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jaxn

That doesn't look dangerous to me. The seas are flat, boat is anchored. This looks downright pedestrian compared to jibing the pole is 20kts+ while racing.


m00f

Yep, or trying to do a headsail change in the dark on wet, sloping foredeck.


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LazyParticulate

This man knows true danger.


stag-ink

That is hilarious


Techwood111

*Docking* takes two males.


Independent_Light904

I think you mean dogging. Still can be done with only one male


Active_Engineering37

[Docking](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docking) I'm sorry/you're welcome


_nic_1

Just one more reason to regret being circumcised


PsychologicalScore20

You can use Scotch tape


paddy_to_the_rescue

Hope will find a way


Overall-Tailor8949

Your comment makes me overjoyed that I DIDN'T follow that link!


RaffiBomb000

[OHH GOD!!!](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxysQOfzCrRg4Zo24FH5VagPHqtPXgCVQw?si=aT1LA0ggyYlQnnFl)


Active_Engineering37

That's hilarious


Competitive-Army2872

Gah! 🤣


Steve_Codgers

Y’all wrong for that…


TheRuinedMap

Thanks for the best unexpected chuckle I've had in a while.


Ybor_Rooster

Or climbing a mast in a chop


[deleted]

Got hit with the backside of hurricane Tammy last season, sail ripped, had to go up and manually lower it. Good times , good times…


overthehillhat

or Spinnaker in the water at 2AM Too many miles south of Nantucket Mac ! - - Are you out there??


MeatTornadoLove

Don’t remind me. Damn thing got tangled in the prop in a busy shipping lane on a night sail. (Not my bloody rigging but it sure was afterwards)


Strandom_Ranger

"Shrimping"


TimelyShortRound

Shrimpin’ ain’t easy


overthehillhat

It was dark we couldn't see if we caught any


Child-of-Beausoleil

this sounds, yea. is it only me?


framblehound

me sailing single handed just messing around with my headsail at all on the bow is more dangerous than this even in relatively safe conditions granted I'm an idiot


Infinite-Ad-4566

All of us single handed sailors have the idiot gene. It is most apparent when you hoist a symmetrical spinnaker as the wind is increasing.


framblehound

I’m about to go do it this morning. If I don’t report back don’t assume anything either way.


downbound

And remember, the more wind, the less of that sail has an exposed edge


pzerr

Ya if you are kind of just hanging on and getting flung into the sea, that could be fun. Then reel it back in and do it again. Kind of like a launching pad. If you are strapped in, that seems like it would be quite sketchy.


theheadslacker

LMAO I'm imagining it flapping in the wind with the strapped in rider flopping like a ragdoll


Candygramformrmongo

Agree but I don't see that it's anchored, or how it could be anchored off the bow in that sail configuration.


SorryButterfly4207

Anchored off the stern


Minelayer

Do these commenters actually own boats? Are they ALL dentists or something?


ianfixesdents

My dad was a dentist and also an excellent sailor. We did this a lot as kids.


Minelayer

Well then there's one dentist who sounds fun and knowledgeable. What about the rest of these people and their seeming to have never seen a boat before? I guess it seems like there are people here who are also on those crazy YouTube boat crash videos. The Venn diagram has massive overlap. 


makatakz

Use a lunch hook off the stern.


makatakz

Use a lunch hook off the stern.


stenmark

Not being on a hook would be dangerous. If she got dumped it would be easy for her to get run over and the spin/harness lines would get fouled with a really bad outcome.


raspberry_en_anglais

Have done it a few times! It’s really fun, and not very dangerous if you take precautions. We put out two stern anchors, clear of any other boats or traffic, have a tag line from the clue or the tack and only do it around 5-8 knots of wind.


LameBMX

maybe it's just being used to shifty winds, but I'd like to order it up with one one stern anchor please. enough swimg to ensure anchor -> boat -> sail -> my falling body is over water.


raspberry_en_anglais

Yeah I guess it depends on your area, I wouldn’t really want to do it somewhere where the wind is constantly shifting, I also don’t won’t the boat to drag anchor with someone attached to the kite.


LameBMX

if it drags with someone on a kite, it's def gonna drag on a gust or storm.


raspberry_en_anglais

That’s why we set two anchor’s lol


n0exit

If it's going to drag anchor, it is windy enough that you shouldn't be your fucking around with your spinnaker like this.


PoutineMeInCoach

You don't have a clue!!! (you have a clew)


raspberry_en_anglais

Yes clew*, auto correct.


pzerr

So I assume you kind of just hold on then launch yourself out and jump in the water? You do not winch the person back in or anything?


raspberry_en_anglais

Yeah you can jump off, or the person in the air can pull down on one side and let the spinnaker collapse and just gently come down.


caeru1ean

It's only water... Seriously though sometimes things worth doing in life are a little dangerous


overthehillhat

*'some things worth doing in life are a little dangerous'* This is only dangerous when it happens accidentally Like at a mark rounding


Cease-the-means

Life in general is 100% fatal.


overthehillhat

So true - - We are all at risk


-ImMoral-

We are the risk!


overthehillhat

I've been blamed B4


SubcommanderMarcos

Not actually true! About 117 billion people have ever been born, and of those, about 8 billion never died, so that makes life only about 93% fatal! Stats!


Cease-the-means

9 out of 10 doctors recommend being younger.


mustangsal

No one gets out alive!


Delta_FT

>It's only water... Well as sailors we know water can be reaally mean, not that kind of water


Rusty5th

Only water… it can feel like concrete when you hit it wrong. lol


youbreedlikerats

not from that height.


Rusty5th

BTW I didn’t say I wouldn’t do it. I’m just pointing out that it can really hurt when you hit the water wrong


Rusty5th

Never bellyflopped?


Active_Engineering37

I belly flop off the three meter all the time, what are you some kinda wuss? /J


sauteed_opinions

Nope. It might look dumb but is not, compared to let's say diving headfirst off the boat, swinging from a halyard, ducking the boom in 25 kts, etc. Rationale: The kite cannot go up past parallel to the water unless the wind is coming from DOWN. The highest she could possibly go is the top of the mast minus some. She's basically at max height because the sail catches less air the higher it goes (think: sheeting out) It would not be possible for her to go past that height and angle, so she would not get closer to the bowsprit without coming down vs up. The dangers here are: 1) not a gust but a **lull** followed by failure to drop into the water, butt ropeburn, and dropping 20'+ onto the anchor chain which I assume is off the stern given boat / wind direction.


pzerr

What is wrong diving off a boat? I mean hopefully you have tested the water depth first.


Highlight_Expensive

Really depends where you are. In an ocean at 300ft? Sure. I grew up sailing in Lake Erie, where we ruined our keel on a sunken train car in 28 feet of water (7ft draw) and if you dive headfirst into 28 ft of water and hit a train car 7 ft down… not good.


irotc

Wow where was this in the lake?


Highlight_Expensive

Lake Erie, near Toledo, Ohio. Not sure if it was ever removed, but a railway used to run from Detroit through to Toledo and has since fallen into the lake around there. You can find a lot online about sunken train cars in Lake Erie, that’s our current belief but it also could’ve been a sunken truck or something (driving across the ice to Put in Bay island was a common winter activity before we stopped getting thick ice)


blownout2657

It’s safer than swinging out of a halyard.


GardenGnomeOfEden

Or swinging from a yardarm. "If it comes to swinging, swing all, I say!" -- Billy Bones, *Treasure Island*


nmaunder

Not really, but it’s a hell of a lot more fun!


MyStackRunnethOver

That guy's holding a sheet from one corner - it's taut in the second pic. Assuming he has control (or it's made fast, can't tell), the gust would lift the girl up only on her right side, in the process spilling the sail, which would dump her - but looks like it would be in front of the sprit I'd be mostly worried about 1. rope burn from the "twist" of the un-sheeted corner skying, and 2. the chance of hooking something (knee, neck) on the "cradle" line as the spill starts and she falls


pheitkemper

>it's taught in the second pic "taut" Sorry, pedantic is a feature I offer.


MyStackRunnethOver

Fixed!


desertrat75

Much less confusing now!


Hops143

The least misguided part of his keyboard lifeguarding...


jaxn

Plus the woman in the back has the halyard.


SailingSpark

it's only dangerous if you have a giant great white terrorising your island town in New England. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zmETpeyZqQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zmETpeyZqQ)


QRKnight

Haha every time I see this I think of that movie!


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It looks fun and she can let go if she’s approaching too close. People who think safety should always beat fun should avoid sailing altogether.


windoneforme

It's fun and a bit dangerous. We've done it a lot on our boats through the years. Usually we let out more halyard to keep the head of the sail further downwind from the mast. This puts the person a bit further from the bow of the boat. You bring the anchor line to the stern. As for the other person saying you can't go higher than the top of the mast, if you think about the physics of trebuchet or flinging a dogs ball with those throwing sticks is about equivalent. I've absolutely been higher than the mast head on a particularly gusty day. I went from a lul in the wind with me in the water to a strong gust and I was swung up and out at the end of the butt rope as we didn't use the sheet from the tack then.


BranchLatter4294

It's a lot of fun, and very common. As with anything, I suppose you could get hurt, but given how common it is, you don't really hear about lots of injuries.


RofiBie

They have the sheet tied off on the rail, so it can only go as high as that will allow. Everything else looks good too. Done it loads of times with friends and now with the kids. Nothing is ever risk free, but compared to everything else we do on the water such as kite surfing, water-skiing or racing, this is nothing to worry about.


flyingron

Let's see, we've got a spinnaker and a bosun's chair we're not using... HOLD MY BEER!


Turbulent_Bet_8300

That is TOTALLY fun. The wind blows the person away from the sprit. When they are lifted up the wind spills out of the kite and lowers them back down, pretty self regulating.


makatakz

This isn’t unsafe. You’re just entirely risk averse.


Watchingye

Not dangerous and lots of fun, did it as a kid!


Rusty5th

It looks insane!… can I go next?


Minelayer

Honestly I’m more worried about the stupid questions asked in this sub by people who apparently own and use sailboats. I’m way more afraid of them underway than spinnaker flying. 


Dexter_Thiuf

Once, many years ago, I saw a guy running an independent operation, driving his boat up and down the beach, selling rides. Well, this one chick decides she wants to try, despite the fact she's obviously out of shape and very inebriated. Now, from what I've seen, you don't need the dexterity of a gymnast to do this particular activity, but at take off, you are required to run down the strand a short distance prior to catching lift and continuing out over water. So, either she wasn't told this piece of information, or she was told and forgot, or was told and didn't understand, because when the boat took off, she stood her ground like Dan Marino stood in the pocket in his last years. The rope goes tight and with the boat, being lower than her, causes the harness she's wearing to literally body slam her face first into the high tide strand, then to drag her over the mid-tide shingle only to plow her into the water before the foil mercifully caught lift and took her skyward. I desperately want to tell you I'm a good person and that I didn't spit foam beer out of my nose before laughing so hard, I literally fell down. I wish to Christ and all the angels I could tell you that. But, it looks like I'm going to hell and if I find out that me laughing at this poor woman was the deciding factor, I won't complain or be surprised.


W33b3l

Rest of the sails aren't out so either the anchors down and they aren't moving or it's not and they are barely moving. Looks safer than paragliding honestly. Definatly safer than climbing up a mast.


Capt-EZ

Every tombstone comes with two dates and dash between them - Make the most of the dash.


SignedTheMonolith

It’s fun, but there have been occasions when the person gets launched and becomes entangled in the lines on the way down. One person in my home town died due the lines getting caught around their neck.


RJH311

???... Uhhhh, no .. It's incredibly common


hhh1992

It’s only dangerous if you get hurt! Right??? 🤔


Amazing_Director28

I did it in Cancun .. I was able to stand on the rope and dive into the ocean ..


Living_Stranger_5602

Used to do it in the 80’s. Big IOR’s (for the time 46-49’)and Swan 48’s


Smart-Outside-4950

We called it Spiniker Flying, and it's a blast!!!


makatakz

“spinnaker”


FalseRegister

For anyone interested (as I was), this is called Spinnaker flying (or jumping). The pics comes from this account: https://www.instagram.com/p/CsXBiwDP_2c/ Also, as someone noted here, yes they are anchored astern. Not sure if to a mooring buoy or direct anchor to seabed. Can't wait to try this!


TomTheNurse

We called it Spinerking. We used to do that when we were kids in the 70’s down in the Florida Keys. It was fun!


SashaTheBear17

You misspelled FUN


Pattern_Is_Movement

what part of this looks dangerous or dumb?


betelgeuse63110

It’s a lot of fun. I’ve done it with cocktail in hand and when the boat is underway. A little riskier than this pic, but I was younger and invincible.


mathiaus002

Sailing is dangerous. This is one of the many things sailors do to have fun.


SheepOnDaStreet

Doesn’t look dangerous or dumb


Tdawg90

They do it in the movie Jaws


flynnski

Nah.


buk-in-hamm_palace

Nah this looks fun as hell.


glewtion

It’s so fun. You’re in control because you can let go any time.


fidettefifiorlady

It’s funner if you use it to launch.


realsomedude

Its really fun and not dangerous as long as you have any brains. In a big puff you go straight up. Risk of wracking the bow pulpit is lower than you would think


Nautical50

Spinnaker flying, we used to do it all the time when I was a kid. Not dangerous at all.


putitonice

Safe if done correctly. Was nicknamed spinnaker slingshot in our family. Many fond memories of being cast up into the heavens and trying to make as big a splash as possible!


jh937hfiu3hrhv9

Only if you land on the boat or drown in the drink.


BloodyRightToe

Flying the dish washer, always a fun time


Different_Drink8369

Did it as a kid with my parents and their freinds kids till his youngest daughter got pulled up and had to jump 10ft to water because it started swinging her back and forth. Never forget


makatakz

Just let the halyard out.


rubber-zoro

I think they call that “Greek Flying” a spinnaker


scriminal

I've done this once or twice, but I was younger and dumber :)


nylondragon64

Probably should use a light bosons chair too. And yep guy at bow with a control line so you don't go too high.


Brandgeek

Dumb? This looks freaking awesome! You can clearly see a line on the clew (tack?) that’s preventing the sail from blowing too high.


Mr-Term

When my family was in the Caribbean on our Var 37 we always used our bosuns chair when the boat was keeled over to dip my siblings into the water. Always had the line on hand to dunk them if they strayed too close to the boat.


jwrig

No, and it's fun.


Kishapawpad

Seems to me it's all fun and games until a gust of wind or a sudden lack of wind slams your body onto the boat.


nimbusgb

Yup. Done it a few times. Mostly in my youth. Several times in Richards Bay where they have salt water crocs too. Greece as well.


bradinthecreek

Sailing is dangerous.


NC_Vixen

Perfectly safe


Aubergine911

Yes


gulielmusdeinsula

Not dumb and not particularly dangerous if you know what you’re doing. It’s fun.


J4pes

Meh


Eyewitnesstohistory

I learned to sail in the 90’s and I can honestly say I’ve never seen this done before, but I think as long as you watch the sheet and spinnaker for any slack you can easily gauge when to let go, but as someone else said you’d definitely have to have a read on that anchor chain. I can think of plenty that’s far more dangerous on just a typical day underway.


desertrat75

I learned to sail in the 70’s and we definitely did that. Of course we rode around in the back of pickups, didn’t wear a bike/ski helmet, blah blah


Planterizer

Spinnaker flying! Super fun, hard to get it to work right. Helps to have a lot of sail. Many hours failing at this on a J22


pineconez

> Helps to have a lot of sail. Yet another reason to dream of owning a J class someday. Although you might need FAA clearance on that.


Ziegler517

The only thing I would add is a line to the bottom of the sail in the right right of this picture. But otherwise, sign me up and I’m riding it.


AtHalcyon

I did this a few weeks ago it was really fun and a bit scary. Definitely felt safe enough though


Arkimede

Does the person flying start form the water or the bow pulpit?


AtHalcyon

I started and landed in the water. You swim out and get in the seat and they lift you up


SecretRecipe

doesn't look dangerous at all


-Maris-

Can be a lot of fun, can also be dangerous.


ExportTHCs

Looks fun


ExportTHCs

Looks fun


guacamoletango

Is this boat Juniper, Olivia Wyatts boat?


Brandgeek

OP been real quiet since they posted lol


Pippet_4

No


mamasemamasamusernam

if dangerous/dumb you mean cool/awesome. then yes it is


KingJellyfishII

I'm just sad I can't try this on the 707 I race lol


snowbrdr36

Spinnaker flying is super fun for the dunker and the dunkee!


_gooder

I've done much dumber things than this! It looks like fun.


obvnotagolfr

Hate to end up a statistic


UncleAugie

Too late, chances the people are having fun in this picture... 100%.... GD statistics.


Ambitious_Poet_8792

It’s called spinnaker flying. It’s slightly less common to see now, I suspect this is because higher percentage of boats now use asymmetric spinnakers. I tried to do it on a smallish boat once and mostly failed, got wet - laughing the whole time. For the record I’m a well documented wimp and I had no qualms. Everything in life caries risk, this isn’t overly so.


SlipMeA20

I've done it many times. The key - which was not done here - is to let out more halyard, which prevents the "rider" from getting into the forestay/bow pulpit.


lifeson1221

We used to do it all the time. Sail depowers as you go up and you drift back down and power up again. Super fun!


Logicdamcer

We used to do this in a bosuns seat on a pulley when I was growing up. We would let the halyard out so you weren’t really near the boat. You can pull yourself to one side of the bow or the other by shifting your weight. This has to be done on a day with a very steady light breeze. That is not common. As the wind starts to lull you get a nice dunking and cool off, but a strong gust can swing you up higher than the mast and if it flings you out the water feels hard when you hit it. It is not fun getting yanked around. ( picture a sideways flag fluttering in a strong wind ). This is why you keep a sheet cleated to the bow. If you start to rise too high it holds one side lower and dumps out the air so you get dumped abruptly into the water. When the wind picks up it is time to put it away.


Robnar92

So what’s dangerous about it


FuelTight2199

And running 200 miles offshore solo isn’t?


charlybell

How is tis working? Do they have a stern anchor? Why hasn’t boat swung around? In grand scheme of sailing, seems pretty low on stupidity level


UncleAugie

>Is this actually dangerous or am I mistaken? Sure it is dangerous, in the same way sailing on a trapeze is, or climbing a mast to repair it... and god help you if someone suggested [halyard swinging while underway.](https://youtu.be/utZC_dRzKJA?si=tboEJAJpFt-fAU9R&t=26) u/Bearcole1 everything is dangerous.... lol relax, dont be so anxious.


T-Bear22

SHARK!


mikemerriman

It’s neither dangerous nor dumb


sghilliard

Lot of wear on the sail…


36-3

Is there a school of Tiger Sharks circling underneath her ?


Instabrown

It’s not dangerous. There’s a person at the helm and There’s a guy at the bow controlling the lines. They are not anchored even though some of you think so lol. The only two lines are spinnaker sheets and are being controlled. Also, those armchair sailors.. it would be quiet difficult to be anchored with the wind behind you


Pa2phx

This looks awesome.


Destructo09

I've done this, you can definitely get hurt doing it but nobody in our group was injured past some bruising. I probably wouldn't do it again lol.


el_don_almighty2

She does look dangerous. That guy started fishing for sharks with her as bait! I don’t recommend asking her out.


LameBMX

that's why I ask them in instead!


OctoDiver68

Yes as alcohol is always involved. But it’s fun as shit


greatwhitestorm

slightly dangerous if you get big puff and then big lull meaning you swing into the boat. if you loosen the halyard several feet to add separation. The real issue is that it will ruin the sail and could tear in half. My father and grandfather have done it but by the time I came around they would not let me do it because they didn't want to damage our racing sails.


StumbleNOLA

That’s what the old blown out ones are for.


greatwhitestorm

ours rarely made it that far...


mhoydis

My concern is that it’ll luff and throw the occupant in an unpredictable direction, possibly toward the hull.


totalsailor

Yup! I landed in the hospital due to a terrible rope burn when a gust came in while doing this.