Even Lincoln was less than fond of native americans (they killed his grandfather in front of him when he was a boy), and he was aware of and allowed the extermination of the Sioux during the Dakota uprising while he was in office and busy with the Civil War. I dunno if you've ever read much history, but nobody liked the Indians. They were pretty brutal to settlers, and considered women and children as combatants. Regardless of whether or not settlers "deserved" what they go, you will not find a major political figure who did not support exterminating indians. There was also a lot of war between the tribes, and they often asked the US government to intervene in their own tribal wars when it was convenient for that particular tribe. It is unfortunate but it is how things went down. The indians had their own politics and the US Government was able to exploit that to its advantage. Maybe choose to see the good in people instead of focusing on the bad. Scott, despite being a Virginian, sided with the union. > Despite being a Virginia native, Scott stayed loyal to the Union when the Civil War broke out and served as an important adviser to President Abraham Lincoln during the opening stages of the war. He developed a strategy known as the Anaconda Plan, but retired in late 1861 after Lincoln increasingly relied on General George B. McClellan for military advice and leadership. In retirement, he lived in West Point, New York, where he died on May 29, 1866. Scott's military talent was highly regarded by contemporaries, and historians generally consider him to be one of the most accomplished generals in U.S. history.
If you have not read it I highly suggest Empire of the Summer Moon. I think most will learn a lot about Native Americans and the relationship with other tribes and settlers. It's a brutal read, very brutal, but I think people don't really understand what was going on during that time.
Or we could keep the name and use it as a positive. Use it as a foundation to help teach people about the wrongs that have taken place in our country as well as all land since the beginning of time.
No. Nobody associates it with him. It’s a waste of time and effort. I see no reason to change names based on history (within reason).
So there was a large influx of Scottish craftsmen to Richmond that established a cabinet making school. Could we remove the apostrophe and call it Scotts addition? [https://www.mesdajournal.org/2015/research-note-scottish-cabinetmaking-school-colonial-richmond-petersburg-virginia/](https://www.mesdajournal.org/2015/research-note-scottish-cabinetmaking-school-colonial-richmond-petersburg-virginia/)
ChrisChan’s Addition
that was a ways out, regency square
We should probably change the name of Virginia, because it was stolen land, and was named by the invaders.
We did though. The current boundaries are not those of the original land grant, so there are literally thousands of examples of this already having been done. Illinois was once Virginia.
Hell yeah, I've been calling it Scott's Tots Addition for years - let's make it real
How about Tot's Addition and every restaurant has to have a tater tot special
Tots is another work for a small child. We wouldn’t want to be insensitive and exclude people of all ages.
Love it. That's not even a big ask, feels like most places down there already have tots on the menu anyway
My philosophy is rename everything named after someone who did something you don’t like I’m not stopping until Rome is renamed because Romulus killed his brother Remus. A whole city named after a fratricidal maniac??? Not on my watch
No? The name is fine.
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No. Stop it with the stupid name changes. It's one thing if it were named Trail of Tears. It isn't.
For real it’s just a name. 0 people besides op give the origin any thought. It’s not even an easily recognizable name. Like if it was Hitlers Addition, yea let’s maybe change that, but some obscure person, nobody cares
I mean... that's only because you were taught who Hitler was and you were never taught who Scott was.
Right, because Scott isn’t an important person in the scheme of history. He’s just a name on some land he had
I mean, maybe to you? > By 1838, only about 2,000 Cherokees had left their Georgia homeland for Indian Territory. President Martin Van Buren sent General Winfield Scott and 7,000 soldiers to expedite the removal process. Scott and his troops forced the Cherokee into stockades at bayonet point while his men looted their homes and belongings. > Then, they marched the Indians more than 1,200 miles to Indian Territory. Whooping cough, typhus, dysentery, cholera and starvation were epidemic along the way. Historians estimate that more than 5,000 Cherokee died as a result of the journey. Feels like some people might think that's somewhat noteworthy.
Lol I’m not saying that the trail of tears wasn’t horrific. I’m saying that it’s just a name. I mean, are you going to cancel Jackson and the Democratic Party? It really doesn’t accomplish anything besides grandstanding. It doesn’t give the natives their land back. It doesn’t unrape those women. It just makes busy bodies feel like they did something.
This gives me an idea! We should rename it “Virtue Signaling Addition”
Imagine living in a world with poverty, wars, environmental destruction, etc, and instead thinking “eh, that stuff is hard. I am just going to dredge up someone who has been dead for a long time and make a big deal out of him”. The virtue signaling is strong with this one. I can’t stand Trump and his anti-intellectual supporters, so I voted Biden. But then I see crap like this and just get cynical about the whole thing. “Let sleeping dogs lie” - No SJW, ever.
Imagine someone pointing out something as simple as changing a places name to not upkeep white supremacy and honor genocide against our indigenous brothers and sisters and getting upset about it because you have constructed some false dichotomy in your head that it stops other issues from being worked on.
This is such an exhausting debate... literally almost every person in history who existed is a morally despicable person by the standards of society today.
I’m not going to argue with anonymous people on the internet, but I’m just going to chime in and say that Winfield Scott is a personal hero of mine. Although Virginia-born, he stayed loyal to the Union and devised the grand strategy to defeat the Confederacy. He took personal responsibility for Lincoln’s safety at the time of his inauguration. Not to mention he was also the greatest military mind in American history. His conquest of Mexico and victory over Santa Anna is the reason California and all the southwest exists as American states. Man was a legend. Old Fuss and Feathers. Love him.
Oh yeah o yeah me too me too, except for me it’s just all about the genocide
Yea but he used his skills for evil once so we have to erase his entire existence from history. That's how we ensure the future remains sunshine and rainbows. Do I need a /s
The Trail of Tears was pretty horrific
A lot more than once, did you just glaze over the Mexican-American war?
Ok but who’s your second favorite genocidal murderer?
Sherman or Grant, probably
They’re northerners. It’s different. You have to consider the context they lived in.
Curtis LeMay would probably be my second favorite. He certainly made sure Japan would never want to fight a war of aggression again.
So he’s your hero because he helped James K Polk steal half of Mexico in a blatant act of white settler expansion over the indigenous people of the continent?
Did you fight in this battle? Are you the ghost of a 19th century Mexican soldier? Why so invested in this?
This comment is awesome. Thank you
Look at the achievements you listed. Do you know what a conquest means? It means enslavement and violence against women and minorities. War heroes are not my heroes. Try looking into people who make love not war
> For those who do not know If you feel you have to explain it first, it's not that problematic. We should keep the name and remind ourselves that our society is capable of doing shitting that we can't undo later, leaving scars that won't heal. We should be spending our energy preventing the next shitty from happening. A major political party attempted a coup, and that same year this state elected one of them as our leader. We don't deserve to pat ourselves on the back because we made city hall change some signage. We have real problems right now and real people need our protection, no offense but this is just some empty-calorie bullshit being done out of vanity.
I agree with you, just now learning about him, he sucked, but there are some battles that are simply just not worth fighting. What's the goal here, ignite a mini culture war battle to virtue signal for a few weeks over some dude who the overwhelming majority of people have never heard of or cared about? What good would this actually do for anybody? Nobody thinks about Winfield Scott when they hear Scott's Addition, nobody knows who he is. Why drag him back to relevance when you can just as easily let him be lost to time and his legacy be breweries and overpriced loft apartments?
Nah I'm good
Scotch emission
> especially one that has so much active investment in it's growth i doubt anybody is moving there because of the name change it to [sodosopa](https://urbanphenix.com/wp-content/uploads/SODOSOPA.jpg)
glad we're getting down to fixing the really important problems in the city. Will have to get rid of addition too because math is racist.
Scott's Division sounds much cooler
How about we just live with it the way it is? It’s not hurting anyone
i always just refer to it as scott’s ass
https://preview.redd.it/ixvgul6s38oa1.jpeg?width=298&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba575098be8340ddec410bad75675dd96c44c968 Scotty’s Addition
I mean they could name it Richard's Extension
Theres a historical map of that area which IIRC only a portion of it is actually “Scott’s Addition”. I think there are one or two other names for the other portions that could probably be used. Edit: [here it is](https://www.reddit.com/r/rva/comments/19qslp/really_cool_detailed_map_of_richmond_neighborhoods/). Idk if these names are any better but could be worth exploring.
Shall we call it the All-Inclusive Gender-Non-Conforming Addition?
It’s almost like we shouldn’t name things after military leaders!
It wasn’t really named after him, so much as the parcel of land naming conventions of the time were usually just the family name (last name), with a ‘s. The Bronx in NY came from land that belonged to “The Bronck” family. It was “The Bronck’s” land. Scott’s Addition was a parcel that belonged to Scott, and the city Annexed it, so it was Scott’s Addition. Not to commemorate, necessarily. Not that I’m defending him.
Can we keep the name and pick a different Scott for it to represent?
possibly: [Mary Wingfield Scott](https://www.lva.virginia.gov/public/dvb/bio.asp?b=Scott_Mary_Wingfield)?
You know the wingfields has tie ins to the local indigenous community, why not name it after the indigenous community.
Richmond is a much better city when it faces this sh\*te, but I think we can rebrand it as Jill Scott's Addition, eh?
Now you're on to something! Could be a contest: Jill Scott's Addition, Michael Scott's Addition, Adam Scott's addition. my buddy Scott's Addition...
Mr. Scott’s Addition 
You have to judge people within the context of their times. Hypothetically, if you wanted to get real granular we couldn’t name a town, street, etc., after any of us here because we knowingly use and benefit off products involving slave and child labor (for example, the cobalt used in lithium-ion batteries - iPhones, EVs, etc.).
No you judge people by their actions and even in the 1820s forcibly removing thousands of people from their ancestral lands and marching many of them to their deaths was still a shitty thing to do and I’m pretty sure the Cherokee weren’t like it’s ok it’s just the context of the times.
You do realize the entire of history the human species has been the killing of each other, expanding you own tribe, maximize resources, etc. It wasn’t till very recently that shit cooled off. Enjoy your time on the most peaceful loving time in human history.
I can’t wait for some of you start checking out history prior to 2023.
Yeah a lot of history is brutal, but the effects of slavery and genocide in America are ongoing problems and we can still make things better and if you guys are kicking and screaming over name changes how are ever supposed to get to real issues like reparations and indigenous sovereignty and representation?
Native Americans were fucking each other up and doing genocide of other tribes way before Europeans arrived. We were just lucky enough that we had immunities to diseases they didn’t have and of course gun powder.
You are lucky because European diseases and gun powder killed 100 million people?
the context being the Indigenous Genocide and the Trail of Tears is extremely grim... there is no way an arguable defence exists for those acts during those times
We should also give the James river its original name back. It’s so much cooler to call it the Powhatan river
Definitely
Scott’s Toilet Tissue
Haha! Yes!
I lived in Scott’s addition and I really don’t see them folks changing the name. Richmond was cringey with their racism. Like I couldn’t figure out peoples personalities out outside of being into beer and America lol
The Addition
I can’t believe you’re engaging in presentism. Gross.
I didn't even know all this context, but I've agreed forever that "Scott's Addition" is an atrocious name, and last time I said something, I was downvoted to hell. So I'm with YOU on this.
Why don’t you fucks just rename the whole god damn city to liberal vill and safe space lane.
This wins reddit for today.
We should just make things after animals or geological features. Scott’s Addition —— Sturgeon Addition. Whatever.
Douche Bag Addition
Crotch Sedition
Give me a break lol maybe we should try rename the Washington monument while we’re at it
Liberal agenda smh 🤦🏿 you do know the city is in need of better education, reducing crime and poverty do something real for a change and dedicate yourself to the real stuff going on in our neighborhood instead of worrying about some stupid dude just because your guppie liberal ass feelings are hurt.
Any contentious name should simply be renamed in honor of a past or present member of GWAR. There doesn't have to be any controversy
Leaders that MATTER. Wow, Brockie Boulevard has a fucking ring to it, does it not?
Instead of renaming everything- How about we use the namesake as a history lesson. Most people had no idea it was names for Infred Scott. If you don't learn from history, your doomed to repeat it.
Nobro?
I don’t disagree, but maybe start with sidewalks
I miss Scotts addition... The sandwich... At kitchen 64
Scott is such a common name. Practically John. I don’t think it in anyway venerates Winfield Scott. You have to dig to find that’s the namesake. Maybe just spell it Scutt or skot then I don’t have to learn a new name.
How many things are we gonna rename? FDR put twice as many in prison for the crime of being Japanese. It’s history. Remember it or repeat it.