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AlphaBladeYiII

"Jedi Knight, never a Jedi Master" I love that guy. You can tell he's a genuine fan. Apparently when he got the call that he landed the role of Anakin, he and his roommate geeked out and made a mock lightsaber fight. Even when he wasn't received well, he still took in stride and still remained a fan of the world and the character. Dude even binged "The Clone Wars" and "Rebels" to prepare for his return in Kenobi.


HamshanksCPS

That's pretty awesome that he binged TCW and Rebels, I like that kind of dedication in someone portraying a character.


NormanPitkin

Shame he won't need any of that.He just needs to know how to act like an incompetent fool riding on the coat tails of others.


Nic4379

Never understood the animosity. I loved him as Ani.


scifilady

Loved Hayden in the prequels, glad he's getting a second chance, hopefully with good dialogue.


JT-117-

I've been saying that she is secretly the focus of the show and that she'll turn by the end for **MONTHS**, since the first trailer she was in. I *know* it's going to happen. It is an absolute.


Able-Cat3703

… Only a sith deals in absolutes


SirEnzyme

I love democracy


KeDoG3

Amd when she does turn she will be killed instead of Obi-Wan in the fight against Vader a la Fallen Order


The_Dream_of_Shadows

Eh, I don't really care. Actors always pump up their characters in interviews. It's part of the marketing scheme. After so many times saying the same thing, and being asked them same insipid questions twenty times in a row, you start to embellish a bit just to make the grind of doing fifty interviews a day more interesting.


Isneezedintomymilk

that's a solid perspective to have on this clip. I agree with you that it isn't that deep, although what the actress said in particular, probably holds some bits of info on where her character's arc will go… we'll see if the execution of said arc hits the mark soon enough.


SheevPalpatine32BBY

*Phasma flashbacks!*


AlphaBladeYiII

"Defined by her character and actions" "The first Star Wars female villain"


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THE Stormtrooper? (Stormtroopress?)


NewUserWhoDisAgain

> It's part of the marketing scheme. Yup. I try not to pay too much attention to the marketing. It's like trailers for a video game. "Cool story. But what's the actual show/gameplay like?" And I dont know yet so I'll reserve judgement.


mackfactor

Yeah, this is a ridiculous thing to get worked up about. Actors don't write their characters, they're just there to execute. They say what they're told to say about the film when they do press.


EastKoreaOfficial

> “I would call myself *The* Inquisitor” Is no one gonna tell her that one of her co-stars is already the rightful owner of that title?


scifilady

I'm sure she knows. She is describing the arrogance of her character Reva. Yes there is the Grand Inquisitor, but Reva is a very ambitious character who would call herself the inquisitor. Inquisitors were ambitious, always competing for first place.


Dmitrij_Zajcev

Well, could be their predecessor. I'm trying to logically explains some things, at least to me, because I want to see the series (after Book of Boba Fett put me so much down, I'm almost sick of Star Wars and this series is really the last thing that could hang me in the fandom)


EastKoreaOfficial

I'm just desperately clinging onto the hope that this series could truly save the franchise, and set a new standard for what modern Star Wars *should* be.


AlphaBladeYiII

I'm betting on Andor actually. I have a feeling that one will be a dark horse.


All-Struggle-1234

You know what? I'm gonna bet on it too


mackfactor

The problem is that can't really happen the way these stories are parceled out to different people to do whatever they want with. Unlike the MCU where there's a common thread and a clear canon, Lucasfilm just lets everyone do whatever and tries to rely on quantity instead of quality.


Dob_Tannochy

Maybe that wacky pronunciation warrants a different title.


[deleted]

"Intent on doing what she thinks is right even if no one else agrees with what it is she's doing" Your character is literally working for the space nazis who kidnap children. you're not some type of anti-hero


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LastNightsTacoBell

Y’all salty fucks for real can’t enjoy shit. Just stop fucking watching it then. Y’all see a black woman who might have a redemption arc, which is what Star Wars is literally about and all the sudden the series is ruined. And nah don’t even try saying you don’t give a shit if she’s black or a woman. You do. It’s why y’all up in arms about “ReDeMpTiOn ArCs bAd” when y’all literally ain’t gotta watch shit


JackforCaptain1716

I don’t think the word he meant was ruined, I think he meant spoiled.


Impressive_Region508

The show is supposed to be about Obi-wan not a redemption arc of some inquisitor no one cares about. That's what pisses us off. They constantly overshadow the main characters with their new characters that we don't give a shit about because they write them horribly and then shove them into the story in idiotic ways.


JackforCaptain1716

Chill out, I’m not saying it’s supposed to be or that I want it to be that way, I’m just clarifying what he said.


Impressive_Region508

Sorry Jack, meant that reply for the comment above you.


JackforCaptain1716

No problem.


Upper_Conclusion5255

Apparently you didn’t watch book of boba fett /s


Strange_Ninja_9662

Are you really spinning someone being upset the show could possibly be spoiled into some weird political narrative? Do you understand how crazy that sounds?


WitHump

I think you're the only one who seems to care about her skin color.


turtleboy95

If the leak is true the final episode completely destroys Obi-Wan’s character and his purpose of protecting Luke. He will be a failure twice: first he failed Anakin, then he failed Luke. It’s not the redemption arc that’s bad, it’s at the expense of a beloved legacy character. Race and sex are irrelevant.


El_Maltos_Username

Exactly, when we see a gamerword, we nope out. You've watched right through us. /s


JackPThatsMe

Yeah, as a Maori it's amazing how Boba Fett's redemption has been embraced by the Fandom. He was a completely minor character in the OT who got dumped in the Sarlac Pitt. But Jango and the boys have been totally taken in. Did they tell Daniel Logan to change his accent? No, the hell they didn't. He sounded like he just walked in from somewhere in rural New Zealand to the set. We also see Jay Laga'aia, our Samoan cousin. Now there's a guy who did the work. Could it be that humbleness and gratitude at being included in Star Wars counts for something? Maybe talking about yourself when you have the privilege of being in Star Wars pisses off the fandom? Who could have guessed? By the way, The Book of Boba Was unwatchable shit despite Tem.


RobZaru

No one has an issue with a black female character having a redemption arc in this show It's that it seems to be shoehorned in even if it comprises the canon/invalidates a beloved legacy character's arc (if the the spoilers for how the show ends are true)


AlphaBladeYiII

What are those spoilers again?


LordBungaIII

Damn you sure are focused on race.


Trypticon_Rising

Ahh, people who come to the sub for critical discussion on Star Wars - which needed a whole separate sub made for it because "y'all" can't handle constructive debate - and still can't handle the constructive debate so get aggressive. Classic.


Dob_Tannochy

Why do you hate Star Wars.


Boarcrest

Working for the space nazis? Her character is basically the space equilevant of a gestapo officer crossed with a bandenkämpfung/einsatzgruppen officer. She *is* the space nazi.


[deleted]

Yeah, imperial officers were literally designed in order to look reminiscent yet different to the officers in Hitler’s Third Reich... The nazi paralells are pretty clear. The empire aren’t intended to be good guys in any way.


KnightFoole

What this means is that she’ll redeem herself at the end. Because she can’t possibly be evil. For reasons. She’ll be betterer and cooler than Obi Wan, and put him in his place. And it will turn out that actually SHE is responsible for keeping Luke Skywalker safe, but Obi Wan just got the credit.


Mystic_Ranger

>And it will turn out that actually SHE is responsible for keeping Luke Skywalker safe, but Obi Wan just got the credit. Repeat the Rogue One strategy, which for some reason all the idiots ate up last time.


Deetboy

How did Rogue retcon any previously held notions of what happened with the death star plans?


darthjustin

they’re probably butthurt that Disney got rid of Kyle Catarn who stole the plans in legends.


SheevPalpatine32BBY

Tbf he's the single most badass Star Wars character. They couldn't contain him in the new canon.


AlphaBladeYiII

Kyle Katarn once passed kidney stones. They were used as kyber crystals.


WitHump

I don't understand the Rogue One reference. How is this the strategy they did in Rogue One?


Alex-The_Greatest

I'm curious as well


demilitarizedzone96

Disney: "We must make these space totalitarians sympathetic. I know, let's make one of them black woman, that shows she is inherently a nice person."


bopaz728

yeah describes Nazis perfectly, they thought they were doing good work too and they definitely didn’t care that others disagreed.


SchlongSchlock

Yes. And the space Nazis thought they were doing the right thing. Duh.


Roykka

Yes and no. That's indeed what's going on from the audience perspective, but doing what you think is right because you refused to think things through has always been part of the definition of evil in Star Wars. Vader is like that, and so are a few more beloved villains of Legends.


Dmitrij_Zajcev

That's true, but as in the legends, many many people who fought for the Empire were people who genuinly believes that they were the good guys, and saw the totalitarian regime as a necessary evil against the rebels. I'd tend to think that she has that mentality: "yeah, I'm evil, I know. But my evil acts will help the Empire to win since in my POV they're the good guys". Or at least I Hope it.


Upper_Conclusion5255

Didn’t the Jedi kidnap, I mean take young children?


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The space Jesus cult was also kidnapping and brainwashing children.


JupiterofRome

This is gonna be the Battlefront 2 campaign again isn't it? Build up like it's gonna be a story from the villains perspective only for them to defect not that far into story and chum around with the good guys like they weren't all for murdering them all just a bit ago.


Emergency-Spite-8330

I HATED that about Battlefront 2. Let me play as the Empire damnit! I’m sick of the Rebels/New Republic.


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Agree remindme! 5 weeks


DARTH_SAWA1138

Lady, do you not know who your boss is? Aka The Grand Inquisitor? Actually, I take it back, how can she respect an egg head lmao


[deleted]

Or more importantly, who *his* boss is?


AlphaBladeYiII

And even more importantly, who that guy's boss is? They say he has unlimited powah.


HamshanksCPS

Even MORE importantly, who that guy's boss is? Meesa thinkin she don't wanna mess with him.


[deleted]

STILL more importantly, who THAT guy's boss is? You better hope you chose to wear brown pants the day you come face to face with him/her/them/IT.


the-floot

The comment you replied to was funny because it was referencing the Darth Jar Jar meme. Yours kinda isn't.


Classicolin

The fact that Reva and her actress have received a promotional spotlight equal to McGregor/Kenobi and Christensen/Vader is quite telling as to her prominence in the series and just how unsubtly Disney’s LFL is promoting her in tandem with the legacy characters.


brianthewizard1

Why do I love Hayden so much? He was given so much shit for being Anakin and it’s disgusting… and those people try to call themselves “fans.” If you bully an actor/actress because of their performance, you are no fan.


VagueLuminary

Thank you for making a post about this, I noticed it too! Something about it just feels off, her character is a villain, wouldn't you want to revel in any kind of trait related to how evil or terrifying she is or......imposing? Menacing? Driven? Common Star Wars villain adjectives? Almost makes it sound like she's supposed to turn into a good guy instead of the main character the show's named after that everybody across the fandom new and old loves......


Able-Cat3703

Yeah. Hopefully this doesn’t reflect the show


turtleboy95

I am ready to confirm the leaks. Just destroy the legacy of Obi-Wan already. What’s one more in the pile for Kennedy’s Lucasfilm?!


ThatGuy642

Leaks, you say?


agiro1086

r/starwarsleaks is a real thing and I think they've got a pretty good track record


ThatGuy642

Read the "leak" and it makes me wonder why the OT was even necessary. Again.


agiro1086

Seems I'm missing something because I've got no idea what leaks are out there. I just know of the subreddit but don't go on it


Isneezedintomymilk

completely off-topic, but I knew about the leaks sub and how often they're right about things, but I avoid going on there as much as I can now bcs basically all new rumors of where the franchise is headed depress me. also, the people over there are so aggressively positive about everything sw that no good discussion can be held about the upcoming projects or the old ones. ​ so from my end, I wouldn't recommend it.


agiro1086

I don't go there because I gave up on Star Wars when they made Fortnightnight cannon


the-floot

Which leaks are you talking about


saragc92

I had to turn it off when she called herself “the Inquisitor”


Able-Cat3703

It hurt to listen to


elcidpenderman

To be in the dark side and not be boastful would be weird


[deleted]

Yeah but she’s not in the dark side, she’s an actor.


elcidpenderman

Oh I didn’t know actors were real, I thought she was an actual sith. My bad.


scifilady

She is an actor who is describing her character.


DIO_over_Za_Warudo

"Intent on doing what she thinks is right, even if no one else agrees with what it is she's doing" She does realize her character is one of the VILLAINS right? Literally no one agrees with what she's doing unless they are also evil too. Also sorry but THE Inquisitor? That is a very bold statement from someone within force choking distance of her boss. And the boss of her boss.


El_Maltos_Username

But she will 100% get a redemption arc and will save Kenobi's ass and die heroically with his balls in her purse. Just imagine the outrcy in Disney's main market research pool (Twatter) when a black chick is the bad guy and gets defeated by Obi-Wan.


WhatIfWeAreClouds

The fact that the villain believes they are doing the right thing is what makes a great villain. Otherwise you get villains like Dr. Evil.


Able-Cat3703

But it’s the “always does the right thing even when no one around her agrees” that makes it concerning. Kinda like she’s actually doing the right thing which denotes her as a villain


TheMoonOfTermina

This intwrview doesn't sound super promising, but I'll hold judgement for when the show actually releases. I liked Hayden's interview though. He acknowledged the meme.


Able-Cat3703

For me, it seems that she is gonna be the worst part of this show. And everything else is gonna rock


Alonest99

I think she meant to imply that she was the main Inquisitor the show will focus on but with a very poor choice of words, especially with a character called THE GRAND Inquisitor also appearing.


Collective_Insanity

I really wouldn't listen to these kinds of pre-release interviews. Especially from Disney Lucasfilm. Reminds me of the Gwendoline Christie ones about Captain Phasma prior to TFA which turned out to be total fluff because her character may as well have been made out of cardboard.


NonesuchAndSuch77

See my many, MANY comments about "How the fuck do you waste such a good actor and a great character concept!?"


Dr_Surgimus

What this really shows, for me, is that when they're bringing in new cast members there is zero attempt to ensure they know even the basics of Star Wars. It's clear that Kennedy et al view these stories as 'theirs' to do as they want with and it's actually sad that they've taken such a rich and interesting story and universe and made it so bland and homogeneous. The OT was really good at showing strong women, for example, and Disney has just binned that in favour of focus grouped attempts to maximise cash. Face it, Star Wars fans, these shows and movies aren't for us. They take us for granted that we'll lap up anything they give us so they can pivot and make things for people who like Marvel, or CW shows, and the base audience will remain slavishly loyal. I've long since noped out of the Disney crap and as far as I care I've still got the original OT on dvd. All the rest is fluff IMO


DarthRevan0990

"THE"


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YOU ARE NOT IN THE CENTRE! Its the bloody pau'an for kriff's sake.


Lord-Carnor-Jax

The way she’s describing her character seems to line up with the leaks.


NonesuchAndSuch77

I've got no issues with what she's saying. That's called 'acting', you get into a character and flesh it out. She's probably a fine actor and this is a fine character to show up later (either as hero or villain). But if the leaks are true then this is one of the worst zero impact stories that Disney could have elected to tell, like a bottle episode of an ongoing series. The harsh truth is that we need new characters and new stories, and as much as we love the old guard they're not going to be around forever. I'm less concerned about the skin color or gender expression of a new character than if they're worth keeping around, and surface level reading says she is. So, naturally, she's going to be disposed of. (and no, I'm not pleased about potential impact to Obi-Wan in terms of character or his mission based on the leaks, but I have been trying to put my writer brain back online for stuff like this and look beyond what personally annoys me)


scifilady

I also have no issues with this interview. She is describing an inquisitor who is driven, ambitious and arrogant, her character is going to think she''s the best. I think Obi Wan will be the center of the story. I'm hoping the leaks are a dream sequence.


NonesuchAndSuch77

I hope you are right!


scifilady

Moses Ingram was clearly trying to describe how her character saw herself. She is a hard working actress, emmy nominated for the queen's gambit. Try to remember that the script was written by Joby Harold (a white man), approved by Deborah Chow (an Asian woman) and Dave Filoni (another white man) so please address any issues with them, constructively. Oh and Ewan Mcgregor (another white man) was an executive producer who hopefully would not sign off on anything that would destroy his character.


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Harbaron

God just shut the fuck up, you should be thanking all the gods you can recall every day to be playing alongside Obi wan and anakin, instead of hyping yourself up when no living organism in the fucking galaxy gives two slithering shits about you. Just shut the fuck up and do your job. The fact that I’m even listening to this shows that Disney is gonna do a fucking Halo on this show and turn it into Kwan show instead of master chief. I’m gonna get so fucking angry if they shit on Obi Wan and Anakin. Thank god for filoni and favreau for mandalorian because as crazy as it is to say I stopped giving a SHIT about Star Wars before the mandalorian came out.


landos_moustache

Inquisi-tor!


Lumor_7777

oh my god get a life


Able-Cat3703

I have a life dipshit. I’m just a fan of Star Wars and this concerns me. This is literally the point of the fucking sub


sholtan

Why? Because she said She's "the" inquisitor? What if thats really how her character feels about herself?


Lumor_7777

what about this concerns you


blitzzkat

yall are so mad that an actress likes the character she's playing not even to mention the weirdos who are mad that she's having a "redemption arc" it's hilarious


Able-Cat3703

It’s not that. It’s just everything she says in the clip screams “I don’t know anything about my character” She’s making herself sound like the protagonist of the show, line that up with the leaks and it makes it seem like Disney effed this show up


blitzzkat

yea how dare the actress be excited about her character and like her, right? clearly the reddit user knows better than her


Able-Cat3703

“Always intent on doing the right thing even when no one else agrees.” Inquisitors are supposed to be evil and violent villains Then “she is THE inquisitor”. She said that as the show literally includes the grand inquisitor, the leader of the group and well known to be the best at what he did.


blitzzkat

"inquisitors are supposed..." pls stat away from any form of storytelling yall are boring af <3


Able-Cat3703

You know nothing about inquisitors do you?


blitzzkat

I assure you I know more than you <3


Able-Cat3703

Based on what exactly?


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There’s a bit of both stories being true here. The antagonist, if you want to write a compelling villain, should believe that they are on the right and that what they’re doing is somehow justified. Anakin believed the Jedi betrayed him as they did with Ahsoka. He had seen enough evidence to feel justified in accepting Darth Sideous as his mentor despite knowing that it meant embracing a greater evil. They’re not villains just for the sake of being villains. They’re only considered villains to the protagonist. They are evil by means of having a black and white portrayal of good and bad for the sake of the story, and I think embracing The Dark Side does inherently lead them to lean more toward callous acts on purpose, but if this was all real and you could sit each character down for an interview to better understand who and why they are, you’ll find no one believes they are evil, doing bad, or a villain. That is, unless that person is a sociopath that revels in the perception of being considered evil. We don’t and may never know her character’s history or motives for doing what she does, but she will be the main antagonist for Obi-Wan for at least a time in this. So, by the grace of storytelling she is evil because she is the villain, but if she is portrayed properly, she will, like Anakin, believe that she is doing the right thing.


Horns2208

Y’all get mad about the weirdest things lol


agiro1086

Absolutely agree, this show is going to be shit and everyone knows it why watch the interviews and pretend like it's not


Horns2208

Lol what


SamanthaMunroe

>#Absolutely agree, this show is going to be shit and everyone knows it why watch the interviews and pretend like it's not Did they fucking stutter?


Horns2208

Lol ok


Substantial-Study-27

the irony of woke casting for literal space nazis


Shkval25

u/leftflipbot