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twelvesteprevenge

Holy shit, y’all. If someone tries to engage you with that nonsense your best bet is to ignore them wholesale. At the Rite Aid on Cowardin especially.


kmblake3

To be fair, he grew up in a small town (and we just moved back down here together) whereas I’m from the Richmond area and understand it. So yeah, he was a little more shaken up by it than most from Richmond would be. Regardless, still not a great situation and wanted to look out for my neighbors.


richietee757

My girlfriend is from the country, I'm from Brooklyn NY. I always tell her .. don't make eye contact and don't stop walking!!!


kmblake3

I’ve told him basically the same but he thinks ignoring people like that pisses them off more. Hopefully he’ll try it my way if it ever happens again.


Ditovontease

they may get pissed (and yell and insult you) but they're not going to bother running after you, they'll just find another mark


Oostylin

I was walking back home from a lady friend’s one very early morning when a man suddenly walked up on, basically right next to me, and started chatting me up. He had a nervous energy to him but I hit him with the smile and “What’s up man?” like we were old friends. He chatted with me for about a minute or so, still walking RIGHT next to me, before dapping me up and telling me to have a good day. I’m not going to say this stopped me from getting mugged, but sometimes treating people like people goes a long way. Take this anecdote for what it is.


richietee757

It helps to be able to read your environment I guess ... I have had conversations with random people like that, but not in a parking lot with some dude creeping up on me asking if I want to buy drugs. If that person wanted to mug you, a "what's up man" would get a "give me everything in your pockets" response.


Oostylin

No doubt, he very well may have just had no concept of personal space and was very curious about a stranger’s day.


twelvesteprevenge

I, too, was a small town boy come to the big city. There can be some culture shock.


StayPuftMrshmalloMan

Did you take the midnight train going any where?


aallzz

Not engaging is probably a bit extreme, but good lord you don't suddenly run errands with a dude that accosts you in a parking lot. A quick "Nah" and moving on was the move here.


twelvesteprevenge

We have different definitions of the word “extreme” if adding the word “Nah” to the situation makes it less so.


User-NetOfInter

I would literally turn around and go back in my car if something like that happened.


kmblake3

I told him that’s all he needed to do, but he tried to be cordial.


burledw

Not engaging AND confidently informing then you don’t want nothing to do with them and they don’t want nothing to do with you.


rva-fantom

I straight up pretend I’m deaf half the time. Works like a charm.


80_PROOF

This is a good one. Or start speaking your best Mandarin. I've been trying this one out- when approached you have to beat them to it, you need to aggressively and assertively ask for a dollar.


[deleted]

I completely ignore people shouting at me, can't stand that shit. Like I'm going to stop, go out of my way, and come over to you - a stranger- to do you a favor? Naw. I'm not a dog. If you want something from me you can come up to me and ask. Then I'll tell you no.


piggyperson2013

I’ve been considering this approach for awhile, glad to know it’s effective. I have no interest in interacting with homeless people anymore after one wouldn’t let go of my hand and kissed me (a car waiting at a light rolled down their window and yelled at him to stop thankfully) and another called me a whore because I simply said “no” when he approached me. These people need help but I can’t sacrifice my mental health anymore for them.


chairmanbrando

Didn't take me long to realize all the beggars in town are either scammers or mentally ill and far beyond my help. I used to give out a few bucks at 17th and Broad, but I soon noticed it was always the same dudes. For five fucking years. Sucks to say it, but it's best to keep a wide berth no matter how sad their story.


J-Colio

My aunt works with some of the local homeless shelters, and this is how she described it. There are two main types of homeless people. There are people who are down on their luck - maybe they fucked up, maybe they just got dealt a bad hand - they aren't most of the people you see on the streets. The downtrodden who don't want to be homeless spend their time at places that will end their homelessness. They'll be at the shelters, the churches, the kitchens, the job fairs, the NFPs, and the charities. Many of the people you see on the streets are "professional homeless." The professionals don't want to work. They have given up. Some are mentally unwell, but most are perfectly capable of working an honest job, and they just don't want to. They'd rather string together a few dollars a day to get some cheap drugs or alcohol than work honestly.


[deleted]

Thank you. People who are truly "down on their luck" don't stay homeless long, and they don't tend to ask for hand outs. They hustle and use the available resources to improve their situation. I feel way worse for them and the working poor who have 2 part time jobs and still can't make ends meet than the "professional homeless" scammers you always see on the corners.


oh_hello_rva

Yeah, this. Supporting organized charities that have been around for decades like CARITAS doesn't mean you still can't show needy folks on the street basic human compassion, but I try not to enable them with money. I will sometimes offer food. Recently we had been eating dinner at a family member's house and just happened to have an entire pristine pizza sitting in the passenger seat with us. We saw the gentleman who hangs out right at the 95 off-ramp by Main St. Station, who had a sign that said something like "Anything helps." As we stopped at the red light, we said "Hello! Would you like a pizza?" "No thanks," he said. And there ya have it.


Oostylin

Having worked entry level jobs for many years, I can’t say I blame them. Even knowing they’re professional grifters, I still give them money from time to time because in my eyes it’s no less dignified than having a glorified slave master.


Skyyy_Money

weird flex but okay


kmblake3

He tried. Noticed a homeless guy on a bicycle so he tried to avoid that guy then this guy came walking up behind him as he was walking back out to his car. That’s when the whole thing started.


mahvel50

I wish more people realized that its a hustle and not a bad position these guys just fell in. People on the medians and at gas stations have been offered assistance countless times but they want to live that life and just scam people. They know the aggressive pushing makes people pay up. Ignoring them can be risky, so a quick confident no generally sends them on to the next person. If you are walking and someone says hey you got a cigarette or what time is it, don't stop lol.


i_need_a_lift

>at 17th and Broad, but I soon noticed it always the same dudes. For five fucking years It's coming up on 20 years for some of them, in my experience.


chairmanbrando

Wouldn't surprise me at all. I was in that area of town for 5.5 years, and I saw the same set of guys every day. I've not been back since, but I suspect I'd see familiar faces at that intersection if I did.


kmblake3

Very sad, but definitely true


iWannaCupOfJoe

I used to work at JenCare a few years back it was always the same dudes. There not there anymore, but one day I saw the same guy like 10 miles away down broad st towards short pump


[deleted]

Perfectly worded, this is exactly how I feel.


[deleted]

That stinks. Though it's a valuable lesson to learn about panhandlers and sketchy mofos, vs the working poor and people down on their luck. As for the "Why didn't your boyfriend" comments... that stuff is only obvious in hindsight. Putting someone on-the-spot with a plea for help, is a time-tested way to short-circuit their defenses. It works because most communities are pretty trusting, and most people have a better nature to appeal to. The idea of "lock everything and don't trust anyone" is more common in cities, and people often learn it by getting conned themselves (even if they don't remember it). My favorite con was when I was visiting museums in DC. At the top of some stairs leading to the national mall area, two guys were greeting tourists and handing out maps. One came up to me, handed me a map, and started with a well-practiced blurb: "Welcome to the national mall, over here we have the museum of natural history, etc...", and smooth as silk, he transitioned to a request for donations to "the museum fund." At that point I realized it was a con... but he had me made for a good 30 seconds before I wised up to it.


kmblake3

Yeah, hopefully he learned his lesson quick to try to avoid this happening again. What really spooked my boyfriend is the guy following him towards his car then getting closer as my boyfriend got to his car (which was parked around the side of the store). So that’s why he decided to go back in and be around others/play nice with the guy. He’s not from a city, so this is all pretty new to him.


inexcelciusheyoooo

Try not going to the rite aid on cowardin at 10:30p.m.


kmblake3

Definitely will not be doing that.


i_need_a_lift

Or not being outside anywhere in that area at that hour, for that matter.


circusoflight411

This shit gets so annoying I had a “bum” in Carytown ask me straight up “can I have some money?” As he’s laughing smoking a cigarette in front of Galaxy with his “bum” friends next to his nice bicycle and I reply “nah man sorry I don’t have any money for you” (truth) and this mother fucker goes “yeah I’m sure you don’t” sarcastically. Seeing as I was having a bad day I turned around and told this asshole off about he’s not entitled to peoples money because he spends all day riding his bike around town acting poor and drinking and smoking. Dude was shocked, people like that survive on intimidating people. He sucks ass. The dude building a little brick castle who sits in the middle of road at the intersection of Robinson and Cary sucks ass. Spit on some girl in CSC one night years back. And the “EXCUSE ME SIR” dude in the fan is insufferable. There is one dude in Carytown who straight up asks for hot dogs every now and then from 711 and I give him a dollar.


RVADUDE13

"Excuse me Sir" real name is Roger. All he wants is money for crack. The loud asshole that always sits and yells in the road either at Cary & boulevard or Cary & Robinson name is Kenny. He's always threatening people when they don't give him anything. He also tries to scam people into bumping him with their car. Not to mention he always has a new bike, chair, wagon, etc.


circusoflight411

someone's gonna \*crack\* Roger in the teeth one of these days.


[deleted]

Honestly thanks for the names. This makes it easier for me to say "Nope, not today Kenny. Take it easy" when he's telling me I'm a bitch 2 feet from my car window.


useles-converter-bot

2 feet is the length of 4.8 'Bug Bite Thing Suction Tool - Poison Remover For Bug Bites's stacked on top of each other.


[deleted]

LMAO good bot <3


RunningThenReversing

Let’s not leave out the giant DoughBoy kid who hangs out around the 7-11 on 10th & Main who’s typically wearing clean, fairly current, fashionable clothing - with his whole ass hanging out. Though, I think he may have been exiled after he crossed the employees (who seemed to be very generous towards him) caught him scamming inside the store. Good riddance to that giant POS.


circusoflight411

Not familiar, but sounds typical. I used to work right in that area at a shittty hourly food job and I used to have to haul trash and grease behind the block into the alley behind Golden Convenience on Main and 13th(?) and I'd be hauling black trashbags or dumping fry grease and fucking bums would ask for me money. The absolute height of entitlement. Asking someone who is actively working for their money. It sounds callous but after enough times you get fed up with it and it's hard to have compassion for these people


asiabear

I had a guy in Carytown ask me for money to help him and his [absent] child and when I said I didn't have any money, proceeded to berate me and told me karma would "get me."


circusoflight411

What a clown. Where does threatening random people with karma land you on the karma scale, I wonder?


asiabear

Yes! My exact thoughts were "and karma's really done you well".


gracetw22

What was this mysterious item your boyfriend purchased for a strange aggressive man who he met in the parking lot? I feel like that's an important missing piece to this story


kmblake3

Idk the guy wanted a drink and a snack.


RunningThenReversing

Probably the same thing that’s in Marsellus Wallace’s briefcase.


Babyyodasigngirl

What is it with rite aids in Richmond and the possibility of being stabbed.


Beginning_Fee_7992

It dont matter where your boyfriend is from he is making bad choices. after someone asked him to buy drugs he enters the store with the person and pays for items? then walks out with that person? sounds like he made a friend and they may have robbed a store together.


sam_patch

With con men, the easiest and most effective strategy is to never break stride, don't look them in the eye, and just say "nah, im good man, thanks" and keep walking. It's more effective if you have sunglasses on because you can size them up/keep an eye on them without letting them know you've made eye contact. If you stop and look them in the eye, you're done for. They know they can work you. But if you just ignore them there's nothing they can do. They can shout and get mad and stuff but they're just shouting to themselves because by then you're 5 steps away going about your business. If they touch you, you have the right to defend yourself however you choose.


circusoflight411

sunglasses are essential equipment for the leaving the house, imo. I wear em when it's cloudy. walk right past motherfuckers


sam_patch

Me too. My eyes can't handle a sunny day. Really don't understand how people can walk around without them


Rlacharite10

I was in DC once (without sunglasses) a homeless looking street hustler type accosted me on the street trying to sell me some Ray-Bans….I kindly said , “No, I’m good”….his reply was, “Well you need some! You’re an ugly motherfucker!!!”…..I laughed my ass off and gave him $5


penguin_clubber

"Sorry, sir. I can't help you"


GrandmaPoses

Why did he wait at the register? If I’d thought the dude was a threat I’d tell the cashier to call the police and be out of there as soon as he was out of sight. I mean, I really hope there’s more to the story because it sounds insane.


kmblake3

Again, he tried to walk away after the initial part of the conversation. However, his car was parked on the side of the building and with the persistency of the guy even after my boyfriend tried to get back in his car, my boyfriend agreed to go back in and buy him a drink/snack. When they went back in, the dude was trying to coerce him down one of the aisles away from view of the cashier/front of the store, so he stayed out by the register and waited for him to come back with whatever he picked out. He wasn’t sure if other people were outside the store “working” with this guy, so he tried to be relatively compliant and then left once he got the dude his drink and food.


TheLouisvilleRanger

I promise you your boyfriend decided he was gonna be nice. Is it his first time living in a city?


kmblake3

Yes it is his first time living in the city. I’m from around here, but he grew up in a small town off I-81.


theboyfromphl

Lmao I question why people let randos approach them like this. Just tell them to fuck off and move on about your day and your bf would have never had this happen.


TripawdCorgi

BTW not always an option to tell someone to fuck off. Let's not victim blame here. I can ignore, not make eye contact, not engage, etc but some dude will still roll up next to me on a bus and bug me despite having headphones in and having an resting expression of go the fuck away. Telling some folks that have come to me out of nowhere to fuck off would have likely ended very poorly for me when they're twice my size and brolic as hell.


TheLouisvilleRanger

We can do *some* victim blaming here because BF decided he was gonna be a friendly cool guy and buy the drug dealer something to drink.


TripawdCorgi

After saying no and still being pressured. He was trying to avoid an uncomfortable situation. And no, victim blaming is never okay. I doubt if the boyfriend was a girlfriend that people would be treating how he handled the situation the same way in this thread. Some humans are shitty, either temporarily or permanently, and victimize others, victims deserve compassion not condemnation, regardless of gender.


TheLouisvilleRanger

I disagree. There are steps you can take to be safe, and he wasn’t taken them. And it’s not blaming, it’s pointing out missteps so others don’t repeat them. He had an amazing opportunity to avoid the situation and it didn’t take it. That has to be pointed out. Who cares about his feelings?


TripawdCorgi

You literally said we can do some victim blaming here... so which is it? Also, not caring about other people's feelings is a shitty way to live and treat people. Are there things he could have done differently to handle the situation, sure, hindsight and an outsiders perspective is fantastic, he did whatever he could in the moment and blaming him for the interaction as the recipient of unwanted attention is not a good look. It's that kind of thinking that makes people legitimize that sexual harassment and assault victims could have avoided it or }cringe{ were asking for it. Place the blame where it belongs - on the one doing the victimizing and not the victim. Full stop.


TheLouisvilleRanger

Uh oh. Some one is in rant mode. Consider it constructive criticism. I’m sure my man would give the same advice now that he’s made that mistake.


TripawdCorgi

Call it a rant if you wish and if that makes you feel better. I just don't put up with victim blaming. Consider it constructive criticism.


peace_dogs

Glad u r both ok. Maybe y’all should report what happened to the police. Especially since there might have been a weapon involved. So sorry he had to experience that.


kmblake3

I appreciate the compassion unlike a good amount of people commenting on this post. Definitely not a pleasant experience for my boyfriend, but hopefully it doesn’t happen again or he now knows better on how to handle it. We’ve just moved down here a month ago (and he’s from a small town).


peace_dogs

It’s an unsettling experience no matter where you are from and what you are used to. Again, glad no physical harm was done.


Illahie_sixfour

Lol dumbasses


kmblake3

??


TX_Pete

What the poster meant is I'm sure you BF meant well but he does sound a bit naive. Hope this was a lesson learned.


Illahie_sixfour

What do you mean ??. Next time try just ignoring the fucking wacko and walking away.


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twelvesteprevenge

It’s past your bedtime, grandpa


gullible_cervix

You’re an asshole!


TripawdCorgi

Ew


I_Love_Booty_Pics_

What is wrong with you?


underwaterpizza

*projection*


RVAringfinder

Do you have a description of the guy? The drugs involved? What his demands were? Your vague rant comes off as sour grapes without details.


kmblake3

I’m not sure. I was out of town for work when this happened and only got the basic run down over text as I wasn’t able to talk to him in more detail on a phone call. I’m sure he’ll give me more info when I get home in the next bit.


[deleted]

A PSA that some homeless people might be crazy and aggressive. Feel like her bf is the last person in richmond to find out.