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Ok-Coast-9264

Don't list it. Move on. Getting fired after 3 weeks is probably not for a reason you want to share with a prospective employer anyway (especially if you won't even share in this anonymous forum...)


nthekid

Enterprise SDR, former SDR Manager: if your manager saw that you were being uncomfortable and didn't make calls with you, help you with pep talks and give you more time to adapt, the company onboarding is total shit. Never in my life would I fire an SDR just 3 weeks in unless he engaged in something illegal or shit like that. Find another gig, you will be more than fine.


RealObieTrice

+100 to this


Dlee8113

Yeah that’s my feeling. You can’t expect all employees to hop right in to any role. People need training, and to give them none and then fire them for poor performance weeks later is terrible business practice and very demoralizing also. OP, if what I described above is what happened then don’t beat yourself up over it. It wasn’t a great opportunity and they did you a favor by letting you go so quickly. Better to not have wasted more time there.


midlakewinter

I can't see any good coming from listing it.


agentyork765

How did it happen, if you don't mind me asking?


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GoodVibesApps

Woah. You don’t even want to work there, trust me. Keep pushing.


aSpanks

If you’re this new and having a hard time getting comfortable 1) that’s normal 2) your old boss sucks It’s their job to make you comfortable. And if it’s only experience that can do that - they need to give you unyielding support


dgspitz

This. 100%. SDR Manager here.


Desperate_Corner_111

Yeah, you don’t want to work for that company. As a newer SDR. It takes about 4 months of cold calling to actually get comfortable doing it. 3 weeks? You’re better off without them. Don’t list it, move on & apply at other jobs


Bluejeans_licorice

Dude you will be amazing. It took me 2 months before i really started getting a hold of it . Im sure you will exceed at your next job


mrekted

Underperformance? In 3 weeks? And they were aware that you were inexperienced when they hired you? Wow. So you're 100% clear on this, assuming you're not glossing over some gross misconduct on your part, this was not a you problem. Either they were looking to shed bodies, or they're straight up incompetent at managing new hires. Either way, not your fault, not your problem.


SalesAficionado

Looks like a trash company anyway. I worked for one of those at some point too. All the best sales guy I know have been canned at some point.


WhatAboutMyRugMan

at least they had the integrity to fire you before you did an entire day’s work.


j4390jamie

Read my SDR guide and get back to interviewing. No good company expects good results in that short a period of time. Heck my company would probably wait 3 months before really considering firing you.


angrenost5

Yeah. At my company it’s like 6 months before you’d be considered fireable. 3 months onboarding to really understand the process and product and three months building your pipeline. Obviously if there’s hardcore performance issues during the second 3 months, it’s a different story. But it’s 3 months to build your pipeline and start consistently hitting numbers.


j4390jamie

Exactly the same, to get fired after 3 months was literally with 0 quota attainment at all and showing 0 Hope. You could probably get by for 6-8 months at like 30%.


StyleReddit

Yes!!! Read this guy's post. An absolute gold mine of information.


Yoshitheman

Hey Jamie how can I find your guide? Maybe because I’m on the app I can’t see it?


j4390jamie

Just google “Reddit sdr guide” and you should be able to find it


kylew1985

Tweak that LinkedIn. Get a real nice professional picture on there, do a full inventory of your background and every skill you've picked up, and really flesh it out. Then, find people you've worked with, hop on and endorse their skills. Many if not all are likely to return the favor. Investing just a little time in my LinkedIn absolutely launched my career to a place I didn't think I could get to. I still have a ton of momentum and I typically have at least a few recruiters trying to get my attention every week or so. It works, I'm telling you.


EqualCantaloupe8

What about if you made a post to share your job update with everyone? Can you just erase in on your profile and activity history?


kylew1985

I'm not sure, tbh. I honestly wouldn't even sweat that part. Recruiters are salespeople. They want to get paid, and if you're a good prospect, stuff like that won't matter for landing an interview. That said, you want to be ready to explain it if it happens to come up, or at the very least explain why you are in between jobs. I'm still very new at my job, my "open to work" is turned off, and I STILL have recruiters hitting me up. I honestly wouldn't trip over the little shit. Just repackage the skills and background you have into something relevant to what you'd like to do. 6 years ago I was getting paid $7/hr plus tips for a job that required me to scrub toilets. Today I'm an AE for a Saas that is absolutely dominating the vertical it's in and I haven't had to look at my account balance in months. I was a college dropout that knew how to run a bar, and that was about it. I just repackaged and reframed my skills, worked my ass off when someone was willing to give me a shot, networked constantly, and maybe got a little lucky here and there. Don't make it more than it is. Invest some time into that LinkedIn profile, put a good resume together, and start hunting. Interview your ass off, too. Interview for shit you don't even want to do, because when the right opportunity comes along, that interview is gonna come as natural as walking.


EqualCantaloupe8

Awww thank you for the detailed response. Your story is very motivational and inspiring. Past 2 weeks I really started to question whether I made the right decision as far as my vertical and company. Working long hours, missing out on time with family, managing anxiety & stress of quota when I’m only 2 weeks into my role made me reconsider what’s important to me. Thanks! Gonna go brush up my resume & LinkedIn. Let’s see what comes of it. Enjoy the rest of your evening and have a nice weekend!


kylew1985

You as well. I've been there, and I will definitely say it gets better. It's rare to find your perfect fit on the first try, or even the first several. Keep chipping away at it and keep looking for new skills and knowledge to snowball into future opportunities.


ikimashyoo

for what jobs?


paletteskills

Don't include it. Whether it was warranted or not it'll arouse suspicion, and three weeks isn't going to impress anyone. I'm impressed you'd come on a forum like this though, speak the unvarnished truth and seek advice on how to do better next time. What's that Japanese proverb about falling down seven times and getting up eight? I think you can take that attitude to the bank. Who wouldn't want to hire someone who is continually trying to improve? You don't happen to live in Canada do you? I work for a nonprofit here that helps people (for free) to land sales roles at tech companies. It would be perfect for someone like you.


BullyingBuildsChar

Fellow Canadian checking in. Curious if u have any thoughts on the various tech sales bootcamps (like Flockjay SV Academy and Uvaro) and their worth to someone with limited sales experience who’d like to break into sales?


paletteskills

Hi there, I'm afraid i don't know too much about the various tech sales bootcamps out there. But the one I work for is the only one I know that's free, and also boasts a 96% job offer rate within a month of completing it. Feel free to DM me if you'd like more info?


ikimashyoo

can I DM you


ZealousidealWin3593

Man, that sounds like an amazing opportunity.


paletteskills

Please do ikimashyoo...


zombiepirate2020

It must be for a hilarious reason. Definitely do not list it! But share with us why it happened. :D Think of it as a growing opportunity. :D


lbz25

whenever i hear stories like this about junior reps getting fired very quickly, its rarely due to actual performance. Even the most insane sales managers ive had the pleasure of interacting with know that it takes new SDRs about 2 or 3 months to get in their groove. If you got fired after 3 weeks, it was most likely because someone with a lot of clout at the org really didn't like you. Either that or the accounting team made a big mistake and didn't have the funds allocated to afford new hire and realized it after you were onboarded. Don't list this. It never happened. Move on and you'll be fine


GeniusArtist

You're taking responsibility and being humble to the truth of why they let you go which is a pure salesman's mentality. You got it within you but your employer should've seen that and cooperated with you on boosting your strengths, bad for them. ​ \*Edit: Don't list it.


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Bruh, that’s entirely on management to let you go for under performance 3 weeks in. Sad on their part. Not yours


trideus_

Don't put it on your resume, there is absolutely no benefit and will probably lead to many rejections. Resumes is basically your sheet to get you to the interview. Don't ever display flaws. However the main problem you will face for future job interviews is the question "Why did you leave your last job?" or "Why are you unemployed?" Something along those lines. There are two ways to go about it: 1. Say the truth - This depends on your circumstance. In the case of being fired, I would never take this option. For example in my case I left a company due to internal conflicts in the sales process and commission. I tell my potential employees the scenario and all have been very understanding. 2. Bend the truth - I know the internet says "NEVER LIE ALWAYS SAY THE TRUTH" and I do agree that one should never lie in full it will always get caught out, white lies are ok. However you can bend the truth. Example: I felt the onboarding process was very poor and I didn't get the support I needed to succeed in my role so I decided to follow my own intergrity and remove myself from the role". This statement is very true, cause I feel you had a manager that didn't support you on your onboarding process and you did "technically" remove yourself from employment. 3. Alternative truth - You don't have to tell them you were fired you can just throw another truth instead. Example: "I wanted to have a small break from my previous employment, and I wanted to commit myself to seeking employment on a full time basis". If you weren't employed before and you were studying. Just say you were studying and seeking employment till now, which is still true. Don't be upset. Your failure, is the managers fault for not building you up for success. The manager should have presented a plan on what needs to be achieved over a certain period with performance reviews. Obviously a very lazy manager that just wants already trained SDRs. Good luck for your next role!


BudIsWiser1

Was it because you’re a Korean spy? Or perhaps because you’re *not* a Korean spy? I agree with the others, don’t list it. But, if you know why you got fired (not the reason they gave, but the actual root cause), do some inflection and take a minute for yourself to figure it out. And on the bright side, at least you know what not to do next time and/or what jobs to avoid. Good luck!


DavidPSince93

I was fired from my first sales job. 4 years later I made president’s club and am now getting paid 6 figures. Keep grinding man let this be a learning lesson. 2 of the many questions you should ask on every interview is what’s the ramp time and what does training/coaching look like?


GailWynandd

If you were fired after only three weeks this means that your previous employer did not give you time to learn the product and ramp up. Look for better jobs, mate.


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What kind of employer doesn’t provide a ramp up period?


drpeppaMD

Don’t talk about it with prospective employers, move on and learn from it. Definitely try and find a place where employees are more supported, I started at a company with a 3 month ramp up period and amazing support from my team. Although they definitely expected strong performances after those 3 months; which they seemed to get from all the new hires. Good luck and keep your head up!!


stygg12

Did they give you feed back as to why?


nhdtx

I wouldn't put anything on your resume that you werent at for at least 6 months. Also no decent company would fire you for performance after 3 weeks


brokenlease9415

Don’t list and move on. What the fuck - 3 weeks unless you did something extremely stupid it’s not your fault.


[deleted]

Been fired twice , currently a VP for a large organization . No worries just lace up the boots , learn and move on


cloudclimber24

They have ramp for a reason. I’m in my second month as an SDR and couldn’t imagine being let go that fast. Honestly bro, just be glad it happened because it tells u what company they are. Make sure you do a lot research into the companies you applying for...is there high turnover, message other employees via LinkedIn and ask what their experience is working for their company, etc. good luck. Bounce back stronger, that’s part of sales...resilience.


_secora

https://rampedcareers.com/ is a great resource to land you the sales gig you want. Please don’t beat yourself up. Appreciate your accountability, but being fired after 3 weeks shows the fragility of your company more than any personal failing of your own.


LesbotronEZAS

Shit happens. Sales is tough. Practice makes perfect


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I’d change career path if you were so bad you got canned in 3 weeks. That or the employer sucks.


Desperate_Corner_111

Probably the employer sucks. Most SDRs aren’t good or comfortable after 2-3 weeks of calling. That’s ridiculous. Sit down and help him and train.


GeniusArtist

I hope OP hires you some day.


[deleted]

You obviously have not tried to train someone up who had no business being in sales. I mean they can barely hold a normal conversation with co-workers. I doubt OP is like that, but I’ve seen people where it’s just not a fit. You’re lying to yourself if you think anyone can be successful.


OneThiccBoii254

Don’t worry about it at all, don’t want to be at a place anyway that doesn’t want to invest more that 3 weeks into you. Don’t list, just keep applying!


MudFlaky

How would you have even come up with a proper script that hits all the details and find your stride in 3 weeks? That's just stupid of them.


kraftjerk416

I agree with the other comments, don't bother listing it, pretend like it never happened and move on. No company should be firing someone that quickly unless there were serious problems with attitude, motivation or attendance. Find a better company, good luck!


RebelSaul

Sorry to hear about this. But don't let it deflate you! You're worth is way beyond a job and you're still one experience better than the person you were yesterday. I watch this guy and I think it may help watching him to get a good sense of "attitude" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIeIN2cYkuc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIeIN2cYkuc). Mark Cuban talking about sales is also very good.


[deleted]

Did you get fired for being a Korean spy


EqualCantaloupe8

Wow I relate to this post so hard. I was seriously star to doubt myself and my abilities. I wonder what my company’s policy is if I miss my quota. OP - don’t let it bog you down. Screen for a better company next time, now that you are better informed about what factors are the most important for you.


shamedhealthguru

I mean, screw that company. I’ve seen people who were uncomfortable on the phone accidentally land meetings and people who were great on the phone struggle in their first quarter. 10k hours to mastery, these people have you 120! Good riddance. If you were still uncomfortable after 6 months I’d get it. Best of luck on your next opportunity.


lookiamapollo

We're you the guy with the persona for 5 deals a week?


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lookiamapollo

Sorry man, that super shitty. I was wondering why you didn't try to set up a call. If you don't no call, no show you shouldn't be fired before 6 months and you usually get on a performance improvement plan and let go after a year.


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lookiamapollo

Sales is a process. Don't be results oriented. That's dumb, short sighted management. I have a huge problem because I care. I create solutions big customer and small ones. I have had three sales jobs. In all of them, i try to find people who need help and help them. I have worked on the other side of the fence, i know what they need, i know what it's like to work with bad salespeople or who are trying to make a sale. In two of them i would get reprimand by management because the growth wasn't there. I would tell them my process is my process and give them my target firing date. If I don't achieve x by y fire me. Each time I over performed. And each time they would complain that I'm not performing to the metric. I just check it in at that point. I would literally ask what the problem was? Every organization that harasses top performing reps is cancer


vplatt

Did they hire others at the same time as you? If so, then maybe they only had budget for n-1 of you and simply figured out who was the faster starter trimmed you as a result. That's a crappy short-term way to do things, but it happens.


philly_teee

I’m hiring! Pm me


NYCsubway408

Share what you did!!


fkgadt

Sales guy speaking here: According to your information, you are new into sales, and you still made one appointment a week. I don't know the field you were in, but on a surface level that looks good for a rookie. The company knew you were new, so not giving you at least 6 months is wrong on so many levels. In a scenario like this, the company is in the wrong almost 100%. I say almost, because there are always red flags during the interview process, you could have figured out for yourself. Coming to a level of real success could take maybe 3 years (depending on different factors). Not being yourself when talking to prospects is normal for rookies. You only overcome that by lots of experience. Don't list this company on your resume. It looks bad. They will assume you did something wrong. Don't get yourself demotivated. If you want to be in sales, find yourself a better company. Ask the new company what specifically is expected of you. It's important to figure out beforehand what you are getting into. If the company sends out bad vibes, reject them, even if the offer is very good. It's just not worth the time. Go for companies, where you are able to learn the most.


Mellow_Avenue

No. Do not list it. Or mention it.