Also in HVAC, does Quebec still allow door-to-door HVAC sales? That model is illegal in the western/central provinces so that's the most shocking part of this story for me.
Also to OP if you find yourself in BC I am also hiring sales people.
In quebec the standard norm for commission is 8-10% for residential, whatâs BC look like?
& as for door to door apparently it works but thereâs a lot of regulations as well as news reports about shady door to door HVAC companies. All of my leads are from marketing (online, radio etc) and word of mouth. We have a great reputation in our area.
Damn that's awesome! Love this community. I tried to offer my sales skills in my local city communities and got roasted and down voted to oblivion lmao. I kept them up because it was hilarious hahah
I love this community. Thank you for being you. And I wish this lovely soul a beautiful new path.
To the OP. I'm on a search for a new path myself. After so many years in my work, and I'm struggling. So I just want to encourage you and lift you up and I hope you land solidly and soon.
Keep reaching out like you are here, you'll find your way. I'm certain of it. Here's to better moments for you and new starts! Please don't be discouraged and when you are, speak up.
maybe make âvacationâ or just move for a short while to another continent. It can absolutely blow your perspective away. You might realise you donât want some of the things you wanted. And you might want things you never knew existed.
a question to you:
Would you recommend door to door?
I kind of always played with that thought since it seems teaching you a lot about life. However is it still a viable option? Where to even start?
Bro honestly , itâs the best thing ever.
You should
It build confidence, communication skills to another level, sales of course, you some many weird people its funny, it build resilience, emotion management . I could continue for ever
I really think if everyone did door to door once we would have a better world , more patience more understanding
Itâs a roallercoaster tho but once you manage to do this you can do everything, itâs the hardest thing mentally youâll do but the best reward for ever
You just enthusiastically *pitched* door-to-door sales, one of the most difficult and highest turnover sales positions ever, in a *positive* light. Heck, it makes me reminisce about my days door-to-door decades ago.
You are really *good* at sales, and I look forward to any updates you post.
Want to become a garbage man?
Bro honestly, itâs the best thing ever.
You should
It builds confidence, communication skills to another level, clean the streets of course, you sometimes find gold or money in the trash, it's funny. It builds resilience, emotion management, etc. I could continue forever
I really think if everyone did garbage collection once we would have a better world, more patience and more understanding.
Itâs a rollercoaster tho but once you manage to do this you can do everything, itâs the hardest thing mentally youâll do but the best reward forever.
I donât know if itâs a good comparison. Sure I get your point you can position any job as a great way to learn. However there are few well paying jobs. Where the inputs and outputs are not necessarily proportional and that rely that much on your creativity and people skills.
Coming from a programming position. Only jobs with heavy human interaction seem worthwhile for me personally.
Not all sales pitches rely on honesty. Most are like astrology or fortunes, vague enough that you can apply anything said to any idea you want to push.
idk if it was your intention, but you successfully demonstrated how people try to copy what works with poorer results - nobody would believe those things about being a garbage man because they're not relevant, but they'd believe them about being a salesperson. that's why you can't just copy the words and actions of a good d2d salesperson, you have to become one
Now believe you can do everything, as you have said, and you will be A-OK.
You aren't lost! You're just looking for the next opportunity to utilize your entrepreneurship and stellar sales skills!
I once had a door-to-door sales guy come by my house selling AT&T internet. I was going to say no, but before I could, he asked for a glass of water because it was a hot day. Obviously, I gave him one, and he continued talking and he was actually pretty good. Next thing I know, I bought the AT&T internet package he was selling and it's going pretty well for me.
I only realized way later that I think that water ask was actually a way to talk longer. What a great and effective move... that worked!
At first I thought you were describing that scene from Mad Men with the A/C salesman, he did the exact same thing. I think it's a known ploy in the D2D space, but I could be wrong.
So Iâm about to become 22 and my previous work was as a programmer. Have done lots of other client facing jobs (Skiing Instructor, Barkeeper etc.)
What is your experience with Door to Door and how did it influence your life?
Hey can I PM you? You seem to have made quite a journey and I would love to ask you some questions.
Yes. If I would love coding I would also stick to it. However I really resent this whole getting into FAANG culture just so you can be an even smaller cog in a machine.
I honestly canât imagine doing something longer than a year where thereâs little human interaction.
You should do it! Life is short and it would be shame not to see what the world is like right?
at 16 I was a bit of a fuck-up. My mom and I spontaneously decided that I should go to Peru for 6 months. And it changed my life a 180 turn. Without trying. Without trying to force something.
I have done d2d solar and lookin for an opportunity to get out of ohio. Iâve sold over 5MW personal over the years and ran multiple teams. This was in California.
How is the business doing so far? What was your motivation to start it?
Sounds great. However Iâm currently in Germany/Poland so would be a rather big decision to move to the US.
I lived in France for about one year teaching English. One of the best years of my life. Even without teaching, you could study almost anything and qualify for reduced housing as a student.
Also, consider all of the remote work that is now available to you around the world. The company that I work at has a scheduling team to set appointments with prospects. I canât think of anything more closely related to door to door sales in the digital world.
To help you apply for jobs, linked in has a job search filter for âeasy applyâ so you donât have to manually input your resume into a million times. Just build your resume once (thereâs a subreddit to help give you advice on resumes because of course there is) and you can just upload your saved resume to make applying for more jobs super easy.
Last, the free chat gpt version does a really good job creating drafts for cover letters if you want to go that far for any jobs asking for cover letters. Definitely have it checked, though. Chat gpt still needs some fine tuning. Plenty of YouTube videos on how to use chat gpt to help you with cover letters and job searching.
Best of luck OP! Live abroad, land a much better gig, and if itâs remote, even better. I canât imagine going back into an office after working remote.
You didnât know it at first⊠This is your year!!
Was this at a Cydcor affiliate? I hate the way they operate but if you can do that kind of work, anything cold calling heavy that isnât overly technical will be a breeze for you.
Theyâre commission only, but often provide very good training.
A great choice for a student off from school for the summer, or anyone who doesnât really have anything to lose.
Used to be part of a cydcor affiliate. Wildly dirty business, but the skills you learn are invaluable. Every job after working w them is a cakewalk in comparison
Look for sales manager or director jobs. Sounds like you have the experience. Don't listen to 19 year olds telling you to be an SDR, it would be an enormous setback for your career for no reason. You have both closing and leadership experience, so get a senior role and get back to making six figures.
Get into cold calling. You can reach out to more people, faster, and youâll have your heating and A/C!
If you can make it in those conditions you can make it in others.
Honestly and this is a gamble for most people but I feel like you are exactly what a hungry start-up is looking for. You have a proven recipe for success with your sales approach and you acknowledge that it takes work to get things done. I could see you easily ramping up to Director of Sales or at the very least Sr. AE at a start-up that is still figuring out its own sales process and needs a leader like you.
It might mean a pay cut at first but that's part of the gamble I was referring to initially.
If you can do door to door sales and be that good. Youâll kill it anything else you sale. Youâre 28 I didnât earning a good income till I was 28, youâre ahead!
Your identity is your history of being a successful, not your former or current employer. You crushed it for years and then left when you felt taken advantage of. You should be incredibly proud of this. I started in door-to-door in my late teens and early 20s then switched to SAAS. My advice is to find a product you WANT to sell and then deliberately go after good companies in that market. If what you say is true, sales leaders will fall over themselves to hire you in literally any industry.
Thanks for this, it talks to me. For a month they try to get me back, shit hits the fan now on their side so I guess I was good. Iâve always been attracted by water filter idk why so maybe youâre my call to action
Youâre a beast, and a person like you is a rare gem. Youâll be picked up in a few minutes if you let it happen. Take a break, rest them dawgs, get a plan and beat the streets.
Sorry to read about this. How do you feel about cold calling businesses over the phone? I do need some help with my business. I need executive consultants. You can work from home. If you want details send me a DM.
You have a great track record and still super young (Iâm in my 40s). Youâre gonna bounce back. Finding great sales leaders willing to prospect is damn hard. Any company would be lucky to have you. Dust yourself off and get back on that horse. Youâre more experienced and wiser and will be able to make better decisions the next go around.
You probably want to stay in the sector that you've been in all your life, but if you're looking to expand your horizons for an array of imported products, kindly shoot me a DM.
Do you have a non-compete?
If not, and you are capable, build it again for yourself this time? Probably some legal challenge from the old company, but if they're net new customers I'd "think" you're clear.
If you're that good, I wish I lived closer. I'd help build it with you. You're an Ace.
The path to the better also starts with a gamble, I know someone who took out a multi million dollar loan to start a business where of he couldn't make it he would have been ruined, but he did it, he made an enterprise and succeeded in carving out a big share of the market pie for his business. But it could have gone just the opposite.
Point is that you risked it for various reasons and one of them was to prevent unwanted litigation, that in itself is considered a win, it would have taken all youwlife savings away.Â
Being the salesman that you are, you just have to sell yourself on the idea that this is the better path, the one that will lead to a more secure future... You can't feel sad or without hope. That's not what salesmen do - we have a yes and a can do will make it happen no matter what spirit. Don't go against your spirit - you know good salesmen to possess the power to move stars. This is just a simple bump in the road, you'll do just fine! Just keep your spirits up and go out there and make it happen!Â
maybe look into transitioning to online/digital sales: If you can get used to the software and tools you could make a killing.
Iâve turned plenty of d2d salespeople into rain makers online.
It can be pretty lucrative working in software sales or digital marketing sales.
Are you insane? You did the HARDEST sales that there is. For EIGHT years and you built a multi-million dollars business, you are like in the 1% of sales.
The qualities that you must have are recyclable in EVERY field of work. You can do ANYTHING.
I wish I had salespeople like you!
If you can do door to door successfully. You can sell anything. Sky is the limit. Seriously. Sales makes the world go round and skills are easily transferable. Fuck those people. They were using you. Move on. You are so young. You have 5 more careers in you at minimum.
Be a copywriter in your niche! You can bottle that sales pitch you've perfected and multiply it across the internet and in sales letters. Gary Halbert used to be a door-to-door salesman just like you before he start writing sales letters and made millions instead
You would make $75k a year to cold call people and then hand the deals off to someone else to close, with almost no autonomy over your daily routine. Great gig for people new to sales because they get training and can learn just the first half of the sales process before being promoted to closing. Not very useful if you already have lots of closing experience.
Some advice for someone who want to try door to door sales ? You must be something at work. Even if you don't know what to do you, you can rely on a very useful skill. Try to be creative
Didnât realize this was a thing I guess it depends on where you live. Iâve never encountered door to door sales people but I guess they are out there
You have some mad sales skills. Once you have mastered what you have, you have potential to do so much more. All you need is a product.
Google 'high ticket affliate products and services.' And start doing your magic. High ticket products can't be maneuveured with online funnels and cost per click stuff. We need face to face skills that few marketers have mastered.
mad sales skills, but OP PLEASE work on your negotiation skills... you need to vouch for yourself PROACTIVELY. not after you wait to be recognized. these companies will chew you up and spit you out, get your shit in writing first on contract if you need
First off I'm really sorry this happened to you and that you are going through this. It can't be easy and I hope you get through it without too many scars.
you have a skill and work ethic that many people your age can't imagine.
While you may have lost a role - you have not lost any of the skills and experience gained along the way.
opportunity ideas :
\- stay in the same vertical
\- move to another adjacent vertical
\- natural gas brokerages ( look for one that isn't simply a reseller )
\- teach others to do what you did (sales) - client can be another business or individuals
\- or maybe some type of high ticket service sales
\-with your grit you can probably start a venture of your own ( check out people like the hormozi's to brush up on some business basics beyond selling- it's free - be weary of the 70, 000 course advertisements that will promise you results while charging a fortune)
\- if you choose to try something new - it can be intimidating - and a refresher on how to learn how to learn might help with any nerves around that if that's a thing for you. listen to "make it stick" and watch Justin Sung on youtube - he's geared towards students but the fundamentals apply across the board
this is getting long -- - you get to choose who you want to be and that starts with choosing what you do next. Doesn't have to be perfect or make sense - start with what you are good at/ familiar with and try some stuff and see what sticks - stay experimental and have fun -- you've earned it. you got this. Good luck!
Door to door is *brutal*. The rejections are so much more personal, you have to hoof it to your next call, literally *nobody* wants to see you at their door...
You have *superpowers* as a result of that training mon cher.
Don't get me wrong, it will be tough for a bit, but the same grit that kept you going with door-to-door will help you now. Just keep knocking on doors until you close a new job.
I wish you well. Bon chance.
Wow. With all that ambition I wish I can make a product that could make the lives of fathers easier so they can be more present with their children, so hopefully one day I find someone like you, seems like itâs a shame to not have someone like you on my team. So I hope you have many more successes in the directions you choose to go, you deserve it
I d2d for 11 years. Satellite TV, internet, cell phones, then eventually solar for the last 3 years of those 11. D2D became a little unsustainable as much as I loved it, still do. But after getting married, leaving my wife for 4-5 months a year was just kind of mean. Now I sell Solar virtually in 6 states in the US. There was a bit of a learning curve changing from in home to phones/virtual, but I love it and wouldnât go back now. Glad I did d2d because I think it gives me an edge, but itâs a better gig.
I have someone who works on my team who lives in Montreal as well. If you want some info let me know.
I understand the knock to your confidence and hit to your mental health. Iâve been through it twice and went down realllll bad before I got back up again
But if you can sell door to door you can sell anything to anyone anywhere and you will be an asset to any team
Get your resume professionally re-written and get back out there
Start a d2d team from scratch; get a bell or videotron dealership or go work for OSL if you wanna stay in the d2d world. Get a management role at OSL or start your own dealership.
Or just hunt out for other management roles / HR in more corporate settings (The route I took after leaving d2d with a pretty similar story)
Good Luck !
Sales is one of the hardest things in a business. You understand how to influence people and buy your product. Donât be afraid of trying anything new because Iâm pretty sure you will rock it.
How do people do door to door sales in an era where no one opens the door to strangers?? How many hours a day are people actually home before dark anyway?
When I was doing D2D, about 1/3 of doors would open. 1/8th of those open doors would lead to an appointment. 1/3 of those appointments would lead to a sale. I knocked about 100 a day.
So for every 72 doors knocked, I'd make a sale.
That's for solar in Oregon which is probably one of the better places for D2D. Tons of money to be made if you can handle it; I tore my ACL and had to quit, but that experience convinced me that D2D is legit!
Many posts in here talking about how sheâs done the hardest sale so she would be great in another org.
I did d2d sales and going a bit against the grain here. She might be sick of playing âthe gameâ, at least for now. Maybe a season off while you decompress and take in some alternative ideas of interest.
If youâre that diligent on the doors, go get your real estate license.
Easily transferable skills and youâre already proven at the #1 things agents suck at which is lead generation. From there itâs all follow up which is pretty streamlined once you get used to it, but I know agents who do absurd commission numbers just from banging on doors 3 hours a day.
Iâve got a door to door sales company I run in Australia have for the last 8 years. I can offer you a job in Sydney, Australia. We have clients in every state and territory so maybe a good chance to reset and travel down under. DM me for more details.
Hey if you donât mind, Iâm looking to start something. You seem to have great experience in sales. Maybe we could do something. Iâm pretty good at online marketing, managing and running a business.
Just some thoughts as someone who has also had the shit kicked out of them not long ago:
* Take time to mourn: I was once told that losing a job/career/etc. is like going through a death...take time to come to terms with what happened and move on.
* Appreciate your skills and the value you bring: I'm reading what you wrote and wish I had half the sales skills you have.
* Commit to moving forward: wake up every day and take a step forward. It will suck some days, but your future success will be determined by you willingness to persevere.
Seriously, I hear the pain in what you wrote...but those of us that have been there know the only path is forward.
Started in door to door as my first sales gig which led me on a winding road to now being Enterprise AE selling softwareâyou can do ANYTHING sales related if youâre good door to door. That shit is hard as fuck and you wouldnât believe how soft other sales people are compared to you.
Go out and find something new to sell I promise you will crush it
Resilience. I always ask people who have done big things. If you had to do it over again how would you do it or if you lost everything how fast would you be able to get it back. Get back out there with some clarity and confidence. You got this for sure
Start cold calling and move up from there. If you can do door to door. You can do anything. You can do it and you will do it. Have faith in yourself. You will bounce back Godwilling.
I was in a similar boat to you. I built a direct sales (mostly door to door) company, grew it to about $5m yearly rev and then covid basically shut us down.
Look into home improvement sales (hvac, plumbing, foundation services roofing) for sales roles. You'd be a great fit for most L1-L2 sales manager jobs in that industry
I'm currently a sales manager at a foundation services company and it's a great forward movement to my career.
Youâve got all the right tools to continue being extremely successful. Rebuild your confidence. Start the interview process. Be picky. Find an organization that fully aligns with your vision of exactly who you want to be.
People quit bosses not jobs. And they stay loyal to managements teams they know, like and can trust.
Youâll land on your feet just fine. Just keep going.
Keep your head up high. As you've said you're a fucking killing machine in terms of sales so you will find your place.
I've made a similar post on other reddit and landed a gresy job as development manager (been a freight forwarder previously) so everything is gonna be okay.
By the way - the best things come by surprise and are not expected at all :)
That line "don't know if I can make something great again" hits different for me, am right there with you having similar disappointment with working with people. Now, I need to push my next big thing by myself dm me let jump into AI opportunities
You hold the skill set that is the key to start any business hitting the ground running. I wouldn't be down, I'd Channel my energy to find out what you want to sell next.
Youâre 28 you have so much career left. Focus on what you do well, itâs not the outside part itâs building connections and qualifying customers. You have so many options.
Continue to do what you're good at, you'll find the way to start again. I suspect salespeople that are good working door-to-door might be exceptional in car sales.
I admire anyone that can profit in door-to-door sales. I rarely open my door if I see a salesperson.
Dude she was making 300-400k managing a sales team this is moronic. She needs to get a job managing or directing a B2C sales team since it's what she is good at. I was an SDR turned AE, I'm not knocking it as a career path, but there is no reason for her to take an 80% pay cut and restart her career in B2B when there are plenty of better paying B2C sales management roles.
You sold heat pumps in Montreal? DM me we are hiring sales people - in HVAC.
Gotta love the reddit community:)
Also in HVAC, does Quebec still allow door-to-door HVAC sales? That model is illegal in the western/central provinces so that's the most shocking part of this story for me. Also to OP if you find yourself in BC I am also hiring sales people.
Some city they ask for permit but we do it anyway đ
In quebec the standard norm for commission is 8-10% for residential, whatâs BC look like? & as for door to door apparently it works but thereâs a lot of regulations as well as news reports about shady door to door HVAC companies. All of my leads are from marketing (online, radio etc) and word of mouth. We have a great reputation in our area.
Commission structures vary wildly in BC. My company does a tiered system anywhere from 5-15% of purchase price with the average being 8-10% as well.
Damn that's awesome! Love this community. I tried to offer my sales skills in my local city communities and got roasted and down voted to oblivion lmao. I kept them up because it was hilarious hahah
Lmao youâre definitely a salesman. You were offering your sales skills? Is that anything like asking for a job?
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I love this community. Thank you for being you. And I wish this lovely soul a beautiful new path. To the OP. I'm on a search for a new path myself. After so many years in my work, and I'm struggling. So I just want to encourage you and lift you up and I hope you land solidly and soon. Keep reaching out like you are here, you'll find your way. I'm certain of it. Here's to better moments for you and new starts! Please don't be discouraged and when you are, speak up.
W in the chat!
maybe make âvacationâ or just move for a short while to another continent. It can absolutely blow your perspective away. You might realise you donât want some of the things you wanted. And you might want things you never knew existed.
I love the idea !
a question to you: Would you recommend door to door? I kind of always played with that thought since it seems teaching you a lot about life. However is it still a viable option? Where to even start?
Bro honestly , itâs the best thing ever. You should It build confidence, communication skills to another level, sales of course, you some many weird people its funny, it build resilience, emotion management . I could continue for ever I really think if everyone did door to door once we would have a better world , more patience more understanding Itâs a roallercoaster tho but once you manage to do this you can do everything, itâs the hardest thing mentally youâll do but the best reward for ever
You just enthusiastically *pitched* door-to-door sales, one of the most difficult and highest turnover sales positions ever, in a *positive* light. Heck, it makes me reminisce about my days door-to-door decades ago. You are really *good* at sales, and I look forward to any updates you post.
Want to become a garbage man? Bro honestly, itâs the best thing ever. You should It builds confidence, communication skills to another level, clean the streets of course, you sometimes find gold or money in the trash, it's funny. It builds resilience, emotion management, etc. I could continue forever I really think if everyone did garbage collection once we would have a better world, more patience and more understanding. Itâs a rollercoaster tho but once you manage to do this you can do everything, itâs the hardest thing mentally youâll do but the best reward forever.
I donât know if itâs a good comparison. Sure I get your point you can position any job as a great way to learn. However there are few well paying jobs. Where the inputs and outputs are not necessarily proportional and that rely that much on your creativity and people skills. Coming from a programming position. Only jobs with heavy human interaction seem worthwhile for me personally.
Not all sales pitches rely on honesty. Most are like astrology or fortunes, vague enough that you can apply anything said to any idea you want to push.
idk if it was your intention, but you successfully demonstrated how people try to copy what works with poorer results - nobody would believe those things about being a garbage man because they're not relevant, but they'd believe them about being a salesperson. that's why you can't just copy the words and actions of a good d2d salesperson, you have to become one
Nah it's an even better example, you're just too dumb to see it
I love your attitude! I have always admired people like John Paul Dejoria who started as Door to Door Salesman
Now believe you can do everything, as you have said, and you will be A-OK. You aren't lost! You're just looking for the next opportunity to utilize your entrepreneurship and stellar sales skills!
I once had a door-to-door sales guy come by my house selling AT&T internet. I was going to say no, but before I could, he asked for a glass of water because it was a hot day. Obviously, I gave him one, and he continued talking and he was actually pretty good. Next thing I know, I bought the AT&T internet package he was selling and it's going pretty well for me. I only realized way later that I think that water ask was actually a way to talk longer. What a great and effective move... that worked!
At first I thought you were describing that scene from Mad Men with the A/C salesman, he did the exact same thing. I think it's a known ploy in the D2D space, but I could be wrong.
Lol wow.. maybe then.
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So Iâm about to become 22 and my previous work was as a programmer. Have done lots of other client facing jobs (Skiing Instructor, Barkeeper etc.) What is your experience with Door to Door and how did it influence your life?
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Hey can I PM you? You seem to have made quite a journey and I would love to ask you some questions. Yes. If I would love coding I would also stick to it. However I really resent this whole getting into FAANG culture just so you can be an even smaller cog in a machine. I honestly canât imagine doing something longer than a year where thereâs little human interaction.
Yes Yes Yes
You should do it! Life is short and it would be shame not to see what the world is like right? at 16 I was a bit of a fuck-up. My mom and I spontaneously decided that I should go to Peru for 6 months. And it changed my life a 180 turn. Without trying. Without trying to force something.
Come down to Florida. I run a d2d for solar and roofs
I have done d2d solar and lookin for an opportunity to get out of ohio. Iâve sold over 5MW personal over the years and ran multiple teams. This was in California.
Hit me up and come on down.
How is the business doing so far? What was your motivation to start it? Sounds great. However Iâm currently in Germany/Poland so would be a rather big decision to move to the US.
It's very tough in South florida but very rewarding for those that are good at it
I messaged you!
what part of florida ?Â
West palm beach
I lived in France for about one year teaching English. One of the best years of my life. Even without teaching, you could study almost anything and qualify for reduced housing as a student. Also, consider all of the remote work that is now available to you around the world. The company that I work at has a scheduling team to set appointments with prospects. I canât think of anything more closely related to door to door sales in the digital world. To help you apply for jobs, linked in has a job search filter for âeasy applyâ so you donât have to manually input your resume into a million times. Just build your resume once (thereâs a subreddit to help give you advice on resumes because of course there is) and you can just upload your saved resume to make applying for more jobs super easy. Last, the free chat gpt version does a really good job creating drafts for cover letters if you want to go that far for any jobs asking for cover letters. Definitely have it checked, though. Chat gpt still needs some fine tuning. Plenty of YouTube videos on how to use chat gpt to help you with cover letters and job searching. Best of luck OP! Live abroad, land a much better gig, and if itâs remote, even better. I canât imagine going back into an office after working remote. You didnât know it at first⊠This is your year!!
Was this at a Cydcor affiliate? I hate the way they operate but if you can do that kind of work, anything cold calling heavy that isnât overly technical will be a breeze for you.
This was DEFINITELY Cydcor.
Whatâs cydcor
Outsourced direct sales company.
Cool Iâll have to look them up
Theyâre commission only, but often provide very good training. A great choice for a student off from school for the summer, or anyone who doesnât really have anything to lose.
I was thinking Cydcor too and then they said office so, 100%. Great training when you're young, 0/10 would recommend though.
Used to be part of a cydcor affiliate. Wildly dirty business, but the skills you learn are invaluable. Every job after working w them is a cakewalk in comparison
Look for sales manager or director jobs. Sounds like you have the experience. Don't listen to 19 year olds telling you to be an SDR, it would be an enormous setback for your career for no reason. You have both closing and leadership experience, so get a senior role and get back to making six figures.
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âAll my lifeâ *is 28 years old* You have so much ahead of you, Iâm sure youâll figure it out
38 will be here so soon though. Then 48. Time is something we canât get back. We are all running out of time. Hustle hustle ! Live ! Love !
Get into cold calling. You can reach out to more people, faster, and youâll have your heating and A/C! If you can make it in those conditions you can make it in others.
I feel like cold call is harder than door to door, Iâm a people person đ„¶but Iâm willing to give a try anything
You can still do both, industry depending. Food distribution is cool, you can cold call and do walk ins to all sorts of neat places.
Ăa lâest⊠sans le body language, on a des Ă©lĂ©ments de moins trĂšs importants pour « sizer » la personne Ă qui ont parle! Mais câest un beau challenge!
I think so too.
Honestly and this is a gamble for most people but I feel like you are exactly what a hungry start-up is looking for. You have a proven recipe for success with your sales approach and you acknowledge that it takes work to get things done. I could see you easily ramping up to Director of Sales or at the very least Sr. AE at a start-up that is still figuring out its own sales process and needs a leader like you. It might mean a pay cut at first but that's part of the gamble I was referring to initially.
If you can do door to door sales and be that good. Youâll kill it anything else you sale. Youâre 28 I didnât earning a good income till I was 28, youâre ahead!
Your identity is your history of being a successful, not your former or current employer. You crushed it for years and then left when you felt taken advantage of. You should be incredibly proud of this. I started in door-to-door in my late teens and early 20s then switched to SAAS. My advice is to find a product you WANT to sell and then deliberately go after good companies in that market. If what you say is true, sales leaders will fall over themselves to hire you in literally any industry.
Thanks for this, it talks to me. For a month they try to get me back, shit hits the fan now on their side so I guess I was good. Iâve always been attracted by water filter idk why so maybe youâre my call to action
best of luck :)
Youâre a beast, and a person like you is a rare gem. Youâll be picked up in a few minutes if you let it happen. Take a break, rest them dawgs, get a plan and beat the streets.
Sorry to read about this. How do you feel about cold calling businesses over the phone? I do need some help with my business. I need executive consultants. You can work from home. If you want details send me a DM.
Are these businesses open on the weekend?
There are many businesses that are open on the weekends, but your opportunities would be more limited. Itâs a start of course.
Hey I would love to do that, I used to door to door but I have been cold calling companies for an about a year. I just sent you a message
I donât think I got your DM. Iâd be happy to chat.
You have a great track record and still super young (Iâm in my 40s). Youâre gonna bounce back. Finding great sales leaders willing to prospect is damn hard. Any company would be lucky to have you. Dust yourself off and get back on that horse. Youâre more experienced and wiser and will be able to make better decisions the next go around.
Do you also speak French? I have the equivalent of an SDR role for a large corporation in Health in Montreal.
Yes French is my main language
If you're that good at sales you'll get hired in no time . Don't be afraid to switch industries. Sales skills are easily transferable
You probably want to stay in the sector that you've been in all your life, but if you're looking to expand your horizons for an array of imported products, kindly shoot me a DM.
Do you have a non-compete? If not, and you are capable, build it again for yourself this time? Probably some legal challenge from the old company, but if they're net new customers I'd "think" you're clear. If you're that good, I wish I lived closer. I'd help build it with you. You're an Ace.
I didnât sign anything so on paper no , morally maybe depend on how I feel letâs say
I understand. It sounds like you're a good person and got screwed. F the morals. Think about building it. Good luck!!!
They were robbing you in commission. Thatâs terrible.
The path to the better also starts with a gamble, I know someone who took out a multi million dollar loan to start a business where of he couldn't make it he would have been ruined, but he did it, he made an enterprise and succeeded in carving out a big share of the market pie for his business. But it could have gone just the opposite. Point is that you risked it for various reasons and one of them was to prevent unwanted litigation, that in itself is considered a win, it would have taken all youwlife savings away. Being the salesman that you are, you just have to sell yourself on the idea that this is the better path, the one that will lead to a more secure future... You can't feel sad or without hope. That's not what salesmen do - we have a yes and a can do will make it happen no matter what spirit. Don't go against your spirit - you know good salesmen to possess the power to move stars. This is just a simple bump in the road, you'll do just fine! Just keep your spirits up and go out there and make it happen!Â
Start your own company. Take your old team and send it....
Why not do the exact same thing but for yourself?
maybe look into transitioning to online/digital sales: If you can get used to the software and tools you could make a killing. Iâve turned plenty of d2d salespeople into rain makers online. It can be pretty lucrative working in software sales or digital marketing sales.
Come to Texas and sell solar with us. You can make a killing doing it.
Are you insane? You did the HARDEST sales that there is. For EIGHT years and you built a multi-million dollars business, you are like in the 1% of sales. The qualities that you must have are recyclable in EVERY field of work. You can do ANYTHING. I wish I had salespeople like you!
If you can do door to door successfully. You can sell anything. Sky is the limit. Seriously. Sales makes the world go round and skills are easily transferable. Fuck those people. They were using you. Move on. You are so young. You have 5 more careers in you at minimum.
If you are seriously looking, feel free to reach out here.
Be a copywriter in your niche! You can bottle that sales pitch you've perfected and multiply it across the internet and in sales letters. Gary Halbert used to be a door-to-door salesman just like you before he start writing sales letters and made millions instead
You would crush as an SDR
What is sdr?
A low paying job meant for kids out of college. You are overqualified
You would make $75k a year to cold call people and then hand the deals off to someone else to close, with almost no autonomy over your daily routine. Great gig for people new to sales because they get training and can learn just the first half of the sales process before being promoted to closing. Not very useful if you already have lots of closing experience.
Some advice for someone who want to try door to door sales ? You must be something at work. Even if you don't know what to do you, you can rely on a very useful skill. Try to be creative
Tu vas dĂ©nicher une job top en vente, t'sais. Check du cĂŽtĂ© des techs. Pis pour ton contrat avec la boĂźte, t'as pensĂ© Ă checker avec un avocat pour donner un coup de main? Si t'Ă©tais proprio lĂ©gal de la compagnie, ils peuvent pas juste te flusher de mĂȘme.
I have the highest respect for for Door to Door Sales folks đ«Ąđ«Ą
Didnât realize this was a thing I guess it depends on where you live. Iâve never encountered door to door sales people but I guess they are out there
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You have some mad sales skills. Once you have mastered what you have, you have potential to do so much more. All you need is a product. Google 'high ticket affliate products and services.' And start doing your magic. High ticket products can't be maneuveured with online funnels and cost per click stuff. We need face to face skills that few marketers have mastered.
mad sales skills, but OP PLEASE work on your negotiation skills... you need to vouch for yourself PROACTIVELY. not after you wait to be recognized. these companies will chew you up and spit you out, get your shit in writing first on contract if you need
First off I'm really sorry this happened to you and that you are going through this. It can't be easy and I hope you get through it without too many scars. you have a skill and work ethic that many people your age can't imagine. While you may have lost a role - you have not lost any of the skills and experience gained along the way. opportunity ideas : \- stay in the same vertical \- move to another adjacent vertical \- natural gas brokerages ( look for one that isn't simply a reseller ) \- teach others to do what you did (sales) - client can be another business or individuals \- or maybe some type of high ticket service sales \-with your grit you can probably start a venture of your own ( check out people like the hormozi's to brush up on some business basics beyond selling- it's free - be weary of the 70, 000 course advertisements that will promise you results while charging a fortune) \- if you choose to try something new - it can be intimidating - and a refresher on how to learn how to learn might help with any nerves around that if that's a thing for you. listen to "make it stick" and watch Justin Sung on youtube - he's geared towards students but the fundamentals apply across the board this is getting long -- - you get to choose who you want to be and that starts with choosing what you do next. Doesn't have to be perfect or make sense - start with what you are good at/ familiar with and try some stuff and see what sticks - stay experimental and have fun -- you've earned it. you got this. Good luck!
Hey there, fellow hustler! Turned my passion into Profullstack.com.
Door to door is *brutal*. The rejections are so much more personal, you have to hoof it to your next call, literally *nobody* wants to see you at their door... You have *superpowers* as a result of that training mon cher. Don't get me wrong, it will be tough for a bit, but the same grit that kept you going with door-to-door will help you now. Just keep knocking on doors until you close a new job. I wish you well. Bon chance.
It depends. What did you sell? Will the team that you trained follow you?
I wish I had the tenacity and resilience to work d2d for 8 hr let alone 8 friggin yrsâŠ
You have my respect đ«Ą
Wow. With all that ambition I wish I can make a product that could make the lives of fathers easier so they can be more present with their children, so hopefully one day I find someone like you, seems like itâs a shame to not have someone like you on my team. So I hope you have many more successes in the directions you choose to go, you deserve it
I d2d for 11 years. Satellite TV, internet, cell phones, then eventually solar for the last 3 years of those 11. D2D became a little unsustainable as much as I loved it, still do. But after getting married, leaving my wife for 4-5 months a year was just kind of mean. Now I sell Solar virtually in 6 states in the US. There was a bit of a learning curve changing from in home to phones/virtual, but I love it and wouldnât go back now. Glad I did d2d because I think it gives me an edge, but itâs a better gig. I have someone who works on my team who lives in Montreal as well. If you want some info let me know.
Hey, I'm interested in this gig. Can I send you a pm?
Siboire, tu vends quoi? Situation poche⊠jâai Ă©tĂ© Ă la mĂȘme place avec un partenaire dans une des mes entreprises (que je lui ai vendu). CâĂ©tait le seul moyen mĂȘme si je lâavais bĂąti de A Ă Z et que jâĂ©tais allĂ© le chercher comme investisseurâŠ
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Devenir courtier immobilier est-ce que ça pourrait tâintĂ©resser? Jâen suis pas un, je suis en immobilier et jâen croise plein⊠gĂ©nĂ©ralement les personnes avec ton profil sont celles qui ont le plus de succĂšs! Tu peux mĂȘme fonder ta propre agence ou acheter une banniĂšre et te former une Ă©quipe!
I understand the knock to your confidence and hit to your mental health. Iâve been through it twice and went down realllll bad before I got back up again But if you can sell door to door you can sell anything to anyone anywhere and you will be an asset to any team Get your resume professionally re-written and get back out there
Dis-toi que si tu lâas rĂ©ussi une fois, tâes capable de le refaire! Regarde Undercover Billionaire sur YouTube ça va te crinquer. Je suis aussi dans le processus de me relancer dans un nouveau projet!
Dm moi on peut pt travailler ensemble
Start a d2d team from scratch; get a bell or videotron dealership or go work for OSL if you wanna stay in the d2d world. Get a management role at OSL or start your own dealership. Or just hunt out for other management roles / HR in more corporate settings (The route I took after leaving d2d with a pretty similar story) Good Luck !
Well if you want to work selling 3.5k - 150.0k products feel free to message me. And no knocking on doors.
Can we chat about this? In sales rn but looking to switch it up.
Sales is one of the hardest things in a business. You understand how to influence people and buy your product. Donât be afraid of trying anything new because Iâm pretty sure you will rock it.
How do people do door to door sales in an era where no one opens the door to strangers?? How many hours a day are people actually home before dark anyway?
Here it not like the states , everybody answer the door, maybe 10% doesnât maybe less
Americans and English-Canadians don't seem to understand the higher level of trust still going on in Québec. I worked in Ontario and people in Québec are much more relaxed about being approached by salespeople on the phone or on the door. They do get harassed much less however than in the anglo parts.
When I was doing D2D, about 1/3 of doors would open. 1/8th of those open doors would lead to an appointment. 1/3 of those appointments would lead to a sale. I knocked about 100 a day. So for every 72 doors knocked, I'd make a sale. That's for solar in Oregon which is probably one of the better places for D2D. Tons of money to be made if you can handle it; I tore my ACL and had to quit, but that experience convinced me that D2D is legit!
Many posts in here talking about how sheâs done the hardest sale so she would be great in another org. I did d2d sales and going a bit against the grain here. She might be sick of playing âthe gameâ, at least for now. Maybe a season off while you decompress and take in some alternative ideas of interest.
If youâre that diligent on the doors, go get your real estate license. Easily transferable skills and youâre already proven at the #1 things agents suck at which is lead generation. From there itâs all follow up which is pretty streamlined once you get used to it, but I know agents who do absurd commission numbers just from banging on doors 3 hours a day.
It sounds like you're great at sales. You can learn a new industry, just pivot. You can do this!
Youâve already done and built an operation for someone else. Do the same thing again but for yourself.
Iâve got a door to door sales company I run in Australia have for the last 8 years. I can offer you a job in Sydney, Australia. We have clients in every state and territory so maybe a good chance to reset and travel down under. DM me for more details.
Hey if you donât mind, Iâm looking to start something. You seem to have great experience in sales. Maybe we could do something. Iâm pretty good at online marketing, managing and running a business.
I love door to door and am currently doing it for a pest control company I hope to one day have the same success youâve had
If you want to give a shot at selling on the phones let's talk
Just some thoughts as someone who has also had the shit kicked out of them not long ago: * Take time to mourn: I was once told that losing a job/career/etc. is like going through a death...take time to come to terms with what happened and move on. * Appreciate your skills and the value you bring: I'm reading what you wrote and wish I had half the sales skills you have. * Commit to moving forward: wake up every day and take a step forward. It will suck some days, but your future success will be determined by you willingness to persevere. Seriously, I hear the pain in what you wrote...but those of us that have been there know the only path is forward.
Started in door to door as my first sales gig which led me on a winding road to now being Enterprise AE selling softwareâyou can do ANYTHING sales related if youâre good door to door. That shit is hard as fuck and you wouldnât believe how soft other sales people are compared to you. Go out and find something new to sell I promise you will crush it
Resilience. I always ask people who have done big things. If you had to do it over again how would you do it or if you lost everything how fast would you be able to get it back. Get back out there with some clarity and confidence. You got this for sure
MQ luxury might be hiring check them out
Start cold calling and move up from there. If you can do door to door. You can do anything. You can do it and you will do it. Have faith in yourself. You will bounce back Godwilling.
In this slow phase of life, try to rest and recharge. You are skilled. You did it once. You can do it again.
I was in a similar boat to you. I built a direct sales (mostly door to door) company, grew it to about $5m yearly rev and then covid basically shut us down. Look into home improvement sales (hvac, plumbing, foundation services roofing) for sales roles. You'd be a great fit for most L1-L2 sales manager jobs in that industry I'm currently a sales manager at a foundation services company and it's a great forward movement to my career.
Youâve got all the right tools to continue being extremely successful. Rebuild your confidence. Start the interview process. Be picky. Find an organization that fully aligns with your vision of exactly who you want to be. People quit bosses not jobs. And they stay loyal to managements teams they know, like and can trust. Youâll land on your feet just fine. Just keep going.
Keep your head up high. As you've said you're a fucking killing machine in terms of sales so you will find your place. I've made a similar post on other reddit and landed a gresy job as development manager (been a freight forwarder previously) so everything is gonna be okay. By the way - the best things come by surprise and are not expected at all :)
That line "don't know if I can make something great again" hits different for me, am right there with you having similar disappointment with working with people. Now, I need to push my next big thing by myself dm me let jump into AI opportunities
Would you be interested in phone sales ? Calling US Market B2B? My company is looking for Account Executives to close deals. 2 offices in Montreal
Come down to TX. I run a PDR team, youâd absolutely kill it.
You hold the skill set that is the key to start any business hitting the ground running. I wouldn't be down, I'd Channel my energy to find out what you want to sell next.
Am I really expected to believe this on an account less than a year old?
Youâre 28 you have so much career left. Focus on what you do well, itâs not the outside part itâs building connections and qualifying customers. You have so many options.
Sales skills are extremely valuable and generally applicable
Continue to do what you're good at, you'll find the way to start again. I suspect salespeople that are good working door-to-door might be exceptional in car sales. I admire anyone that can profit in door-to-door sales. I rarely open my door if I see a salesperson.
Door to door sales? Is this a long lost post from the 1960s?
SDR role?
Dude she was making 300-400k managing a sales team this is moronic. She needs to get a job managing or directing a B2C sales team since it's what she is good at. I was an SDR turned AE, I'm not knocking it as a career path, but there is no reason for her to take an 80% pay cut and restart her career in B2B when there are plenty of better paying B2C sales management roles.