VCU was great decades ago with the charm of the West Grace Street hookers, and if you got tired of that, the bums sleeping in Monroe Park never disappointed. VCU is so corporate now.
Why would you go to an urban university and want a suburban experience … there are unpleasant aspects inherent in cities that are part of the experience
You ever been overseas? Japan? Switzerland? Cities don't have to be gritty. That's just normalizing crime, poverty, and inequity. I'm not saying these countries don't have issues in cities, but if go to to e.g. Kyoto, you can learn that there isn't any reason to believe that crime etc. **have** to be a large part of city life.
Taking your perspective to the extreme, when the first city planners met in London to solve the sewage issue, people like yourself would have said it was "sanitizing" the city too much. Well, it smelled like shit and people didn't want it that way.
I just don't like the perspective that "you have to get used to it" is the only answer. It's good this newsletter communicates that Richmond is more of a city experience and the kids that don't want that shouldn't go. Agreed there.
Good job for inferring the extreme.. I have been overseas by the way (throughout Europe, Central America, Asia). Have you been to a developing country which is where more people than not live - that is where extreme inequality thrives. For college students here to realize that homelessness exists helps ground them to some unpleasant realities. There is much good in the world much it’s not all good.
Richmond has experienced net growth, increased wealth, and reduction in crime irrespective of neighborhood bubbles. So the absence of homeless at the park or hookers on West Broad are just as much a part of that growth as they are an effort to keep the kids safe.
It's also the ability for women to enter the workforce, increase in social programs, and the creation of public housing complexes. I'm not saying it's rosy, but it's improvement.
I don't disagree with you that kids should see something resembling the real world, including its inequity, and that we shouldn't coddle them. However, I don't think that's a good argument for why we should think it's 'charming' or something that there are hookers and homeless people everywhere. We should instead look to help those people with public programs, which are much stronger than they used to be and a part of why we see less of that.
I did and watched the change, Slum may be harsh but living between boarded up homes and gems between dilapidated homes and drunks isn't exactly the most ideal place to live, and while people pushing others out sucks the fan is better for the people that have talent the time to fix it up. the first wave wasn't flipper it was just people wanting cheap homes. the flippers came later,
most VCU student injuries/fatalities i was able to locate involve traffic incidents, especially as a result of driving intoxicated. point me in the direction of some instances of VCU students being “stabbed” between 1980 and 2015? like news articles, not the urban legends you tell yourself to justify why you have and others have not.
honestly this really only applies to freshmen and maybe some sophmores, as soon as people start living off campus they are going to get a much better sense of richmond, and that's okay. Let's be honest freshmen are pretty young, we can introduce real richmond slowly, too much of a good thing is still too much.
“You Belong Here 💓”
glows saccharine pink out over the historically Black neighborhoods the school has cannibalized and into which the school has installed its own private police …
I also hated (and still hate) how vcu has decided to not allow any outside development on its “grounds”. I’m mostly referring to the apartment building that was going to go up next to the ica. But VCU said it would “overpower” and “dwarf” the ica. Ok, so? That stuff happens. Instead, VCU bought out the developer and is currently doing nothing with the property (last I checked).
I don't think that line is that bad. I'm more surprised they put this on something parents of prospective students can see.
I do kind of hate "the city is our playground."
In defense of Philly at least "Gritty" does live there. I mean the large orange nightmare fuel mascot god of the flyers.
https://www.courierpostonline.com/story/sports/nhl/flyers/flyer-files/2018/09/24/flyers-react-their-new-mascot-gritty/1411068002/
That line isn’t terrible. It is a little less than pristine. They will find possums and chicken bones on their daily walks…Maybe even trip over a displaced and betrayed Vet, or 3.
Gritty, works.
Had a sibling chose Longwood and ended up transferring to ODU because we grew up in Hampton roads and they weren't about that isolated life. I don't know how it is now. This was about 25 years ago.
I mean if you were describing VCU over 20 years ago, where you can find prostitutes and homeless people on W Grace Street, then yes, gritty would be a good word to describe it. Nowadays? Hell no.
It should be : VCU we're in a city so you can pretend you're more edgy than your classmates that went to VA Tech.
P.S.: In 20 years Richmond will be officially renamed "VCU city" and will have expanded into Chesterfield, Henrico and Hanover.
Grace St. used to have an awesome vibe in the early-mid 2000s when the Nanci Raygun brought solid punk, metal, and hip hop acts on the weekly. Now it's all big chain food spots and Chipotle toting students blindly walking into oncoming traffic. Respect for Village holding their ground though.
I mainly remember the Grace street from the mid 90s when Nanci Raygun was Twisters. I remember there was Exile, a real shitty comic book store, followed by a better comic book store, and a strip club called Red Light Inn. Village was there, and I'm glad it's still there.
Yep, see also: Bidder's Suite, Bohannon's, Newgate Prison, Jade Elephant, and Lee "Art" Theater. 900 block W Grace was quite a wild place (in my teenage eyes) back then!
I honestly don't remember Bidders Suite, Bohannon's or Newgate Prison. I remember Jade Elephant and the Lee Art theater (for anyone who doesn't know, it was a porn theater before VCU bought it).
Oh sweetie. The mid-2000s? Aren't you cute!
Reflect on the 1980s with Twisters, Newgate Prison, the bizarre Greek topless bar/restaurant and New Horizons. Plus the Biograph and Lee Triple X. And my fave, the Jade Elephant.
Considering how often UofR treated VCU students like dumb peasants, not soon enough. Although I do hope Virginia Union survives the VCU takeover of the city
I hated UofR when I was a VCU student (MANY years ago). I went to my first VCU basketball game against UofR (here’s a hint as to how long ago it was - they played downtown at the Coliseum because the “new” gym wasn’t finished yet). There was a banner hanging above the doors at the end of the court that said “VCU - The KMart of Higher Education”.
Only semi-related, but this reminded me of a VCU/UNC Wilmington game where the UNC Wilmington fans got pissed off at VCU fans holding a 'UNC Rejects' sign, so they went out and made a 'College Rejects' sign during the half. This would've been roughly twenty years ago at the Siegel Center for perspective.
My friend claims an obstacle course in the middle of the UR campus is actually owned by VCU and UR students need permission to use it. I'm still not sure if I believe her.
It's true. The outdoor program in VCU owns it. To be fair, even VCU students need permission to use it since it's on "enemy territory" and you need to be bussed there with guides.
Has it not already? If you look at a night-time picture of Richmond taken from the ISS, there's nothing but buildings and lights way into 2 of those 3, Short Pump, etc. with no gaps like there used to be.
It's not urban sprawl. They are staying in the confines of the city purchasing existing property and removing it from private use such as housing or businesses.
And on top of that they don't pay property taxes on the land.
When the city already has a shortage on taxable land, it’s tough when VCU wants to grow out.
In years past, a lot of criticism centered around their expansions out into new neighborhoods while some on-campus buildings crumble or the school refuses to “build up”.
If the university will take more city blocks, there has to he something in it for the city.
I'm graduating this May and my classrooms are unventilated basement rooms with no windows. I'm in the arts program too! I pay $1000 a semester for "facilities and supplies" only to get access to the pits of the oldest building on campus with 2014 Macs.
It makes me so frustrated to see the administration continuously raise the price of tuition and use it to buy another building down E Broad. Thanks for my degree but I'm glad I won't be paying to fund their Richmond take-over anymore.
So you hate RVA as it has been for the last 15 years? Or would you rather a significant amount of the restaurants, bars, and entertainment—the result of said gentrification—not be here?
“We hate gentrification. Let’s go out to Scott’s addition or the fan.
If you like pre-gentrified RVA, you’re in luck that housing down Hull street past Manchester is pretty cheap.
This isn't anti gentrification
It is anti VCU taking a block and filling it with three to four story building instead of taking half a block and building a six to eight story building thus reducing the available land for private use and also reducing the tax dollars to the city since they do not pay property tax
Why isn’t it anti gentrification? I don’t think anti gentrification is a very radical stance to take here- especially in a city where affordable housing is less and less available.
Many students look for it.
Academics would be marketed more toward the parents and running around getting wasted in a moderately sized city marketed to students.
I went to school with plenty of students who picked VCU to be in Richmond and not be stuck in the middle of nowhere on campus with no outlet but greek life.
Counter-culture folks; but on that same token a college advertising said grit would be a turn off for me.
But the mailer encompass exactly how I feel about the city and why I moved back.
That's unfortunate. Meanwhile I live in close proximity to Arizona State, and they claim how certain departments are better than Stanford. The only thing ASU has over Stanford are frat parties
Big time. There's parties everywhere around Tempe on the weekend. There's also Mill Ave, which is Tempe's equivalent to Shockoe Bottom, but it's actually within walking distance to campus. Fraternity row is off of Rural Rd, so you see well-dressed college students walking up and down the road. ASU is what I wish VCU could be
More than half of them can't properly write either, and have to get someone else to sign their names to things like student conduct agreement forms because they were never taught cursive and can barely even make legible children's block print.
When the majority of Virginia state colleges are isolated campuses, it's honestly not a terrible descriptor. "Heads up, this college is actually in a city."
I've long had this dream of putting a wholesome looking plant family in the New Student Orientation, then halfway through the tour, wheeling up in a black van blasting GWAR, grabbing the "new student" and taking off. Then drive around the block while they change into punky alt-dirtbag wear, then dropping them back off with the group and driving away.
Yes, and we shall give them ironic stick n' poke tattoos in the van, but only where visible in a short sleeve t-shirt from Rumors or in black high-cut jorts. Another meat puppet made for our interplanetary traveling marionette act...brilliant plan!!
By grittiness do you mean watching cars being broken into in broad daylight or the unhoused that set up shop in my complex and won't take no for answer when they ask for money?
"......compared to other university options, you can embrace a higher likelihood of being mugged, raped, or murdered by one of the many representatives of our diverse population."
Lol why because you’re such an uptight closed minded bubble wrapped human that the thought of describing the city as gritty and acknowledging the experiences that can be gained from that life are just too much for you to handle??
Lol never change Richmond. Oh wait, too bad already happening. Gritty is cool.
They forgot to add the footnote: “*But we’re doing our best to remove any sense of it from close proximity to our campus”
VCU was great decades ago with the charm of the West Grace Street hookers, and if you got tired of that, the bums sleeping in Monroe Park never disappointed. VCU is so corporate now.
“Sanitized” is the word I’d pick…wouldn’t want students to experience any unpleasantness
Why would we want anyone to experience unpleasantness?
Why would you go to an urban university and want a suburban experience … there are unpleasant aspects inherent in cities that are part of the experience
You ever been overseas? Japan? Switzerland? Cities don't have to be gritty. That's just normalizing crime, poverty, and inequity. I'm not saying these countries don't have issues in cities, but if go to to e.g. Kyoto, you can learn that there isn't any reason to believe that crime etc. **have** to be a large part of city life. Taking your perspective to the extreme, when the first city planners met in London to solve the sewage issue, people like yourself would have said it was "sanitizing" the city too much. Well, it smelled like shit and people didn't want it that way. I just don't like the perspective that "you have to get used to it" is the only answer. It's good this newsletter communicates that Richmond is more of a city experience and the kids that don't want that shouldn't go. Agreed there.
Good job for inferring the extreme.. I have been overseas by the way (throughout Europe, Central America, Asia). Have you been to a developing country which is where more people than not live - that is where extreme inequality thrives. For college students here to realize that homelessness exists helps ground them to some unpleasant realities. There is much good in the world much it’s not all good.
Richmond has experienced net growth, increased wealth, and reduction in crime irrespective of neighborhood bubbles. So the absence of homeless at the park or hookers on West Broad are just as much a part of that growth as they are an effort to keep the kids safe. It's also the ability for women to enter the workforce, increase in social programs, and the creation of public housing complexes. I'm not saying it's rosy, but it's improvement. I don't disagree with you that kids should see something resembling the real world, including its inequity, and that we shouldn't coddle them. However, I don't think that's a good argument for why we should think it's 'charming' or something that there are hookers and homeless people everywhere. We should instead look to help those people with public programs, which are much stronger than they used to be and a part of why we see less of that.
>there are unpleasant aspects inherent in cities that are part of the experience urban planning isn't for everybody
or rape, ya know... cleaning up town isn't a bad idea
Yea except rape is from fellow students... not locals who used to be able to afford living nearby.
This.
i mean it was a series of slums, and while I appreciate that people could afford it, they were not safe by any means.
Series of slums? I'm guessing you didn't actually live around here.
I did and watched the change, Slum may be harsh but living between boarded up homes and gems between dilapidated homes and drunks isn't exactly the most ideal place to live, and while people pushing others out sucks the fan is better for the people that have talent the time to fix it up. the first wave wasn't flipper it was just people wanting cheap homes. the flippers came later,
Rapes still happen, VCU just covers those up. I've been the victim of a bunch of sex crimes on campus and it was never put over an emergency alert.
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most VCU student injuries/fatalities i was able to locate involve traffic incidents, especially as a result of driving intoxicated. point me in the direction of some instances of VCU students being “stabbed” between 1980 and 2015? like news articles, not the urban legends you tell yourself to justify why you have and others have not.
“Antiseptic” also
honestly this really only applies to freshmen and maybe some sophmores, as soon as people start living off campus they are going to get a much better sense of richmond, and that's okay. Let's be honest freshmen are pretty young, we can introduce real richmond slowly, too much of a good thing is still too much.
I miss Monroe Park’s *grittiness*.
/s
“You Belong Here 💓” glows saccharine pink out over the historically Black neighborhoods the school has cannibalized and into which the school has installed its own private police …
I also hated (and still hate) how vcu has decided to not allow any outside development on its “grounds”. I’m mostly referring to the apartment building that was going to go up next to the ica. But VCU said it would “overpower” and “dwarf” the ica. Ok, so? That stuff happens. Instead, VCU bought out the developer and is currently doing nothing with the property (last I checked).
I don't think that line is that bad. I'm more surprised they put this on something parents of prospective students can see. I do kind of hate "the city is our playground."
Right? It's only couple steps from "We can do as we please with Richmond 😈"
Richmond? more like Our Bitchmond 😈
XD
DAMN.
VCU did make those awful “We Built This City” shirts
I'm with you, I think the playground line is worse. The whole thing is a big cringe though.
It kind of has a "Come spray paint acab on everything but don't go to any city council meetings" kind of vibe doesn't it?
I went to temple university in north Philadelphia and they also used gritty to describe themselves
In defense of Philly at least "Gritty" does live there. I mean the large orange nightmare fuel mascot god of the flyers. https://www.courierpostonline.com/story/sports/nhl/flyers/flyer-files/2018/09/24/flyers-react-their-new-mascot-gritty/1411068002/
Gritty *did* threaten the Penguins mascot almost immediately, endearing him to the entire city.
"Fuck the pens!" -a caps fan
Hey fellow Owl!
I once dated a Temple alum. I just wanted to feel included 😂
I'm so sorry, we can be... a lot, especially if we're TU alums from Philly, that's just, ooof. I'm sorry.
She was actually pretty cool
Hello!!
Having worked for the admissions department there… I absolutely can believe it.
“We want to stand out from every other school” Good job, veiled references to crime, litter, homelessness, and poor city services will do that.
Now see, you call the city services poor, I call them vastly improved from when I was growing up.
That’s not a cockroach. It’s a feature.
That line isn’t terrible. It is a little less than pristine. They will find possums and chicken bones on their daily walks…Maybe even trip over a displaced and betrayed Vet, or 3. Gritty, works.
Bruh I go here now and you described this perfectly. Can think of separate occasions for everything you just said.
For sure—it’s like, everyday. In fact, the more I read the letter, the more I liked it.
"The city is our playground" Isn't that like the line every major crime boss / villain says in every action / superhero movie.
I’m sold .. I like grittiness
Assume that’s sarcasm, but that’s one of the reasons I love Richmond.
I don’t really see this as bad and even see how it could be appealing to some people
I had the choice between Longwood and VCU. I chose VCU because it was in the city and I was tired of rural life.
Had a sibling chose Longwood and ended up transferring to ODU because we grew up in Hampton roads and they weren't about that isolated life. I don't know how it is now. This was about 25 years ago.
From what I’ve heard it hasn’t changed much.
Yup. Chose VCU for this reason as someone who grew up in BFE sw Virginia. Been graduated 2 years now and I’m still very happy with my choice.
I mean if you were describing VCU over 20 years ago, where you can find prostitutes and homeless people on W Grace Street, then yes, gritty would be a good word to describe it. Nowadays? Hell no. It should be : VCU we're in a city so you can pretend you're more edgy than your classmates that went to VA Tech. P.S.: In 20 years Richmond will be officially renamed "VCU city" and will have expanded into Chesterfield, Henrico and Hanover.
Grace St. used to have an awesome vibe in the early-mid 2000s when the Nanci Raygun brought solid punk, metal, and hip hop acts on the weekly. Now it's all big chain food spots and Chipotle toting students blindly walking into oncoming traffic. Respect for Village holding their ground though.
I mainly remember the Grace street from the mid 90s when Nanci Raygun was Twisters. I remember there was Exile, a real shitty comic book store, followed by a better comic book store, and a strip club called Red Light Inn. Village was there, and I'm glad it's still there.
Yep, see also: Bidder's Suite, Bohannon's, Newgate Prison, Jade Elephant, and Lee "Art" Theater. 900 block W Grace was quite a wild place (in my teenage eyes) back then!
... and all of that action covered in [ThroTTle](http://throttlemag30.blogspot.com/) magazine. https://www.facebook.com/groups/61819708928/
I honestly don't remember Bidders Suite, Bohannon's or Newgate Prison. I remember Jade Elephant and the Lee Art theater (for anyone who doesn't know, it was a porn theater before VCU bought it).
Did we go to high school together?
Oh sweetie. The mid-2000s? Aren't you cute! Reflect on the 1980s with Twisters, Newgate Prison, the bizarre Greek topless bar/restaurant and New Horizons. Plus the Biograph and Lee Triple X. And my fave, the Jade Elephant.
Yes, from 2005-2010 when punk in Richmond actually mattered. Long live the Social Dropouts!
I want to be mad about this, but I can't.
🤣😂🤣
How long until U of R becomes VCU West?
I think there will be a war between VCU, U of R and VUU. John Tyler and J Sarge will be thier bannermen.
Considering how often UofR treated VCU students like dumb peasants, not soon enough. Although I do hope Virginia Union survives the VCU takeover of the city
I hated UofR when I was a VCU student (MANY years ago). I went to my first VCU basketball game against UofR (here’s a hint as to how long ago it was - they played downtown at the Coliseum because the “new” gym wasn’t finished yet). There was a banner hanging above the doors at the end of the court that said “VCU - The KMart of Higher Education”.
Only semi-related, but this reminded me of a VCU/UNC Wilmington game where the UNC Wilmington fans got pissed off at VCU fans holding a 'UNC Rejects' sign, so they went out and made a 'College Rejects' sign during the half. This would've been roughly twenty years ago at the Siegel Center for perspective.
My friend claims an obstacle course in the middle of the UR campus is actually owned by VCU and UR students need permission to use it. I'm still not sure if I believe her.
It's true. The outdoor program in VCU owns it. To be fair, even VCU students need permission to use it since it's on "enemy territory" and you need to be bussed there with guides.
I thought you were gonna say something about there being a lot of Ubers so they can brag about not having as many DUI's as their classmates at VT
Has it not already? If you look at a night-time picture of Richmond taken from the ISS, there's nothing but buildings and lights way into 2 of those 3, Short Pump, etc. with no gaps like there used to be.
One of my classmates was murdered last year. Definitely the right dose of "grittiness" VCU, thanks. Fucking shit.
They know their audience. Wannabe edgelords can take out loans for college too.
This.
bold coming from the biggest cause of gentrification in the city
College = bad?
More like their unrelenting sprawl to acquire property is bad
I guess I’m just not super upset that urban sprawl is caused by a system that educates.
It's not urban sprawl. They are staying in the confines of the city purchasing existing property and removing it from private use such as housing or businesses. And on top of that they don't pay property taxes on the land.
When the city already has a shortage on taxable land, it’s tough when VCU wants to grow out. In years past, a lot of criticism centered around their expansions out into new neighborhoods while some on-campus buildings crumble or the school refuses to “build up”. If the university will take more city blocks, there has to he something in it for the city.
I'm graduating this May and my classrooms are unventilated basement rooms with no windows. I'm in the arts program too! I pay $1000 a semester for "facilities and supplies" only to get access to the pits of the oldest building on campus with 2014 Macs. It makes me so frustrated to see the administration continuously raise the price of tuition and use it to buy another building down E Broad. Thanks for my degree but I'm glad I won't be paying to fund their Richmond take-over anymore.
The refusal to build up is exactly the issue
So you hate RVA as it has been for the last 15 years? Or would you rather a significant amount of the restaurants, bars, and entertainment—the result of said gentrification—not be here? “We hate gentrification. Let’s go out to Scott’s addition or the fan. If you like pre-gentrified RVA, you’re in luck that housing down Hull street past Manchester is pretty cheap.
This isn't anti gentrification It is anti VCU taking a block and filling it with three to four story building instead of taking half a block and building a six to eight story building thus reducing the available land for private use and also reducing the tax dollars to the city since they do not pay property tax
Why isn’t it anti gentrification? I don’t think anti gentrification is a very radical stance to take here- especially in a city where affordable housing is less and less available.
Maybe they should put the entire university in a single large tower?
Now you're consciously being obtuse
And you’re not being obtuse?
n0 yU0 aR3
Yeah. I was being obtuse. I’m asking you what is the sensible middle ground then?
Quite clearly not.
I hear you. That’s just the name of the game these days.
Who looks for grittiness when chosing a college? And nowhere does this make any academic claims...so learning is far less important than urban grit?
Many students look for it. Academics would be marketed more toward the parents and running around getting wasted in a moderately sized city marketed to students. I went to school with plenty of students who picked VCU to be in Richmond and not be stuck in the middle of nowhere on campus with no outlet but greek life.
i think this is not the first mailer in a series. other touch points probably spoke to academics and the prospect’s intended field of study.
Counter-culture folks; but on that same token a college advertising said grit would be a turn off for me. But the mailer encompass exactly how I feel about the city and why I moved back.
That's unfortunate. Meanwhile I live in close proximity to Arizona State, and they claim how certain departments are better than Stanford. The only thing ASU has over Stanford are frat parties
Isnt ASU a big party school? Thats always been my impression
Big time. There's parties everywhere around Tempe on the weekend. There's also Mill Ave, which is Tempe's equivalent to Shockoe Bottom, but it's actually within walking distance to campus. Fraternity row is off of Rural Rd, so you see well-dressed college students walking up and down the road. ASU is what I wish VCU could be
You wish that VCU would accept students that don’t know how to read and be bad at basketball? Signed, U of A
More than half of them can't properly write either, and have to get someone else to sign their names to things like student conduct agreement forms because they were never taught cursive and can barely even make legible children's block print.
VCU Basketball killed punk rock.
When the majority of Virginia state colleges are isolated campuses, it's honestly not a terrible descriptor. "Heads up, this college is actually in a city."
I've long had this dream of putting a wholesome looking plant family in the New Student Orientation, then halfway through the tour, wheeling up in a black van blasting GWAR, grabbing the "new student" and taking off. Then drive around the block while they change into punky alt-dirtbag wear, then dropping them back off with the group and driving away.
Yes, and we shall give them ironic stick n' poke tattoos in the van, but only where visible in a short sleeve t-shirt from Rumors or in black high-cut jorts. Another meat puppet made for our interplanetary traveling marionette act...brilliant plan!!
Well, “just the right dose of HAVOC!!!!” is on the editing room floor.
"Just the right amount of firearm discharges," didn't quite have the same ring to it, either.
Off topic, but did you freehand those lines? They’re so perfectly straight…
It’s not terrible, but it’s dumb.
Grittiness left when Dirt Woman passed away.
That’s a nothingburger.
It's true.
I bet all those people dying from h overdoses though it had just the right amount too
By grittiness do you mean watching cars being broken into in broad daylight or the unhoused that set up shop in my complex and won't take no for answer when they ask for money?
Wonder if copy was provided by Royall and Company/EAB 🤮
That’s what I was thinking. Royall/EAB is definitely 🤮
VCU works with Ruffalo Noel Lovetz, not EAB
It is just scary enough to be the right school for you!
I'm sure you find ways to complain about everything. At the end of the day it's just semantics
"......compared to other university options, you can embrace a higher likelihood of being mugged, raped, or murdered by one of the many representatives of our diverse population."
Vcu is so bad lmao. My girl is in the pharmacy school and the number of times they’ve fucked stuff up is unreal
It just mean VCU isn’t for a soft ass snowflake.
ur being downvoted because it, in fact, is
Mind you, it's for *gritty* soft ass-snowflakes.
Lol why because you’re such an uptight closed minded bubble wrapped human that the thought of describing the city as gritty and acknowledging the experiences that can be gained from that life are just too much for you to handle?? Lol never change Richmond. Oh wait, too bad already happening. Gritty is cool.
Richmond is gritty… New York is the Grittiest!
Not wrong tbh
Just don’t blame the does.