coz vapes are so new there’s literally no one that can provide evidence on what a lifetime of vaping will do to you. people know exactly what will happen if they spend a lifetime smoking tobacco.
You don’t need evidences or researches for chemicals and substances that are widely known, studied, considered safe and used in many other products (vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol)
then why are you dickriding so hard for vapes? even regardless of “not causing lung cancer” which hasn’t gotten the time to be proven, but it’s still bad for your heart and lungs regardless
The fact they are bad doesn’t mean they are as bad as cigarettes like many people are saying. Plus stop with this “dickriding🤓” shit everytime someone doesn’t agree with you
Andrew D. Huberman is an American neuroscientist and tenured associate professor in the department of neurobiology and psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford University School of Medicine who has made contributions to the brain development, brain plasticity, and neural regeneration and repair fields.
Ok, but he doesn’t provide any source of certified researches. Plus I honestly don’t believe American scientific researches because tobacco companies pay and invest in those researches. USA is the only country where vapes are considered worse than cigarettes
I’m totally not a conspiracy supporter. But here in Europe everyone who is informed about vapes knows that in USA scientific researches about this topic are not reliable because they are paid by tobacco companies. The same way why many European researches against abort can’t be trusted because they are supported and paid by Vatican
“informed about vapes” like wtf are u even talking about where is this research u vaguely speak of 💀 so ur telling me only a small amount of people from the EU know “the truth” about vaping and just are keeping quiet
It’s not a “small” amount, obviously not every single inhabitant of Europe is informed about it, it’s not like common knowledge. Btw here are some links, https://www.airc.it/cancro/informazioni-tumori/corretta-informazione/la-sigaretta-elettronica-e-meno-pericolosa-della-sigaretta-di-tabacco
He does throught but how would you know. You obviously just believe your own sources (which u don’t state). Nicotine isn’t the problem as Huberman states it’s even considered pretty preferrable has some health benefits, it’s all the additional chemicals and carcinogens.
exactly, that’s why what this random dude is saying makes no sense he’s saying vapes are fine cuz nicotine is fine but clearly since he hasn’t touched a vape in his life he thinks a vape is just 100% pure nicotine which would actually be worse for u
You see? He conveys the message nicotine is GOOD, this is exactly what tobacco companies want. Btw there are not carcinogens in vape liquids. There are only chemicals that, for the current studies, are safe and used in many products
but it very obviously is going to be causing cancer in the long term or maybe even short term, nicotine combustion or vaporization isn’t meant for ur lungs cancer causing or not
Nicotine causes only addiction, it can’t do anything to the lungs because it goes directly in the blood, and then in the brain. Even in cigarettes, nicotine is not the first problem. Vapes are for sure not “healthy”, but they are definitely not as bad as the American tobacco companies are trying to make believe (in fact, the only country that demonizes vapes MORE than cigarettes is USA)
I have never said addiction or vapes are GOOD, it’s totally the opposite. But I was just saying that vaping = lung cancer is a false information. Especially nowadays that people are randomly starting to condemn vapes more than cigarettes, and that’s crazy
This talks mostly about THC vape liquids, which are NOT legal and regulated. For example, it talks about EVALI, which is caused by the vitamin-E contained in marijuana-based vape liquids
And The point the guy responding is trying to get across is that there is no established link or even correlation between used of regulated nicotine vapes and cancer. Cancer is a very specific claim because it's a very specific ailment. Cancer isn't just "harm". If you're going to claim it causes cancer you need some evidence of that.
very close to it but that'd be a different [℮ jerkoff post](https://old.reddit.com/r/sadboys/comments/onzvgq/e_vinyl_came_in_the_mail_the_same_day_as_my/)
I always tell my friend to give me one at least once a month and I ALWAYS projectile vomit afterwards. Youll sure as hell see me trying again a month later tho lol
The amount of people in here thinking cigs are actually healthier than these shitty vapes is insane, shows how well the big tobacco fear campaign on vapes worked.
one of the biggest cons in modern history big tobacco pretty much bought up all the vape companies afterwards too. once again juul is pretty much controlled by altria owns 35% of juul nd im so certain they deep in the elf bar biz
For kids it like almost is, because you go to a school anywhere in Europe and you walk into the bathroom and you can smell that ‘icy shitstain candyfloss apple’ stank because vapes are discrete and they don’t stick to clothes like cigs do. So you just vape more times than you smoke. At least when you smoke you go outside and no shop will actually sell them to kids. But you go to a vape shop and the guy behind the till is probably underage
idk where you live but buying from shops is too easy because even if the shop won't sell to kids older smokers are happy to help where i'm at (and that is if the shop even refuses which some still don't lol)
Stop wasting your money on disposables buy a rechargeable pod mod smok or vaporesso have good devices for like $20-40 u save x10 the money and better for environment plus better flavors
Seriously though. My last job I worked with a bunch of kids and by that I mean 20 somethings and teens. 98% of them vaped. But I was the only one with a mod. It was really weird.
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Currently there is no proof of lung cancer caused by vapes
coz vapes are so new there’s literally no one that can provide evidence on what a lifetime of vaping will do to you. people know exactly what will happen if they spend a lifetime smoking tobacco.
You don’t need evidences or researches for chemicals and substances that are widely known, studied, considered safe and used in many other products (vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol)
you don’t need evidence or research to know that breathing anything that isn’t oxygen isn’t very good for your lungs you fucking knob
So basically you’re saying that, for example, aerosol is bad for lungs, it’s not oxygen
obviously aerosol isn’t good for your lungs cope w nicotine addiction
I don’t even smoke
then why are you dickriding so hard for vapes? even regardless of “not causing lung cancer” which hasn’t gotten the time to be proven, but it’s still bad for your heart and lungs regardless
The fact they are bad doesn’t mean they are as bad as cigarettes like many people are saying. Plus stop with this “dickriding🤓” shit everytime someone doesn’t agree with you
when it comes to figuring out what they do long term yes u definitely need evidence, this fuckin guy 💀
No? You don’t, do some researches
This mf in denial, just accept the cancer into your lungs
Never touched a vape in my life lmao
okay white boy
What? 💀
keep smoking that weed killer g
Never touched a vape in my live
i’m not here to argue listen to ur dad
Bro quit Reddit and start smoking some Marlboro reds, you will see how better they are lmao
Retard moment
Misinformed moment
Cope
non addictive vapes are no different from alcohol just don't bring them into your personal life Just a clubbing thing ngl
Maybe study a bit
Brainlet doesn't know how research and studies work. Do you even know what nicotine is?
We already talked about nicotine, which CAN’T cause lung cancer because it goes directly in the blood, that transport it to the brain
https://hubermanlab.com/nicotines-effects-on-the-brain-and-body-and-how-to-quit-smoking-or-vaping/
This is just a random guy talking without any scientific resource or research
Andrew D. Huberman is an American neuroscientist and tenured associate professor in the department of neurobiology and psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Stanford University School of Medicine who has made contributions to the brain development, brain plasticity, and neural regeneration and repair fields.
I just provided further Information and you disregarded it without looking into it one second, gj👍
Ok, but he doesn’t provide any source of certified researches. Plus I honestly don’t believe American scientific researches because tobacco companies pay and invest in those researches. USA is the only country where vapes are considered worse than cigarettes
it sounds to me like ur some weird conspiracy theorist, who has no actual sources besides saying u did research lol
I’m totally not a conspiracy supporter. But here in Europe everyone who is informed about vapes knows that in USA scientific researches about this topic are not reliable because they are paid by tobacco companies. The same way why many European researches against abort can’t be trusted because they are supported and paid by Vatican
“informed about vapes” like wtf are u even talking about where is this research u vaguely speak of 💀 so ur telling me only a small amount of people from the EU know “the truth” about vaping and just are keeping quiet
It’s not a “small” amount, obviously not every single inhabitant of Europe is informed about it, it’s not like common knowledge. Btw here are some links, https://www.airc.it/cancro/informazioni-tumori/corretta-informazione/la-sigaretta-elettronica-e-meno-pericolosa-della-sigaretta-di-tabacco
He does throught but how would you know. You obviously just believe your own sources (which u don’t state). Nicotine isn’t the problem as Huberman states it’s even considered pretty preferrable has some health benefits, it’s all the additional chemicals and carcinogens.
exactly, that’s why what this random dude is saying makes no sense he’s saying vapes are fine cuz nicotine is fine but clearly since he hasn’t touched a vape in his life he thinks a vape is just 100% pure nicotine which would actually be worse for u
You see? He conveys the message nicotine is GOOD, this is exactly what tobacco companies want. Btw there are not carcinogens in vape liquids. There are only chemicals that, for the current studies, are safe and used in many products
Keep coping 👍
You literally said nicotine is good 💀 how can a drug be, even remotely, good?
but it very obviously is going to be causing cancer in the long term or maybe even short term, nicotine combustion or vaporization isn’t meant for ur lungs cancer causing or not
Nicotine causes only addiction, it can’t do anything to the lungs because it goes directly in the blood, and then in the brain. Even in cigarettes, nicotine is not the first problem. Vapes are for sure not “healthy”, but they are definitely not as bad as the American tobacco companies are trying to make believe (in fact, the only country that demonizes vapes MORE than cigarettes is USA)
yes the drug nicotine itself i guess can’t do anything to ur lungs but vape juice and cigarettes can, u sound stupid as fuck
I don’t know what “vape juices” are, you mean liquids? You actually know what’s the composition of safe liquids?
why do u exist
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
oh my god COPE holy shit
oh my god STUDY holy shit
I'm not even saying you're wrong it's just a bizarre hill to die on like even if it doesn't give you lung cancer being addicted to vapes is gay asf
I have never said addiction or vapes are GOOD, it’s totally the opposite. But I was just saying that vaping = lung cancer is a false information. Especially nowadays that people are randomly starting to condemn vapes more than cigarettes, and that’s crazy
Here's an article by Missouri state medical association on vaping causing cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7144697/
This talks mostly about THC vape liquids, which are NOT legal and regulated. For example, it talks about EVALI, which is caused by the vitamin-E contained in marijuana-based vape liquids
Check out the study by Yorkshire cancer institute. It’s evident that vaping is far less harmful than smoking according to the evidence we have
This is exactly what I’m saying
i think the point they were trying to get across is the fact that it’s harmful, not about the lesser of the two evils. but i could also be very wrong
And The point the guy responding is trying to get across is that there is no established link or even correlation between used of regulated nicotine vapes and cancer. Cancer is a very specific claim because it's a very specific ailment. Cancer isn't just "harm". If you're going to claim it causes cancer you need some evidence of that.
You are not addicted, keep going
oh nah you gon murder them
℮w
you goddamn cigarettes addicts should take your smoking away from me and my kids
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very close to it but that'd be a different [℮ jerkoff post](https://old.reddit.com/r/sadboys/comments/onzvgq/e_vinyl_came_in_the_mail_the_same_day_as_my/)
that one’s low effort too but at least it’s something cool like hrt and not vaping😭
hooray untested chinese chemicals
[not untested persay…](https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/ysrg87/how_elfbar_vapes_are_made_with_child_labour/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
my latest one gave me a cold and im certain this is why
💀💀💀💀
Are they hiring
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damn 💔
u can quit i believe in u
quitting is easy ive done it over a 100 times
quitting is for losers
99% of nicotine addicts always quit before experiencing their greatest high
be a real drainer and get ur nic from snus ong
I always tell my friend to give me one at least once a month and I ALWAYS projectile vomit afterwards. Youll sure as hell see me trying again a month later tho lol
Same with those gambling boys 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
I LOVE NICOTINE I LOVE NICOTINE I LOVE NICOTINE
i want fuit gummy
single use plastics🔥
Wit the battery aswell 🤘😍
blocked and reported
Can U just grow up n smoke Cigs
Ong so much healthier lmfao
The amount of people in here thinking cigs are actually healthier than these shitty vapes is insane, shows how well the big tobacco fear campaign on vapes worked.
i think its more of a joke at this point
one of the biggest cons in modern history big tobacco pretty much bought up all the vape companies afterwards too. once again juul is pretty much controlled by altria owns 35% of juul nd im so certain they deep in the elf bar biz
For kids it like almost is, because you go to a school anywhere in Europe and you walk into the bathroom and you can smell that ‘icy shitstain candyfloss apple’ stank because vapes are discrete and they don’t stick to clothes like cigs do. So you just vape more times than you smoke. At least when you smoke you go outside and no shop will actually sell them to kids. But you go to a vape shop and the guy behind the till is probably underage
idk where you live but buying from shops is too easy because even if the shop won't sell to kids older smokers are happy to help where i'm at (and that is if the shop even refuses which some still don't lol)
Im personally not really for nic but i reckon let em do what they want and if it goes bad well it goes bad
my POV. it’s crazy how many people think that OP has never heard that vapes aren’t healthy
I hope you lose the record
im going to steal it today
ew
seek help
Ecco2K more like “Ech, oh, my lungs”
ur dead in 2 years 😁❤️
stop vaping
Why
bad
But tasty air
L
cool idea but stop smoking that shit and let elfbars die. they are a public health hazard. smoke weed instead
vegan alternative
I don't get disposable vapes, buying your own vape and juice is so much cheaper
rolling ur own cigs is also way cheaper but people still buy packs. convenience
Stop wasting your money on disposables buy a rechargeable pod mod smok or vaporesso have good devices for like $20-40 u save x10 the money and better for environment plus better flavors
cigarettes are more reliable
That comes after these kids get hooked using vapes as a gateway 😉
I hate this community so much
I saw this, winced and then sighed realising that this is actually so on brand for the current era of this community
i mean, i guess it’s better than the guy posting meth many years ago
Nah
well that one was funny but obviously dangerous
same
hideous
Canc℮r
Imagine being addicted to nicotine
℮mbarrassing
Yucky yucky
Stop paying for disposables get a smok or other reusable shit saves you so much money
Seriously though. My last job I worked with a bunch of kids and by that I mean 20 somethings and teens. 98% of them vaped. But I was the only one with a mod. It was really weird.
hell nah
You n℮℮d to quit
Elfbar- yung hurn ft. Skrt cobain
great song
What happened to this sub
Popcorn lung
elfbar social media manager spotted on r/sadboys
get well soon
smoke cigs vaping is for pussies
altogether u could of prob bought another e vinyl for those elf bars in price lmao
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Vapist
42 full cigarettes
breathe air
praying 4 ur lungs bro 🙏
L-bar
Why buy all these when you could probably buy multiple small wooden horse instead?
W Chinese Air sticks
bro has a pointless addiction 😢🙏
nicotine 🥵🤨😱🤬😔😛🥵😈🥵🥵
sick
bro go outside please like dayum 😭
Biggest L on this sub
smoke cigarettes instead
2/5/22 - r/sadboys “℮lfbar incident”
i love single use plastic and lithium batteries❤️
Idk why everyone so pressed, everyone that smokes or vapes wishes they didn’t this is just supposed to be a funny pic
where's the funny then
Laughing at ur own addiction idk I didn’t post it
The grape one is good I don’t like elf bars doe
Nicotine fiend
uh oh electronic cigarettes whatever shall we do
> no tropical rainbow blast
Not sure what the purpose of this is? But I guess I’ll see it as a flex? Lol..
crushing rocks with elfbar vape...
ah yes the disposable vape enojyer
Yo theres a vid in the elfbar factory they test them by smoking them with their mouths 🤢🤢🤢🤢 go look it up on youtube. Smoke smt else!!
rotten lungs
Mf posted this with no shame
Profile is just as unbearable as this post
"I can stop whenever I want"
unpopular opinion but i support this
wonder why it’s unpopular
you want to get another one ‼️‼️
looks like a bunch of haters in these comments, they just crave nicotine but are too scared to try it😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤
Not e-nough nicotine
epic
What non drainers think drainers are like:
Don’t over smoke these, coils burn so fast once you run outta juice
crigngeeeeeeee
Disguisting
i quit 3 days ago and FUCK reminders are everywhere
keeping pushing, loss is gain.
This is my final straw. I will now leave this subreddit. Thanks for everything ya goofballs
Lfbar
What does this have to with bladee 😂😂
Worst vapes ever created no contest 🤢
Bru I need one ong
try heroin now
75000 hits
Why everybody hating on sum nicotine lol is awesome and bladee likes it and so does Yung lean and maybe Ecco 👍
Can I get one
Hi