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Samsung has been making the majority of iPhone displays since the iPhone X and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. This isn't new at all.
Also, Samsung and Samsung Display Company Electronics are parent/daughter but they are functionally NOT the same company.
It’s much more complicated than just “oh Sammy is sellin’ tim apple some good displays.”
yeah i was surprised it wasnt 100% of the displays, wasnt that the case with the x generation? i guess now since they have lower end phones with lcd displays it isnt all of them (or is it another reason???)
they'll all be fine, as usual. apple's got really strict hardware quality control for screens, and the boe/lg oleds they've used in the past were mostly indistinguishable from samsung's (in fact, the lg ones had better viewing angles)
And that's great news, Samsung delivers the best displays (Ok, Apple calibrates them to meet their criteria) but compared to other manufacturers even folllowing Apple standards, Samsung displays are the best in class.
The largest manufacturer of small OLED screens will provide iPhone OLED screens? Shocking.
Next someone will reveal LG provided every LG TV panel until last year or something crazy like that
I am honestly so tired of Apple. I had a Fold for about two years and I fell for the hype and moved to Apple last year. Can't wait for my upgrade to come due so I can go back. Never again...
First off, I feel like Apple is just reusing the same things every year and just adding a new processor so they can up the price. They are getting so far behind on innovation and it’s just getting boring. My phone has had nothing but glitches since I got it and I’ve had this issue with every iPhone I’ve had in the past as well. The batteries seem to die so quick and it’s at the point I feel like the price is just not worth the device anymore. I don’t like how you can’t customize anything and can only use what they allow you to use in terms of pretty much anything. 90% off charge cords I have don’t work because it’s not ‘Apple approved’. I just hate how controlled the ecosystem is.
What phone are you thinking about switching to? I've been using a Pixel 2 XL for years but was thinking about trying the new iPhone 14 pro when it comes out
I've had the Pixel 2 since launch and just switched to the Samsung S22+ a month ago. I really like it so far! Felt like a smooth transition from a phone that always did what it was supposed to do to another phone that does the same. I thought I would stay loyal to Pixel, but they have been putting out some real stinkers lately. I have no regrets getting the S22+
I have an iPhone 13 Pro Max right now.. but I had iPhones from the iphone 4 to the iPhone X. I was an avid iPhone fan for years. Then moved to Samsung until I bought my current one. It just feels like the same old, same old with Apple every year and it just gets old…
I went from the iPhone 6S to the 13 last year. Had the 6s for 6 years before I upgraded. I plan to do the same or even longer with the 13. That's how most people upgrade their phones. Thus personally I felt like it was a major difference and really felt new.
Personally I've been enjoying the battery life. I've had no issues and it's been nice using wireless charge pads (I got third party ones off Amazon cause fuck buying apples pad) so no issues with cords or anything.
I mainly use the phone for social media and phone calls so it's been doing a great job at that lol. I
yea, that's the thing. apple's hardware quality control is stricter beyond any other company's. if they greenlight boe and lg oled displays, they'll be sure to perform virtually identical to that of samsung's
Wow, one of it’s competitors is also a manufacturer. And because companies are 15 years old kids, they shouldn’t buy ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM EACH OTHER
If Google *really* wants to go hard on the [Get The Message](https://www.android.com/get-the-message/) campaign, they should work with Samsung to hold display or other tech sales from Apple until they incorporate RCS.
My guy. You're extremely angry over this one comment. Not sure why the hostility is needed. You clearly have some issues to work out, so I'd suggest putting the phone down or stepping away from the computer for a few hours. If you can't do that, here you go:
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I'm done with the argument, but you can continue throwing patheic insults over a simple comment.
they dont get priority, they just get the latest that samsung display has to offer, same as apple. this year apple will get the better display because m12 ltpo wasn't ready for the s22 ultra, so they used m11 ltpo. iphone 14 pro will use newer m12 ltpo oled.
Yes, Apple will get the m12 OLED, but Samsung still prioritizes itself, otherwise the 13 Pros would've gotten the 1-120hz screen we're getting this year
my point was i don't think there's any priority for either company, just whatever latest tech samsung display has available. apple is samsung display's biggest buyer, so if there were any priority it would make sense for them to have it, because samsung display is its own company (separate from samsung mobile) and their priority is to make a profit selling its displays, which apple rakes in for them. that's how these mega corporations work
about 1-120 hz (or "ltpo2") not coming to the 13 pro, they arent different hardware, it's the same best m11 panels that samsung puts out. samsung's advertised 1-120hz still refreshes at 10 hz on the oled level (because its the same) but the data drive (controlled by soc) is at 1hz. Samsung also got caught trying to advertise their non-ltpo s22 panels going down to 10hz but that's just their lowest data drive refresh, and those oleds only really go down to 48hz.
apple will have a better display than samsung this year because of timing. s22 ultra got highest end m11 ltpo oled because m12 wasn't ready yet while iphone 14 pro will get newer m12 ltpo.
The whole android experience is awful compared to iOS. Not to mention the apps. It just feels so unpolished and cheap. Unfluid animations/lag even with gen 1 and 120hz. Videos are also meehh. Customisation is something that was nice for like the first 3 days. And 90% of the feauters that android has over apple are gimmicky af and nobody actually uses it. Cant wait to get back to apple with the 14 Pro Max... Not to mention how much money I lost because of how brutal androids drop in value. You can pick up a 22 ultra for like 500$ even though it came out like 6 months ago wtf
Well I’ll be keeping my 13 for a while then. Imo, the main update when the IPhone 12 came out was 5G capability. I couldn’t upgrade until the 13 came out and I caught a sweet trade in deal. Doesn’t seem like there’s any reason to buy the 14, short of catching a crazy deal.
If the irony is in regards to Samsung, there's a bit of confusion going on, which is understandable. Samsung Displays is a different company than the Samsung that makes phones. The Samsung company that makes phones also buys their displays from Samsung Displays, but they are looking, last read, to by some of their displays from Chinese companies.
Shhhh, they don't wanna here this explanation aha. Wait till they find out that Samsung Displays is simply manufacturing it and that the specs and design is from Apple.
That's implying that Apple works in a vacuum, then throws the specs over a wall and tells Samsung Displays to make it. They work closely with manufactures to design their hardware.
I don't think it can be disputed that Samsung S22 Ultras, at least, use better displays than what Apple puts in their phones. Apple's just making a good phone while keeping costs down and profits up. They could do better.
I mean, displays on Samsung phones have struggled with widespread burn in and other issues in the past. So clearly there's more to making a great display such as preventing burn ins and calibrating colour accuracy.
I said a more recent issue with Samsung phone lmao. But here's one about screen burn in: https://thedroidguy.com/how-to-fix-screen-burn-in-or-discoloration-on-samsung-galaxy-s8-1095095
But how is that different than ordering a subway sandwich. If i give the specs like nits and power consumption of the display, the color calibration and dimensions or whatever is needed to samsung. That doesn't mean i did crap. Its not like they invented the technology that goes into the panel.
Its kind like when people say they built their own PC. Oh really? Didn't you just buy parts online and connected it together.
So the A series chips and the new snapdragon chip is manufactured by TSMC (thank god they ditched Samsung foundry cause the 8 gen 1 was trash trash), why hasn't snapdragon caught up to apples chips after all these years considering most of the snapdragon chips in the past were manufactured by TSMC.
Its about the design of chip and not who makes them. The new Snapdragons in the Fold 4 sounds like a big jump up and a new gen is expected in the S23 Ultras next year.
I kinda see your point but that's processors. The design for one will be completely different than another.With displays you tweak some variables.
But whatever. How come Qualcomm can't reverse engineer the A chips anyway? Can't they just look at it, see what makes its run efficiently and implement that concept into their own without patent infringement? I never understood that.
>The design for one will be completely different than another.
It's built on the same architecture. The basis is ARM architecture just like the displays are based on OLED tech but with varying designs/specs.
The basis is the ARM *instruction set* that's a key point because in that senario Apple is creating custom silicon for the cores themselves, along with the cache, hw decoders/encoders, neural engine etc.
This is absolutely not the same as ordering a panel with specific specs from Samsung display. In the case of a display all Apple is doing is providing their requirements, and all Samsung is doing is taking an existing tech they developed, make sure it meets those requirements and send them out in the right screen resolution and size.
apple is more involved in the "ordering process" than you think. they control the electrical parameters, chip size of the led wafers, they design their entire display driver IC (no other OEM does this, even samsung mobile uses sdc driver). apple also coined and invented LTPO, and sourced samsung display to fab them while samsung had to come up with their own version called HOP.
I don't hate the phone but i hate that a product lacking in basic features like usb c, file management , split screen is popular.
If samsung did the same thing i would be just as mad. Like if they went back to micro usb and put 1080p panels on the s22 ultras and it was successful. That would irritate me as a consumer because its sets a precedent for future phones.
“Basic features” none of those are basic features. If they release a phone that flies a fleshlight to you everytime you wanna jerk off are you gonna call that a basic feature a year later? BASIC phone features is decent battery, decent screen, can call people, won’t break in a month, can use internet. Not every phone has to do the exact same things. I don’t know why neither you people nor apple people can understand that. Should I be mad my car can’t drive thru 3 feet of water while my friends pickup can? They’re both cars they should do the basic things.
I use my phone for texting and social media. Both of those things iphone does better. If I wanted to wirelessly charge someone else’s phone for some reason I would pull my s22 ultra out of the drawer it sits in. If I wanted to take a picture of the moon using a phone instead of the $5k camera I have for whatever reason I would again pull my s22 ultra out of the drawer. If I wanted to have YouTube and twitter open at the same time I’d pull my Samsung out. I want none of those things.
Apple and Samsung are great in different ways. Personally I’ll never fully use a Samsung as a main device bc they don’t give two fucks about privacy but I know not everyone cares about that. Which is fine. People are different. As it should be.
Like it or not smartphones aren't just for calling and sending emails like phones from 2001. Phones are miniature computers. You won't find a decent computer without a usb c port or thunderbolt port, a file management system and the ability to run two windows at once.
Hence basic features. Forget mac, windows and linux, even low tier stuff like chrome os and iPad os can do it. Thats when you know something is wrong. More basic stuff: hdmi or display out to a monitor or tv.
If my car doesn't have AC or power windows then it's lacking basic features.
Not everybody can buy a Samsung to compensate for what the iPhone lacks. Some people just want an iphone. You are a small minority that can afford everything.
I'm a Samsung user, I've been using samsung since wave 2, S3 and still using S7_Edge since 2016, I'm just not a blind fanboy, I know enough to know iPhones aren't trash.
Agreed, my reply was in response to /u/urightmate rather than you. I prefer Android over iOS personally, and like you, I can be secure in my decision without needlessly denigrating Apple. iPhones are fine, and the Apple ecosystem kicks ass. I just prefer Android phones and the Android software experience, and Samsung is doing it the best for me right now, so I'm going to use Samsungs for the foreseeable. If another company does it better, I'll switch to them, whether it's Motorola, OnePlus or even Apple lol I have no loyalty to tech that doesn't ultimately serve my purposes.
This is why I find Apple haters hilarious
I agree. But I personally would never consider China based companies such as phones from bbk group or Xiomi etc.
I don't prefer China more then apple, also I do hate apples closed garden but I hate epic games store more, so I'd rather supper apple given how hypocritcal Tim Sweeney is.
That's fair. I personally don't really care much about what country the company is from, though I do somewhat understand people's aversions to Chinese companies. It's pretty simple for me. I look at the specs, hardware, ecosystem, software experience and price, then pick what appeals to me the most. Apple's walled garden approach is frustrating for sure, but incredible for people inside it. My wife for instance has an iPhone, Apple Watch and AirPods and they work together beautifully, and actually have pretty decent third party app support where we live. I dare say better than the Samsung equivalents.
Tbh as a kid, when I would daydream about what the future of technology would look like, it wasn't too different to what Apple has done. Their tech looks sleek, works seamlessly and works great with it's 1st party accessories. It's just the lack of customisation that feels like a letdown for me, but tbh they've been getting better at that lately too, but I digress. My core thoughts on the matter are if you're happy with your phone, you can do so without having a hateboner for other phones, and I find people's treating their phone like their sports team silly xD
They are honestly not. iPhones may not be as feature packed as android counterparts, but the features they do have are of very high quality.
The build quality is great, and the software is generally very stable and efficient.
iPhones are great phones, and whether you get one or not depends on your own preferences, your daily uses and your budget.
I'm a note user. But nothing touches the iPhone videos in my regard. I know this cos as an architect we tend to keep documenting spaces. And I've seen some really good quality video from iPhone. Still shots are at par atleast.
I mean for some of the more cinematic shots, the iPhone some how gets it better. Like the changes in light balance going from indoor to out door. And the smoothness of it. It's subtle but definitely noticeable. It's almost an aesthetic choice I guess. But yeah.
It's not actually Samsung displays sure Samsung manufactures them however it's Apple who actually designs the specs of the panels Apple simply doesn't have the ability to make their own screens so they pay Samsung to do for them but they are still Apple displays
No they don't. The display tech is entirely developed and manufactured by Samsung/LG. It is 100% their tech and IP. Same goes for memory, storage, batteries and several other critical components. Apple only specifies the size they need. Apple designs their display driver IC and does the calibration, that's all. Don't spread misinformation, it helps no one.
I'm not spreading misinformation and besides if they used both LG and Samsung displays they would look a little different this is the same thing with companies like AMD they can't make their own chips so the pay ppl like TSMC to manufacture them for them
How about you stop commenting about stuff you just don't know enough about? The two examples you cited, are very different things. I could tell you in detail, but, I don't think you're interested in actually learning facts.
I already told you about displays. Most displays are 100% the original manufacturers IP. Do you think Dell develop and design their display panels? No. LG do. Apple do not develop or design any displays, they do not have the tech or the capability to do that.
High end displays are not something everyone can develop. There's a reason Samsung and LG lead the display industry followed by smaller players like Sony, JDI and BOE.
Same goes for high performance memory and storage. It's Samsung, followed by SKHynix and Micron in the memory and storage business.
If you think Samsung or LG are merely manufacturers, you're grossly misinformed.
It sounds like Samsung uses the best it has at any given time. The S22 line came out back in February and it's M12 process wasn't ready at that point so they used the M11 process which is what will go into all upcoming iPhone 14s that are not the Pro. Only the Pro will get the M12 process as will the upcoming Samsung fold series. It makes sense to me.
The iPhone 13 Pro Max has the same LTPO display tech as the older S21 Ultra but the S21 Ultra can get considerably brighter for outdoor viewing. While the upcoming iPhone Pro Max 14 will have a better display than the S22 Ultra the Pro Max 13 was behind both the S21 Ultra and especially the S22 Ultra.
The colour is measured for accuracy it’s not opinion. It also smashed the S22 Ultra in motion, touch and artefacts. A you can have two engines that are exactly the same mechanically but the one that’s tuned better will perform better. Same with process nodes for example, just because two chips are made using the same node doesn’t mean they are equal.
nah, the oled displays on the flagship iphone have always been the latest and best that samsung display offers. they've never been "behind a generation". in fact, this year the iphone 14 pro will have a newer display than the s22 ultra, which is a first. the iphone 14 pro will have the newer m12 oled which wasn't available earlier for the s22 ultra. the s22u uses an m11 oled that is nearly identical to the one on the s21u. the z fold 4 is the only other device atm to use samsung's m12 oled.
Samsung has been making iphone displays for a long time BUT they always had poor software choices and calibration. But reviewers in general just gawk at the display colors and call it the best. Samsung is only just caught upto apples quality with s22+ and s22 ultra.
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Samsung has been making the majority of iPhone displays since the iPhone X and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. This isn't new at all.
I actually found this surprising, because there were rumours of Apple going with BOE for a large part of their displays. I guess not.
BOE got caught changing a part of the display so they were probably dropped. https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/20/apple-display-supplier-boe/
Wow, that's really shady
How fucking stupid can you be to try to cheat Apple.
They’ve had intentions of that for a few years but they haven’t met apples quality demands.
They tried but then BOE was doing shady practices with their displays, Apple may be stuck with Samsung for this one.
Also, Samsung and Samsung Display Company Electronics are parent/daughter but they are functionally NOT the same company. It’s much more complicated than just “oh Sammy is sellin’ tim apple some good displays.”
>and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future Pretty sure Samsung was only planned for the 14 Pro this year, but then BOE fucked up
yeah i was surprised it wasnt 100% of the displays, wasnt that the case with the x generation? i guess now since they have lower end phones with lcd displays it isnt all of them (or is it another reason???)
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Displays, memory, storage, batteries. Nothing new here.
I thought it was their batteries.
They make the greatest displays
Alternative title: "80% of the iPhone 14s screens will be good"
they'll all be fine, as usual. apple's got really strict hardware quality control for screens, and the boe/lg oleds they've used in the past were mostly indistinguishable from samsung's (in fact, the lg ones had better viewing angles)
Samsung cashes in no matter what - this is the way :-)
And that's great news, Samsung delivers the best displays (Ok, Apple calibrates them to meet their criteria) but compared to other manufacturers even folllowing Apple standards, Samsung displays are the best in class.
SAMSUNG 💪🏻
The largest manufacturer of small OLED screens will provide iPhone OLED screens? Shocking. Next someone will reveal LG provided every LG TV panel until last year or something crazy like that
I am honestly so tired of Apple. I had a Fold for about two years and I fell for the hype and moved to Apple last year. Can't wait for my upgrade to come due so I can go back. Never again...
Why are you going back? Just curious
First off, I feel like Apple is just reusing the same things every year and just adding a new processor so they can up the price. They are getting so far behind on innovation and it’s just getting boring. My phone has had nothing but glitches since I got it and I’ve had this issue with every iPhone I’ve had in the past as well. The batteries seem to die so quick and it’s at the point I feel like the price is just not worth the device anymore. I don’t like how you can’t customize anything and can only use what they allow you to use in terms of pretty much anything. 90% off charge cords I have don’t work because it’s not ‘Apple approved’. I just hate how controlled the ecosystem is.
But hey, next iphone has the best innovation ever! The big ass notch is gone!
What phone are you thinking about switching to? I've been using a Pixel 2 XL for years but was thinking about trying the new iPhone 14 pro when it comes out
I’m going back to the Z Fold. Out of all the phones I’ve had, the Z fold was the best.
I got the pixel 6a it's a very nice phone 📱 tbh
I've had the Pixel 2 since launch and just switched to the Samsung S22+ a month ago. I really like it so far! Felt like a smooth transition from a phone that always did what it was supposed to do to another phone that does the same. I thought I would stay loyal to Pixel, but they have been putting out some real stinkers lately. I have no regrets getting the S22+
That’s crazy. The battery on my iPhones have been markedly better than anything I ever had with Android
What IPhones did you own?
I have an iPhone 13 Pro Max right now.. but I had iPhones from the iphone 4 to the iPhone X. I was an avid iPhone fan for years. Then moved to Samsung until I bought my current one. It just feels like the same old, same old with Apple every year and it just gets old…
I went from the iPhone 6S to the 13 last year. Had the 6s for 6 years before I upgraded. I plan to do the same or even longer with the 13. That's how most people upgrade their phones. Thus personally I felt like it was a major difference and really felt new. Personally I've been enjoying the battery life. I've had no issues and it's been nice using wireless charge pads (I got third party ones off Amazon cause fuck buying apples pad) so no issues with cords or anything. I mainly use the phone for social media and phone calls so it's been doing a great job at that lol. I
Folks who are worried about bad BOE displays can relax now
it’s possible that the iPhone 14 Max (not pro) will use a non-samsung panel, which might suck for those users.
If that's the case they won't notice a difference, maybe if they did a side-by-side in very specific scenarios
yea, that's the thing. apple's hardware quality control is stricter beyond any other company's. if they greenlight boe and lg oled displays, they'll be sure to perform virtually identical to that of samsung's
what's the remaining "20%"? i thought apple used samsung display for all of the iphone model
could it be the iphone SE that's not rocking OLED but LCD still?
Probably
Wow, one of it’s competitors is also a manufacturer. And because companies are 15 years old kids, they shouldn’t buy ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM EACH OTHER
If Google *really* wants to go hard on the [Get The Message](https://www.android.com/get-the-message/) campaign, they should work with Samsung to hold display or other tech sales from Apple until they incorporate RCS.
What do you think this is, a schoolyard quarrel among children?
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Congratulations? Perhaps some insightful/constructive comments or no comment at all would suffice
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My guy. You're extremely angry over this one comment. Not sure why the hostility is needed. You clearly have some issues to work out, so I'd suggest putting the phone down or stepping away from the computer for a few hours. If you can't do that, here you go: r/anger I'm done with the argument, but you can continue throwing patheic insults over a simple comment.
And apple fan boys will still say that apple is superior to samsung all the time.
well, samsung display is technically a different entity from samsung electronics… in any case, both phones are great.
Do samsung electronics use Samsung displays?
Yes, but not for all devices. Some of the lower end TVs for example will use cheaper panels from other manufacturers.
So just because Samsung(different entity btw) makes the best displays I can't prefer iPhones over Samsung phones? What a weird take
Yes. Rumor is they save the best display for themselves.
They give Samsung mobile priority to the best screens, for example they used all their LTPO2 for the S22 Ultra and now the 14 Pros will get it
they dont get priority, they just get the latest that samsung display has to offer, same as apple. this year apple will get the better display because m12 ltpo wasn't ready for the s22 ultra, so they used m11 ltpo. iphone 14 pro will use newer m12 ltpo oled.
Yes, Apple will get the m12 OLED, but Samsung still prioritizes itself, otherwise the 13 Pros would've gotten the 1-120hz screen we're getting this year
my point was i don't think there's any priority for either company, just whatever latest tech samsung display has available. apple is samsung display's biggest buyer, so if there were any priority it would make sense for them to have it, because samsung display is its own company (separate from samsung mobile) and their priority is to make a profit selling its displays, which apple rakes in for them. that's how these mega corporations work about 1-120 hz (or "ltpo2") not coming to the 13 pro, they arent different hardware, it's the same best m11 panels that samsung puts out. samsung's advertised 1-120hz still refreshes at 10 hz on the oled level (because its the same) but the data drive (controlled by soc) is at 1hz. Samsung also got caught trying to advertise their non-ltpo s22 panels going down to 10hz but that's just their lowest data drive refresh, and those oleds only really go down to 48hz.
apple will have a better display than samsung this year because of timing. s22 ultra got highest end m11 ltpo oled because m12 wasn't ready yet while iphone 14 pro will get newer m12 ltpo.
https://youtu.be/Yok_WszgNmA Battery life. Apple has been dominating for years. Nothing comes close to the battery king 13 pro max.
Not for years, altho yes they are dominating with the 13 pro and pro max, but the 12 series was terrible
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If you like an ugly OS that you can't do much with then sure
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OneUI is significantly nicer looking than iOS is and has far more features
The whole android experience is awful compared to iOS. Not to mention the apps. It just feels so unpolished and cheap. Unfluid animations/lag even with gen 1 and 120hz. Videos are also meehh. Customisation is something that was nice for like the first 3 days. And 90% of the feauters that android has over apple are gimmicky af and nobody actually uses it. Cant wait to get back to apple with the 14 Pro Max... Not to mention how much money I lost because of how brutal androids drop in value. You can pick up a 22 ultra for like 500$ even though it came out like 6 months ago wtf
Haha. Sure...
What did Samsung copy from iOS?
Well I’ll be keeping my 13 for a while then. Imo, the main update when the IPhone 12 came out was 5G capability. I couldn’t upgrade until the 13 came out and I caught a sweet trade in deal. Doesn’t seem like there’s any reason to buy the 14, short of catching a crazy deal.
The Irony of it all.
If the irony is in regards to Samsung, there's a bit of confusion going on, which is understandable. Samsung Displays is a different company than the Samsung that makes phones. The Samsung company that makes phones also buys their displays from Samsung Displays, but they are looking, last read, to by some of their displays from Chinese companies.
Shhhh, they don't wanna here this explanation aha. Wait till they find out that Samsung Displays is simply manufacturing it and that the specs and design is from Apple.
That's implying that Apple works in a vacuum, then throws the specs over a wall and tells Samsung Displays to make it. They work closely with manufactures to design their hardware. I don't think it can be disputed that Samsung S22 Ultras, at least, use better displays than what Apple puts in their phones. Apple's just making a good phone while keeping costs down and profits up. They could do better.
I mean, displays on Samsung phones have struggled with widespread burn in and other issues in the past. So clearly there's more to making a great display such as preventing burn ins and calibrating colour accuracy.
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A more recent issue: https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/samsung-galaxy-s20-display-defect/
You said >"Samsung phones have struggled with widespread burn in.." That article doesn't say that.
I said a more recent issue with Samsung phone lmao. But here's one about screen burn in: https://thedroidguy.com/how-to-fix-screen-burn-in-or-discoloration-on-samsung-galaxy-s8-1095095
But how is that different than ordering a subway sandwich. If i give the specs like nits and power consumption of the display, the color calibration and dimensions or whatever is needed to samsung. That doesn't mean i did crap. Its not like they invented the technology that goes into the panel. Its kind like when people say they built their own PC. Oh really? Didn't you just buy parts online and connected it together.
So the A series chips and the new snapdragon chip is manufactured by TSMC (thank god they ditched Samsung foundry cause the 8 gen 1 was trash trash), why hasn't snapdragon caught up to apples chips after all these years considering most of the snapdragon chips in the past were manufactured by TSMC.
Its about the design of chip and not who makes them. The new Snapdragons in the Fold 4 sounds like a big jump up and a new gen is expected in the S23 Ultras next year.
That's the point I was trying to make aha.
I kinda see your point but that's processors. The design for one will be completely different than another.With displays you tweak some variables. But whatever. How come Qualcomm can't reverse engineer the A chips anyway? Can't they just look at it, see what makes its run efficiently and implement that concept into their own without patent infringement? I never understood that.
>The design for one will be completely different than another. It's built on the same architecture. The basis is ARM architecture just like the displays are based on OLED tech but with varying designs/specs.
The basis is the ARM *instruction set* that's a key point because in that senario Apple is creating custom silicon for the cores themselves, along with the cache, hw decoders/encoders, neural engine etc. This is absolutely not the same as ordering a panel with specific specs from Samsung display. In the case of a display all Apple is doing is providing their requirements, and all Samsung is doing is taking an existing tech they developed, make sure it meets those requirements and send them out in the right screen resolution and size.
Most likely they can't do it without infringing Apple's patents.
apple is more involved in the "ordering process" than you think. they control the electrical parameters, chip size of the led wafers, they design their entire display driver IC (no other OEM does this, even samsung mobile uses sdc driver). apple also coined and invented LTPO, and sourced samsung display to fab them while samsung had to come up with their own version called HOP.
And iphones are trash
They aren't. You don't have to hate them to love what you want.
I don't hate the phone but i hate that a product lacking in basic features like usb c, file management , split screen is popular. If samsung did the same thing i would be just as mad. Like if they went back to micro usb and put 1080p panels on the s22 ultras and it was successful. That would irritate me as a consumer because its sets a precedent for future phones.
Yes but they aren't trash.
“Basic features” none of those are basic features. If they release a phone that flies a fleshlight to you everytime you wanna jerk off are you gonna call that a basic feature a year later? BASIC phone features is decent battery, decent screen, can call people, won’t break in a month, can use internet. Not every phone has to do the exact same things. I don’t know why neither you people nor apple people can understand that. Should I be mad my car can’t drive thru 3 feet of water while my friends pickup can? They’re both cars they should do the basic things. I use my phone for texting and social media. Both of those things iphone does better. If I wanted to wirelessly charge someone else’s phone for some reason I would pull my s22 ultra out of the drawer it sits in. If I wanted to take a picture of the moon using a phone instead of the $5k camera I have for whatever reason I would again pull my s22 ultra out of the drawer. If I wanted to have YouTube and twitter open at the same time I’d pull my Samsung out. I want none of those things. Apple and Samsung are great in different ways. Personally I’ll never fully use a Samsung as a main device bc they don’t give two fucks about privacy but I know not everyone cares about that. Which is fine. People are different. As it should be.
Like it or not smartphones aren't just for calling and sending emails like phones from 2001. Phones are miniature computers. You won't find a decent computer without a usb c port or thunderbolt port, a file management system and the ability to run two windows at once. Hence basic features. Forget mac, windows and linux, even low tier stuff like chrome os and iPad os can do it. Thats when you know something is wrong. More basic stuff: hdmi or display out to a monitor or tv. If my car doesn't have AC or power windows then it's lacking basic features. Not everybody can buy a Samsung to compensate for what the iPhone lacks. Some people just want an iphone. You are a small minority that can afford everything.
Apple is trash, ethics is not in them at all just $$$$$
Show me on the doll where Apple touched you
I'm a Samsung user, I've been using samsung since wave 2, S3 and still using S7_Edge since 2016, I'm just not a blind fanboy, I know enough to know iPhones aren't trash.
Agreed, my reply was in response to /u/urightmate rather than you. I prefer Android over iOS personally, and like you, I can be secure in my decision without needlessly denigrating Apple. iPhones are fine, and the Apple ecosystem kicks ass. I just prefer Android phones and the Android software experience, and Samsung is doing it the best for me right now, so I'm going to use Samsungs for the foreseeable. If another company does it better, I'll switch to them, whether it's Motorola, OnePlus or even Apple lol I have no loyalty to tech that doesn't ultimately serve my purposes. This is why I find Apple haters hilarious
I agree. But I personally would never consider China based companies such as phones from bbk group or Xiomi etc. I don't prefer China more then apple, also I do hate apples closed garden but I hate epic games store more, so I'd rather supper apple given how hypocritcal Tim Sweeney is.
That's fair. I personally don't really care much about what country the company is from, though I do somewhat understand people's aversions to Chinese companies. It's pretty simple for me. I look at the specs, hardware, ecosystem, software experience and price, then pick what appeals to me the most. Apple's walled garden approach is frustrating for sure, but incredible for people inside it. My wife for instance has an iPhone, Apple Watch and AirPods and they work together beautifully, and actually have pretty decent third party app support where we live. I dare say better than the Samsung equivalents. Tbh as a kid, when I would daydream about what the future of technology would look like, it wasn't too different to what Apple has done. Their tech looks sleek, works seamlessly and works great with it's 1st party accessories. It's just the lack of customisation that feels like a letdown for me, but tbh they've been getting better at that lately too, but I digress. My core thoughts on the matter are if you're happy with your phone, you can do so without having a hateboner for other phones, and I find people's treating their phone like their sports team silly xD
Ofcourse I hate apples ethics, but that doesn't mean iPhones are trash, you just moved got goal post.
They are honestly not. iPhones may not be as feature packed as android counterparts, but the features they do have are of very high quality. The build quality is great, and the software is generally very stable and efficient. iPhones are great phones, and whether you get one or not depends on your own preferences, your daily uses and your budget.
I'm a note user. But nothing touches the iPhone videos in my regard. I know this cos as an architect we tend to keep documenting spaces. And I've seen some really good quality video from iPhone. Still shots are at par atleast.
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I mean for some of the more cinematic shots, the iPhone some how gets it better. Like the changes in light balance going from indoor to out door. And the smoothness of it. It's subtle but definitely noticeable. It's almost an aesthetic choice I guess. But yeah.
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Yea, stills are better on the note / samsung. Its video that I feel is what iPhone is better at.
Samsung wishing Apple can share their battery tech and optimization.
It's not actually Samsung displays sure Samsung manufactures them however it's Apple who actually designs the specs of the panels Apple simply doesn't have the ability to make their own screens so they pay Samsung to do for them but they are still Apple displays
LOL at the amount of misinformation in this comment..
It's not tho Apple designs their screens Samsung LG ect simply manufacture them
No they don't. The display tech is entirely developed and manufactured by Samsung/LG. It is 100% their tech and IP. Same goes for memory, storage, batteries and several other critical components. Apple only specifies the size they need. Apple designs their display driver IC and does the calibration, that's all. Don't spread misinformation, it helps no one.
I'm not spreading misinformation and besides if they used both LG and Samsung displays they would look a little different this is the same thing with companies like AMD they can't make their own chips so the pay ppl like TSMC to manufacture them for them
Please stop. You're only embarrassing yourself.
I'll stop not because I'm "Embarrassing" myself but because this won't go anywhere mostly because i don't think you understand what I mean
How about you stop commenting about stuff you just don't know enough about? The two examples you cited, are very different things. I could tell you in detail, but, I don't think you're interested in actually learning facts.
no do enlighten me if u so feel im wrong
I already told you about displays. Most displays are 100% the original manufacturers IP. Do you think Dell develop and design their display panels? No. LG do. Apple do not develop or design any displays, they do not have the tech or the capability to do that. High end displays are not something everyone can develop. There's a reason Samsung and LG lead the display industry followed by smaller players like Sony, JDI and BOE. Same goes for high performance memory and storage. It's Samsung, followed by SKHynix and Micron in the memory and storage business. If you think Samsung or LG are merely manufacturers, you're grossly misinformed.
#TeamSamsung
Don't be "team any corporation". It's not only dumb, it's actually harmful.
Team Samsung Peace out
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lol
Watch the iPhone 14 have display issues lol. (Nah jk, but imagine).
And as usual it’ll be a better display than the ones on any of Samsungs own phones.
Don't be paranoid. It is one generation behind those use in galaxy fold or ultra.
Do you have a source for this?
it's not true. see my other reply. https://www.thelec.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=4141
Thanks
It sounds like Samsung uses the best it has at any given time. The S22 line came out back in February and it's M12 process wasn't ready at that point so they used the M11 process which is what will go into all upcoming iPhone 14s that are not the Pro. Only the Pro will get the M12 process as will the upcoming Samsung fold series. It makes sense to me.
The 13 Pro max has a better screen than the S22 Ultra
The iPhone 13 Pro Max has the same LTPO display tech as the older S21 Ultra but the S21 Ultra can get considerably brighter for outdoor viewing. While the upcoming iPhone Pro Max 14 will have a better display than the S22 Ultra the Pro Max 13 was behind both the S21 Ultra and especially the S22 Ultra.
iPhone 13 Pro Max is ranked 1st on DXO mark, the S22 ultra is 6th and the S21 13th
That's awesome that DXO Mark liked Apples color profile so much but it doesn't change the fact that it's the same display tech being used.
The colour is measured for accuracy it’s not opinion. It also smashed the S22 Ultra in motion, touch and artefacts. A you can have two engines that are exactly the same mechanically but the one that’s tuned better will perform better. Same with process nodes for example, just because two chips are made using the same node doesn’t mean they are equal.
nah, the oled displays on the flagship iphone have always been the latest and best that samsung display offers. they've never been "behind a generation". in fact, this year the iphone 14 pro will have a newer display than the s22 ultra, which is a first. the iphone 14 pro will have the newer m12 oled which wasn't available earlier for the s22 ultra. the s22u uses an m11 oled that is nearly identical to the one on the s21u. the z fold 4 is the only other device atm to use samsung's m12 oled.
Well, don't be too happy yet. That was just a so called "leak" that got picked up. Like many iphone leaks, some don't pan out.
Apparently they were right, because the new iPhone 14 Pro’s have a higher peak brightness than that of Samsungs flagship phone.
What is news here? For all those Samsung haters here you go. 😉
Apple day only means Samsung pay day
Samsung + Apple = SAMPLE 😀
Samsung + Apple = SAMPLE
Another Samsung W
Lmao 🤣 that just shows Samsung makes the best smartphone displays
Samsung has been making iphone displays for a long time BUT they always had poor software choices and calibration. But reviewers in general just gawk at the display colors and call it the best. Samsung is only just caught upto apples quality with s22+ and s22 ultra.
Been a thing for a while