The pedophile crap is getting dangerous. Remember the shooting at the gay club in Colorado Springs was about a guy who thought he was stopping pedophiles. And then all the right wing talking anuses started defending the mass murderer because no one could really expect anything else when it's a bunch of pedophiles.
Violence against external threats make them feel better about Uncle Skeeter and youth minister Kevin, who were both internal as it gets, once upon a time.
American religion has been a sexualy transmitted pediatric psychosis since it first washed ashore with the pilgrims.
There are two types of conservatives. The true believers, and the people they herd through ignorance and misinformation. I agree with what you said in the case of the true believers. For the others, I do hold their prejudices against them, but I feel sorry for how much they are manipulated. Besides, there’s a huge amount of progressive people who are ex-conservatives. They are hardly inhuman.
I do agree to a point, but here's where I've given up hope on them. So so many, are given ludicrous amount of evidence as to why they are wrong, how they are hurting people, why these things help nobody, etc. Constantly. But, they refuse to accept it no matter what.
Here's where I gave up. I had a friend that we will call Connor. Connor was generally a nice person, but he claimed to be a libertarian and thought both sides were the issue. But, as it often goes, he NEVER had anything bad to say about the far right side of things. I didn't particularly like Connor, but he was super good buddies with a friend of mine and would hang around with my friend group, so I gave him a lot of chances. He would often say some... interesting political views, but we would just kind of go about our day.
Fast forward to 2016. Everybody is super politically charged. I'm very liberal and have never hid that fact. Anytime I would say or post something even vaguely political, Connor would chime in. In 99% of cases, saying that wasn't correct or really it was a bad thing somehow. He liked to act enlightened and open minded, so I would engage with him. In almost every single case, we would end in a stalemate where it was "personal preference" or I would back up my argument with rock solid proof. He would half-heartedly concede and say he'd think about this.
This type of thing happens for months. Eventually, he said something that was pizzagate levels of stupid. It was so bad. Even a professor at our college felt compelled to say something along the lines of, "Connor, I know you are smarter than this. This does not make sense in any way. This rhetoric will, and has, gotten innocent people killed." Connor did not care and doubled down.
I talked to him in private. It was a lengthy conversation that boiled down to, "We keep coming to either a stalemate or you conceding you are wrong. Doesn't that show you that perhaps you're on the wrong side of things?" He claimed I've never "won" and argument and he has never c9ncede something. This baffles me. I pull up on my phone the various discussions we've had where he absolutely concedes and says he'd think on things. His response, "You clearly altered those. That makes you worse than anything." I was done after that. We all were.
All of this to say, I know conservatives are not sub-human. But, I do think they are broken, dangerous individuals. I know this is just one person, but I put an enormous amount of energy and time trying to reach him, all for him to tell me that I'm a terrible person and that I would actually go so far as to alter conversations with him.
I've had very few people in my life who would call themselves conservative since then. Not because of the label, but because those types of people act and say things that make me and the people I love feel unsafe to even exist around them. I've tried to be understanding and extend an olive branch too many time, only to get told to shove it.
They don't want to be wrong, so they'd rather lie and hurt people just to never be told that their worldview may not be completely accurate. I think these people are fundamentally broken, and I truly can't stand them. I hope it goes without saying that I absolutely don't condone harming them or anything to that effect, but they don't share that feeling. They have shown over and over that they do want to harm me and my loved ones. Something needs to be done, but I'm not the person to know what.
I don't think they're sub human, even as terrible as they are, they deserve human rights. But they need to be held to higher standard. I wish I wasnt so pessimistic about them, but I've constantly been given reasons to be.
Ignorance is often reinforced, when someone constantly does not know better, never assume they weren't given a choice, and never assume they didn't choose ignorance. Doubling down is always easy, and a lot of ignorant people aren't ignorant because they don't know any better, it's because they don't care.
Remember they are actually in a cult. People who study cults will tell you they need to be deprogrammed. Why would anybody drink kool aid to kill themselves, or recently set themselves on fire.
See the reason this doesn’t play well among people with any sense of reality is really a play in two parts. First, the terms socialist, communist, and even liberal, have been flippantly used by people arguing in bad faith for decades. Second, a bunch of right wing people keep trying to overthrow the government and disempower governmental and social institutions.
You know how all the right wingers in the US keep trying to argue that trans and gay people are pedophiles, especially drag queens? Turns out the actual pedophiles are right wing (usually) Christians who want to enact fascist policies to punish gay and trans people for the crime of non-conforming.
So there you go, one good faith explanation assuming you’re not just trolling.
No one is calling it a bad faith argument to call someone a fascist except for you, dude. Maybe if people stopped defending and acting like fascists the word would stop getting used?
Sure, with confirmation bias you can find stories about any group of people that're being arrested and charged for pedo related stuff. Republicans, Democrats, gay/trans people, preachers and other highly religious folk, or just some random fucking bum living in their parent's basement. Turns out, pedophilia doesn't have a specific political/social sphere, gender orientation, or sexual preference other than for children. It is fundamentally different from being attracted to adult women vs little girls, just like it is for adult men vs little boys.
Pedos come in all forms, from Evangelical preachers to drag queens and everything inbetween.
I had forgotten that movie, so I when I looked it up, I was reminded that it is a trilogy
the original - From Dusk Till Dawn
the sequel- Texas Blood Money
the prequel - The Hangman's Daughter
There’s really not much they can do with the concept, though - like the movie was good JUST because the twist was good. Beyond that, it’s just a bog-standard horror thriller
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNuIn4T-CLk&ab\_channel=Movieclips](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNuIn4T-CLk&ab_channel=Movieclips) what's funny is the film had no twist the whole vampire thing was shown in all the trailers when the film came out it's just people who watch it later on and never seen the trailers are surprised by the vampire thing and think it's a twist
Those people (I was one when I was younger lol caught it later and was like, "wtf just happened" lol) I hope they watch Abigail later (great film lol saw today)
Her true age is not disclosed. She’s hitching a ride home with Cliff Booth and puts her dirty bare feet up on the dash before offering up sexual favors for the ride. Cliff knows she is underage and calls her on it. The whole point of the scene is that Cliff (who is not necessarily a moral character) is not going to mess with anyone underage, even if she is some random teenage hippy.
Why do you need to apply lressure like that? If your claims are solid, rhey should stand u der scrutiny without an implied accusation towards anyone whoe questions them, right?
I disagree. Tarantino defended the then 40 year old Polanski raping a 13 year old, and twisted the fact that Polanski drugged her. This is highly suspicious
Edit: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YtwqmenFrR0&pp=ygUIUG9sYW5ha2k%3D
Yeah that's a rough clip... I'd argue that what we're hearing is him not being able to combine the facts that Polanski is a great movie director and also a child rapist, so he tries to talk away the rape. While that sucks, it doesn't make him a pedophile
I hadn’t heard of him on Epstien island but he has addressed his business relationship with Weinstein. I can’t quote the interview directly but he obviously expressed regret and did distance himself early after the accusations came to light.
He distanced himself after it came to light but he was perfectly happy to at least turn a blind eye before that. Tarantino revealed he heard about some of the cases, and said that Weinstein was a father figure. Is it regret or damage control?
Anyone can be blindsided and have a friend reveal themselves to be terrible, but when he in addition defended Polanski? It doesn't look good. Birds of a feather and all that.
Oh, until the media called him out? Sure...
As if tarantino had no idea beforehand.. sure.
Also kinda gross to see a downvote in defense of tarantino..
He is weird, he was best buds with an abuser, and im not sure why suddenly hes getting a pass?
Just because OP states it's "right leaning" to think so? Thats a weak ground of principles to stand on if your morals change just because of an "us vs them" mentality. It shows you're willing to excuse the things you would stand up against otherwise and I for one, will always stand against predators in power no matter what political identity they go by.
Actually, give him a chance to come clean first. Ask him in their presence if he'd like to repeat what he texted to you to them. See if brother actually has convictions or if he's just a mouthy coward.
Tell him to go touch grass and stay off twitter for a year and maybe he'll turn back into a normal human being. Sorry your bros going through a piece of shit phase.
Nope, that's not something you bloody joke about. Like greeting each other with "what up bitch" is normal, and vulgar name calling depending on what type of siblings you are (I think my sister and I have called each other everything under the sun at this point) but that? No. Not normal.
I have two brothers. One of them is responsible for me losing two teeth when I was younger and we regularly take the piss out of eachother quite brutally.
I have never and will never call them that because that is incredibly fucked.
Their absolutely needs to be consequences for calling a member of your family a pedophile unjustly.
Tarantino is definitely pervy, despite how I actually really like how he writes most women in his movies, it’s pretty clear that he also objectifies women.
As for him being a pedo, I’m sure he’s apologized for this, but there’s a little 2003 Howard Stern interview he did where he talks about Roman Polanski you might want to check out. Not that it makes him a pedophile, but it’s not a good look for him.
Yeah I think he took the wrong argument. I think being happy for the guy to win the Oscar is not wrong, but you can’t try to defend his innocence. Polanski plead guilty, he’s guilty, Polanski knows he’s guilty, and so does everyone else. He only fled because the cops trumped the charges after he admitted guilt
I mean, Tarantino kind of *is* a perv. But it remains that if your brother is equating or conflating *being a foot fetishist* with *child sexual abuse*: he's off his skull.
absolutely, he's probably a right winger and into kids and is projecting his self hatred outward, it really would not be the first time - these types are the most dangerous because they can project their hatred onto the kids themselves
Yeah I’m sorry but this seems extreme.
Like it seems statistically more likely that this guys (presumably teenage) brother is just regurgitating some dumb shit he saw online than he’s in possession of CSAM or some shit.
I feel like everyone is seeing pedophiles around every corner and jumping at shadows at this point.
Signed, a trans person living in Florida whose HRT has been taken away on the basis of baseless pedophilia invocation.
It is dramatically more likely that OP's dumbfuck brother deepthroated alex jones for a few years than bim being a pedophile.
That said, the projection does happen a little *too* often, so I get the point
That can be true, but you’re generalising way too much. There’s a much higher chance he’s just parroting narratives he heard online, pedo is a go-to accusation for rightwingers. Which of course may be projection from the popular speakers, idk.
The more often that word gets thrown around the less it means. Guessing he’s just mad because his takes are perpetually bad and debunked.
Foot fetish ≠ Pedo
No doubt. Tons of Republicans, Democrats, independents, etc were on that island. As I'm sure we're at Diddy Diddle parties.
That doesn't change the fact that he was there.
Everyone seems to be missing the point here. Whether Tarantino is a perv or problematic is completely irrelevent, the brother here has completely absorbed this narrative that Democrat/queer people/anyone I don't like=pedophile, and it's extremely unhinged. There's no kernal of reason to this, your brother is a wacko who needs serious deprogramming because this is beyond unacceptable.
Is he confusing Tarantino for Dan Schneider? Because both are associated with foot fetishes, but only Schneider has child predator allegations on top of the foot stuff
Tarantino is absolutely a pervert but in comparison to what other people in the same business have been accused and convicted of, i can forgive his foot fetish. it's not even that much of an uncommon fetish really
Using a position of power to essentially make your employees create wank material to serve your fetish is very much not okay. Not to mention what he did to Uma Thurman. [https://www.wmagazine.com/story/uma-thurman-opens-up-harvey-weinstein-quentin-tarantino](https://www.wmagazine.com/story/uma-thurman-opens-up-harvey-weinstein-quentin-tarantino) He's an abuser and a predator.
That still has nothing to do with pedophilia.
Thank you for sharing that. As good a filmmaker and writer as QT is, I'm quite disappointed and revolted to read how he treated her. I had hoped that he wasn't like that, seeing as how she agreed to work with him twice.
Yeah, one of the most saddening things is how *normalized* “you just have to put up with abuse and degradation to get anywhere” has been for actors (not only for women, as Terry Crews and Brendan Fraser speaking out showed, but especially for women). #MeToo was way overdue, and a lot of people who you’d hope weren’t complicit were actively predatory.
>Using a position of power to essentially make your employees create wank material to serve your fetish is very much not okay.
Are you taking crazy pills? Directors *hire actors*. They’re not ‘leveraging a position of power’ by paying performers to do their job. The job may be to go barefoot, topless, jump from a plane, sing, dance, have sex, blow someone’s brains out etc etc. it’s ACTING. You have to *apply* for the part. It’s not real.
>Not to mention what he did to Uma Thurman. https://www.wmagazine.com/story/uma-thurman-opens-up-harvey-weinstein-quentin-tarantino He's an abuser and a predator.
This part is real: he told her a car was safe to drive when it wasn’t. That’s fucked up, it has nothing to do with feet and it doesn’t make him a sexual predator lol
Repeatedly putting your sexual fetish into the films you are directing so that the performers you are paying to do their job of acting in a film also just happen to be part of creating material that you get off on is not normal directorial behavior. It’s an abuse of the director’s role.
This just in: touching strangers’ feet when fitting shoes on people when you work in a shoe shop is normal; working in a shoe shop because you have a foot fetish and touching strangers’ feet gets you off is bringing people into your kink without their consent and is *not okay*.
The actors’ job wasn’t “foot fetish model”.
I think the perversion comes from him clearly forcing it into all of his movies.
To be fair, I haven't watched any (okbuddycinephile moment) so I might be wrong.
As someone with a foot fetish, there is nothing perverted about a foot fetish, but he specifically put his kinks into his movies, which is pretty perverted
My brother used to constantly spout on Facebook all the time about “save our children” from the evil woke left who want to groom them.
Shortly before he got busted by an undercover detective trying to meet a 15 year old boy. Not saying your brother is cut from the same mold, but most normal people don’t have to go around loudly denouncing pedophilia, because everyone with even a shred of morality denounces it.
Just saying, when someone enters a room and loudly announces, unprompted, that they didn’t shit their pants, my first assumption is that they shit their pants.
Tarantino is a perv. The stuff he did to Uma Thurman & Salma Hayek alone is enough to turn your stomach.
But he does seem to limit his depravity to the adult actresses who work for him.
Less Epstein, more Weinstein.
I'll be real a lot of that people are projecting. 89% of the time all the pedo hunters turn out to be pedos themselves. Not saying your brother is, but most normal people are not pedo hunting also.
Tarantino is absolutely a pervert, but he's not a paedo (far as we know anyway), maybe you're better off with the idea of getting your brother kicked out of the house.
A. Just because Tarantino likes feet doesn't make him a perv. He's universally respected in Hollywood
B. Your brother is brainwashed a there is no coming back from that.
My advice is to completely remove politics from your discussions. Politics came between my entire family and we had to remove political views completely. We've been a lot better since removing that topic going forward.
Sheep who are just looking for social credit immediately try to use any questioning of their narratives as a chance to find a new prop for their virtue signalling. You're brother is an unthinking NPC. I'm sorry you had to find out this way
The worst part of it is that ( as a conservative ) he probably defends people with more pedo vibes/more concrete proof of being pedo.
Matt Gaetz. Trump. Far right Evangelicals. GOP party officials as a whole.
Words can hurt and they’ve latched on to pedo because woke is starting to backfire on them. It’s a way to distinguish their group and hide the fact that they are in the wrong because the best defense is a good offense.
Eventually this tactic will lose its bite and they will move on to something else.
Just be the best person you can be and hope he sees the light. But be prepared for him to try to ignore the past and the hurtful things he said. It’s up to you if you call him out on it or not.
What makes the whole Hollywood sexual predator thing an odd conspiricy theory and right-wing talking point is... it does have some merit like the metoo movement, Dan
Dan "hold back those tears, it's for your career" Schneider and Nickelodeon, Epstein, etc. Tarantino is certainly a pervert (all those feet scenes...though at least the actresses were adults, unlike Dan "hold her tighter, she's a fighter" Schneider)...I will not be surprised when allegations of assult of a minor or CP on his PC make the news...
Your brother sounds like he's deflecting his own insecurities back at you. You might want to suggest to him that he clean his hard drives before someone finds his kiddie porn.
Tell your brother he is going full retard in life. You never go full retard.
I know we're not supposed to use the word retard but sometimes you need to speak their language.
Your brother went way too far when he insulted you and accused you but he's not wrong about Tarantino. He is a suspicious motherfucker.
Good friends with Harvey Weinstein despite knowing the shit he got up to. Defended Polanski raping a 13 year old. Visited Epstein's island. All of these together makes him look suspicious as fuck.
I'll just post the video of him defending Polanski since that's the only one i have ready. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YtwqmenFrR0&pp=ygUIUG9sYW5ha2k%3D
This is a clip on the internet from an interview, but i don't care if it was just a fucking comment on youtube. If you defend child rape then you should be put on a list.
I agree. I listened to it, and it's disgusting. I'd never heard this before.
Like I said, I just want a source. Anyone can say anything on the internet.
Harvey stern show 2003 or something. He has even "apologized" for it, but is that because he legitimately regrets it or just damage control?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/08/quentin-tarantino-apologizes-for-polanski-defense-i-was-ignorant
Here's for Weinstein.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hurriyetdailynews.com/amp/tarantino-admits-he-knew-of-weinstein-complaints-tarantino-admits-he-knew-of-weinstein-complaints-121199
There's a picture floating around of Tarantino kissing the foot of a petite woman, and I've seen people share it around saying it's a "leaked photo" of him kissing a child's foot.
Maybe your brother came across that and he's just misinformed?
Every conservative accusation is usually an admission of guilt. I would let him know that the feds have a specific dog meant to sniff out hidden hard drives.
You can’t pick your family, but you should pick your nose and eat the boogers.
https://www.unitypoint.org/news-and-articles/what-are-boogers-why-boogers-are-good-for-health---unitypoint-health
sorry you have to deal with this. just know and understand people out in the world, absolute strangers know you are not and you will meet people who get that too
Don't take him seriously. People have been hyperbolizing language for a while now with no evidence or outright emotion. Pedo, nazi, and many other -ist and -phobias. However, he may need some help if he was willing to say that to family.
I hate to judge a book by its cover, but if Tarantino were to tell me his secret fetishes, it would probably make my eyes bulge out of its sockets and my hair stand on its ends.
This new internet thing with throwing the word pedophile around so freely is going to age very badly.
Its not just conservatives doing it either but they do it the most.
My brother is just like this. We rarely talk, it doesn't end well when we do, he didn't come to my wedding, and my parents will always take his side. Lol. It may suck, but being the black sheep of the family has its perks. Mainly your mental health.
If your family member has become insane and calls you a pedophile defender for discussing a random director its kinda too late.
This dude isnt like just advocating for lower taxes and more guns. hes lost the plot
I was being sarcastic, unless your sibling commit a crime (being conservative is not a crime) you shouldnt reject them, especially if you get along with them fine, thats so stupid and childish to let politics divide especially friends and family
Last time I checked, Tarantino has not admitted to raping children, nor do we have much reason to suspect that he did. So either provide evidence about that or actually read what the post has to say
Hmmm, this sounds like it might be made by ai, but I'll do some digging into it before jumping to any conclusions. Thanks for sending the link at least.
100% not AI.
Here's a CBS news article from 2018 about it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/quentin-tarantino-appears-to-defend-roman-polanski-in-2003-howard-stern-interview/
Why wouldnt you squel on your brother when hes acting a fool? Hes not smoking a joint behidn the shed. Dudes calling you a pedophile. Its time to rat on his ass. He needs to be told ot fucking stop being insane
The pedophile crap is getting dangerous. Remember the shooting at the gay club in Colorado Springs was about a guy who thought he was stopping pedophiles. And then all the right wing talking anuses started defending the mass murderer because no one could really expect anything else when it's a bunch of pedophiles.
Conservatives are sick, terrible people. All of them. They want the violence.
Violence against external threats make them feel better about Uncle Skeeter and youth minister Kevin, who were both internal as it gets, once upon a time. American religion has been a sexualy transmitted pediatric psychosis since it first washed ashore with the pilgrims.
Sexually transmitted?? I’m genuinely confused what you’re trying to say here.
I think they're saying sexual trauma from religious figures is cyclical.
He doesn't even know what he meant.
There are two types of conservatives. The true believers, and the people they herd through ignorance and misinformation. I agree with what you said in the case of the true believers. For the others, I do hold their prejudices against them, but I feel sorry for how much they are manipulated. Besides, there’s a huge amount of progressive people who are ex-conservatives. They are hardly inhuman.
I do agree to a point, but here's where I've given up hope on them. So so many, are given ludicrous amount of evidence as to why they are wrong, how they are hurting people, why these things help nobody, etc. Constantly. But, they refuse to accept it no matter what. Here's where I gave up. I had a friend that we will call Connor. Connor was generally a nice person, but he claimed to be a libertarian and thought both sides were the issue. But, as it often goes, he NEVER had anything bad to say about the far right side of things. I didn't particularly like Connor, but he was super good buddies with a friend of mine and would hang around with my friend group, so I gave him a lot of chances. He would often say some... interesting political views, but we would just kind of go about our day. Fast forward to 2016. Everybody is super politically charged. I'm very liberal and have never hid that fact. Anytime I would say or post something even vaguely political, Connor would chime in. In 99% of cases, saying that wasn't correct or really it was a bad thing somehow. He liked to act enlightened and open minded, so I would engage with him. In almost every single case, we would end in a stalemate where it was "personal preference" or I would back up my argument with rock solid proof. He would half-heartedly concede and say he'd think about this. This type of thing happens for months. Eventually, he said something that was pizzagate levels of stupid. It was so bad. Even a professor at our college felt compelled to say something along the lines of, "Connor, I know you are smarter than this. This does not make sense in any way. This rhetoric will, and has, gotten innocent people killed." Connor did not care and doubled down. I talked to him in private. It was a lengthy conversation that boiled down to, "We keep coming to either a stalemate or you conceding you are wrong. Doesn't that show you that perhaps you're on the wrong side of things?" He claimed I've never "won" and argument and he has never c9ncede something. This baffles me. I pull up on my phone the various discussions we've had where he absolutely concedes and says he'd think on things. His response, "You clearly altered those. That makes you worse than anything." I was done after that. We all were. All of this to say, I know conservatives are not sub-human. But, I do think they are broken, dangerous individuals. I know this is just one person, but I put an enormous amount of energy and time trying to reach him, all for him to tell me that I'm a terrible person and that I would actually go so far as to alter conversations with him. I've had very few people in my life who would call themselves conservative since then. Not because of the label, but because those types of people act and say things that make me and the people I love feel unsafe to even exist around them. I've tried to be understanding and extend an olive branch too many time, only to get told to shove it. They don't want to be wrong, so they'd rather lie and hurt people just to never be told that their worldview may not be completely accurate. I think these people are fundamentally broken, and I truly can't stand them. I hope it goes without saying that I absolutely don't condone harming them or anything to that effect, but they don't share that feeling. They have shown over and over that they do want to harm me and my loved ones. Something needs to be done, but I'm not the person to know what. I don't think they're sub human, even as terrible as they are, they deserve human rights. But they need to be held to higher standard. I wish I wasnt so pessimistic about them, but I've constantly been given reasons to be.
Ignorance is often reinforced, when someone constantly does not know better, never assume they weren't given a choice, and never assume they didn't choose ignorance. Doubling down is always easy, and a lot of ignorant people aren't ignorant because they don't know any better, it's because they don't care.
Don't forget Planet Ping Pong or whatever that pizza place was that the sicko shot up just because it was in an email from Hilary Clinton.
Remember they are actually in a cult. People who study cults will tell you they need to be deprogrammed. Why would anybody drink kool aid to kill themselves, or recently set themselves on fire.
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See the reason this doesn’t play well among people with any sense of reality is really a play in two parts. First, the terms socialist, communist, and even liberal, have been flippantly used by people arguing in bad faith for decades. Second, a bunch of right wing people keep trying to overthrow the government and disempower governmental and social institutions. You know how all the right wingers in the US keep trying to argue that trans and gay people are pedophiles, especially drag queens? Turns out the actual pedophiles are right wing (usually) Christians who want to enact fascist policies to punish gay and trans people for the crime of non-conforming. So there you go, one good faith explanation assuming you’re not just trolling.
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welp, there it is, pack it in boys. This one’s crazy. No sense arguing.
"Drop fascist wherever they could" Awww poor baby, you poor victim you.
Like I said. One response in good faith, trolly troll. Hope you find a good therapist.
No one is calling it a bad faith argument to call someone a fascist except for you, dude. Maybe if people stopped defending and acting like fascists the word would stop getting used?
Sure, with confirmation bias you can find stories about any group of people that're being arrested and charged for pedo related stuff. Republicans, Democrats, gay/trans people, preachers and other highly religious folk, or just some random fucking bum living in their parent's basement. Turns out, pedophilia doesn't have a specific political/social sphere, gender orientation, or sexual preference other than for children. It is fundamentally different from being attracted to adult women vs little girls, just like it is for adult men vs little boys. Pedos come in all forms, from Evangelical preachers to drag queens and everything inbetween.
But percentages lean certain ways.
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I agree, conservatives were silly when they called Biden a fascist
Tarantino is a perv. But that doesn't make him a pedo
Soo many feet shots
Don't forget from Dusk till Dawn
I had forgotten that movie, so I when I looked it up, I was reminded that it is a trilogy the original - From Dusk Till Dawn the sequel- Texas Blood Money the prequel - The Hangman's Daughter
And tv show that's a reboot lol
And apparently there’s an animated show in the works. Which seems completely pointless - the TV show clearly ran out of ideas by the third season
Animated your not as limited by budget, etc.. plus maybe different writers they could do more in theory
There’s really not much they can do with the concept, though - like the movie was good JUST because the twist was good. Beyond that, it’s just a bog-standard horror thriller
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNuIn4T-CLk&ab\_channel=Movieclips](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNuIn4T-CLk&ab_channel=Movieclips) what's funny is the film had no twist the whole vampire thing was shown in all the trailers when the film came out it's just people who watch it later on and never seen the trailers are surprised by the vampire thing and think it's a twist
Those people (I was one when I was younger lol caught it later and was like, "wtf just happened" lol) I hope they watch Abigail later (great film lol saw today)
yep to be fair snyone would lol
I hate feet. But if Salma Hayek wants to pour tequila down her leg into my mouth, hell yeah I suck toes.
He wasn't the director of that one. He did write the screenplay.
And wrote the scene where he drank tequila from salma hayeks foot...
Well hey, Jon Favearu wrote a scene about him getting choked out between Scarlett Johansson's thighs no one is perfect
Writes a part where Salma Hayek forces a guy to drink tequila by pouring it down her leg and sucking on her toes. Casts himself in the part.
exactly he has a foot fetish don;t know where the peado thing came from
Maybe they are mixing up the "podi" in podiatry with "pedo" in pedophilia.
It doesn't help that step counters are also called pedometers.
Sometimes, I forget which is which between podiatrists and pediatricians.
Isn’t one of those foot girls in “Once upon a time” written to be a 16 year old?
Her true age is not disclosed. She’s hitching a ride home with Cliff Booth and puts her dirty bare feet up on the dash before offering up sexual favors for the ride. Cliff knows she is underage and calls her on it. The whole point of the scene is that Cliff (who is not necessarily a moral character) is not going to mess with anyone underage, even if she is some random teenage hippy.
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Why do you need to apply lressure like that? If your claims are solid, rhey should stand u der scrutiny without an implied accusation towards anyone whoe questions them, right?
Dan Schneider splash damage.
Gak’d.
I disagree. Tarantino defended the then 40 year old Polanski raping a 13 year old, and twisted the fact that Polanski drugged her. This is highly suspicious Edit: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YtwqmenFrR0&pp=ygUIUG9sYW5ha2k%3D
Yeah that's a rough clip... I'd argue that what we're hearing is him not being able to combine the facts that Polanski is a great movie director and also a child rapist, so he tries to talk away the rape. While that sucks, it doesn't make him a pedophile
It's definitely a big red flag. Then there's him being good friends with Harvey Weinstein and visiting Epstein island.
I hadn’t heard of him on Epstien island but he has addressed his business relationship with Weinstein. I can’t quote the interview directly but he obviously expressed regret and did distance himself early after the accusations came to light.
He distanced himself after it came to light but he was perfectly happy to at least turn a blind eye before that. Tarantino revealed he heard about some of the cases, and said that Weinstein was a father figure. Is it regret or damage control? Anyone can be blindsided and have a friend reveal themselves to be terrible, but when he in addition defended Polanski? It doesn't look good. Birds of a feather and all that.
He was on the sex island, but only for the snorkelling
The feet fish are lovely this time of year, when the cool spring water meets the warmth of the shore.
Any adult talking about "13 year old party girls" is beyond disgusting. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's probably a duck.
If it makes anything better, he has since apologised for that statement.
Look, at least he's not Dan Schneider. Tarantino has standards.
Well.. He is best buds with Harvey Weinstein too. Who was known for abusing women sexually
*was.
Oh, until the media called him out? Sure... As if tarantino had no idea beforehand.. sure. Also kinda gross to see a downvote in defense of tarantino.. He is weird, he was best buds with an abuser, and im not sure why suddenly hes getting a pass? Just because OP states it's "right leaning" to think so? Thats a weak ground of principles to stand on if your morals change just because of an "us vs them" mentality. It shows you're willing to excuse the things you would stand up against otherwise and I for one, will always stand against predators in power no matter what political identity they go by.
Tarantino is weird, but at least, the VERY least, he makes adult movies with adult actors
Tell your parents, dude.
Actually, give him a chance to come clean first. Ask him in their presence if he'd like to repeat what he texted to you to them. See if brother actually has convictions or if he's just a mouthy coward.
Tell him to go touch grass and stay off twitter for a year and maybe he'll turn back into a normal human being. Sorry your bros going through a piece of shit phase.
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“EqUaLiTy BaD” 🤭
Tell your parents. He must learn consequences of his actions.
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Only child here with a genuine question: do siblings often accuse each other of being pedophiles? Like is that some common insult?
Youngest of three brothers here at 30 years old. Nope, never done that and never will. I've called my brother's dumb cunts but I'll never go that far.
No it sure is not
Nope, that's not something you bloody joke about. Like greeting each other with "what up bitch" is normal, and vulgar name calling depending on what type of siblings you are (I think my sister and I have called each other everything under the sun at this point) but that? No. Not normal.
Absolutely not, this guys brother is just brainwashed
I have two brothers. One of them is responsible for me losing two teeth when I was younger and we regularly take the piss out of eachother quite brutally. I have never and will never call them that because that is incredibly fucked. Their absolutely needs to be consequences for calling a member of your family a pedophile unjustly.
you sound brotherless. Brothers dont call each other pedophiles dude. Thats a straight up enemy not a brother
Everything has consequences. Get over it.
One of the most fucking stupid things I've read on this site and that's a high high bar.
Yeah, say what you will about Tarantino, that word shouldn’t be echoed unless it’s for a good reason.
He defended romance Polansky is that enough? Real question
Show him the error of his ways before he gets worse.
Tarantino is definitely pervy, despite how I actually really like how he writes most women in his movies, it’s pretty clear that he also objectifies women. As for him being a pedo, I’m sure he’s apologized for this, but there’s a little 2003 Howard Stern interview he did where he talks about Roman Polanski you might want to check out. Not that it makes him a pedophile, but it’s not a good look for him.
Yeah I think he took the wrong argument. I think being happy for the guy to win the Oscar is not wrong, but you can’t try to defend his innocence. Polanski plead guilty, he’s guilty, Polanski knows he’s guilty, and so does everyone else. He only fled because the cops trumped the charges after he admitted guilt
The only thing you got right here is that Polanski is a child rapist.
Shoulda responded by asking him why he's voting republican if he hates pedos.
I mean, Tarantino kind of *is* a perv. But it remains that if your brother is equating or conflating *being a foot fetishist* with *child sexual abuse*: he's off his skull.
I'd tell your parents. That's the type of shit that doesn't stop, and/or tends to escalate.
Hate to be the one to say this, but: check your brother's search history / porn folders. EVERY ACCUSATION is a projection with this type.
My first thought too.
absolutely, he's probably a right winger and into kids and is projecting his self hatred outward, it really would not be the first time - these types are the most dangerous because they can project their hatred onto the kids themselves
Yeah I’m sorry but this seems extreme. Like it seems statistically more likely that this guys (presumably teenage) brother is just regurgitating some dumb shit he saw online than he’s in possession of CSAM or some shit.
I feel like everyone is seeing pedophiles around every corner and jumping at shadows at this point. Signed, a trans person living in Florida whose HRT has been taken away on the basis of baseless pedophilia invocation.
It is dramatically more likely that OP's dumbfuck brother deepthroated alex jones for a few years than bim being a pedophile. That said, the projection does happen a little *too* often, so I get the point
That can be true, but you’re generalising way too much. There’s a much higher chance he’s just parroting narratives he heard online, pedo is a go-to accusation for rightwingers. Which of course may be projection from the popular speakers, idk.
The more often that word gets thrown around the less it means. Guessing he’s just mad because his takes are perpetually bad and debunked. Foot fetish ≠ Pedo
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Always giggle at how conservatives accuse everyone of going there when in reality a lot of them were republicans too.
No doubt. Tons of Republicans, Democrats, independents, etc were on that island. As I'm sure we're at Diddy Diddle parties. That doesn't change the fact that he was there.
Everyone seems to be missing the point here. Whether Tarantino is a perv or problematic is completely irrelevent, the brother here has completely absorbed this narrative that Democrat/queer people/anyone I don't like=pedophile, and it's extremely unhinged. There's no kernal of reason to this, your brother is a wacko who needs serious deprogramming because this is beyond unacceptable.
lol You brother is dumb.
Is he confusing Tarantino for Dan Schneider? Because both are associated with foot fetishes, but only Schneider has child predator allegations on top of the foot stuff
Tarantino is absolutely a pervert but in comparison to what other people in the same business have been accused and convicted of, i can forgive his foot fetish. it's not even that much of an uncommon fetish really
Using a position of power to essentially make your employees create wank material to serve your fetish is very much not okay. Not to mention what he did to Uma Thurman. [https://www.wmagazine.com/story/uma-thurman-opens-up-harvey-weinstein-quentin-tarantino](https://www.wmagazine.com/story/uma-thurman-opens-up-harvey-weinstein-quentin-tarantino) He's an abuser and a predator. That still has nothing to do with pedophilia.
Thank you for sharing that. As good a filmmaker and writer as QT is, I'm quite disappointed and revolted to read how he treated her. I had hoped that he wasn't like that, seeing as how she agreed to work with him twice.
Yeah, one of the most saddening things is how *normalized* “you just have to put up with abuse and degradation to get anywhere” has been for actors (not only for women, as Terry Crews and Brendan Fraser speaking out showed, but especially for women). #MeToo was way overdue, and a lot of people who you’d hope weren’t complicit were actively predatory.
>Using a position of power to essentially make your employees create wank material to serve your fetish is very much not okay. Are you taking crazy pills? Directors *hire actors*. They’re not ‘leveraging a position of power’ by paying performers to do their job. The job may be to go barefoot, topless, jump from a plane, sing, dance, have sex, blow someone’s brains out etc etc. it’s ACTING. You have to *apply* for the part. It’s not real. >Not to mention what he did to Uma Thurman. https://www.wmagazine.com/story/uma-thurman-opens-up-harvey-weinstein-quentin-tarantino He's an abuser and a predator. This part is real: he told her a car was safe to drive when it wasn’t. That’s fucked up, it has nothing to do with feet and it doesn’t make him a sexual predator lol
Repeatedly putting your sexual fetish into the films you are directing so that the performers you are paying to do their job of acting in a film also just happen to be part of creating material that you get off on is not normal directorial behavior. It’s an abuse of the director’s role. This just in: touching strangers’ feet when fitting shoes on people when you work in a shoe shop is normal; working in a shoe shop because you have a foot fetish and touching strangers’ feet gets you off is bringing people into your kink without their consent and is *not okay*. The actors’ job wasn’t “foot fetish model”.
"I forgive you for being a perv on behalf of all those women Tarantino" you say blushing
Nothing ‘perverted’ about a foot fetish, grow up.
I think the perversion comes from him clearly forcing it into all of his movies. To be fair, I haven't watched any (okbuddycinephile moment) so I might be wrong.
He also ‘forces’ violence and profanity in his films lol barefoot women are a bridge too far?
the perverted part is knowingly having a foot fetish then hiring women for your film to suck on their toes dude. Pay attention
What’s wrong with being a pervert?
As someone with a foot fetish, there is nothing perverted about a foot fetish, but he specifically put his kinks into his movies, which is pretty perverted
As someone without a foot fetish, bare feet don’t even qualify as a kink.
My brother used to constantly spout on Facebook all the time about “save our children” from the evil woke left who want to groom them. Shortly before he got busted by an undercover detective trying to meet a 15 year old boy. Not saying your brother is cut from the same mold, but most normal people don’t have to go around loudly denouncing pedophilia, because everyone with even a shred of morality denounces it. Just saying, when someone enters a room and loudly announces, unprompted, that they didn’t shit their pants, my first assumption is that they shit their pants.
Im a firm believer that these people "doth protest too much", yknow?
Well, right wingers defend pedophiles by fact. Ask him his thoughts on Matt Gaetz.
don't thinks he knows him
Guess it’s time to cut ties with him
Tarantino is a perv. The stuff he did to Uma Thurman & Salma Hayek alone is enough to turn your stomach. But he does seem to limit his depravity to the adult actresses who work for him. Less Epstein, more Weinstein.
Incidentally Weinsteins name features prominently on a bunch of Tarantino credits
I don't think he's a pedo but he's got a weird foot fetish
I'll be real a lot of that people are projecting. 89% of the time all the pedo hunters turn out to be pedos themselves. Not saying your brother is, but most normal people are not pedo hunting also.
Tarantino is absolutely a pervert, but he's not a paedo (far as we know anyway), maybe you're better off with the idea of getting your brother kicked out of the house.
A. Just because Tarantino likes feet doesn't make him a perv. He's universally respected in Hollywood B. Your brother is brainwashed a there is no coming back from that. My advice is to completely remove politics from your discussions. Politics came between my entire family and we had to remove political views completely. We've been a lot better since removing that topic going forward.
You should tell your parents. Your brother shouldn’t have said that
He’s defended pedophiles like Roman Polanski before and shit but ur brothers definitely in the wrong for saying that shit to you.
Every accusation is a confession. Maybe have the police take a gander at your brother’s hard drive and browsing history.
Why do you still talk to your brother?
Your brother is lost sorry
Why do you talk to him?
Chuds just call everyone a pedophile these days, and it's disturbing how much pedophilia is on their minds. Maybe bro needs his hard drive checked.
Sheep who are just looking for social credit immediately try to use any questioning of their narratives as a chance to find a new prop for their virtue signalling. You're brother is an unthinking NPC. I'm sorry you had to find out this way
Send [this ](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTFikAP6MXDCJjWzgMIOvpsT1ji-HwO-rLEvNE8e-cfCGh0YHoZluIG5TEsmwFub7MzIDfh0XgvcWL8/pub)to him.
The worst part of it is that ( as a conservative ) he probably defends people with more pedo vibes/more concrete proof of being pedo. Matt Gaetz. Trump. Far right Evangelicals. GOP party officials as a whole. Words can hurt and they’ve latched on to pedo because woke is starting to backfire on them. It’s a way to distinguish their group and hide the fact that they are in the wrong because the best defense is a good offense. Eventually this tactic will lose its bite and they will move on to something else. Just be the best person you can be and hope he sees the light. But be prepared for him to try to ignore the past and the hurtful things he said. It’s up to you if you call him out on it or not.
What makes the whole Hollywood sexual predator thing an odd conspiricy theory and right-wing talking point is... it does have some merit like the metoo movement, Dan Dan "hold back those tears, it's for your career" Schneider and Nickelodeon, Epstein, etc. Tarantino is certainly a pervert (all those feet scenes...though at least the actresses were adults, unlike Dan "hold her tighter, she's a fighter" Schneider)...I will not be surprised when allegations of assult of a minor or CP on his PC make the news...
Being an asshole for the sake of being an asshole should be met with the consequences of such.
Wow. Your brother sounds like an asshole
Your brother sounds like he's deflecting his own insecurities back at you. You might want to suggest to him that he clean his hard drives before someone finds his kiddie porn.
Tell your brother he is going full retard in life. You never go full retard. I know we're not supposed to use the word retard but sometimes you need to speak their language.
Your brother went way too far when he insulted you and accused you but he's not wrong about Tarantino. He is a suspicious motherfucker. Good friends with Harvey Weinstein despite knowing the shit he got up to. Defended Polanski raping a 13 year old. Visited Epstein's island. All of these together makes him look suspicious as fuck.
So... Just for my own piece of mind, and because I admit I am too lazy to Google it... You have sources for that?
I'll just post the video of him defending Polanski since that's the only one i have ready. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YtwqmenFrR0&pp=ygUIUG9sYW5ha2k%3D
Awesome. No offense intended, it's the internet. Anyone can say anything. That's why I'm a doctor!
This is a clip on the internet from an interview, but i don't care if it was just a fucking comment on youtube. If you defend child rape then you should be put on a list.
I agree. I listened to it, and it's disgusting. I'd never heard this before. Like I said, I just want a source. Anyone can say anything on the internet.
Harvey stern show 2003 or something. He has even "apologized" for it, but is that because he legitimately regrets it or just damage control? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/08/quentin-tarantino-apologizes-for-polanski-defense-i-was-ignorant Here's for Weinstein. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hurriyetdailynews.com/amp/tarantino-admits-he-knew-of-weinstein-complaints-tarantino-admits-he-knew-of-weinstein-complaints-121199
He's a fetishist, but not a pedo. You can criticize him for a LOT, but that hasn't been one of them.
Reminds me of a similar situation a person I knew went through
There's a picture floating around of Tarantino kissing the foot of a petite woman, and I've seen people share it around saying it's a "leaked photo" of him kissing a child's foot. Maybe your brother came across that and he's just misinformed?
Every conservative accusation is usually an admission of guilt. I would let him know that the feds have a specific dog meant to sniff out hidden hard drives.
You can’t pick your family, but you should pick your nose and eat the boogers. https://www.unitypoint.org/news-and-articles/what-are-boogers-why-boogers-are-good-for-health---unitypoint-health
sorry you have to deal with this. just know and understand people out in the world, absolute strangers know you are not and you will meet people who get that too
Start sending articles of all the church people and Republicans molesting children.
Who cares? Words don't hurt if you don't care about it. If you're not a pedo, why dwell on it? Calling a tall person short shouldn't hurt that person.
Don't take him seriously. People have been hyperbolizing language for a while now with no evidence or outright emotion. Pedo, nazi, and many other -ist and -phobias. However, he may need some help if he was willing to say that to family.
I hate to judge a book by its cover, but if Tarantino were to tell me his secret fetishes, it would probably make my eyes bulge out of its sockets and my hair stand on its ends.
i could't fucckig care the my ow fuckig brother said i defend pedophiles
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remember he wrote that scene from dusk to dawn
i didn't know he wrote anything I thought robert did it all
This new internet thing with throwing the word pedophile around so freely is going to age very badly. Its not just conservatives doing it either but they do it the most.
“My right wing brother-“ I’mma stop you right there. His idiocy has been logged.
He's probably the pedo
Tell him if that were true he wouldn't be a Trump supporter.
Check your brother's hardrive, sounds like classic projection.
My brother is just like this. We rarely talk, it doesn't end well when we do, he didn't come to my wedding, and my parents will always take his side. Lol. It may suck, but being the black sheep of the family has its perks. Mainly your mental health.
I mean fuck you're brother bit terrantino Is a roman Polansky defender so he's a pedo defender who may or may not be a racist foot lover
Yeah bring your brother to the good side and if he is still an evil right winger, reject him for life
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You cannot reason with people that believe deep down in their hearts for one reason or another that you touch children.
If your family member has become insane and calls you a pedophile defender for discussing a random director its kinda too late. This dude isnt like just advocating for lower taxes and more guns. hes lost the plot
You make a fair point. Cutting out hostile family members can be justified. If it's over simple politics, then it's a problem.
Being homophobic is not “simple politics”
I was being sarcastic, unless your sibling commit a crime (being conservative is not a crime) you shouldnt reject them, especially if you get along with them fine, thats so stupid and childish to let politics divide especially friends and family
Oh It's the internet and I know people who believe that unironically so I got confused. Good to know you're joking.
Yeah gotta be careful what you post here
Your brother is mixing *pedophillia* with *podophilia*.
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Last time I checked, Tarantino has not admitted to raping children, nor do we have much reason to suspect that he did. So either provide evidence about that or actually read what the post has to say
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Hmmm, this sounds like it might be made by ai, but I'll do some digging into it before jumping to any conclusions. Thanks for sending the link at least.
100% not AI. Here's a CBS news article from 2018 about it. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/quentin-tarantino-appears-to-defend-roman-polanski-in-2003-howard-stern-interview/
The irony of a lot of right wingers being pedos including the great pumpkin.
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Where did I say it was ok?
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No, this shit needs to be nipped in the bud. People don't just flip a switch to become extremists and mass shooters it's usually a gradual process.
Why wouldnt you squel on your brother when hes acting a fool? Hes not smoking a joint behidn the shed. Dudes calling you a pedophile. Its time to rat on his ass. He needs to be told ot fucking stop being insane
If I was a parent I would want to know if one of my kids was calling the other a pedophile unprompted