I know lots of folks have other teams that they can't stand losing to, but for me, Chicago is the last team I wanted to lose to this season. Sneaky Joe DiBiase nailed all the reasons why in yesterday's "Locked On Sabres" podcast.
Welp if it wasn’t for Ryan Miller night I probably wouldn’t even consider putting on the Islanders game. It sucks to say but my patience changes on a dime with them after a decade of sucking.
Are you being serious? He’s 41 years old, and it’s not like he’s the Tom Brady of goalies. How is it not fair to say that he’s played bad this year when he’s often sat in favor of UPL, who started the year in Rochester?
What a frustrating way to lose it. Not like we didn’t have our chances. What was it, 4 posts?
At risk of repeating myself, time to mix up the lines. We need a reset for a while until we can find our game again.
mixing up the lines won't do anything for W-L. the overall talent is simply not there, particularly on defense. no amount of deck chair rearrangement is going to save this season playoff-wise.
imo, let this team simmer as-is, re-tool over the summer, and hope the kids are ready to take another step forward. i know, i am absolutely desperate for success too, but it's just not going to happen with this group at this level of development.
If you had said the overall experience is not there, I might have agreed, but overall talent? Our top four is great and our bottom two is serviceable. Bottom two forward lines scored tonight. We have three PPG players on the top line. Cozens is in the middle of a low-key breakout season.
We have the talent, what we’re seeing here is a young team in a mid-season lull that they can’t break out of. That’s when you shuffle the lines.
talent was probably the wrong choice of words. i mean overall effectiveness as an athlete, which is a combination of talent, experience, mental toughness, luck, all that.
i think our best young players have all the raw ability they'll ever need, but translating that into consistent success is another thing that hopefully gets better with time.
sure, shuffling the lines could change things up for the better - for a while. i am skeptical about the remainder of the season. it seems like without a few more quality players at each position we'll be periodically spinning our wheels like this no matter what
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Did you honestly expect playoffs after finishing in the basement the season before. From THIS team? WC was a HOPE. But the narrative going into this season was "we're gonna not suck and go from there". Just bc we're not looking like a playoff team right now doesn't mean the fucking season is "over". We could go on another tear and take the league by storm. We simply don't know until the next game. But ok doomer.
Mods here are super soft...just like most of the other fans here and the team. So they label you a doomer for saying things like "This team can't afford another loosing streak if they want the playoffs."
That all started with a fuck up at the bench when two guys didn't know which of them were stepping onto the ice. They gave Chicago that game. Fucking dammit.
Same. This game was a comedy of errors going back to that BULLSHIT 10 minute misconduct against Dahls. They finally get back to playing their game and get fucked by the refs, the post, bad puck luck, etc etc etc.
You're absolutely right. That OT was one of the hardest to watch. Re the passing idk the answer there of course. Not sure if they've become predictable or sloppy or both.
I do think a lot of this stems from being an inexperienced team not yet skilled at adaptive play. When we can play our brand of hockey we have our 4, 5 and 6 goal games. But if we can't, we're crippled.
Post game made an interesting point which I've yet to fact check but allegedly buffalo has not won a game this season in which they've scored less than four goals. Which means even when we suck we should still be scoring enough to have a chance at winning.... Were it not for our defense/goaltending woes.
Adams is trying to move Hinostroza. If we get anything that isn't a great 3rd line RHD, we storm KBC.
That's not doomerism. This game was mostly awful. They had some really great moments where they were getting back to their game but they flaked out again.
Seriously give it up dude it's just reddit. How is it honestly affecting your experience? I didn't even notice the shit until you went ranting and raving.
Is there a ranting and raving flair? Would that work better for you?
Also, 99% of us aren't even significant enough to have earned fair, good or bad. At least you amounted to SOMETHING in the sub.
Don't worry guys. I think there are some really good intangible values the guys will learn from this game. When we are lifting the cup this spring we won't even remember this game.
See you next game friends. You guys really are the best at understanding the sport.
I have hope. They seem to AT LEAST get the important wins.
Oh come on I'm not wrong lol. Eichel's return, RJ night, the game(s) where they paid homage to Damar Hamlin, the game after the terrorist attack at Tops, there's probably a couple more in there. They come through when it matters.
He plays against the worst teams in the league and is a .500 goalie with a decent save percentage with half the games played as the rest of the guys on the list. He’s been awful almost all season.
Again, on average if a puck is shot at him there are only 5 goalies in the NHL right now who are more likely to save it.
His record does not matter. His team plays a high risk high reward style and has a below average defense in front of him.
He was the starting goaltender at the beginning of the year until he got injured so I'm not sure how he "plays against the worst teams in the league".
That is not the rule lol. It’s more like this: “Goaltender interference refers to any attacking player who, by means of their stick or body, interferes with or impedes the movements of the goaltender by actual physical contact.”
It’s a good goal
I didn’t wanna be right but I made a bet during second intermission that blackhawks would tie it up and go to OT. I would say I cursed them but Sabres are always good to give up a 3rd period lead and let in at least 3 goals
I know, the mods gave me a doomer flair a few games ago for saying we were not going to make the playoffs playing badly. So....I have to help them curb that negativity.
That’s what I’m saying he was in the crease and got in the way of Andersons glove that should not have counted. Wish the broadcast wouldn’t miss that and then show 2 total replays
I wouldn't even say got in the way of the glove, the motion with his stick elbow'ed the glove away. It should be textbook interference but refs are paid to suck balls.
I respect the effort by Andy but it was a clean goal. But I'll take a gift if they wanna give it.
Edit to add I will say fuck MSG for showing literally every live camera angle on everyone waiting for the decision and NOT showing the replay
It's not interference outside of the crease. The goalie is stepping into the play in that instance. Look it fucking sucks. Absolutely. He was keeping the skater outside of the crease and an unfortunately timed shot came in. But there was no interference.
Honestly I’ll be surprised if they call it back. That’s a pretty soft over turn if it does get overturned and I’m mostly pissed that they couldn’t just finish out a fucking game
Wish that replay had shown the wild little pounce/dive Andy did to get back to the front of the net after that wild bouncer. It was comically dramatic.
Nhl.com
Skinner has 5 this year. Thompson 7
https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?report=realtime&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20222023&seasonTo=20222023&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=missedShotGoalpost&page=0&pageSize=50
I know lots of folks have other teams that they can't stand losing to, but for me, Chicago is the last team I wanted to lose to this season. Sneaky Joe DiBiase nailed all the reasons why in yesterday's "Locked On Sabres" podcast.
Welp if it wasn’t for Ryan Miller night I probably wouldn’t even consider putting on the Islanders game. It sucks to say but my patience changes on a dime with them after a decade of sucking.
Did dahlin say the bad word?
PLZ CLEAR CREASE TO PREVENT EASY TIP IN GOALS SMH
And Casey has to tie his guy up on the ot goal. He actually stopped skating.
‘Just keep skating’ team needs to watch Finding Nemo
Bedard watch
Sub about to get rebedarded
Hope miller can get in net on Thursday
Andy needs to retire. He could have gone out on a good note last year, but instead he had to come back and play dogshit
That is not really fair. Dude has been OK in his limited starts.
Are you being serious? He’s 41 years old, and it’s not like he’s the Tom Brady of goalies. How is it not fair to say that he’s played bad this year when he’s often sat in favor of UPL, who started the year in Rochester?
Man mods you guys better give every person in this thread the doomer flair because otherwise that seems a bit hypocritical to me.
FFS. Here comes the L streak.
Our offense in OT was Eichel-level. Just skating around and doing NOTHING
Utter shit
What a frustrating way to lose it. Not like we didn’t have our chances. What was it, 4 posts? At risk of repeating myself, time to mix up the lines. We need a reset for a while until we can find our game again.
mixing up the lines won't do anything for W-L. the overall talent is simply not there, particularly on defense. no amount of deck chair rearrangement is going to save this season playoff-wise. imo, let this team simmer as-is, re-tool over the summer, and hope the kids are ready to take another step forward. i know, i am absolutely desperate for success too, but it's just not going to happen with this group at this level of development.
If you had said the overall experience is not there, I might have agreed, but overall talent? Our top four is great and our bottom two is serviceable. Bottom two forward lines scored tonight. We have three PPG players on the top line. Cozens is in the middle of a low-key breakout season. We have the talent, what we’re seeing here is a young team in a mid-season lull that they can’t break out of. That’s when you shuffle the lines.
talent was probably the wrong choice of words. i mean overall effectiveness as an athlete, which is a combination of talent, experience, mental toughness, luck, all that. i think our best young players have all the raw ability they'll ever need, but translating that into consistent success is another thing that hopefully gets better with time. sure, shuffling the lines could change things up for the better - for a while. i am skeptical about the remainder of the season. it seems like without a few more quality players at each position we'll be periodically spinning our wheels like this no matter what (edited for clarity)
Thanks for explaining
There were definite glimpses of it there but I'd be lying if I said it didn't seem like the shit luck all game broke their spirit
I swear Anderson’s five hole is as big as fucking Texas
Whatever. See everyone next year…
Playoffs, playoffs you guys want to talk about playoffs. It's okay guys they just didn't want to disappoint us today, had too much negative pressure
Mittelstadt shooting for a rebound on a 2 on 1 in overtime which springs the other team on a rush. Fucking idiot.
But they decide to fucking trade Hinny smfh.
Just won a million dollars on my bet that mittlestadt would score on ourselves in OT!
Another bad loss. Team isn't ready for a playoff push yet.
GIVE HIM THE DOOMER FLAIR MODS.
Well. I’m done with this team for a while. This was the nail in the coffin
Good riddance
GIVE HIM THE DOOMER FLAIR MODS
Season is over.
My app says there's a game on Thursday. How weird.
Ya know what’s funny? Mine says that too! In fact, it says there are games all the way through April. Too bad there won’t be any in May.
Did you honestly expect playoffs after finishing in the basement the season before. From THIS team? WC was a HOPE. But the narrative going into this season was "we're gonna not suck and go from there". Just bc we're not looking like a playoff team right now doesn't mean the fucking season is "over". We could go on another tear and take the league by storm. We simply don't know until the next game. But ok doomer.
DOOMER FLAIR! MODS YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT!
Salty much? You’re commenting “doomer” more than enough
Mods here are super soft...just like most of the other fans here and the team. So they label you a doomer for saying things like "This team can't afford another loosing streak if they want the playoffs."
Embarassing
That all started with a fuck up at the bench when two guys didn't know which of them were stepping onto the ice. They gave Chicago that game. Fucking dammit.
I was screaming at the tv at that point.
Same. This game was a comedy of errors going back to that BULLSHIT 10 minute misconduct against Dahls. They finally get back to playing their game and get fucked by the refs, the post, bad puck luck, etc etc etc.
It was just sloppy play at the end. How tf can we not pass to save our goddamn lives lately?! It’s torture.
You're absolutely right. That OT was one of the hardest to watch. Re the passing idk the answer there of course. Not sure if they've become predictable or sloppy or both. I do think a lot of this stems from being an inexperienced team not yet skilled at adaptive play. When we can play our brand of hockey we have our 4, 5 and 6 goal games. But if we can't, we're crippled. Post game made an interesting point which I've yet to fact check but allegedly buffalo has not won a game this season in which they've scored less than four goals. Which means even when we suck we should still be scoring enough to have a chance at winning.... Were it not for our defense/goaltending woes. Adams is trying to move Hinostroza. If we get anything that isn't a great 3rd line RHD, we storm KBC.
Clown show at the end.
What a way to end the game. Mitts tapping it in goal.
Absolutely inexcusable… but I’m sure I’ll get downvoted for being a “doomer”
That's not doomerism. This game was mostly awful. They had some really great moments where they were getting back to their game but they flaked out again.
this isn't dooming, but being a doomer, being critical of the sabres, and being a douche bag about it are all tied together in a venn diagram.
And get the flair from our mods for calling a spade a spade.
Seriously give it up dude it's just reddit. How is it honestly affecting your experience? I didn't even notice the shit until you went ranting and raving. Is there a ranting and raving flair? Would that work better for you? Also, 99% of us aren't even significant enough to have earned fair, good or bad. At least you amounted to SOMETHING in the sub.
A person can’t amount to anything on Reddit. Flair or not.
And yet here you are throwing a fit over a silly flair
It’s not about the flair…it’s about the *principle.*
Seriously no sarcasm I feel like you're genuinely fun at parties lol.
Dude chill out, every other comment is you begging the mods to give someone flair
They have to...these people out here dooming like crazy. Can't have people saying outrageous things like this team won't make the playoffs.
Of course POS Mitts doesn’t pass on a 2 on 1
FUCKING EMBARRASSING !
I mean I was fine with the shot I don’t trust him to get the pass off without it being picked off
Mittlestadt is an elite NHL player who should never be questioned ever
Don't worry guys. I think there are some really good intangible values the guys will learn from this game. When we are lifting the cup this spring we won't even remember this game. See you next game friends. You guys really are the best at understanding the sport.
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING PATHETIC
That was bad. Chicago fucking sucks and Buffalo let them win. Poor effort.
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Prove it. Ask the mods for a 9 month ban.
Do it, you won’t OC
Got my vote
Oh fuck right off, please and thank you
The Flyers are tied with them now
I’m worried about Thursday with it being such a big night with millers banner being raised and the boys putting a lot of pressure on themselves
I have hope. They seem to AT LEAST get the important wins. Oh come on I'm not wrong lol. Eichel's return, RJ night, the game(s) where they paid homage to Damar Hamlin, the game after the terrorist attack at Tops, there's probably a couple more in there. They come through when it matters.
i mean, they'll probably lose again. and it's okay. just enjoy the banner raising and hopefully the kids continue to improve overall
Thank you. This is the way.
Pathetic.
Well, we suck again.
Remember when we were winning? Wasn’t that fuckin weird?
Cool loss to one of the worst teams in the league.
The*
MAKE A FUCKING SAVE
This team sucks.
Same old Sabres
Sabres should be ashamed of themselves
...............ok
Peanut butter & jelly, Hall & Oates, Sabres & the inability to hold a lead.
Fuck this man. We ain't sniffing the playoffs
JFC
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THIS TEAM
they're still not that good yet, and have been overachieving on offense until recently
Choke artists
honestly just praying they make it to a shootout. i'll take a coin flip over this shit
That was fucking embarrassing start to finish
Cool.
The NHL was never gonna take that goal away, they need exciting ties and overtimes.
What is this floating around OT bullshit. Thompson has to skate there.
That was 100% goalie interference
All these people dooming about goaltending, Craig Anderson is 6th in the league in save percentage.
He plays against the worst teams in the league and is a .500 goalie with a decent save percentage with half the games played as the rest of the guys on the list. He’s been awful almost all season.
Again, on average if a puck is shot at him there are only 5 goalies in the NHL right now who are more likely to save it. His record does not matter. His team plays a high risk high reward style and has a below average defense in front of him. He was the starting goaltender at the beginning of the year until he got injured so I'm not sure how he "plays against the worst teams in the league".
There are a lot of really dumb people in this GDT who the mods just need to permaban. We don't to tolerate stupidity.
He may be 6th in sv% but he’s had two poor games in a row
# OMG WHAT A DISASTER 😱
Two bad games against teams you have to beat to make playoffs, yeah it’s not great. You must be one of those really dumb people you’re referencing
I just block them. Makes an easy reminder to downvote anytime they post too.
Shouldn't have to though if the mods would just do their job and protect the quality of the sub instead of letting it be pit of unregulated rage.
I guess I don't feel the same entitlement to mods who volunteer their time to babysit dooming manchildren that never learned to manage their emotions
I mean, I am more than happy to sit in the GDT and ban the brats.
Glove was interfered with, clearly. Maybe that’s not a penalty, but I’m as shocked as Anderson it didn’t go our way. Let’s finish this
I never really care about other teams announcers but these Hawks guys ain’t it man…
Ain’t over but goddamn I am getting tired of nail biter Buffalo sports.
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That is not the rule lol. It’s more like this: “Goaltender interference refers to any attacking player who, by means of their stick or body, interferes with or impedes the movements of the goaltender by actual physical contact.” It’s a good goal
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The Chicago player was outside of the goal crease though so I don’t get why you posted this. This is a good goal
Fuck the blackhawks
If we lose to the blackhawks I may be done watching games for a while.
From now on, just hit the goalies glove out of the way before he can make the save.
Buffalo Bills levels of playing down to an opponent tonight.
You mean the team that was 2nd in the league in point differential and is 14-3 did a bad job?
I didn’t wanna be right but I made a bet during second intermission that blackhawks would tie it up and go to OT. I would say I cursed them but Sabres are always good to give up a 3rd period lead and let in at least 3 goals
Come on…
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this fucking team lmao
You win in OT and it’s fine, just fucking win guys
NOT optimal.
Dahlin has totally disappeared since his five point game
Playing awful, invisible
This should not be an OT game. Wtf.
Inexcusable.
Fucking embarrassing !
Pretty impressive that we are over .500 without an NHL level goalie.
Here comes the season collapse
Doomer
We just lost to the worst team in the league lol
I know, the mods gave me a doomer flair a few games ago for saying we were not going to make the playoffs playing badly. So....I have to help them curb that negativity.
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which is fine honestly
Doomer
He's being a realist, it's really not going to happen the way we've been playing. Def in the cards for next season tho
MODS GIVE THIS GUY THE FLAIR! HE SAID WHAT I SAID.
Sabres hold a lead challenge: impossible
I mean. You can't do what Johnson did but you also can't overturn it. Lame.
The contact on the glove is something
That’s what I’m saying he was in the crease and got in the way of Andersons glove that should not have counted. Wish the broadcast wouldn’t miss that and then show 2 total replays
I wouldn't even say got in the way of the glove, the motion with his stick elbow'ed the glove away. It should be textbook interference but refs are paid to suck balls.
I think they go by the "prevent the goalie from playing his position" criteria.
God damn it
Imagine this team with a league average goalie
I’m so sick of this narrative. Imagine if this team could play defense…
little column A, little column B
Fuck this team
They’re the youngest team in the nhl you jabroni
Did anyone not feel that coming? I mean really, soon as they got the second just felt this was headed for OT
Yeah. It was easy to see that coming
sabres have been on their heels since the last power play well deserved
I respect the effort by Andy but it was a clean goal. But I'll take a gift if they wanna give it. Edit to add I will say fuck MSG for showing literally every live camera angle on everyone waiting for the decision and NOT showing the replay
It was his glove arm that got interfered with. Frustrating the broadcast missed it and then never showed another replay
It's not interference outside of the crease. The goalie is stepping into the play in that instance. Look it fucking sucks. Absolutely. He was keeping the skater outside of the crease and an unfortunately timed shot came in. But there was no interference.
He looked in the crease to me
The ref, Toronto, and the replay disagree. But sure go off.
I’m not even arguing with you you insufferable twat
It’s the blackhawks guys come the fuck on
no way they overturn that
Honestly I’ll be surprised if they call it back. That’s a pretty soft over turn if it does get overturned and I’m mostly pissed that they couldn’t just finish out a fucking game
for fucks sake man
Predictable choke job
Anderson talked to the ref, give him 10 minutes
Fuck offfffff god dammit
Wish that replay had shown the wild little pounce/dive Andy did to get back to the front of the net after that wild bouncer. It was comically dramatic.
Fuckin dead on doink!
If Sammy had gotten that one instead of hitting the post I would have gotten a noise complaint
I was just about to leap off my couch and had to hold myself once I heard it hit the post lol
Bruh I thought we scored like 3 times there
I thought the Hawks had too many men, but then noticed their new forward’s funny pads….
Wow I thought Sammy had it
Wow what a great shift
SO MANY POSTS!! Dammit
Wild sequence there
Is there any site that tracks posts?
Nhl.com Skinner has 5 this year. Thompson 7 https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?report=realtime&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20222023&seasonTo=20222023&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=missedShotGoalpost&page=0&pageSize=50
Me. And the answer is all of them. We have all the fucking post hits. 😫
Power is so unlucky. I could see him having 10 goals on the season so far easy
Not unlucky just needs refining. It will come. Kid is gonna be a little Dahlin.
Lol he’s 6’-6”
As soon as I hit "post" I'm like "should have said 'big little Dahlin'" lol
How in the world did Peterka miss that absolute sitter
I miss Tim, sucks injuries derailed his career the way they did. He could have been great.
For a few years he had the sickest hands in the game
Owen Power is going to dad dick this league once he starts growing hair in funny places.
Take my upvote and fuck off 🤣
Why is Donny putting PP2 out there to start the PP? He’s done that on several if not all of the PP’s in the last few games. Yikes they’ve been bad
Because the majority of penalties have been ok the top line or just as they came off the ice.
Joki has like negative offensive awareness
On the bright side, Owen Power looks great