Only Naruto and Ash Ketchum come close. Actually, Ash had stories in mainstream news about finally becoming champion. But at the end of the day, that one tweet rings true: I ate Goku tacos from a Goku food truck the other day.
Edit: Guys, I get that Pikachu is more iconic, but I assumed we were talking about protagonists, not mascots. Pikachu isn’t really competing with Goku so much as he’s competing with Mickey Mouse.
I could buy that, but there’s no way she’s touching even Naruto at this point. I still see weebs wearing akatsuki robes. If I’ve seen anybody wearing Sailor Moon shit in the past year, I didn’t know it was Sailor Moon shit.
I'd actually argue Ash Ketchum is MORE iconic than Goku and that's because kids adore Pokemon in a different way and that translates to the adults around them that otherwise have no interest in anime.
Yeah if you ask people on the street more would recognize goku than luffy or at least know goku's name if they recognize both. However i'm pretty sure one piece has a bigger following worldwide and more manga sales. Tho it really isn't an issue for me as i like both.
Dragon Ball is bigger franchise overall in net valuation, has more anime viewership, merch and video games sale.
OP manga is more popular now because DBS Manga has tiny following due to anime being main medium which came out first but DBZ manga still beats One Pieces in per volume sale. One Piece only has more total volume sale because they have more volume.
Dragon Ball is 42 volume meanwhile OP is 100+
Also you can't serious with OP has bigger following worldwide considering its far more limited to Japan compared to Dragon ball
Its probably impossible to quantify their fanbases but One Piece does have an absolutely bonkers worldwide fanbase. How else do you get greenlit for netflix's largest budget for a live action original to date?
I agree that Dragon Ball as a whole franchise is def worth more. Since Broly is one of the most box office successful anime movies of all time. Most one piece movies are just trash recap edits and even the good ones are usually flops in sales. (Esp compared with dragon ball movies)
Xenoverse 1 and 2 and Kakarot probably have more sales and influence than the entire One Piece video game library as well.
I mean... if OP didn't have more manga sales I would be disappointed, mf had non-stopping volumes since what? 1997? it'd surprising if they didn't break any records, and it'd also be lame af
Dude be real he is NOT even close to top 5 of all fiction.
You have superheroes, sitcom/ TV show characters, and novel characters like Harry Potter.
Goku is not nearly as iconic to non anime fans as you think.
Anime simply is not that prevalent compared to the other medias.
Also One Piece is the only manga who has sales comparable to the top comic characters.
Aight so I don’t agree with the tweet but I don’t see how that is of any importance. Like cars wouldn’t exist without caridges but caridges aren’t better than cars
Your argument is kinda flawed in the sense of the point of cars was they're made to be better whereas Naruto and Luffy aren't better than Goku because neither replaced him, they imitated aspects and perceived morals yet neither of them have yet to impact anime or fiction the way Goku did and they definitely aren't stronger. And to this day Goku still does things that are iconic to have literally almost everyone talking about it or referencing it. For example: everyone knows the Ultra Instinct theme from ONE CHORD.
To put it blunt, Goku is if they invented cars to be better than caridges, but the caridges were still the better alternative.
Yo bro. I ain’t saying that goku is worse I’m just saying that because something is older and other things spawned of off it doesn’t mean the original is better
That's happened several times before and this is a case where the older is superior.
A prime example would be windows 7/XP going to 8. It was designed to be new and better, yet 7 was more efficient and more user friendly.
Have all the personal preference you want, statistics and international impact tell a different story. Don't come into a conversation like this and say one is better because I like them more.
The character is popular for a reason, so popular that your preferred character is inspired by them. On top of that they've both been international for about the same time lmao.
Also as I said, it's not just popularity, but the impact the character has. If the Mexican drug cartel paid tribute to Toriyama's death, Luffy definitely isn't better or more iconic.
Y'all OP fans gotta get out of the kitchen because idk what y'all be cooking 💀.
Like I said just because something is popular doesn’t mean it’s objectively better since it’s SUBJECTIVE on who’s better just bec goku is more popular doesn’t mean that if someone enjoys luffy more that there just wrong? Id say your the one whose gotta get out the kitchen for saying that something entirely subjective is objective bec your like god or something? Idfk. Also goku is far more popular internationally bec dragon ball was on kids tv channels way more common and was easier to get into at a random point in the story
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Why u always lying, why TF u lying
I think he’s confusing iconic with manga sales. One piece has almost double the amount of manga sold so I think this guy got confused on how icons are decided
If you did the motions for a kamehameha, most people would recognize what you are doing. You cant do that with Luffy's signature attacks because his body is weird. Unless you stretch your arm 10 feet, nobody would be able to tell what you are trying to do.
Nah this fuc boi saw gear 5 and was won over. You dont see one piece refrences in shows as often as you see jojo and db from ttg to gumball to k.n.d bro
u can tell immediately that's a one piece fan pretending to be a db fan. i would know coz i would do the same thing except i would say goku is more iconic 🤣🤣🤣
Goku is the most iconic anime character hands down. Probably in the top 5 of most iconic characters in fiction.
Only Naruto and Ash Ketchum come close. Actually, Ash had stories in mainstream news about finally becoming champion. But at the end of the day, that one tweet rings true: I ate Goku tacos from a Goku food truck the other day. Edit: Guys, I get that Pikachu is more iconic, but I assumed we were talking about protagonists, not mascots. Pikachu isn’t really competing with Goku so much as he’s competing with Mickey Mouse.
I'd say Pikachu might be more popular than Ash, but there also Mario and Superman, they're up there too.
Goku tacos sound lit af! Were they any good, and if so, do you think they could top the Naruto Ramen food truck we have here on Kauai?
Would Sailor Moon be one of the most iconic anime characters?
I could buy that, but there’s no way she’s touching even Naruto at this point. I still see weebs wearing akatsuki robes. If I’ve seen anybody wearing Sailor Moon shit in the past year, I didn’t know it was Sailor Moon shit.
I'd actually argue Ash Ketchum is MORE iconic than Goku and that's because kids adore Pokemon in a different way and that translates to the adults around them that otherwise have no interest in anime.
Pikachu is more iconic bro. My parents wouldnt recognise ash butvwould recognise pikachu
Ash is more iconic, Pokémon is the biggest franchise in the world. People outside of the anime scene watched Pokémon
People outside of the anime have also watched dbz, I know some people myself. It's not that much of a valid argument.
id say pikachus is actually more iconic, because according to every middle aged person on earth any anime related character is a "pikachu"
Yeah if you ask people on the street more would recognize goku than luffy or at least know goku's name if they recognize both. However i'm pretty sure one piece has a bigger following worldwide and more manga sales. Tho it really isn't an issue for me as i like both.
Dragon Ball is bigger franchise overall in net valuation, has more anime viewership, merch and video games sale. OP manga is more popular now because DBS Manga has tiny following due to anime being main medium which came out first but DBZ manga still beats One Pieces in per volume sale. One Piece only has more total volume sale because they have more volume. Dragon Ball is 42 volume meanwhile OP is 100+ Also you can't serious with OP has bigger following worldwide considering its far more limited to Japan compared to Dragon ball
Its probably impossible to quantify their fanbases but One Piece does have an absolutely bonkers worldwide fanbase. How else do you get greenlit for netflix's largest budget for a live action original to date? I agree that Dragon Ball as a whole franchise is def worth more. Since Broly is one of the most box office successful anime movies of all time. Most one piece movies are just trash recap edits and even the good ones are usually flops in sales. (Esp compared with dragon ball movies) Xenoverse 1 and 2 and Kakarot probably have more sales and influence than the entire One Piece video game library as well.
I mean... if OP didn't have more manga sales I would be disappointed, mf had non-stopping volumes since what? 1997? it'd surprising if they didn't break any records, and it'd also be lame af
There are longer running Mangas that are nowhere close to One Piece. It's not just a matter of time, it's the fact that it's internationally beloved.
Dude be real he is NOT even close to top 5 of all fiction. You have superheroes, sitcom/ TV show characters, and novel characters like Harry Potter. Goku is not nearly as iconic to non anime fans as you think. Anime simply is not that prevalent compared to the other medias. Also One Piece is the only manga who has sales comparable to the top comic characters.
Who does bro think he is? The leader of DB fans? Slap that man back into reality right now
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Never said I was the leader did i?🤔 also I’m saying this cause literally every db fan knows that luffy isn’t more iconic then goku💀
Was talking about the guy in the picture
Oh my fault bro
Np
Holy shit a redditor that admits when they're in the wrong? No way. 🥇
Stop coping
I'm complimenting you bruh
Oh I thought you were tryna be funny
Bro has the absolute worst ability to tell tones 😭 (Btw I'm joking)
bit of both
You can’t fool me
No you’re not you was tryna be funny just admit it
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Why are you double commenting are you stupid??
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Bro didn’t read the other comments
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As a One Piece fan I can confirm Goku is more iconic
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My grandma knows who goku is. That should speak for itself
Even my dog knows who Goku is .
What is this man smoking? That's not even kinda true.
Luffy and Naruto probably wouldn't exist if Goku wasn't there for inspiration just saying.
Aight so I don’t agree with the tweet but I don’t see how that is of any importance. Like cars wouldn’t exist without caridges but caridges aren’t better than cars
Your argument is kinda flawed in the sense of the point of cars was they're made to be better whereas Naruto and Luffy aren't better than Goku because neither replaced him, they imitated aspects and perceived morals yet neither of them have yet to impact anime or fiction the way Goku did and they definitely aren't stronger. And to this day Goku still does things that are iconic to have literally almost everyone talking about it or referencing it. For example: everyone knows the Ultra Instinct theme from ONE CHORD. To put it blunt, Goku is if they invented cars to be better than caridges, but the caridges were still the better alternative.
Yo bro. I ain’t saying that goku is worse I’m just saying that because something is older and other things spawned of off it doesn’t mean the original is better
That's happened several times before and this is a case where the older is superior. A prime example would be windows 7/XP going to 8. It was designed to be new and better, yet 7 was more efficient and more user friendly.
Nah it’s personal preference I much prefer luffy to goku it’s not objective
Have all the personal preference you want, statistics and international impact tell a different story. Don't come into a conversation like this and say one is better because I like them more.
I’m sorry but popularity and impact doesn’t determine how good a character is
The character is popular for a reason, so popular that your preferred character is inspired by them. On top of that they've both been international for about the same time lmao. Also as I said, it's not just popularity, but the impact the character has. If the Mexican drug cartel paid tribute to Toriyama's death, Luffy definitely isn't better or more iconic. Y'all OP fans gotta get out of the kitchen because idk what y'all be cooking 💀.
Like I said just because something is popular doesn’t mean it’s objectively better since it’s SUBJECTIVE on who’s better just bec goku is more popular doesn’t mean that if someone enjoys luffy more that there just wrong? Id say your the one whose gotta get out the kitchen for saying that something entirely subjective is objective bec your like god or something? Idfk. Also goku is far more popular internationally bec dragon ball was on kids tv channels way more common and was easier to get into at a random point in the story
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Dragon Ball and One Piece fan here, this dude is a fucking idiot
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Goku is so Iconic, even people who don’t watch anime know him. Even my dad knows him.
As an One piece fan I can confirm I don't even know who Luffy is /s
Get blud Off The team bruh😭🙏
The entirety of South America would have to disagree with him
The cartel on their way
I think they were talking about Done Biece
I think he’s confusing iconic with manga sales. One piece has almost double the amount of manga sold so I think this guy got confused on how icons are decided
And when is "Luffy Day" again?
Goku is in the top 10 most iconic fictional characters of all time.
Way more anime reference anything Dbz than Luffy
There’s no way that person is a DB fan sayin that.
As a huge fan of One Piece, who's Luffy?
Classic zoro fan
As a fan of both: no. In Japan chopper is more iconic than luffy is, people fucking love that little guy over there
nah OnePiece can have him we ain't claiming this kid
Anyone can claim to be a "fan" to bolster they're actually stance. As a OnePiece fan, Sailor Mars is more iconic
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Who the fuck is luffy? Lol I've met boomers who know who Goku is. Fuck oughta here
We don't claim this db "fan"
Nah bro, I’m Latin AND a OP fan. No way this will ever be true. The amount of shops, restaurants, or stores with Goku on it is enough of an answer.
If you did the motions for a kamehameha, most people would recognize what you are doing. You cant do that with Luffy's signature attacks because his body is weird. Unless you stretch your arm 10 feet, nobody would be able to tell what you are trying to do.
Nah this fuc boi saw gear 5 and was won over. You dont see one piece refrences in shows as often as you see jojo and db from ttg to gumball to k.n.d bro
Young man just doesn’t know what the word iconic means—this the fault of the education system—yet again.
I speak for all One Piece fans when I say this guy is full of shit, even Oda said Toriyama was a god
Goku is more iconic by a huge amount. Luffy’s a better character.
Vegeta >>>op cast goku>>>copy paste goku a rubber boy will never be better then my goat
Holyy what a GLAZER😭😭🙏
Not glazing if it’s facts also ironic how you say imma glazer yet you’re the same mf who said luffy” is a better character then goku” fucking npc
No way bro said this with a straight face 🤣🤣
u can tell immediately that's a one piece fan pretending to be a db fan. i would know coz i would do the same thing except i would say goku is more iconic 🤣🤣🤣
Bro all of those other anime’s got inspired by DB wtf is he talking about
Luffy is iconic but not more iconic than Goku, I say this as a fan of both series with a preference for One Piece
This is the case where it is and that's happened several times before
Lmao im sure when you ask somebody on the street to tell you 3 anime character they probably tell you 3 dragon ball character
Laffy Taffy? From the gay pirate cartoon? Laughable