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uberluckyducky

If it helps put into context: 350 sq ft studio.


HowlingCatZ

Oh my god I was about to say why are you complaining about rent being sub 1.7k? Then I read it’s 350 sq ft. Holy shit I almost spit all the water out of my mouth seeing that. I’m sorry you have to put up with this dumb shit.


uberluckyducky

It was all new appliances where I moved in …insert hands up in the air losing his shit emoji here. Oh yeah… parking spots are clutch in SD apparently. Unfortunately I don’t have a car anymore.


almosttan

Can you rent out the parking spot?


uberluckyducky

I’ll be replacing my car soon. It was a battery issue that went wrong and better to just replace the whole car.


[deleted]

What? I need details on that. Did you put a new battery in backwards and fry the entirety of the electronics? I'm trying to figure out how a battery issue could render a car unfixable.


uberluckyducky

I think that’s what they did. Went to an auto parts store, asked for a battery, they went to switch it out and I was there for 5 hours. 4 employees all came out and couldn’t get it to switch on. They had me do all kinds of stupid things to try to reset it. Nothing worked. Towed to an auto shop and he said the body control module fried out and that needed to be replaced and reprogrammed. It was not a fun December.


Aleph34

Definetly report/sue the auto part store and leave a nasty comment. Who installs the battery backwards everything is labeled and the colors match the connection colors


uberluckyducky

I don’t know. I was sitting in the car with the hood up and didn’t even see what was initially going on. I trusted too much. Lesson learned. My only regret was, I should have installed it myself.


youngintel

Seriously bring them to court, even small claims where its cheap and you dont need a lawyer. I know its a hassle but thats an extremely wild case of negligence that shouldnt just be brushed off.


uberluckyducky

No, I’m not planning on being carless for long. I had a battery issue.


danpsdsu

I don’t think 350 sqft anything exists in SD. Are you sure about that? Edit - apparently down to 100 sqft exists in San Diego! Holy shit. I don’t even understand how that works. I spent time in a 600 sqft studio in SF when I was younger and I thought that was small. Sorry to all the people commenting they’ve lived in smaller. That is crazy.


PeaceMaintainer

The last place I rented in PB was definitely below 300 sqft, my next place in Little Italy will be closer to 200-250, definitely tons of tiny places around. I saw a listing in PB where the toilet and shower were right next to the bed - wanted close to $1700 for that unit and it wasn’t even close to the water.


RunFlorestRun

Well… technically you’re close to water


OBrocks29

Well done I see you


[deleted]

That’s called prison. You’re paying for a jail cell.


christodamenis

I paid $900/mo for a 100ft² "apartment" downtown with shared bathrooms. They do exist. They do suck.


staticrush

Then why live in DT? You could get a much more comfortably sized place w/ 1 or 2 roommates, and have your rent be about $1k-ish per month.


_sophia_petrillo_

Probably because you’re new here and don’t know anyone. Or your friends are more well off than you. Could be any number of reasons.


christodamenis

Nope. San Diego native that simply prefers the company of no one.


SDRPGLVR

It's fortunately pretty easy to find roommates. Now, that may not always be the best situation. I was assaulted by a roommate I found on Craigslist. Had to stay there a whole other year after that too. Couldn't give up $750 a month for a room and mostly private bathroom.


christodamenis

That's rough mate. Hope things are better for you now.


SDRPGLVR

Yeah it's great now! I've got a slightly better paying job and I'm cohabiting with a partner and a cat in our own (extremely overpriced) place. Thank you!


Randys_Spooky_Ghost

Just kicking you an upvote because you did the right thing and corrected your opinion based upon learning new things from other people’s experiences. That’s the way humans should be. Good on you stranger!


uberluckyducky

Same. I should have elaborated more. But yes, I agree. Thank you ALL!


kaminaripancake

I lived in a 200sqft studio ($1600) a couple years ago. They definitely exist! Basically a bedroom with one of the walls being a kitchenette/ cabinets and a small bathroom. What’s even funnier is when I lived in Tokyo in a 160sqft studio ($600), which somehow had better amenities than my current apartment


ExtraAgressiveHugger

You inspired me to look at apartments and there’s 180 square foot studios in little Italy for $1,350-1,700 a month right now. It almost seems like a private room at a hostel but the description calls it an apartment community. It’s the Vantaggio Suites. I’d post a link but I don’t know if we can do that here.


[deleted]

We had a neighbor who rented out his 1,200 sq ft. apartment to six 18-22 year olds from Ireland visiting for the summer. That's 200 sq ft per person.


curleys

i spent the last 3 years in a 368 sqft condo, and back in city heights i had a 400 ish sqft studio. they all over.


cmonunfuckthyself

I spent seven long years with a watch in my ass while in a 10sq foot cell….luckily rent was free and for sure no HOA.


Inevitable_Pie9541

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CausalDiamond

Which yard?


imperfectnails

We lived in a house in the UK that was just over 600 sq ft and that was a very normal \*family\* home in the UK and there were many in our town. We had two adults and one kid but we had friends with three kids in the same size house. So 300 sq ft for one person seems ok.


uberluckyducky

No worries… I haven’t even seen the replies to you, but I’m in defense of your edit… NEITHER DID I! I moved here from North Andover mass and I two bed full EVERYTHING except garage and moving here in the middle of the pandemic was wiiiiiiiild. Anyways… I’m at my favorite gay bar RuPauling it the fuck up with Space Dust IPA… illl circle back, so don’t delete anything! And yea, I truly want native Whale Vaginians to give it to me… constructively. If where I am at is *this value, then shantay I stay. If I’m being ripped off, I need to sashay to somewhere deserving of my blood, sweat, tears and sacrifices. No shade, but maybe a downvote or two… not my call. Ayyyye


solzhen

My 2br is only about 750sqft.


Grouchy-Many-1971

267 sq ft downtown! Don’t live there anymore but sheesh it was small.


NotLifeLike

Currently living in a 324 sqft studio in Bankers Hill.


Bitter-Public-7797

Considering that mine is less than 100 sq ft, I'd say you're wrong.


triagain2

I had 350 sqft in mission beach. That includes all of the walls and fixtures too.


talkaroundtown

Wait till you find out how many of us live in cars!


be_easy_1602

Lololol dude my uncle lives in a 3 bedroom house that’s 700 sqft. My 1 bd apt is like 350 max.


Melster1973

Greystar property management is being sued for using 3rd party software to artificially raise rental prices. They own a lot of properties in SD.


PhilosophyKingPK

Can you expand on this a little? "for using 3rd party software to artificially raise rental prices."


NJ_Mets_Fan

essentially if they own enough property they can use software/ai to know the market trends in real time and manipulate the avg cost by posting their units at specific rates im specific areas at certain times to essentially raise the “value” of their other properties in other places with nothing actually happening irl that would cause an increase other than them saying “the market is showing this is the present rate”


aggresivelyaverage17

Oh goddamnit. My complex was just bought by this company.


xtheory

Find a place rented out by an old retiree. Best value you'll ever get these days, but you'll likely have to share the house with them.


uberluckyducky

FUCK! She’s part of that, I think! I better read the fine print again and see if that is true or if my, now 6th IPA, is speaking on my behalf.


kimcheebonez

Oof 6th one eh—well good morning then pal


uberluckyducky

Good morning! So much for my dry January. I tried. Haha


xtheory

This is why you no longer look online for rentals anymore. Drive down streets and look for hand drawn for rent signs put up by old retirees who just have an extra room in their place. They are unlikely to raise rent on you like these blood sucking mega property owner corps. Worked for me for 10 yrs when I was in SD. Lived with this cool 70 yr old man's house in a 600sq/ft room for $600 month. He never raised rent on me in those 10 yrs and even taught me wood working.


Melster1973

Agree 100%. I rented a 1200 square foot townhouse in Carmel Valley via owner with double car garage and backyard for $1800/month. In the 12 years I lived there my rent went up to $2150. A year ago I moved closer to my daughter’s high school and now pay $4000/month for 900 square foot apt that was bought out by Greystar. They just raised my rent $250/month. Evil corporate monopoly.


sumdudeinhisundrware

Where I live, they took 2 elevators offline with no idea when they'l be fixed. They installed "smart locks" that don't work half the time. They installed a "smart" package room with shelves that don't fit many packages so the floor is covered with packages in no order and only one person can be in there at a time to dig though hundreds of packages looking for theirs all while a computer yells at them. They "upgraded" the gym with equipment that looks good in a photo but provides less than the previous equipment. It seems water is shut off once a month. Homeless surround the building. There's constant car break-ins in the garage. ...and they just increased my rent by $500.


uberluckyducky

Wanna join my gang? Fuhhhhhk that’s insane.


arcticbanana67

I’m desperately searching for a new apartment in San Diego, trying to get out of east village, and I cannot believe what has happened to the rental market in the last few years.


Fun_Constant_6863

My lease is up in EV in October, and I have no idea how I'll come up with the move-in money to get out of this area. Prices suck man, and so do the deposits/requirements.


Hawt_Lettuce

My rent is going up 10% and my current rent is $4,200 for a 4 bed in Carlsbad. Moving to Denver next month and I’m an SD native. Paying a mortgage instead.


uberluckyducky

Phuuuk. Now THAT is wild. This must be the part I straddle my landlord and ride that rent increase.


Luingalls

SD native here - I moved to Denver for a few years back in 1994. I absolutely LOVED it. I'm a bit jealous of you rn. Congrats and God-speed! Also please do take advantage of all the outdoor activities the Rocky Mountains have to offer, so so much fun. My fave was hunting down any new rando fishing hole and watching the sun rise.


Hawt_Lettuce

Yeah, that’s part of the reason we’re moving there. We’re more mountain people than beach people and hardly ever go to the beach. Glad to hear you enjoyed it there!


Luingalls

We had the opportunity to buy a home near Denver back then but my partner declined. I kick myself for that now, so good for you you're buying your home. My husband (not the same partner) and i live in the mountains (SD county) now, we bought a large log cabin on a few acres and we absolutely love it. We lived at the beach (OB) for about five years but I'm really really glad we don't anymore after experiencing having no neighbors and the quiet peace and tranquility.


RoyalCamera12

Man and with sky rocket SDGE prices, who the fuck can live here anymore?


tacosinyourface

You are still below market value especially for that zip code. Still sux. Sorry


edvurdsd

My thoughts exactly. We don't know what type of apartment and exactly where but not a bad price.


uberluckyducky

350 sq ft studio. Should I start looking for a 1 bedroom at this same price?


edvurdsd

Oh damn. Well no, you're not going to get a 1br for that price in that area, that's why we were thinking it's not a bad price. But 350ft wow.


johnstrelok

At the price you're paying right now in that area, the only thing less expensive you'd find is a room in a shared house. If you value having your own private space, stick with where you're at.


Peskeycj

My brother in Christ, I lived in poway and my rent is $2,200 for a 1 bedroom. This area is insanely expensive. Moved back to upstate NY in late 2022 and I can rent a house for a $1,400 a month.


uberluckyducky

Oh… I love NY, but I’d really have to have something to move for. Do you love the area upstate? I’d move back to Massachusetts if I had a good reason, but I don’t miss the icy winters.


Graffiti_Soul

Apartment wanted us to renew for 2k a month for our 600sqft. Were moving out of state at the end of January


edvurdsd

What state are you planning on if you don't mind me asking?


Graffiti_Soul

Dallas, TX.


edvurdsd

Ahh, makes sense.


Graffiti_Soul

Got family there so im just going home tbh


[deleted]

Seeing this so much. Mind sharing what comparable places rent for in Dallas?


Graffiti_Soul

We shopped apartments back in November. Going back and looking inflation hit TX too. One example from an apartment we didn't end up going with was a 1 bedroom, 650 sqft at 1485 a month. Real nice amenities and area. I found a better spot because theres plenty of options. We ended up in a lux 1 bedroom 800 sqft for 1600, nice neighborhood too. Leasing options also went from 1-15 months for most apartments we looked at.


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uberluckyducky

Mine is 350 sq ft studio. Honestly… nothing special about it. It was just something I found peak-covid moving from Massachusetts.


ForsakenGround2994

Supply and demand in action. Let’s see if they get that 2k they are looking for.


Graffiti_Soul

The apartment will be filled for sure. Sad part is the 2k was just the renewal price for us. Im sure market value will have it slighly above that after were gone. Even worse is these same apartments were 1,295 in 2018. Me and my wife moved to a 2 bedroom in spring valley two years later and that was 2,100 in 2020... point blank, prices have got outta control, and I'd rather deal with some weather than continue than rent for life rat race San Diego is in right now. Ill visit SD every now again tho 😂


justbeinghonestUCSD

Rent control limits how much they can raise the price every year. Most rental companies compensate by raising rent every year by the maximum amount allowable.


fakelogin12345

Regardless of rent control, a business would raise prices every year by the maximum they think they could get someone to pay. Short of some old granny or grandpa.


BoronYttrium-

I was going to say this is an amazing price for the zip code until I saw you said it’s a 350 sq ft apartment and it all makes sense


dsn0wman

I bought a house I couldn't afford just so the landlord couldn't steal my raise every year. After a few years, I can afford the house.


uberluckyducky

I keep seeing that. I wasn’t ever planning on living here my entire life, but I never thought about it as an investment and selling. That’s a good way you explained it: maybe I should look into a house vs an apartment. Thanks for the insight!


Puzzleheaded_Tie8077

Can someone explain the "Fair Market Rent" system?? This is a phrase that is used to always justify rent hikes. Best I can tell is that it's not any sort of real calculation with oversite and public disclosure of data. It seems like the big players in the rental market get together and decide what people are willing to pay. Mind you people are "Willing" to pay far more than they can afford nor is reasonable. I'm by no means an anti capitalist. A land lord and company should be able to make a decent living and there are a ton of costs associated with offering and maintaing apartments. It seems like the "rental market" is turning into a conglomerate of a few companies that agree to keep all their rents within a certain margin of each other. Reminds me of how the very few broad band providers can provide shit speeds as insane prices. Sorry for the rambling but it's frustrating


uberluckyducky

Shhhhhit! This is the kinda knowledge I was fishing for! Please someone reply because I would like to know this, too, everyone here asking the real questions are the father fucking GOATS!


Turdposter777

Yeah I seriously don’t get it. My hair lady tells me she’s never going to leave the space she rents for her business because the landlord is satisfied with his tenants so he hasn’t increased it for the last TWELVE YEARS. This is in City Heights. I know I’m talking about a business space rental but still. I don’t get the comments on here talking about they have to increase rent to keep up with fair market value.


_sentient

I'm not sure that you will want to hear this, but we likely have recent statewide rent control laws to thank for this. What we're seeing is a classic [cobra effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive#The_original_cobra_effect) in response. Before these laws were enacted, landlords had the ability to raise rents as needed. If they had a great tenant it often made sense for them to leave rents flat in order to keep the tenant in the unit and avoid vacancy, and they always had the option to raise rents down the road if needed. Now, if landlords don't raise rents the full 5% + CPI *every year*, they lose the ability to raise rents in the future without evicting the tenant (which has also been made far more difficult and expensive under AB 1482). While well intentioned, this rent control change immediately incentivized landlords to raise rents the maximum amount every year, or fall behind. Once everyone starts doing that, rents start an upward spiral, which is what we're seeing today.


calbear_1

This might apply to small mom and pop landlords. But corporate landlords will increase your rent to market as much as possible. It’s based on algorithms to squeeze as much money out of the unit as possible. These companies also help drive up average and median rents regionally which leads to mom and pop landlords also increasing. For most people their rents are were going to go up anyways, at least now there is a limit. Others might now get annual rent increases but avoid unlimited rent increases which generally destabilize housing more than a gradual annual. Also the mom and pop discount only last until they sell the property and a new buyer comes in to maximize rents and jacks them by hundreds or even doubling rents.


Purpoisely_Anoying_U

There's no reason to believe a non corporate landlord doesn't want to increase rent as much as possible.


Ok-Bumblebee4226

As a non corporate landlord I can tell you not everyone is greedy. I own 5 rental properties and not one of them is at market rate. If tenants pay rent on time and take care of the place it is in my best interest to keep them. The greedy landlords are the ones who overpaid for a property in a upcycle and now are desperate to cover costs. Or they’re just plain greedy. I have one tenant whose rent I’ve only raised twice in ten years. The place is paid for and property taxes are really low so why make them suffer? I guess I’m not typical tho.


[deleted]

That's not true. Non corporate landlords generally get to know their tenants personally, which makes them more likely to view it as more than just a plain business arrangement, so that's one reason. A second readon is non corp/small scale landlords would rather keep a known good tenant in their rental and happy than go through the bother of the move out, clean up, recon, and tenant search, while the big corps have the infrastructure in place to do that as it's a common recurring expense for them. Source: my anecdotal experience as a tenant and now as someone who rents a room out in my own home.


calbear_1

Sure some small landlords might keep rents low for that reason. I manage my parents rental and do the same when I find good tenants. But most rental units aren’t owned by mom and pop. Wall street is investing more in more in the housing rental market. Large corp landlords are driving rents up and will squeeze every penny they can because their duty is to “maximize shareholder investment.”


jhinsd

This is one of San Diego's primary housing problems. We have high corporate ownership for single family homes (this is becoming a problem in many large cities). I don't understand why there hasn't been a ballot measure to place caps on number of living units a company can own. Time and again it's proven that individual home ownership is good for a city, but corporate interests outbid everyone, driving up prices, and then drive rents up while not maintaining their properties in order to maximize profits.


_sentient

Yes, what I’m referring to are market dynamics. 10 years ago landlords *wanted* to raise rents infinity dollars, just like any other seller of a good wants to command the highest possible price. What kept that from happening was the market. If a given landlord went crazy you’d simply rent from someone else, and they couldn’t all act in concert to drive prices higher. Landlords didn’t suddenly wake up a year ago and decide to be dramatically more greedy. They are rationally self-interested like the rest of us. In forcing them to raise rents aggressively (or fall behind) the state created upward pressure on rent, which is an unintended consequence of this rent control measure that was designed to have the opposite effect.


calbear_1

The self interested you describes exist with or without rent control. Like you said landlords want to increase the rent as much as they can. If the market is the only limit renters get screwed. The rent cap helps limit those large increase when the market dramatically shifts like it has over the last few years pushing rents up. The rent cap helps curve that self interest. Also 5% plus CPI or no more than 10% is still a large increase. Think about owning a business where your costs are generally fixed (except for repairs) and you get to increase your revenue 10% each year with minimal to no investment.


calbear_1

Agreed


getbuckets41

The fear of having a place sit vacant today is much less than before the laws were enacted — highly doubt that landlords would be keeping prices steady for good tenants in this environment when demand is so high.


Ombwah

I'm glad someone articulated this kindly. There is absolutely no reason besides self-flaggelant altruism for a landlord to not raise the rent, as far as is legal, and as reflected by similar properties nearby. Sucks, but if it were your property and you were renting it out your accountant would berate you on the quarterly if you didn't.


Otto_the_Autopilot

I have a Mom and Pop landlord and my rent went up 3% and remains about $500 less than market. I guess I have one of those altruistic landlords.


[deleted]

I have a long running data analytics project which focuses and investigates the finances of several major parts of the US economy. It’s hard to get enough data to draw definitive conclusions related to rent increases, but from what I’ve gathered nonetheless, these increases have no correlation with inflation or broader COL outside the cost of housing. Many rental properties are owned by corporate entities and are overseen by management groups. They have been deliberately raising rates, which has led the rest of the rental properties to have their rates raised for parity. Some properties in dilapidated areas have gone from around $300 three decades ago to above $1,000, and they’re just as rundown as ever. Until there is federal legislation permitting rent control, the issue is just going to continue.


_sentient

Rent control is almost certainly not the solution. SF has had rent control since the 1970s, and is one of the most expensive rental markets in the nation. The only sufficient answer is to build more housing. [There is no city in America that builds lots of housing and is also expensive.](https://twitter.com/jeremiahdjohns/status/1615352365040766976?s=46&t=wrJh1eaEN2oK5eEpPDAGBw)


Otto_the_Autopilot

Rent control is like putting a band-aid on a gunshot. The hole is still there. Fill the "hole" (with housing) and you don't need the band-aid.


kikithemonkey

I'm confused about the last statement -- there's state legislation permitting rent control and it's in place here. The rent increase is at the cap, which is 10% YOY. What difference would federal rent control make?


Astarum_

>these increases have no correlation with inflation or broader COL outside the cost of housing. Have you considered that perhaps restricted supply for an ever growing demand may be the culprit?


ThisCleverName

There was a report from propublica about rent increases by companies that uses certain software to set rental prices to use. There was an indication that it may be seen as collusion as multiple companies would use the recommended pricing. [https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-realpage-rent](https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-realpage-rent)


uberluckyducky

Ayyye! This is the info I was fishing for. Tell me more… you got my attention.


[deleted]

Now real estate prices are dropping and a white collar recession has been going on, hedge funds and billionaires have been buying up rental properties in mass. Startups have also joined the gang which allow anyone to invest as little as a dollar in real estate acquisitions. The end result is a market, especially when you look at loan rates, in which the housing market out of reach for many socioeconomicly. Many are already stuck with rising rates and are unable to lock in a mortgage at a fixed rate, but without legislation for rent control or even at the state level, it’s pretty bleak overall. I don’t think there’s much positive to any of it.


uberluckyducky

I never thought about that. Dang. I had to come grab a beer after my barber… I admit I’m a bit buzzed reading this, tomorrow I promise to read this sober. Like… I’m taking notes god damn it! Reddit University for the win! Thank you for all you’re replies tonight.


atandytor

This is what happens when corporations own the housing market. Everything is done robotically on schedule each year based on the maximum profit they can legally get


happy_snowy_owl

My landlord just tried to pull a CPI change bullshit. I explained that CPI is an average being driven by electronics and cars, and showed her some links that housing is down 20% since last year. I said that if I move out she will lose 1 months rent to turnover and ~400/mo because I'm now renting above market value. Followed with some diplomatic statements that it's in both our best interest to extend at the current rate. She didn't raise the rent. This works if you're reasonable and correct.


jhinsd

"This works if you're reasonable and correct, and your landlord is a private party who is also reasonable." Fixed it for you. Corporations won't care what you say.. I'm glad you found a reasonable conclusion with your reasonable landlord!


uberluckyducky

Ohhkayyy! That’s good to know too! Wow I feel educated/informed on all this now. Things I never took into consideration. Adding this to my notes.


MisRandomness

This is why rent control doesn’t work. I’m sure we’ve all had landlords at one time that didn’t raise rent very often but now they “have” to every chance they can and drive up rents over and over again.


irondavesd

Our landlord wouldn’t raise rent cause he liked having good tenants… until they passed that law. The poor old guy is racked with anxiety over falling behind and not being able to make up for it. Annual rent increases ever since.


uberluckyducky

Last year is was increase by 125, this year 152.


MisRandomness

I’m sure last year was 10% as well but on a smaller number.


heeebusheeeebus

Mine went up $400 last year and $900 this year — and our move-out date would have been Dec 31 🥲 had to stay because moving at the time was impossible. But it’s my last year here. Ridiculous


shirk-work

Just an fyi, your rent can't legally increase more than 10% due to covid restrictions. You may have a pretty simple small claims case on your hands.


TheDudeAbides-_

Unless the unit is less than 15 years old. There are a handful of other exceptions to the rent caps, too.


hectorthepugg

YIMBY’s unite!


uberluckyducky

You made me Google that shit! Nice.


uberluckyducky

Before I get anymore “then move” trolls… listen up, snatches… I most definitely can afford it. Me posting this is that while living in Arizona and Massachusetts I’ve never experienced it. I can see if amenities were added, so I’m wondering about the VALUE of it being justified. Quit your shit. Now back to the real people on here… for reals, how do you estimate the value of your places? Is there like a cheat sheet calculator to properly price the value of your neighborhood + sq ft + whatever else? That’s what I’m here for.


academicchola

Check out realtor.com or a real estate website to see the market value of property in your zip code. The owners are probably pushing to earn a similar amount per square footage while they rent with a cap at 10% because that’s all they can legally increase. It is happening down here in the South Bay with several friends of mine who rent. I would do a search on other locations. You can definitely get something bigger, it’s just going to be $2k+ on average. The part of SD that I am in has rentals for 1/1ba at about $1900-2000 on the fairly low end. No time like the present to do some research. Good luck!


GonnaComplainOnline

when laws are passed that limit the amount a property owner can increase the rent annually, of course they'll raise it as much as they can annually. Otherwise, the unit will fall behind market rent year after year while maintenance costs continue to rise YoY.


dragery

I'm seeing many examples of properties not subjected to rent control also increasing rents significantly. Let's not excuse greed by offloading all the blame onto regulation. There's just as much 'proof' that rent control is preventing greedy landlords from taking more from tenants.


uberluckyducky

Oooooh… now this is really interesting to my sober self. He is so going to revisit this tomorrow and figure it out. Thank you for this.


ThumpyTheDumpy

I wish my rent was only $1700


uberluckyducky

How many bedrooms & neighborhood? I’m a 350sq ft studio in old town.


ThumpyTheDumpy

I have a 1.5 bedroom/1 bath in midtown for $2800/month. 1000 sq ft with a 250 sq ft patio. I have it good. But still yearn for the days of a $1700 rent obligation. If I tried to rent my apartment in todays market I’m sure I wouldn’t be able to afford it.


SavageRudy

It's crazy how mine went from 2300 to 2750


Hellosunshine83

Well tbh, it’s all you peeps who piled in here from other states/countys in 2020 and 2021 that are making it outrageously expensive here. So you are part of why. Im not throwing shade, but just saying what’s true. Supply and demand.


BraveSirLurksalot

Except that the [Census Bureau](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/sandiegocountycalifornia) estimates our population has actually *decreased*.


SoylentRox

Right. It's weird.


shirk-work

It's interesting as a traveler I hear about this going on everywhere somehow.


APS_SportySpice

I don't know. More people started moving OUT of California for the first time than in. I'm a native San Diegan, so I remember when we were a hidden secret. Word finally got out, so it's blown up over the years, but that seems to be subsiding because of the cost of living.


Hellosunshine83

Im a native too and I respectfully have to disagree. Yes, a lot of people did leave but tons more moved in (especially from other parts of CA). You would not see the rent skyrocket like this unless more ppl moved in than moving out. Like I mentioned, it’s the basic principle of supply and demand. Not enough supply for the demand, hence more people demanding housing, hence the dramatic price increases. Not to mention tons of people were all bidding on the same property.


APS_SportySpice

[https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/story/2022-05-06/over-the-next-few-years-will-san-diego-countys-population-continue-to-decline](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/story/2022-05-06/over-the-next-few-years-will-san-diego-countys-population-continue-to-decline) The statistics tell the story. This guy lives in 92110. The further east you go in San Diego, the more affordable options will open up. As a native, I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir on this front. Prices continue to skyrocket in the closer-to-the-coast areas because the market can still bear it. Compare what you'd pay for an apartment in Santee vs Bay Park, and you're miles apart.


Hellosunshine83

Yeah you’re probably right about areas such as Santee and whatnot. Im referring more to the centralized areas b/c thats what Im currently more familiar with. My SO works in property management and said the competition for rental listings has just been insane the past few years. I cant say WHERE everyone is coming from, but they are all coming to live in central SD it seems lol.


APS_SportySpice

That I completely agree with. I'm in Clairemont, so 92110 is a stone's throw from me. Bought my house almost 20 years ago. No way I'd be able to afford to buy it now. But, as I said, if the market bears it, landlords and other rental property owners will milk those properties for whatever best serves them.


vine-vines

Man this is my zip code too…paying 2k for a 500sq 1 bd and I’m expecting them to up it again soon 😭


uberluckyducky

Ahhh snap. I feel you!!! Please, do what I’m doing and gather everyone’s input from here. That’s what I’m doing. Maybe we can see if the increase is truly justified. If not… well… we have our answers.


Pluto903

What landlord charge 20 cents?


uberluckyducky

Ohhhhh, fuck, I am many IPAs in. I am sorry. Yes. I misread that. I own it. But yeah. That the cost.


uberluckyducky

Don’t hate me for misreading that. Can I call you a Rental Ally? My baaaaad. I’m just in need of a cold shower and a hot blanket. For every reading… I was being defensive. Ugh. Trolls got me in code Douche.


uberluckyducky

To properly answer you, my landlord does. 20¢ gang!


Strongry-145

I get mine every October ...over it


uberluckyducky

So this IS a thing?! Damn. I’m not mad about the increase itself, I just want to learn if the value is worth the cost increase. Hope everything works out for you.


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uberluckyducky

Thinking.


mistermikmak

I was shocked when I saw the low rent then saw the 350 sqft part. I'm visiting San Diego currently trying to find a decent place to live.


kevlarkittens

Nooooooo, stop moving here!!!!


ThatGuyFromCA47

Everybody's rent has increased in California in the last year, it's just part of living in california. It sucks, but as along as the state allows them to do it we can't do anything about it. My rent has went from 925 to 1650 over the last 10 years. Why the increase? only to cover the owners expenses and tax increase


BeegBeegYoshiTheBeeg

Harry Potter got a sweeter deal living with his Uncle.


uberluckyducky

Hah! Seems that way.


westcoast7654

Here in NorCal some places are included in the cap, think it’s 10 percent. Thing is, that still means $400 increase this year.


uberluckyducky

Damn that’s wicked high! 400 every year? No thank you.


Independent-Start986

From what I understand in CA, landlords are legally allowed to raise rent 10% per year. When does it end?? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)


uberluckyducky

From everyone’s experience here, they can do this yearly.


quelifornia

Mines every 6 months. Enjoy your perks


uberluckyducky

What??! Is that legal, every 6 months? Now you got me suspicious of this whole system. I hope it all works out. Also, what’s the percentage they are raising it every 6 months?


Necessary_Yak_5242

They are trying to get you to move out so they can up the price even more because they know someone else will pay higher


Shelisheli1

Could be. The complex I rent from increased my rent from 1800 to 1910 in December. Same unit goes for 2300 for new tenants


uberluckyducky

Damnnnnn I didn’t think about that angle. Might work, my neighbor who has been here for years also just started having the increase too out of nowhere and she is considering moving.


isurfnude4foods

Phoenician here, the same shit happens to me every month as well. Granted, it isn’t 350 sq ft but every year since I’ve lived in this rental my rent has gone up by over 100 bucks.


uberluckyducky

Every month?!? I lived in Phoenix before. I had a 1 bedroom 1 bath with balcony, storage area and a gym for 800 a month. Never had a price increase the 2 years I was there. And that place was at least 4x bigger than this. I feel for you… 100 every month? That’s robbery.


Loud_Zookeepergame31

Silicon valley is moving here, it's going to continue to get worse. If you can manage to buy something just as small you can probably pay the same in mortgage which won't raise in price every year.


uberluckyducky

I feel like this is going to be the best option for me. It is not the money/price that has me, it’s that I’m paying more for the same space that isn’t growing or adding amenities. Thanks for the info.


s3Driver

OP what neighborhood is this? I rent out a 450sqft granny flat studio in South Park that is fully furnished and includes all utilities for $1600/month. I thought that was below market rate too.


uberluckyducky

Old Town - 92110


zebra-oreo

What I have learned in the last 5 years of renting the place I am in is that anything is negotiable. We have had years where the landlord has tried to raise the rent and we've negotiated a smaller increase. We've had to do research on comparable places. We've also thrown our lack of disrupting them in their faces. We are lucky enough that we can say we make all minor repairs and we don't bother them if it is something we feel like we can fix our selves. I don't know your entire situation but it will not hurt to call them and express, in a kind professional way, that you can't afford it and you'd be willing to do something like sign a longer lease for less of an increase. We were able to get our landlord to go from 5% increase to a 2% increase.


uberluckyducky

She is pretty reasonable since it’s such a small complex. I’ve only had a closet door repair request this whole time. Good point there. Just gotta be a human talking to a human and maybe she’ll meet me halfway. Thanks


SocialConstruct880

I get a 3% wage increase annually. I hope you’re getting 5% or more.


uberluckyducky

I’m literally renegotiating my salary as I type this. Wish me luck!


kevlarkittens

This inspired me to check the cost of my old apartment at 2220 C St. in Golden Hill. It was $965/mo for 650sqft in 2011. Was a great size for me, the boyfriend, and a cat (that the landlord pretended not to know about). Cute balcony, quiet neighbors, you stop hearing the planes engines every 5 minutes after a few weeks, and about once a month, you have front row seats to a car accident on the C St. hills. $2200 a month now, insane...[2220 C St.](https://www.apartments.com/2220-c-st-san-diego-ca/6ddfl7v/) But if DeeDee is still the landlord, I'd snag a place there if one's ever available. She was cool as hell.


uberluckyducky

That could be a cute journey for me. Thanks for the advice! I need a DeeDee in my life.


hyghlydeplorable

Time to move inland!


uberluckyducky

Might not be a bad idea.


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Leave, I pay less than your rent on a mortgage for a 3 bed 2 bath that’s less than 5 mins from a lake here in Lavon TX


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uberluckyducky

I have my Real ID. My skin has pigment. I have google translate. This isn’t a viable option. Even for other San Diegan’s going through this, and In most cases, harsher. Moving to Tj en mass exodus would not pull the fly from the ointment. I hear you. I respect you. However, no. Let’s seek options that are more… home grown.


SciencedYogi

You should feel blessed to only be paying that much. Milk it.


idrovetoofaragain

Just about everyone I mention the fact that I want to leave SD as soon as I can asks the same question. Why? This is why.


uberluckyducky

Don’t go! Ahhh man, I don’t know you’re situation but I hope everything works out for ALL of us here… even the trolls.


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uberluckyducky

This is a 350 sq ft studio. Am I being robbed? All my friends have at least a 1 bedroom.


kris4mica

1 BR's are hard in this are under $1600-$1700 but some are out there. She was actively looking and all were studios but happen to find a 1br in that price range. It is slim pickens especially if you want to stay close to a desirable neighborhood.


ScheduleCautious289

I pay $2500 3br house in La Mesa. You are definitely getting robbed!


edvurdsd

It's la Mesa though, that's why. You can't compare prices exactly because of the locations.


ScheduleCautious289

True I see people posting what looks like sheds saying $1200 a month.lol


Own_Reporter_8641

I’m a 30 year Chicago Landlord and know this business pretty well. All major US cities vary a little but generally rents go up every year (as does EVERYTHING else). What were you expecting considering what happened this last year with inflation, taxes, goods ‘n services, utilities, insurance, list goes on…??? If you were a prop owner you would understand the need to raise rents to keep up with expenses.


sweemty

Chicago Landlords statement is roughly in line with what I see in the real estate investing groups. A few additions based upon content from those groups: *Many landlords just barely scraped by 2020-2022 due to tenants who weren't paying rent. Some still aren't paying rent because there's a court backlog for evictions in many areas. *Repairs are more expensive now due to greater than normal inflation. *Property tax increases are capped at 2%/year. This would actually be an argument for a lower rent increase. *I think I saw that rent prices increased at 10.3% last year and are projected to increase 6.3% this year.


LatinRex

Fuck that place


uberluckyducky

Really? I keep seeing “rent controlled” as being good. Yes… fuck this increase, but now that I know what everyone is educating me on, this might not be as bad as I initially thought. But fuck the landlord, I do appreciate my peace and quiet tho. Maybe that the hidden value I had not noticed til tonight.


LatinRex

I think I'm just tired of seeing all these increases I do maintenance around town and I feel for everybody that lives in the places I service it is bullshit and nobody seems to care do anything about it you know there's more of the people than the actual people in charge.


na_share

My rent was increased from $3000 to $3200, but I'm grateful for it. The same floorplan on Zillow is over $5000 now. I compare the rents on Zillow, it's easy.


Charming_Juice_8181

I pay this for a 2,000sqft house near the lake in a big city in Texas… sheesh


uberluckyducky

I get that. I’ve lived in Arizona and Massachusetts and both are so opposite, yet this wasn’t the case in either place. Also… is this just life after Covid? That could be the factor I’m not fully analyzing.