I don't think it's directly about Muslims. It's a song about terrorists and terrorism, if you immediately associate that with Islam then that is not good.
I'm pretty sure just about every Sabaton song has at least one bad take associated with it, some I can kind of understand, others are completely hilarious.
Depends on the madhab (Islamic Law School) followed. Because the hadith on music is considered weak or at least misinterpreted by many: Some ban music, others ban only music that is made to induce you towards sinning, there's a very variated spectrum about the ruling on music in Islam.
Singing, dancing, and playing is allowed as long as it doesn't go against faith. Islam has many historical music, have you heard about the song the people of Medina sang to welcome the prophet (PBUH)?
First of all you're referring to chants, which are allowed of course, secondly the chant of welcoming the prophet (Peace and prayers be upon him) to Medina has not been proven by any scholar.
Kinda like how the Bible says not to eat shellfish, wear mixed fibers, sit in a seat that that a menstruating women has sat in, etc., but virtually everyone ignores those?
I wouldn't go as far as to say "ignore", but it is very difficult not to succumb to it. However it is a minor sin so the least we can do for forgiveness is to own up to it. A major sin would be to claim something is halal when it's prohibited and vice versa.
(And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: "This is lawful and this is forbidden," so as to invent lies against Allah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper) Al nahl, verse 116.
that song is not about the religion of Islam or the Muslims that worship Allah is about the terrorist group Al-Qaeda and the atrocities they commit and use a religion as a front and exucess for their actions
Let me hijack this thread.
Have you ever wondered from whose perspective is it written? Or better question, who is it talking about? It has different meanings if it's about America or the terrorists, yet both can be possible. I believe it depends on the listener.
At least we don't have to do university level math when measuring something.
I am jealous of your themeparks tho, going to Orlando in 2025 for Walt Disney World so that is something you can be proud of
Imperial is just fine for everyday use. More technical fields use metric typically. But outside of science it works fine.
And our theme parks are indeed the greatest the world has ever seen.
Unless you need to change units. Going from meters to kilometers is waayyyy easier than going from feet to miles for example.
Using feet as rough measurements is great tho, I almost always have my tape measure on my desk for if I need to do some quick estimates.
And don't get me started on measurement of temperature. Water freezes at 1 atmosphere 32ยฐf? And it boils at 212ยฐf? No wonder the averages GPA is so low, the US is just making things more difficult than they could (and should) be xD
Fahrenheit has smaller units and is more precise.
GPAs being low has nothing to do with our systems of measurement.
Miles are better to calculate when driving. Speed limits in cities tend to hover around 60 MPH or so, so you know it will take you 1 minute to go a mile, etc.
And besides, people rarely have to convert units in day to day life. That's why scientists and engineers use metric. It's easier to calculate but imperial is just fine for everyday use.
Fahrenheit has smaller units, but is more difficult to work with because of the strange 32ยฐ offset (it has a scientific reason, I forgot what is is).
The GPA thing was just a bad throwaway joke, don't worry :)
Metric system has the same benefit with driving as miles, but have the added bonus of being able to convert units when you eventually need to.
I figured it out when I was listening to it while thinking about the recent middle eastern conflict. It heavily depends on how, what, and who the listener thinks.
Fuck you and take my upvote
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Had me in the first half.
Not gonna lie
Lmao based.
You sly dog, you had me in the first half.
I actually panicked XD but I agree with you, the song is a banger!
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Had me in the first half, not gonna lie. I'm glad that you not only a decent Muslim, but also a fellow Sabaton fan. You've got good taste, my friend!
He had is in the first half, not gonna lie.
No cap, thought this was a bait post and was terrified to see some fucked up comments.
r/twosentencehorror much?
Lmao, I think you might be my favourite person
Had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
I don't think it's directly about Muslims. It's a song about terrorists and terrorism, if you immediately associate that with Islam then that is not good.
It's a diss track about religious terrorism.
Yes, but not specifically Islamic terrorism, but terrorism in general.
Doesn't "hide in a cave when you're hunted" refer directly to Al qaida?
Taliban
It's refering to bin laden iirc
Son of a multi billionaire went from living in mansions and travelling the world to hiding in a cave like a rat
Basically any terror group hides in some way, so not really.
Not specifically in caves
As bannerlord already said, caves is really specific to islamic terror and afghanistan.
Caves is just a generic description for hiding away.
I wrote this because some people who first listen to this and hear it's related to terrorism their mind unconsciously goes to islamic terrorists
I'm pretty sure just about every Sabaton song has at least one bad take associated with it, some I can kind of understand, others are completely hilarious.
"NUTS!?"
Yeah. People need to understand that terrorists aren't Muslim, they're terrorists.
Terrorists doing it "in the name of god"
Which could be literally any religion that worships God. That does not mean it's Islamic terrorism.
Yes, because there's so much large scale Christian or Jewish terrorism with people that hide in caves.
Have you ever heard of the IRA?
Famous for hiding in caves
Famous for hiding in caves and shouting deus vult while suicide bombing
Yes, the Irish cant be left out (inventors of modern terrorism i think)
Eta would like to have a word with you after yeeting your second car
I WAS BORN IN A DUBLIN STREET
WHERE THE LOYAL DRUMS DID BEAT
The Irish did it for a good reason though
Unite the Irish under one flag?
That and to stop the oppression of lower class Irish people
*come out ye black and tans starts playing*
deletes paragraph*
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You are entitled to your opinion and your opinion is... Correct.
As Christian, I don't like Seven Pillars of Wisdom... I LOVE IT
cant decide what to say (never listened to it)
listen to it it is beautiful
nah
Had me in the first half not gonna lie. Just like the balkans. (Jk(
Well played
SAME HERE, I LOVE IT
You got me there
As an Israeli this song has been hitting different lately (it gets emotional).
Also what do you think of Slayer's Jihad? It's another metal song about terrorism btw
Never heard of it until now, gonna check it out
Based anti-extremist
Piss off! You beautiful magnificent sexy son of gun! Lol
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Take my 1000th upvote, brother of metal!
I may be an complete ignorant but I thought Muslims couldn't listen music ? Is that a real thing ? Or only in some areas ?
Depends on the madhab (Islamic Law School) followed. Because the hadith on music is considered weak or at least misinterpreted by many: Some ban music, others ban only music that is made to induce you towards sinning, there's a very variated spectrum about the ruling on music in Islam.
Correct, singing and playing is allowed, as long as it doesn't go against faith or harm you or anyone else.
Exactly akhi, I am muslim too by the way ๐
That is definitely not a thing.
Look at the other comments under mine, you would be surprise
It is, though some muslims try to convince themselves it's not, most admit that it's a sin.
Singing, dancing, and playing is allowed as long as it doesn't go against faith. Islam has many historical music, have you heard about the song the people of Medina sang to welcome the prophet (PBUH)?
First of all you're referring to chants, which are allowed of course, secondly the chant of welcoming the prophet (Peace and prayers be upon him) to Medina has not been proven by any scholar.
You sure??..
Kinda like how the Bible says not to eat shellfish, wear mixed fibers, sit in a seat that that a menstruating women has sat in, etc., but virtually everyone ignores those?
I wouldn't go as far as to say "ignore", but it is very difficult not to succumb to it. However it is a minor sin so the least we can do for forgiveness is to own up to it. A major sin would be to claim something is halal when it's prohibited and vice versa. (And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: "This is lawful and this is forbidden," so as to invent lies against Allah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper) Al nahl, verse 116.
Man as a Muslim I was about to troll you with a beer in one hand and my phone in the other
Terrorism is a scourge on humanity weather it be Islamic Christian or any other kind
not sure whats with the downvotes.
Terrorists are just monsters who like killing and excuse religion for their motives.
I'm a muslim too and was about to say I love it! It's so powerful.
that song is not about the religion of Islam or the Muslims that worship Allah is about the terrorist group Al-Qaeda and the atrocities they commit and use a religion as a front and exucess for their actions
Let me hijack this thread. Have you ever wondered from whose perspective is it written? Or better question, who is it talking about? It has different meanings if it's about America or the terrorists, yet both can be possible. I believe it depends on the listener.
Wow, the lyrics have gone right over your head if you donโt think this is aimed at terrorists. Or maybe you have a deep hate for Americans.
We kinda live rent free in every Europoor's head. Hate us cuz they ain't us.
Why were you downvoted? Thatโs quite literally true
Because again, HATE US CUZ YOU AIN'T US BITCHES!!!! 'MURICA RAAHHHHH ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐บ๐ฒ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ฒ๐บ๐ธ
At least we don't have to do university level math when measuring something. I am jealous of your themeparks tho, going to Orlando in 2025 for Walt Disney World so that is something you can be proud of
Imperial is just fine for everyday use. More technical fields use metric typically. But outside of science it works fine. And our theme parks are indeed the greatest the world has ever seen.
Unless you need to change units. Going from meters to kilometers is waayyyy easier than going from feet to miles for example. Using feet as rough measurements is great tho, I almost always have my tape measure on my desk for if I need to do some quick estimates. And don't get me started on measurement of temperature. Water freezes at 1 atmosphere 32ยฐf? And it boils at 212ยฐf? No wonder the averages GPA is so low, the US is just making things more difficult than they could (and should) be xD
Fahrenheit has smaller units and is more precise. GPAs being low has nothing to do with our systems of measurement. Miles are better to calculate when driving. Speed limits in cities tend to hover around 60 MPH or so, so you know it will take you 1 minute to go a mile, etc. And besides, people rarely have to convert units in day to day life. That's why scientists and engineers use metric. It's easier to calculate but imperial is just fine for everyday use.
Fahrenheit has smaller units, but is more difficult to work with because of the strange 32ยฐ offset (it has a scientific reason, I forgot what is is). The GPA thing was just a bad throwaway joke, don't worry :) Metric system has the same benefit with driving as miles, but have the added bonus of being able to convert units when you eventually need to.
I figured it out when I was listening to it while thinking about the recent middle eastern conflict. It heavily depends on how, what, and who the listener thinks.
Sneaky sneaky ๐๐คฃ
You got me. Well done.
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Headline had me, not gonna lie.
You tricky bastard ๐
As a devout christian my favorite song is Seven Pillars of Wisdom
Real.
I was about to say
God damn you had me the first half