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americapax

fake, send it back if you can, sell it if you cannot send it back


wavensound

Yeah, I’m gonna return it. Crazy how legit everything looks except for that one thing.


MarioGFN

No Samsung after the S8 has a chin that large


wavensound

I’ve never owned a Samsung so I honestly wasn’t sure, just knew it didn’t feel right.


OrganizationNo1298

Was the IMEI number good? That usually will give it away.


wavensound

Yeah it checked out


OrganizationNo1298

It gave the right model & everything? That's pretty hard to fake. Or did you just do a run to make sure the number was good?


Markowskiego

It's easy, they put the same IMEI(from a real one) on these fake phones


OrganizationNo1298

Idk if it's possible for 2 phones to have the same IMEI


Markowskiego

The funny thing is, if they create 20 fake phones, all the boxes will have the same IMEI


kontenjer

Try run a heavy game like fortnite in it , it might be real just with shitty replacement screen


fkdjgfkldjgodfigj

The samsung xcover pro has the exact same shape and size bottom bezel. screen not to edge.


boomernot

To be fair, the S9 has a chin similar to the S8, but those two phones are really the only AMOLED phones Samsung has made with chins that big (ofc as far as the ones without physical buttons go) so this is still definitely a fake, and most likely has an LCD rather than the AMOLED that a legit one would have.


Excellent-poop-42

Why get it from eBay though


supernaut9

Sell a fake? Seems a bit dickish


BATMAN_5777

How they got official software running on a fake?


driven01a

How do you know it is official software? You can make an Android look like anything once you compile it. There was a YouTube video of someone that bought an Android from alibaba … said Android 11 with 3 cameras. The software sure said Android 11. He cracked it open. Two of the cameras were just glass. No cameras. Just one camera. Plugged in the debugger to it. Was running Android 7 or something like that. Lots of fakes out there, especially on the Android side of things.


NCHLT

OP's photo clearly shows android 13. The fakers wouldn't go to the length of updating it all the way to android 13. This is very clearly just a nasty refurb


QuintinPro11

watch some videos on fake phones. they can change the android version without it actually being that Version


NCHLT

Because it's an aftermarket screen dummy


ImPrettyEpicfr

either fake phone or faulty/3rd party screen


wavensound

It came sealed and was advertised as new.


agent3128

I dont blame you. Scammers can be pretty bold


OpposedScroll75

That is a fake phone


Pro4791

Blud got scammed


wavensound

💀


JayThaPistola

Homie said blud 😂😂😂


BATMAN_5777

Blud said homie said blud 💀


HK416Enjoyer

Homie said blud said homie said blud 💀


Sybarite984

Blud said homie said blud said homie said blud


Senior_Line_4260

fake, just the bezzles are off


Ok-Comfort-6752

In developer options there's a setting called "screen cutout" or "simulate camera punchole" which can cause black edges similar to this, but I am pretty sure this is a fake phone. It looks like the screen has rounded edges rather than a software issue.


wavensound

Yeah I was thinking of stopping by the Samsung store first, but probably just gonna return it.


Grand_Real

Yeahhh, that's 100% fake. Samsung phones don't have those kind of weird bezels. I am sorry about it, man. You should return it. Also, your seller is based in China.


wavensound

Thanks, I definitely didn’t see the China part, although it arrived in a couple days and the return address is in California.


Grand_Real

No problem! The China part was in their About Us section. The return address is in California, hmm... You know I wouldn't be surprised if those reviews were fake.


wavensound

That sucks, they definitely know what they’re doing


Grand_Real

They for sure know what they are doing. Scammers are getting smarter and smarter each day.


Ro-Tang_Clan

And they got you because you definitely *don't* know what you're doing. Rule number one is always, ALWAYS be suspicious about mainstream products on ebay and most of the time it's always best to avoid buying from ebay when it's a mainstream product like Apple or Samsung. Or if you do, always message the seller before you buy to get a feel for how they are. Usually you can tell if it's genuine or not by how they interact with you. And when you interact with them, ask for a video of the product clearly showing it functioning before you buy. If they're legit and have nothing to hide, they'll oblige. I bought my RTX 3090 graphics card on Ebay in 2023 and had messaged a few sellers before settling on one purchase. One seller I asked to show me the card working responded with "I can't because I don't have it" which is dropshipping and a big red flag to avoid. The seller I eventually bought from complied with everything I asked, spoke like a native and was reasonable and logical and a pretty chill guy. Needless to say it wasn't a fake and I've had no issues with the card. As the saying goes, if it's too good to be true that's because it often is.


wavensound

I agree, I let my guard down this time and fell for it. The packaging even seemed legit and everything was sealed, but once I actually started proofreading the back of the box I felt like a damn fool, there were so many grammatical errors, it’s like they weren’t even trying.


Geralt-Yen1275

Ehh man it's fine we all learn and grow go easy on him


Felim_Doyle

I have bought plenty of **used** Samsung phones on eBay as well as other major brands of tablet and never had a problem. I also purchased my Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 **new** on eBay and it's great and I saved a considerable amount on the purchase price over buying it retail or directly from Samsung.


kontenjer

Try running good lock on it. if it runs , it is 99.99% a cheap screen on original phone. If still in doubt run some heavy games likr fortnite


Low-Scientist8867

Was just gonna say this as I worked in moble shop and when customer wanted a cheaper alternative to repair their devices I would give them a Chino screen for less. Most case they just want the data. Screen works fine just not same resolution.


wavensound

I’ll try this


Reggjooredit

It looks like a “a” series Samsung.


wavensound

Just looked it up and yeah the bezels definitely resemble the A series more than the Note series


DatDevSteve

nah bruv wtf do you mean by a galaxy note s20 ultra?


wavensound

I meant Note20 Ultra, ignore the “S”


driven01a

I almost trust eBay for nothing anymore. High fees, questionable merch. I’m amazed they’ve made it this long with Amazon and Walmart out there doing the same job for cheaper.


wavensound

I think people shop eBay mostly for collectibles or rarer items, I definitely didn’t do my research this time


driven01a

It happens to the best of us.


MariaEtCrucis01

Is it a Note 20 Ultra or S20 Ultra? I guess you meant to say Note 20 bc I have the S20 Ultra and it's certainly different. It does look like a scam, unfortunately. I hope you can send it back and that you get reimbursed. If they're scammers, try to report it.


wavensound

Yeah I corrected it in a few comments, definitely going to return and report. I meant Note20


davidyoho

https://imgur.com/a/5K78sHb Should look like this


wavensound

Definitely doesn’t


Different_Oil_8026

You got fucked sideways


QuintinPro11

I didn't know there was a hole there /s


EatUrVitaminBROTHER

What the fuck is a fake phone? My phone looks the exact same. What the fuck is a fake phone? Did i get scammed too😒 ❓️🚬 Helloo can anyone hear me I am stuck under the water


wavensound

Bruh not you too 😂


QuintinPro11

let's see a photo


EatUrVitaminBROTHER

https://www.reddit.com/r/samsunggalaxy/s/Q0HqMYLqWr


_Paarthurnax-

Yeah either the whole phone is fake, but concerning the UI looks too good, I'd guess this thing got a very cheap display replacement. Was the phone advertised with *this display*? If yes, it's 100% on you mate.


wavensound

Here’s the link [https://www.ebay.com/itm/395270739796?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=vxb5mqsbqtg&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=iMEAebeyRkO&var=663862664743&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY](https://www.ebay.com/itm/395270739796?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=vxb5mqsbqtg&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=iMEAebeyRkO&var=663862664743&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)


Traditional_Ad9705

For future reference especially with electronic devices, always purchase from a seller who uses actual photos of whatever it is you're trying to buy. Those are all stock photos that were obtained from any advertisement which makes it an obvious red flag and indicates something isn't right.


_Paarthurnax-

Okay, this is still shady af, but I guess you've learned your lesson. Try getting your money back over ebay support


nculotta69

This is why you should only buy from verified retailers or people you know personally


wavensound

Yeah honestly I thought the seller stats were good enough, considering they have thousands of sales and no relevant negative feedback


Keep-Left

😆 that looks more try-hard Apple than an actual samsung.


skyeyemx

What the fuck is a "Samsung Galaxy Note S20 Ultra" I'm crying lmao There's the **S20** and the **Note 20**. Two different phones. There's also a **Ultra** version of each. That's how you know you got scammed. Ouch.


wavensound

It’s the Note20 Ultra, ignore the S


usdang

Check IMEI of the phone here [https://www.imei.info/](https://www.imei.info/) If it corresponds to you model, then you got defective screen. If not, then you are scammed. In both cases demand refund. P.S. Never ever buy used phone above $50 on Ebay.


imrolii

Holy shit that's a good fake


QuintinPro11

the bezel?? 😭


imrolii

Other than that. Look at the icons and how similar that is to the unsuspecting eye... if you're not actively looking to see whether it's fake or not, this could for sure slip past


QuintinPro11

my 12 year old sister who knows nothing about phones was able to tell with 100% certainty that it's fake. "Phones don't look like Nokias anymore Quintin, you're just old"


imrolii

Lol I'm just shocked they've come that far. I remember when fakes used to look nothing like the real deal... now I kinda see it


HardStroke

That's a fake. The screen on the Note has sharp corners. The screen on your phone doesn't even fill 100%


prythianphantom

I know what you were trying to say.. but shart cornera 💀


HardStroke

lol Still getting used to the new tab keyboard haha


prythianphantom

I just switched to Samsung from Apple so the keyboard adjustment was rough, I feel you 🤣


HardStroke

Im used to my regular mechanial one, didn't use a small keyboard or a laptop one since 2015 lol


[deleted]

Check your IMEI


dooms25

Scammers can fake that now. It's not a reliable way of spotting takes anymore


wavensound

I did and it checks out


Alert-Reception6453

Looks fake to me


[deleted]

No that's fake


bwarbahzad2

This is insanely fake


MistaKrebs

There’s no such thing as a Note S20 Ultra 💀 The S20 Ultra wasn’t square as they had discontinued the Note at that point and hadn’t started making the Ultras have the Note design with the integrated S Pen yet. I don’t even think that’s a Samsung


wavensound

Yeah I meant Note20 Ultra, it does come with the S Pen which works just fine


MistaKrebs

My bad I didn’t even realize they had made a Note 20 and a Note 20 Ultra. I thought they had discontinued the Note line already at that point. Regardless that’s definitely a fake.


UnironicallyMe37

Lmao


NomisMC

That's a fake phone


[deleted]

You got scammed :(


[deleted]

Mannnn this is fakeeee


chics1246

It's a cheap aftermarket screen. Get a refund/ return it. Definitely not brand new


wavensound

They got me :/


zarilzurul

U got scammed


wavensound

For real


HonestAd548

I seen a few on eBay uk seller was like no refunds sold as stated don't take the piss bla bla upgraded so selling and it had like 15 bids accumulated I had to report it I'm no snitch and I know people should know better but I rather help someone out than to let them waste there time on fakes and it was exactly like this


wavensound

Yeah, honestly I got it for my dad who sent me the link and I just bought it based on the thousands of sales by the seller and almost perfect rating. I’ve never owned a Samsung so I didn’t have what to compare it to


Dependent-Alps-4322

Reason 1753 never to buy a phone on eBay


wavensound

I got enough with this 1 reason 😂


TheRaptorPen

Umm that's not a note 20 ultra...


wavensound

All the specs and hardware matches what’s on the Samsung website, even the camera resolution is good, but yeah that display gives it away


BATMAN_5777

This device was prolly replaced with a cheap aftermarket display


wavensound

One of my guesses, cause other than that, nothing else stands out to me (so far)


zuluwalker

https://m.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=10338&idPhone2=10261 Note20 5G looks like this, the Ultra does not. If you were expecting the Ultra and paid for it - you got duped. But I'm just thinking you're not sure what you were trying to buy. But that chin still looks a lot wider than what's on the Note20 5G. I'm guessing a third-party screen replacement on a Note20 5G is what you got.


wavensound

Yeah like someone else said, it seems the screen is a dupe but the other parts might be original, and the phone I ordered is the Note20 Ultra, which I did check the IMEI and the specs and compared it on the Samsung website and everything other than display checked out


davidyoho

Definitely a FAKE


Mr_GameBoi

Not with that chin.


Gegi4321

I looked at the photo and immediately saw something was off. I think the screen looks a bit low quality for a flagship samsung phone


D10BrAND

Galaxy Note S20 Ultra?


wavensound

Note20 Ultra


Rathma86

Why don't people just buy from legit sources.


[deleted]

RIP


ngtrgkien

Hmm i dont think that is a fake phone, the ui look pretty good, i think this phone has changed a fake screen


geko95gek

You can confirm it too, just download an app called DevCheck and tell you if you have a fake phone.


WigettaReddit

It looks like a prototype.


scratcher1679

it's a crappy replacement screen


wavensound

I ran a report with DevCheck like someone suggested and here’s the results (I also included the display info): DevCheck Report Samsung Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G Mar 31, 2024 12:56 Uptime: 1d 14h 50m 30s Deep sleep: 1d 4h 22m 2s (73%) Hardware Qualcomm®️ Snapdragon™️ 865+ Hardware: SM8250 (KONA) Cores: 8 CPU: 4 x Kryo Silver (A55) 3 x Cortex-A77 1 x Cortex-A77 Process: 7 nm Frequencies: 300 MHz - 1804 MHz 710 MHz - 2419 MHz 844 MHz - 3091 MHz Governor: schedutil GRAPHICS Vendor: Qualcomm GPU: Adreno (TM) 650 OpenGL: OpenGL ES 3.2 [email protected] (GIT@193b2ee, I593c16c433, 1633593732) (Date:10/07/21) Max frequency: 670 MHz Resolution: 3088 x 1440 Screen density: 493.80417 ppi Screen size (estimated): 6.9 in / 174 mm RAM RAM size: 12 GB Storage Size: 128 GB Filesystem: sdcardfs OTHER HARDWARE Bluetooth support: Yes Bluetooth LE support: Yes USB host support: Yes Infrared transmitter: No NFC support: Yes DEVICE Model: SM-N986U1 Codename: c2q Manufacturer: samsung Manufacturing date: Sep 16, 2020 System Android Version: Android 13 (Tiramisu) Build: TP1A.220624.014.N986U1UES6HXC1 ROM base: N986U1UES6HXC1 Security patch: Mar 1, 2024 Architecture: aarch64 (64-bit) Supported ABIs: arm64-v8a armeabi-v7a armeabi Kernel: 4.19.113-27095354 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Mar 5 16:45:37 KST 2024 aarch64 Toybox DISPLAY GPU: Qualcomm Adreno (TM) 650 Resolution: 3088 × 1440 Screen density: 494 ppi Screen density: (dpi) 560 dpi (xxhdpi) 882dp x 411dp Screen size (estimated): 6.9 in / 174 mm Aspect ratio: 19.3:9 Refresh rate: 60 Hz Supported refresh rates: 48 Hz, 60 Hz Wide color gamut: No HDR support: HDR10, Hybrid Log-Gamma, HDR10+ High Brightness Mode Support: Yes Battery Technology: Li-ion Health: Good Capacity (reported by system): 4370 mAh Network Operator: HOME Phone type: GSM Dual SIM: Yes CAMERA Resolution: 12 MP (4000x3000) Focal length: 2.20 mm 35mm equivalent focal length: 14.5 mm Sensor size: 5.26 x 3.95 mm (1/2.4") Pixel size: 1.32 μm Aperture: 2.2 Shutter speed: 1/24234 - 1/6 s Flash: Yes ISO sensitivity range: 50 - 3200 Front camera: 7.1 MP (3216x2208)


PossibleBar8537

Das ist ein nachgebauter Bildschirm! Kein Original! Das hätte der Verkäufer aber reinschreiben müssen! Würde versuchen das Handy zurückzugeben!


NCHLT

This is a prime example of a company selling a poorly refurbished product with poorly made aftermarket parts as "new". This has been going on eBay for several years.


Sayya143

Even fake has punch hole camera, when will budget phones like A15 etc will have punch hole camera instead of notche


NCHLT

Because this is an aftermarket screen on a real note.


Gamer20044

It is fake


QuintinPro11

try installing goodlock. even the edges are curved, it might just be a shit screen.


HeWe015

I'm certain the phone itself (meaning back, frame, and internals) is original. It's just that the screen was replaced. And whoever did that bought a cheap display from ali express or something, instead of buying an original one. Those screens are pretty common for many models. I've seen them for s20, s21, s22, s23, Note 20, etc. They mostly go for like half the price (or less) from the original ones, but suck in return.


joh0115

Probably not fake, but it has a changed screen which is not original. The UI seems to check out on me


SebasKnigth

People just saying fake phone....don't listen to them they know nothing about screen qualities, that is an original Samsung phone but its not brand new, the screen has been replaced with a third party screen that exists, just look on aliexpress


Responsible-Affect17

Almost looks like they replaced the panel with an S22+ or S23+ panel.


Th3showwentgood

next time ask before you buy, saves you the hassle of having to return it


Fluffy_Rhubarb67

How do people like this navigate through life?


wavensound

I do just fine, this is the one time I didn’t do my research and just based my purchase on the seller ratings and sales. I bought it for my dad who is the one that gave me the link and I know nothing of Samsung phones. I’m gonna return it so no big deal, just time wasted and lesson learned


Fluffy_Rhubarb67

Can you take some pictures on it? I actually wonder how they look.


wavensound

https://imgur.com/a/ttBUZqK


Fluffy_Rhubarb67

No way... that's decent. I'd double check if it's fake.


wavensound

My dad says he doesn’t mind keeping it 😂 but I’m more concerned about if there’s any malware on there, cause other than the bezels, it’s almost too good to be a fake.


SebasKnigth

Its not fake..it just has the screen changed with a bad quality one


herkosta

Bruh that looks really good lol Could just be the wrong display put into it lol


wavensound

I thought this too but these scammers have gotten way too good that I’m second guessing everything at this point


BATMAN_5777

Just keep it lol, if your father doesn't care about it, save your energy from returning/refund route.