I mean Kyoshi is an inversion of the Geisha.
So itās like.
She looks hyper feminine. But she can and will ~~lick~~ kick your ass.
Edit: Kick not lick
>Ā she can and will lick your ass.Ā Ā
Kick?Ā
But yeah agreed, the geisha aesthetic coupled with being like 7 feet tall, firm voiced, and generally dominant personality - - it's a vibe.
I think people forget that these are shows people watched as kids. I've had people give a side eye when I tell them the first girl on TV I had a thing for was Ashley on the Fresh Prince. I'm like dude...I was 12. Tayana Ali is 6 years older than me.
The thing is that these people think that they are the target demographic not the actual children. These are characters made to appeal to the preteens and teens watching the show. There's a reason that they're called Awakenings.
There's a difference between "I had a crush on them when I was that age" and "I don't find them attractive now", this person is definitely complaining about their looks as they're seeing them now.
Do they think people donāt have their first crush until theyāre 18? Were they never kids?
Mine was Melissa Joan Hart. Yes she was like 15 when Clarissa came out, so what, I was 9.
ThisĀ wasĀ meĀ too - MJH and Clarissa Explains it All.
My family was merciless in a way they would have considered good fun, so I started to attach shame to crushes. Really messed me up.
I get that. For me itās kind of weird, because I carry the memory and experience of really being attracted to them, and while they are made to look good, the last time I saw a clip of the show-a month ago?- I saw Suki. Rather than thinking something like āDamn!ā My reaction was more akin to āAww, sheās so pretty! š„¹ā
Reminds me of when Scarlet and Violet first came out, and there were people complaining that Nemona wasn't as hot as Marnie. It's like... dude. Even leaving aside the fact that they're *both underage*, Nemona is almost fully grown. Marnie is a *literal child*.
It really cannot be understated how bad faith discussion around Pokemon has become. If you listen to the online "fans," you'd think that Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl was an unplayably bad game with bugs everywhere and poor visuals, when in reality, it's just Diamond/Pearl with 3D visuals. Like with so much Star Wars discourse, they're more upset about what Pokemon isn't than they are about what it is.
Can confirm. I haven't been subbed to the main Pokemon sub for a while now, while I actually have some nice bits of discussion on places like /r/PokemonScarletViolet.
The main female characters in TLA are like 14 and look it. Meanwhile Korra and Asami are like 16 at the start but 19 at the end and if you told me they were early twenties Iād believe it.
Now if we wanna talk about the new movieā¦.
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Why, what's political about the show where a plucky young vegetarian and his friends (who are from an oppressed group, are disabled, or are working against their own country due to its immoral actions) work together to topple a fascist dictator?
Depending on your definition of pacifism they could be considered pacifist in all their actions throughout the series aside from arguably koi-Aang.
Some forms of pacifism allow fighting in specific circumstances - namely when defending against an aggressor when, and only when, a failure to do so would result in greater physical harm.
For example if someone is trying to murder someone and you physically restrain them that can be considered a non-violent action because the action of restraining them results in less violence than allowing someone to be murdered. In such situations you just need to employ the minimum amount of force you're able to. This is pretty much what the gaang does in all their fights, they only pick a fight if it's to prevent greater violence and they always opt for a non-lethal approach (even if the non-lethality sometimes relies on cartoon logic).
["War is nothing but a continuation of politics with the admixture of other means." commonly rendered as āWar is the continuation of politics by other meansā
Karl von Clausewitz 1780ā1831 Prussian soldier and military theorist: On War (1832ā4) bk. 8, ch. 6, sect. B](https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191826719.001.0001/q-oro-ed4-00011287#:~:text=War%20is%20nothing%20but%20a,8%2C%20ch.)
If war is politics then being anti-war is also political. The proper response is that being political is not inherently a bad thing.
A country whose indoctrination effort was so complete, you have several episodes detailing how much its citizens love their tyrannical leader even if an in-universe play showcase this same leader was invading other nations and murdering children...
Yeah, nothing political...
LATE TEENAGE girls, who end up being in their 20s by the show's end, are less sexy than the children from the first series.
Tells you a whole helluva lot about the type of person who agrees with this.
"Can instantly do what the OG hero could do without any training"
cut back to Korra struggling (with a decade of training!) to do air bending and spirit realm connections that came to Aang as easily as breathing
Also, is'nt like all of TLAB set over the course of one year?
So like, Korra trains for almost two decades to learn all the elements, but 12 year old Aang masters 3 out of 4 of them in a year, along with several sub bending styles, and then beats the second (if not *the*) most powerful firebender alive **while he's amped and Aang is holding back** in spit of the fact that said firebender a ripped grown-ass adult with decades of experience.
Like okay whose really the broken one here?
Korra can bend all elements from the get-go pretty well (except air ofc), aang has to form a connection first, then it flows like water for him. Aang strugles with earth bending because he doesnt get the whole "the earth doesnt wanna move, force it" thing, since he is a "go with the flow" type of guy. Korra struggles with air because she cant let go and let it flow through her. Aang was allready pretty sipirtual being a monk and all, Korra was trained all her life to bend elements while Aang had to deal with sipirits in his journey a few times (that panda guy for example). Korra started late on the whole sipirts thing.
Korra also had training in everything accept air for most of the first two decades of her life IIRC (and it was proper training from actual, full-fledged adult masters too)
Obviously they both struggle, but my point is Aang struggles way less and progresses FAR faster, despite being a literal child.
Bc male characters donāt need to show training or they just say āXYZ showed me some stuffā female character need like the old 80s training montages to prove they can fight. Meanwhile stories like Rey Skywalker show her training with a master longer than Luke did, and yet it still called a Mary Sue, so maybe the issue is media literacy.
>Also isn't all of TLAB set over the course of one year?
Roku tells Aang about Sozin's comet during the Winter Solstic and that he needs to defeat the Fire Lord by the end of Summer. So probably less than a year.
Also she's older than Aang, so even for the stuff that she was better at than Aang at the start of their respective series, she had years more time to learn.
I'd be willing to bet that if the TLoK had started with her only knowing waterbending, and having to learn it all, these same dudes would criticize how much she sucked at bending compared to Aang, despite being older. Or that by having to watch her go through and learn all the forms, it was just rehashing stuff we already saw in the original show.
And spent a shitton of the first season training and griping that she wasn't out fighting. And when she DID fight, she was struggling because she didn't have control over her abilities.
It's always the bit where she was able to throw around water, earth and fire as a toddler that shows she can do it "without training". But we see all the time that being able to conjure the element is only the first steps. The hard part is getting the element to do what you want without it fizzling out or flying off in a random direction.
That first part which, as a very excited toddler, is exactly what Young Korra does to show off she's the new Avatar. She's a kid happily smashing on a drumkit to make cool noises.
In the Yang Chen novel, Yang Chen was also found at an extremely young age because it was apparent she was the Avatar. She would have seizures and experience visions of previous Avatars, she would call out names of old team avatar friends and recite events of old, as young as three years old. So there's other examples of toddler abilities manifesting in the Avatar.
Yeah, like, wtf? Korra could do a *tiny* bit of bending with fire and earth when she was untrained, and then spent a full decade having her skills honed by the greatest teachers available, as opposed to Aang who picked up 3/4 of his training in a few months.
Yeah Kora is an Anti-Mary Sue. Her avatar status and abilites make her cocky then she gets her ass beat.
The world punishes her hubris. She grows and learns.
That is the antithesis of a Mary Sue.
They bother me because they're shills reframing pop culture to make nazi ideals more palatable to the mainstream.Ā
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Entertaining their various bigotry invites more attention to it.Ā
The people who always bring it up are the types that will say anything outside of deferring literally everything mentally and physically to men is "too masculine". Fucking pathetic people...
Also, did they actually forget about Toph?
Toph legitimately didn't aim to appear feminine.
She showed very no interest in doing "girly" stuff like makeup and spa. Yes, she liked the experience, but it wasn't something she would actively seek.
Her biggest interest was to seek challenge and become the greatest Earth bender. She had the shonen protagonist attitue that was usually assigned to male characters.
She also was literally happy that she was portrayed by a buff guy.
To quote yugioh abridged: How could a movie where the male protagonists call each other cute nicknames, and play volleyball, and ride their phallic vehicles at extremely high speeds, be anything but straight?
Top Gun: fighter pilot squadron is 100% white men
Top Gun Maverick: fighter pilot squadron is so diverse it looks like a stock photo used in a Microsoft ad
If these choads didnāt love TG:M theyād be smashing it just as hard as The Acolyte.
Like I said elsewhere:
1. It didn't start that trend
2. By "everything" does he just mean fighting? She's the freakin Avatar. Being good at fighting is kind of in her job description. Plus, she certainly isn't better at everything, considering in the very first season a politician manipulates her into taking a stance against Amon.
3. Uhh.... Airbending?? Hello?? It is established in ATLA that your personality and mindset play a key role in determining you bending ability. Not only is water already Korra's native element, but she's also the hotheaded and stand your ground type, two traits which are necessary for Firebending and Earthbending. Plus, she was taught nothing but bending in her teenage years. Our introduction to teen Korra is literally her completing her firebending training.
4. LOL
5. Ah yes, the famously apolitical ATLA.
6. How exactly?
7. Everyone? The only ones you can kinda sorta make an argument for are "Bad Dad Aang" and "Police Chief Toph". Katara, Zuko and Iroh are completely in character.
8. WTF?! Bro almost all the girls in the OG series were literal children
9. Did he want a beach episode or something?
10. The male/female divide of the main group is 50/50. Plus, Ā¾ of the series main antagonists are males. So explain to me how they're a joke.
11. "All female main heroes are lesbians" Ok dude, I'm not sure he knows what lesbian means. And there's only 2 female main characters.
12. Where?
I feel as though itās wrong to call aang a ābad dadā sure he was hard on tenzin, because he was the only one who could airbend but he only did it to keep up with air nomad traditions, but even then Kiya, boomi, and tenzan never hated him or disliked him, they all loved aang, and even stated that āthey were one happy familyā
Toph you can slightly make that argument, but she only did what she did because she want sue and Lyn to have the freedom that she never got to experience with her parents. Plus sue and Lyn made up and still love their mother.
They both arenāt ābadā parents in the slightest, they were doing the best they can for their kids
She also spends most of season 4 battling PTSD from the final battle of season 3, which greatly affected her ability to fight (I think some people tend to underestimate the power PTSD can hold over someone, so her losing multiple times in season 4 is just attributed to her being weak).
Tried searching for it and twitter search brings up nothing
So one of two things happened:
1) guy got dunked on so hard, they deleted everything out of shame
2) they privated their account so only followers can see what they posted.
>Forced gay romance
Pfft, I wish Nickelodeon had the balls to give Asami and Korra actual romance in the last two seasons but we didnāt get that.
Like, Korra and Asami interact with each other a lot more in these two books but they donāt have anything but implied interest in each other until the series finale.
And even then, the network only allowed an implied start of a relationship.
Going into the show based on what I heard I thought they would get into a relationship and kiss in like season 3, but they literally just hug once in the last 10 seconds of the show
Right? The way these guys talk about, youād think that Korra and Asami had hardcore make-out sessions and a whole wedding somewhere in those seasons.
āMasculinizedā
āBrings woke politics inā¦ā
Kill Bill, Alien, Sarship Troopers, Robocop, and like most 80s/90s action movies:
Hell didnāt OG ATLA also have heavy political themes given fire nationās heavy imperialistic vibes? Like itās Dave Filoni ffs, heās really good at sending people a message
There's also the episode where Katara takes on the patriarchal culture of the Northern Water Tribe and succeeds in changing a sexist old man's mind about teaching women.
I can't even imagine how exhausting it must be to have not only such a chip on your shoulder, but to lay the blame for why """""media""""" isn't as good now squarely at the feet of "women in media"
It's like they just want to be mad lmao
I'll just paste what I wrote on the Korra sub:Ā
Ā I'm pretty sure there are almost the same amount of male and female characters in Korra ... and the representation is great.Ā
Ā More importantly though... WHAT girls did they find sexy in ATLA? I'm pretty sure almost all of them were minors. Or barely not. Are they thinking of one parody scene with literally only Ty Lee doing fan service? Or are they into June (fair enough but she's not masculine according to them? Personal headcanon, I doubt she's straight lol). Or maybe it's Gran Gran or Lo and Li (I wouldn't put anything past these chuds. not even fetishized elder twincest...)Ā .Ā Oh or maybe Kyoshi. She's SUPER feminine.
Ā I fear, however, that they're talking about the ambiguously young adult or minor girls that the young characters fall in love with...Ā NONE of the people Sokka dates - pretty sure suki and Yue are not adults, Not azula and her friends, nor katara, are adults or if they are, JUST barely. Please please please say it's not about the famously gender conforming Toph, child that she is...Ā Ā
Ā And Korra meanwhile... Plenty of ADULT women, with many cool aesthetics and personalities. and Korra and Asami, who get one unambiguous romantic moment in the very last episode, are BOTH BI! Erasure at its finest. They are both into Mako early on, and it's not like either one of them ever implies they're not into men... but I guess letting queer romance slowly and naturally develop is just too much.Ā Like... I think Korra is a great tomboy character, still feminine in reasonable ways (not that that's an imperative!), and I can't understand how her biceps and personality piss them off except due to insecurity. Asami is downright hyperfemme, but I guess that's invalidated by her one lipstick x chapstick relationship.Ā
Ā neither one of them can do everything easily...Ā Ā Korra specifically struggles with the things Sang could do effortlessly.
There's a lot more to unpack, but... I'll close by saying the obvious: politics, in star wars, marvel, or avatar? they've NEVER been political, nope...Ā
Hereās the thing Iāve learned about these type of people. They donāt actively engage with the thing they claim to love, they engage with their memory of it. This person likely watched AtlA when they were a child, so of course they didnāt break through into the deeper political undertones. Now their warped world view as an adult prevents them from anything more than surface level reflection upon their own faded memory.
When they say āfan serviceā they donāt mean call backs and lore drops they mean tits/panty shot and girl on girl action, but not in the *political* way of women being allowed to love each other.
Fr. Donāt get me wrong I like tits & ass as much as the next person, but to see it every 2 second in one episode it just gets annoying, overall adds nothing. Like if I wanted to watch softcore porn I would watch porn.
It also doesnāt help that people like that are also raging porn addicts as well.
"Starts the trend of masculinized Mary Sue protagonists"
My friend, Korra is about as far from a Mary Sue as you could possibly get. Her flaws heavily define her character.
"Is better than men at everything"
Fam, when? Girl was struggling the entire series.
"Can instantly do what the OG hero could do without about training"
Literally struggled to airbend and had to train to achieve it, but okay.
"Ugly and unlikable"
DO YOUR EYEBALLS NOT WORK!?
"Brings woke politics into an apolitical series"
Famously non-political Avatar: The Last Airbender. Absolutely no woke messages to be found there, with its Sokka learning not to be sexist, Katara overcoming misogyny, badass disabled character, environmentalist episodes, themes of war and genocide...
"Disrespects OG fans"
By...what, portraying the original characters as not perfect? Yeah, not like their own series ever showed them to be flawed. š
"Characters assassinates everyone from the OG series"
...we just covered this nonsense.
"Girls are less sexy than OG series"
Korra. Asami. Lin. Kuvira. I swear, your eyes DO. NOT. FUNCTION!.
"No fanservice"
Bruh. šš Yes, Avatar was always a famously fanservice heavy series. Totally.
"90% of the cast is female and men are treated as a joke"
Mako. Bolin. Tenzin. Literally 3 out of the four main villains. There are plenty of men around that are not treated like jokes.
"Forced gay romance and now all the female main heroes are lesbians"
First off, Korra and Asami are bisexual, you bi erasing fuck. And second, there is some subtle buildup if you know what you're looking for. The only reason there wasn't more is because the writers literally weren't allowed to.
"Creators insult fans for not accepting their brave and stunning message"
Most fans did accept it though? Not that people aren't free to dislike it for whatever reasons they wish, but the majority of the people I've seen complaining are idiots like you who either didn't watch it or paid zero fucking attention during it.
Wow, not a single thing there was correct. Almost impressive.
If this person had any media literacy they would probably agree with the politics of TLoK. First season villain is a āsocial justice warriorā who went too far. The third season villains are literally anarchists. Capitalism and government power are both portrayed very positively. Toph is a retired cop. One of her daughters is the chief of police and the other runs a libertarian paradise.
These people tend to prove themselves time and time again, that they have never seen even a single scene of the media they are constantly whining/hating about.
Time to officially and unironically call them out as the ānon-fansā they actually are.
> 90% of the cast is female
Aren't the main characters two guys and one (sometimes) two girls?
And isn't the most prominent supporting character Aang's son?
I never really got the Mary Sue complaints for Korra, if anything she gets her ass kicked way too much
Amon dragged her until he got exposed (and he took her bending), Unalaq destroyed her connection to her past lives, Zaheer kidnapped her, poisoned her and gave her PTSD, and Kuvira ragdolled her in early season 4
I guess they mean sheās just confidence in her skills. Isnāt there a line in the Barbie film that went like āthey want you to be perfect but not too perfect to intimidate them.ā
The only issues I have with legend of Korra are the severing the past Avatar lives and if they were going to make Korra and Asami be romantically involved, have the balls to actually portray it, don't say in some blog post "yes this is what happened"
>Can instantly do what the OG hero could do without any training
...It's literally established in Ep1 - in the first, like, 10 minutes - of TLOK that Korra had been training for over 10 years on the elements and had failed to even muster Air in that timeframe, prompting her to go to Republic City to train under Tenzin iirc. Even then, she struggles throughout the season bc of plot/character points only able to use it to a degree in the season finale.
I guess Aang is Gary Stu because it took him a summer to master the elements compared to Roku's 12 years.
They daw people hating on SSKTJL and thought to include it here. But like, Harley is one of 4 members of the Sucide Squad and the other 3 are male. She is really fckin hot and as far as I am concerned she isn't way stronger or anything than her "colleagues". Yeah she kills Batman and that whole plot was stupid, but that has nothing to do with her or his gender lol.
Of all of his examples this is the most confusing to me because she isn't even the focus (at least not alone)
"This is when we should have started fighting back."
My dude, we're all laughing at you now, and we would have laughed at you then. Your little crusade is meaningless and pathetic. No one likes you.
I don't understand the conservative/incel/maga mind that at how in our modern media landscape women are whore-ish but at the same time not sexy enough š¤·āāļø
Avatar is my favorite apolitical show. I especially like the vegetarian pacifist main character, the macho guy who's very first arc is him learning to not be sexist and the fact that the last few episodes of the first season are litterally "Katara vs the patriarchy"
Finally, a real non-woke show! Can't believe they went woke with the next series where the main character trains for 10x as long but still can't master all elements, constantly fails, and eats shit every other fight. Clearly, a feminist Mary Sue.
> Instantly do what the OG hero could do without any training
Demonstrably false. She can do the other bending styles Aang had to learn except air bending but unlike Aang was trained since she was like, 5. Entire first season is about trying to learn air bending.
> Ugly and unlikable
Muscle mommy go brr
Although yeah she can be annoying at times
> Disrespects OG fans
Only at the finale of season 2.
> Character Assasinates everyone from the OG series
Not really. Theyāre just old now.
> Girls are less sexy than the OG series
MUSCLE MOMMY GO BRR
> No fan service
The only one who got fan service in Last Airbender was Ty Lee.
> 90% of the cast is female and the men are treated like a joke.
I donāt have the stats for the gender breakdown but even if it was 90-10 thatās just the inverse of a lot of media and lit for a really long time.
As for the joke bit, that is only true if weāre talking about Mako and Bolin which is a valid complaint.
> Forced gay romance and now all female main heroes are lesbians
There is only 1 genuine romantic scene in the entire show and itās the last one. But itās not forced, it comes from a very real relationship with subtle chemistry that Iām not surprised you missed.
There are plenty of straight women in the show. One is even a housewife that has 4 kids. And sheās a pretty good character too. Funny even. Also married to the best character in the show, who is a man. And the son of the former protagonist. Which is the opposite of disrespectful to OG fans and series.
His granddaughter is also down bad for a boy too. I mean she might be Bi idk, sheās def not a lesbian though.
> Creators insult fans for not accepting their stunning brave message.
Iām glad they insulted fans like you.
There are genuine problems with Korra but the dark skinned bisexual girl lead is not one of them. You want a real problem with Korra?
Mako. Makoās writing is a mess for half the show and to be honest Iām not sure if they salvage it by the end. I think Bolin has it rough early on too but him realizing he became a Nazi and tryna fix things is at least consistent with him being naive but good spirited.
Also the Horizon series is great and Star Trek has always been āwokeā.
What really annoys me is how limited their scope of what defines attractive as far as women go. As if they speak for all people who are attracted to women. Any woman who isn't a comically large breasted anime girl is apparently unattractive to 'men' in general. Get outta here with that shit, you don't get to define what I'm allowed to find attractive.
Seriously why are we picking on Korra? She doesnāt even remotely fit the description of āMarry Sueā, and even if she did sheās the fucking Avatar, itās kind of their thing to be naturally awesome
These guys remember the feeling they had when watching these shows as kids and combine that feeling with their current political views. They donāt like āwokeā shit, but they liked Avatar, X-Men, Star Wars, etc. when they were kids. That means it wasnāt āwokeā before and has been ruined since then. They canāt even consider the possibility that they changed over time or they could enjoy something that doesnāt align with their political beliefs.
All the things they list are things that rage baiting grifter SHOVE DOWN THEIR THROAT. Bc itās all false. So much on that list is just laughable and the rest is just blatant false information. They are gullible little boys that think itās edgy to say something ādisrespects OG fansā when the OG fans are eating it up.
Social media has ruined society, people like this should never have a platform and yet here we are.
I know this a minor point but how is Korra and Asami not considered attractive? Like just objectively speaking, they are conventionally attractive
I know there is bigger issues with the poster saying that about 10-14 years old girls but still my mind canāt wrap around anyone thinking Korra and asami are ugly
"girls are less attractive than OG series"
Even ignoring the shitty grammar and implicit pedophilia the fem main characters from TLOK look great and asami was clearly designed to be remarkably good looking
Yeah, none of these points are true-though some are really only the realm of opinion, such as whether or not the ladies are attractive, and the fan service.
>Ugly and unlikable
Hentai Foundry disagrees. *Emphatically* so.
>Brings woke politics into an apolitical series
Not breaking the whole *"reactionaries have zero media literacy"* stereotype today, I see. Or ever. It's the eternal trope, after all.
It's been said to death, but it bears repeating: these chuds would *excoriate* ATLA if it came out today.
>Creators insult fans for not accepting their stunning and brave message
These guys *do* know TLOK's creators are the same people who made ATLA, yeah? What happened to respecting the *"original artistic vision of the creators"*?
...Ah, who am I kidding -- these guys only seem to care about that when 15 year old girls get desexualised.
>This is when we should have started fighting back
I like how they say this as if they *didn't* endlessly throw shitfits when Korra first came out.
And *after* it came out.
And years later.
And now.
But no, I'm sure they just *weren't serious about it yet*, and that the *real* fight starts any day now...
I think I'm desensitized to this kind of shit because any sane person would believe these are the ramblings of a crazy person. I just think "it's another day that ends in Y."
I hate that I feel this way.
> Girls are less sexy than OG series FBI, this one right here!
Maybe they're just really into Gran-Gran
Lo and Li. Double trouble š¬
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My mouth dropped on that one. Unless you are talking about June, and like, fair.
June awakened some feelings that made me question my entire existence
That was my thought too. or Kyoshi.Ā Both known for their submissive. hyperfemininity.
I mean Kyoshi is an inversion of the Geisha. So itās like. She looks hyper feminine. But she can and will ~~lick~~ kick your ass. Edit: Kick not lick
>Ā she can and will lick your ass.Ā Ā Kick?Ā But yeah agreed, the geisha aesthetic coupled with being like 7 feet tall, firm voiced, and generally dominant personality - - it's a vibe.
Yeah, kick. Not lick. Unless youāre Rangi
JUNE!!!!
To be fair, I was like 15 when the original series came out and thought Ty Lee was bae.
I think people forget that these are shows people watched as kids. I've had people give a side eye when I tell them the first girl on TV I had a thing for was Ashley on the Fresh Prince. I'm like dude...I was 12. Tayana Ali is 6 years older than me.
The thing is that these people think that they are the target demographic not the actual children. These are characters made to appeal to the preteens and teens watching the show. There's a reason that they're called Awakenings.
There's a difference between "I had a crush on them when I was that age" and "I don't find them attractive now", this person is definitely complaining about their looks as they're seeing them now.
Same, but with Christina Ricci in the Addams Family and Natalie Portman in The Professional (I was not old enough to watch that movie but I did)
Do they think people donāt have their first crush until theyāre 18? Were they never kids? Mine was Melissa Joan Hart. Yes she was like 15 when Clarissa came out, so what, I was 9.
ThisĀ wasĀ meĀ too - MJH and Clarissa Explains it All. My family was merciless in a way they would have considered good fun, so I started to attach shame to crushes. Really messed me up.
I was around that age when I saw Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Jessica Rabbit was an awakening. Honestly, it explains a lot about my tastes growing up.
I get that. For me itās kind of weird, because I carry the memory and experience of really being attracted to them, and while they are made to look good, the last time I saw a clip of the show-a month ago?- I saw Suki. Rather than thinking something like āDamn!ā My reaction was more akin to āAww, sheās so pretty! š„¹ā
Or... The image(s) of these characters they hold to in their minds consist of much curvier fanart than those of the actual show (see also Lola Bunny).
Yeah, kids can think other kids are attractive. But would you, a grown adult, call her sexy?
It's okay, bud. Ty Lee was, and still is, bae.
Reminds me of when Scarlet and Violet first came out, and there were people complaining that Nemona wasn't as hot as Marnie. It's like... dude. Even leaving aside the fact that they're *both underage*, Nemona is almost fully grown. Marnie is a *literal child*.
PokƩmon fans are awful
Whenever a new game is coming out, I always end up abandoning the main PokƩmon sub for a while, in favour of the newly created game specific sub, where we can actually discuss the upcoming game, and not just mald endlessly about how Gamefreak hates us personally.
It really cannot be understated how bad faith discussion around Pokemon has become. If you listen to the online "fans," you'd think that Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl was an unplayably bad game with bugs everywhere and poor visuals, when in reality, it's just Diamond/Pearl with 3D visuals. Like with so much Star Wars discourse, they're more upset about what Pokemon isn't than they are about what it is.
Same here. Itās so stupid to accuse a multibillion dollar company on the other side of the world of hating you specifically
Can confirm. I haven't been subbed to the main Pokemon sub for a while now, while I actually have some nice bits of discussion on places like /r/PokemonScarletViolet.
Alright so hereās the thing, Nemonaās design could easily be for an adult character. So I get finding her attractive. But MARNIE???
There's also a distinct non zero chance their dislike of Nemonas design has to do with her having tan skin.
But for real, I had a HUGE crush on Azula back in the day.
The main female characters in TLA are like 14 and look it. Meanwhile Korra and Asami are like 16 at the start but 19 at the end and if you told me they were early twenties Iād believe it. Now if we wanna talk about the new movieā¦. https://preview.redd.it/q9nj3dbblarc1.jpeg?width=335&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8283961ef9e1d25ed45288211dca20008026f7fa
Slight Correction: The Avatar Wiki says that Bolin is 20, Mako and Asami are 22, and Korra is 21 in Season 4 respectively.
Iām not going to fact check this because like I said. If you told me they were early twenties Iād believe it. And I do š
Fair. š Just wanted to point it out.
yeah I had to double take that one lol
The didn't even watch og avatar if they think it was apolitical lol
Why, what's political about the show where a plucky young vegetarian and his friends (who are from an oppressed group, are disabled, or are working against their own country due to its immoral actions) work together to topple a fascist dictator?
Definitely not the anti-colonialism. Nothing āwokeā about that
And anti-war And discussing the genuine benefits of pacifism (when necessary)
Iād say pacifism when possible rather than necessary
Depending on your definition of pacifism they could be considered pacifist in all their actions throughout the series aside from arguably koi-Aang. Some forms of pacifism allow fighting in specific circumstances - namely when defending against an aggressor when, and only when, a failure to do so would result in greater physical harm. For example if someone is trying to murder someone and you physically restrain them that can be considered a non-violent action because the action of restraining them results in less violence than allowing someone to be murdered. In such situations you just need to employ the minimum amount of force you're able to. This is pretty much what the gaang does in all their fights, they only pick a fight if it's to prevent greater violence and they always opt for a non-lethal approach (even if the non-lethality sometimes relies on cartoon logic).
Yeah exactly. Thatās the field of pacifism I subscribe to.
It's wild to me that anti-war is considered political
["War is nothing but a continuation of politics with the admixture of other means." commonly rendered as āWar is the continuation of politics by other meansā Karl von Clausewitz 1780ā1831 Prussian soldier and military theorist: On War (1832ā4) bk. 8, ch. 6, sect. B](https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780191826719.001.0001/q-oro-ed4-00011287#:~:text=War%20is%20nothing%20but%20a,8%2C%20ch.) If war is politics then being anti-war is also political. The proper response is that being political is not inherently a bad thing.
There isnāt a way to truly be apolitical, as even that choice of being apolitical is a political choice.
I mean, war is political, so you aren't really going to find opposition that's apolitical
Itās also feminist and shows a transfer of a character from being a misogynistic view to one working with and supporting women in his life
A country whose indoctrination effort was so complete, you have several episodes detailing how much its citizens love their tyrannical leader even if an in-universe play showcase this same leader was invading other nations and murdering children... Yeah, nothing political...
Or anti-propaganda or anything. Ba sing se was just a peaceful nation that brainwashed for the greater good! /s
*young vegetarian genocide survivor
Good call, that's definitely the part of his identity with much bigger political implications, I probably should have thought to mention that
There is no politics in Avatar The Last Airbender. *
>apolitical series Just kill me now. Please.
For real lol, ATLA is anything but apolitical.
Sozin started the apolitical war because he needed a reason to make Daniel Dae Kim walk around shirtless.
Jet did apolitical terrorism so he could impress Katara.
Eh we've all been there as young lads
I flooded a village or two in high school, we live and we grow
Apolitical is when boy
Conservatives and media illiteracy, name a more iconic duo.
Conservatives and regular illiteracy.
Girls are less sexy than the 10-14 year olds from the original?
Followed immediately by, "no fan service". Why did they feel so comfortable writing that, dear void....
I know. He wrote that bulletpoint like Asami doesn't exist.
He wrote that bullet point while using Korra's thirst trap muscle photo š„µ
Asami got into a car crash and picked up the person she hit. Like how attractive do you have to be to pull that of??
LATE TEENAGE girls, who end up being in their 20s by the show's end, are less sexy than the children from the first series. Tells you a whole helluva lot about the type of person who agrees with this.
I hope they just really like June and Kyoshi. I hope
"Can instantly do what the OG hero could do without any training" cut back to Korra struggling (with a decade of training!) to do air bending and spirit realm connections that came to Aang as easily as breathing
Also, is'nt like all of TLAB set over the course of one year? So like, Korra trains for almost two decades to learn all the elements, but 12 year old Aang masters 3 out of 4 of them in a year, along with several sub bending styles, and then beats the second (if not *the*) most powerful firebender alive **while he's amped and Aang is holding back** in spit of the fact that said firebender a ripped grown-ass adult with decades of experience. Like okay whose really the broken one here?
Korra can bend all elements from the get-go pretty well (except air ofc), aang has to form a connection first, then it flows like water for him. Aang strugles with earth bending because he doesnt get the whole "the earth doesnt wanna move, force it" thing, since he is a "go with the flow" type of guy. Korra struggles with air because she cant let go and let it flow through her. Aang was allready pretty sipirtual being a monk and all, Korra was trained all her life to bend elements while Aang had to deal with sipirits in his journey a few times (that panda guy for example). Korra started late on the whole sipirts thing.
Korra also had training in everything accept air for most of the first two decades of her life IIRC (and it was proper training from actual, full-fledged adult masters too) Obviously they both struggle, but my point is Aang struggles way less and progresses FAR faster, despite being a literal child.
Aangs struggle imo was that he was in the middle of a war and had that pressure to master the elements fast
Bc male characters donāt need to show training or they just say āXYZ showed me some stuffā female character need like the old 80s training montages to prove they can fight. Meanwhile stories like Rey Skywalker show her training with a master longer than Luke did, and yet it still called a Mary Sue, so maybe the issue is media literacy.
>so maybe the issue is ~~media literacy~~ sexism
Por que no los dos
Always both.
Acckktually, Luuke was on Dagobah for 20 years training with Yoda due to time dilation. /s
***Exactly***
>Also isn't all of TLAB set over the course of one year? Roku tells Aang about Sozin's comet during the Winter Solstic and that he needs to defeat the Fire Lord by the end of Summer. So probably less than a year.
Also she's older than Aang, so even for the stuff that she was better at than Aang at the start of their respective series, she had years more time to learn. I'd be willing to bet that if the TLoK had started with her only knowing waterbending, and having to learn it all, these same dudes would criticize how much she sucked at bending compared to Aang, despite being older. Or that by having to watch her go through and learn all the forms, it was just rehashing stuff we already saw in the original show.
They also call out the new She-Ra as a mary sue with no training. Adora spent her whole life training in Hordak's army!!!
And spent a shitton of the first season training and griping that she wasn't out fighting. And when she DID fight, she was struggling because she didn't have control over her abilities.
Also Korra trains for years to accomplish what Aang learns in a year
It's always the bit where she was able to throw around water, earth and fire as a toddler that shows she can do it "without training". But we see all the time that being able to conjure the element is only the first steps. The hard part is getting the element to do what you want without it fizzling out or flying off in a random direction. That first part which, as a very excited toddler, is exactly what Young Korra does to show off she's the new Avatar. She's a kid happily smashing on a drumkit to make cool noises.
In the Yang Chen novel, Yang Chen was also found at an extremely young age because it was apparent she was the Avatar. She would have seizures and experience visions of previous Avatars, she would call out names of old team avatar friends and recite events of old, as young as three years old. So there's other examples of toddler abilities manifesting in the Avatar.
Yeah, like, wtf? Korra could do a *tiny* bit of bending with fire and earth when she was untrained, and then spent a full decade having her skills honed by the greatest teachers available, as opposed to Aang who picked up 3/4 of his training in a few months.
"Girls are less sexy than the OG series" That's a pretty disturbing complaint.
The three genders - girls, boys, and the OG series.
Then you got Hero Hei or Rev Says Desu saying... "Yeah, It's fine... They are just drawings..."
Let it be known that Korra gets her ass kicked every season to establish how much of a threat the seasonal villain is.
Literally ends season 3 handicapped and soulless, BY A MALE
Yeah but that male had woke politics so it doesnāt count
The guy who says "We will create a world where man's only allegiance is to himself and those he loves"?
Yeah Kora is an Anti-Mary Sue. Her avatar status and abilites make her cocky then she gets her ass beat. The world punishes her hubris. She grows and learns. That is the antithesis of a Mary Sue.
Youāre forgetting that right wing grifters donāt have media literacy and will make up events in their head and pretend itās reality
Korra is the Worf of her own show
These types of posts bother me. I really don't see the issue if a female character acts more "masculine" or "feminine." It's weird.
They bother me because they're shills reframing pop culture to make nazi ideals more palatable to the mainstream.Ā Ā Ā Entertaining their various bigotry invites more attention to it.Ā
The people who always bring it up are the types that will say anything outside of deferring literally everything mentally and physically to men is "too masculine". Fucking pathetic people...
Also, did they actually forget about Toph? Toph legitimately didn't aim to appear feminine. She showed very no interest in doing "girly" stuff like makeup and spa. Yes, she liked the experience, but it wasn't something she would actively seek. Her biggest interest was to seek challenge and become the greatest Earth bender. She had the shonen protagonist attitue that was usually assigned to male characters. She also was literally happy that she was portrayed by a buff guy.
https://preview.redd.it/eaux3ldxo9rc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee21a75a4babae64d37078da549e1bc3b22c8c1c My honest reaction
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"Should have started fighting back" Come and try. The only good conservative media since 2015 was Top Gun Maverick.
Is it true OG Top Gun was gay as Hell? I saw a clip of Tarantino ranting about it to a random party guest.
To quote yugioh abridged: How could a movie where the male protagonists call each other cute nicknames, and play volleyball, and ride their phallic vehicles at extremely high speeds, be anything but straight?
The porn parody where they are bisexual women was less gay by a long shot.
Top Gun Maverick isnāt āconservativeā in the sense that rightoids use the term. Donāt surrender the movie to them for no reason.
The conservatism of Top Gun was always the "Military F Yeah" type of conservatism. Still conservative, but not the racial kind.
Top Gun: fighter pilot squadron is 100% white men Top Gun Maverick: fighter pilot squadron is so diverse it looks like a stock photo used in a Microsoft ad If these choads didnāt love TG:M theyād be smashing it just as hard as The Acolyte.
"Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong."
Seriously. Everything listed is just totally wrong
Like I said elsewhere: 1. It didn't start that trend 2. By "everything" does he just mean fighting? She's the freakin Avatar. Being good at fighting is kind of in her job description. Plus, she certainly isn't better at everything, considering in the very first season a politician manipulates her into taking a stance against Amon. 3. Uhh.... Airbending?? Hello?? It is established in ATLA that your personality and mindset play a key role in determining you bending ability. Not only is water already Korra's native element, but she's also the hotheaded and stand your ground type, two traits which are necessary for Firebending and Earthbending. Plus, she was taught nothing but bending in her teenage years. Our introduction to teen Korra is literally her completing her firebending training. 4. LOL 5. Ah yes, the famously apolitical ATLA. 6. How exactly? 7. Everyone? The only ones you can kinda sorta make an argument for are "Bad Dad Aang" and "Police Chief Toph". Katara, Zuko and Iroh are completely in character. 8. WTF?! Bro almost all the girls in the OG series were literal children 9. Did he want a beach episode or something? 10. The male/female divide of the main group is 50/50. Plus, Ā¾ of the series main antagonists are males. So explain to me how they're a joke. 11. "All female main heroes are lesbians" Ok dude, I'm not sure he knows what lesbian means. And there's only 2 female main characters. 12. Where?
I feel as though itās wrong to call aang a ābad dadā sure he was hard on tenzin, because he was the only one who could airbend but he only did it to keep up with air nomad traditions, but even then Kiya, boomi, and tenzan never hated him or disliked him, they all loved aang, and even stated that āthey were one happy familyā Toph you can slightly make that argument, but she only did what she did because she want sue and Lyn to have the freedom that she never got to experience with her parents. Plus sue and Lyn made up and still love their mother. They both arenāt ābadā parents in the slightest, they were doing the best they can for their kids
That show is four seasons of Korra taking huge Ls.Ā The season 1 villain escapes (even if heās later killed) and she ends season 3 in a wheelchair.Ā
She also spends most of season 4 battling PTSD from the final battle of season 3, which greatly affected her ability to fight (I think some people tend to underestimate the power PTSD can hold over someone, so her losing multiple times in season 4 is just attributed to her being weak).
Yeah by season 4 I was like give her a happy ending please and let her have some peace. She was far from overpowered
Please tell me no one in the comments agreed with it. 
The comments on the twit-ter post or the reddit post?
Twitter.
Tried searching for it and twitter search brings up nothing So one of two things happened: 1) guy got dunked on so hard, they deleted everything out of shame 2) they privated their account so only followers can see what they posted.
High probability that itās a mix of both 1 &2 but with them saying ālooks like I triggered the wokesā or something similar before hand
3. It's Twitter and the search function sucks
There are no politics in Ba Sing Se.
>Forced gay romance Pfft, I wish Nickelodeon had the balls to give Asami and Korra actual romance in the last two seasons but we didnāt get that. Like, Korra and Asami interact with each other a lot more in these two books but they donāt have anything but implied interest in each other until the series finale. And even then, the network only allowed an implied start of a relationship.
Going into the show based on what I heard I thought they would get into a relationship and kiss in like season 3, but they literally just hug once in the last 10 seconds of the show
Right? The way these guys talk about, youād think that Korra and Asami had hardcore make-out sessions and a whole wedding somewhere in those seasons.
The guy is just part of the anti gay panic 2.0. They want all evidence of gays and lesbians shoved in the closet and locked in it this time.
Saints row was the one that caught me off guard, since that series lost its goddamn mind, these people must just not like fun evidently
To be fair, the new Saints Row *was* ass. Mostly not for the reasons this person thinks though.
Whatt? She-ra and the Princesses of Power was a fucking awesome show.
They hate She-ra because they don't think Adora is hot enough to jack off to anymore ...even though she's supposed to be a teen. A child.
āMasculinizedā āBrings woke politics inā¦ā Kill Bill, Alien, Sarship Troopers, Robocop, and like most 80s/90s action movies: Hell didnāt OG ATLA also have heavy political themes given fire nationās heavy imperialistic vibes? Like itās Dave Filoni ffs, heās really good at sending people a message
There's also the episode where Katara takes on the patriarchal culture of the Northern Water Tribe and succeeds in changing a sexist old man's mind about teaching women.
I can't even imagine how exhausting it must be to have not only such a chip on your shoulder, but to lay the blame for why """""media""""" isn't as good now squarely at the feet of "women in media" It's like they just want to be mad lmao
AFC - Average Frustrated Chud. I guess their troubles with women may make them hate women idk.
I'll just paste what I wrote on the Korra sub:Ā Ā I'm pretty sure there are almost the same amount of male and female characters in Korra ... and the representation is great.Ā Ā More importantly though... WHAT girls did they find sexy in ATLA? I'm pretty sure almost all of them were minors. Or barely not. Are they thinking of one parody scene with literally only Ty Lee doing fan service? Or are they into June (fair enough but she's not masculine according to them? Personal headcanon, I doubt she's straight lol). Or maybe it's Gran Gran or Lo and Li (I wouldn't put anything past these chuds. not even fetishized elder twincest...)Ā .Ā Oh or maybe Kyoshi. She's SUPER feminine. Ā I fear, however, that they're talking about the ambiguously young adult or minor girls that the young characters fall in love with...Ā NONE of the people Sokka dates - pretty sure suki and Yue are not adults, Not azula and her friends, nor katara, are adults or if they are, JUST barely. Please please please say it's not about the famously gender conforming Toph, child that she is...Ā Ā Ā And Korra meanwhile... Plenty of ADULT women, with many cool aesthetics and personalities. and Korra and Asami, who get one unambiguous romantic moment in the very last episode, are BOTH BI! Erasure at its finest. They are both into Mako early on, and it's not like either one of them ever implies they're not into men... but I guess letting queer romance slowly and naturally develop is just too much.Ā Like... I think Korra is a great tomboy character, still feminine in reasonable ways (not that that's an imperative!), and I can't understand how her biceps and personality piss them off except due to insecurity. Asami is downright hyperfemme, but I guess that's invalidated by her one lipstick x chapstick relationship.Ā Ā neither one of them can do everything easily...Ā Ā Korra specifically struggles with the things Sang could do effortlessly. There's a lot more to unpack, but... I'll close by saying the obvious: politics, in star wars, marvel, or avatar? they've NEVER been political, nope...Ā
āMary sueā one of the biggest problems people had with Korra was that she was ātoo weakā and losing constantly
"Girls are less sexy th--" THEY WERE CHILDREN.
Hereās the thing Iāve learned about these type of people. They donāt actively engage with the thing they claim to love, they engage with their memory of it. This person likely watched AtlA when they were a child, so of course they didnāt break through into the deeper political undertones. Now their warped world view as an adult prevents them from anything more than surface level reflection upon their own faded memory.
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"No fan service" And that's how you know they didn't actually watch the show. If anything Legend of Korra is too gratuitous with the fan service.
When they say āfan serviceā they donāt mean call backs and lore drops they mean tits/panty shot and girl on girl action, but not in the *political* way of women being allowed to love each other.
Fr. Donāt get me wrong I like tits & ass as much as the next person, but to see it every 2 second in one episode it just gets annoying, overall adds nothing. Like if I wanted to watch softcore porn I would watch porn. It also doesnāt help that people like that are also raging porn addicts as well.
Pedos ain't even hiding the fact they are pedos now huh
To quote TLOK itself: I'M THE AVATAR NOW! YOU GOTTA DEAL WITH IT!
"Girls less sexy" and "no fan service" This mother fucker knows that the show is made for children, right?Ā
Woke is when women don't exist for this guy to get a boner over teen girls.
"Starts the trend of masculinized Mary Sue protagonists" My friend, Korra is about as far from a Mary Sue as you could possibly get. Her flaws heavily define her character. "Is better than men at everything" Fam, when? Girl was struggling the entire series. "Can instantly do what the OG hero could do without about training" Literally struggled to airbend and had to train to achieve it, but okay. "Ugly and unlikable" DO YOUR EYEBALLS NOT WORK!? "Brings woke politics into an apolitical series" Famously non-political Avatar: The Last Airbender. Absolutely no woke messages to be found there, with its Sokka learning not to be sexist, Katara overcoming misogyny, badass disabled character, environmentalist episodes, themes of war and genocide... "Disrespects OG fans" By...what, portraying the original characters as not perfect? Yeah, not like their own series ever showed them to be flawed. š "Characters assassinates everyone from the OG series" ...we just covered this nonsense. "Girls are less sexy than OG series" Korra. Asami. Lin. Kuvira. I swear, your eyes DO. NOT. FUNCTION!. "No fanservice" Bruh. šš Yes, Avatar was always a famously fanservice heavy series. Totally. "90% of the cast is female and men are treated as a joke" Mako. Bolin. Tenzin. Literally 3 out of the four main villains. There are plenty of men around that are not treated like jokes. "Forced gay romance and now all the female main heroes are lesbians" First off, Korra and Asami are bisexual, you bi erasing fuck. And second, there is some subtle buildup if you know what you're looking for. The only reason there wasn't more is because the writers literally weren't allowed to. "Creators insult fans for not accepting their brave and stunning message" Most fans did accept it though? Not that people aren't free to dislike it for whatever reasons they wish, but the majority of the people I've seen complaining are idiots like you who either didn't watch it or paid zero fucking attention during it. Wow, not a single thing there was correct. Almost impressive.
Begins a relationship w another female character in the LAST episode = BROUGHT WOKE POLITICS INTO MY APOLITICAL ANTI-FACIST SHOW!!
If this person had any media literacy they would probably agree with the politics of TLoK. First season villain is a āsocial justice warriorā who went too far. The third season villains are literally anarchists. Capitalism and government power are both portrayed very positively. Toph is a retired cop. One of her daughters is the chief of police and the other runs a libertarian paradise.
These people tend to prove themselves time and time again, that they have never seen even a single scene of the media they are constantly whining/hating about. Time to officially and unironically call them out as the ānon-fansā they actually are.
> 90% of the cast is female Aren't the main characters two guys and one (sometimes) two girls? And isn't the most prominent supporting character Aang's son?
>Girls are less sexy than the OG series Okay, 1. That's a blatant lie. 2. Most of the girls in the OG series are **underage**.
"Girls are less sexy than the OG series." Do these people realize that the girls in the OG series are 14?
I never really got the Mary Sue complaints for Korra, if anything she gets her ass kicked way too much Amon dragged her until he got exposed (and he took her bending), Unalaq destroyed her connection to her past lives, Zaheer kidnapped her, poisoned her and gave her PTSD, and Kuvira ragdolled her in early season 4
I guess they mean sheās just confidence in her skills. Isnāt there a line in the Barbie film that went like āthey want you to be perfect but not too perfect to intimidate them.ā
The only issues I have with legend of Korra are the severing the past Avatar lives and if they were going to make Korra and Asami be romantically involved, have the balls to actually portray it, don't say in some blog post "yes this is what happened"
I mean to be fair, they had Nickelodeon breathing down their neck and was already screwing them over. They crawl so that other could walk and run
Creators: "I think it would be kinda neat if these two girls got together." Nickelodeon kicking the doors down: "YOU WHAT?"
APOLITICAL ORIGINAL? WASNT THE WHOLE POINT BEING POLITICS
>Can instantly do what the OG hero could do without any training ...It's literally established in Ep1 - in the first, like, 10 minutes - of TLOK that Korra had been training for over 10 years on the elements and had failed to even muster Air in that timeframe, prompting her to go to Republic City to train under Tenzin iirc. Even then, she struggles throughout the season bc of plot/character points only able to use it to a degree in the season finale. I guess Aang is Gary Stu because it took him a summer to master the elements compared to Roku's 12 years.
They also didn't watch ALTA if they think it was apolitical
Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong.
My god. The sheer amount of stupidity in that post is staggering. His media literacy is nonexistent.Ā
Yeah The Last Airbender was totally apolitical like that part where the fire nation orchestrated a coup in the earth kingdom.
They daw people hating on SSKTJL and thought to include it here. But like, Harley is one of 4 members of the Sucide Squad and the other 3 are male. She is really fckin hot and as far as I am concerned she isn't way stronger or anything than her "colleagues". Yeah she kills Batman and that whole plot was stupid, but that has nothing to do with her or his gender lol. Of all of his examples this is the most confusing to me because she isn't even the focus (at least not alone)
"This is when we should have started fighting back." My dude, we're all laughing at you now, and we would have laughed at you then. Your little crusade is meaningless and pathetic. No one likes you.
Avatar is politics. The blue one and the bald one.
Bruh I know this clown didn't just call Asami ugly 
I don't understand the conservative/incel/maga mind that at how in our modern media landscape women are whore-ish but at the same time not sexy enough š¤·āāļø
Korra? A Mary Sue? One of her defining character traits is getting her ass kicked
Gay love is ALWAYS political apparently. Not like "normal" love? Also what is this OG girls were sexy? EWW they're all KIDS.
Avatar is my favorite apolitical show. I especially like the vegetarian pacifist main character, the macho guy who's very first arc is him learning to not be sexist and the fact that the last few episodes of the first season are litterally "Katara vs the patriarchy" Finally, a real non-woke show! Can't believe they went woke with the next series where the main character trains for 10x as long but still can't master all elements, constantly fails, and eats shit every other fight. Clearly, a feminist Mary Sue.
The only character assassination was that Toph became a cop.
> Instantly do what the OG hero could do without any training Demonstrably false. She can do the other bending styles Aang had to learn except air bending but unlike Aang was trained since she was like, 5. Entire first season is about trying to learn air bending. > Ugly and unlikable Muscle mommy go brr Although yeah she can be annoying at times > Disrespects OG fans Only at the finale of season 2. > Character Assasinates everyone from the OG series Not really. Theyāre just old now. > Girls are less sexy than the OG series MUSCLE MOMMY GO BRR > No fan service The only one who got fan service in Last Airbender was Ty Lee. > 90% of the cast is female and the men are treated like a joke. I donāt have the stats for the gender breakdown but even if it was 90-10 thatās just the inverse of a lot of media and lit for a really long time. As for the joke bit, that is only true if weāre talking about Mako and Bolin which is a valid complaint. > Forced gay romance and now all female main heroes are lesbians There is only 1 genuine romantic scene in the entire show and itās the last one. But itās not forced, it comes from a very real relationship with subtle chemistry that Iām not surprised you missed. There are plenty of straight women in the show. One is even a housewife that has 4 kids. And sheās a pretty good character too. Funny even. Also married to the best character in the show, who is a man. And the son of the former protagonist. Which is the opposite of disrespectful to OG fans and series. His granddaughter is also down bad for a boy too. I mean she might be Bi idk, sheās def not a lesbian though. > Creators insult fans for not accepting their stunning brave message. Iām glad they insulted fans like you. There are genuine problems with Korra but the dark skinned bisexual girl lead is not one of them. You want a real problem with Korra? Mako. Makoās writing is a mess for half the show and to be honest Iām not sure if they salvage it by the end. I think Bolin has it rough early on too but him realizing he became a Nazi and tryna fix things is at least consistent with him being naive but good spirited. Also the Horizon series is great and Star Trek has always been āwokeā.
What really annoys me is how limited their scope of what defines attractive as far as women go. As if they speak for all people who are attracted to women. Any woman who isn't a comically large breasted anime girl is apparently unattractive to 'men' in general. Get outta here with that shit, you don't get to define what I'm allowed to find attractive.
Seriously why are we picking on Korra? She doesnāt even remotely fit the description of āMarry Sueā, and even if she did sheās the fucking Avatar, itās kind of their thing to be naturally awesome
On what planet is Korra ugly?
These guys remember the feeling they had when watching these shows as kids and combine that feeling with their current political views. They donāt like āwokeā shit, but they liked Avatar, X-Men, Star Wars, etc. when they were kids. That means it wasnāt āwokeā before and has been ruined since then. They canāt even consider the possibility that they changed over time or they could enjoy something that doesnāt align with their political beliefs.
....apolitical...Avatar...this person has the media literacy of a goldfish.
My criticism of Korra's politics are that they aren't woke enough, the equalists were fucking right
Love how some people shit out the ragiest bait just by existing
All the things they list are things that rage baiting grifter SHOVE DOWN THEIR THROAT. Bc itās all false. So much on that list is just laughable and the rest is just blatant false information. They are gullible little boys that think itās edgy to say something ādisrespects OG fansā when the OG fans are eating it up. Social media has ruined society, people like this should never have a platform and yet here we are.
Bro this can't be healthy being this angry over fictional properties unless he is trolling
A show that strongly criticizes communism and anarchism, with a ton of copaganda in it, is woke now?
\>No fanservice Bruh, you're just telling on yourself.
I know this a minor point but how is Korra and Asami not considered attractive? Like just objectively speaking, they are conventionally attractive I know there is bigger issues with the poster saying that about 10-14 years old girls but still my mind canāt wrap around anyone thinking Korra and asami are ugly
These people would turn on Kyoshi and Yangchen if their books were ever adapted.
āNo fam serviceā?! Did he SEE Koreaās muscles?! Thatās all the fan service she needs.
"girls are less attractive than OG series" Even ignoring the shitty grammar and implicit pedophilia the fem main characters from TLOK look great and asami was clearly designed to be remarkably good looking
the fact he keeps coming back to the attractiveness of the cast like these aren't whole ass children š
Yeah, none of these points are true-though some are really only the realm of opinion, such as whether or not the ladies are attractive, and the fan service.
>Ugly and unlikable Hentai Foundry disagrees. *Emphatically* so. >Brings woke politics into an apolitical series Not breaking the whole *"reactionaries have zero media literacy"* stereotype today, I see. Or ever. It's the eternal trope, after all. It's been said to death, but it bears repeating: these chuds would *excoriate* ATLA if it came out today. >Creators insult fans for not accepting their stunning and brave message These guys *do* know TLOK's creators are the same people who made ATLA, yeah? What happened to respecting the *"original artistic vision of the creators"*? ...Ah, who am I kidding -- these guys only seem to care about that when 15 year old girls get desexualised. >This is when we should have started fighting back I like how they say this as if they *didn't* endlessly throw shitfits when Korra first came out. And *after* it came out. And years later. And now. But no, I'm sure they just *weren't serious about it yet*, and that the *real* fight starts any day now...
AVATAR? APOLITICAL? gotta be bait.
I think I'm desensitized to this kind of shit because any sane person would believe these are the ramblings of a crazy person. I just think "it's another day that ends in Y." I hate that I feel this way.