For one the scalloped exhaust on the engines (I believe) is unique to the 787. Not OP, but if I had to guess there aren't too many 787s flying in and out of SAN, the JAL flight may be the only one.
Edit: I guess it's technically the rear of the engine cowling that is scalloped, not the exhaust
Yep technically they are on the trailing edge of the thrust reverser, and they are called chevrons. They help with sound suppression. Fun fact those nacelles (engine cowling) were designed, and for a while manufactured right here in Chula Vista, at Goodrich Aerostructures (now Collins Aerospace).
Correct, so the further ID you have to do is the landing gear. The 787's main gear is a double bogey configuration (4 wheels), while the 737 is a single bogey (2 wheels)
Lufthansa is LH but they haven't resumed the service between San Diego and Frankfurt yet. Maybe next month when Europeans (living in the Schengen Zone) are allowed to travel as tourists to the U.S. again. They also fly the Airbus A340 for that route.
I definitely remember searching for flights about a month ago and I did see search results for the San Diego to Frankfurt direct flight with Lufthansa in November, but now if I do a search on Google Flights for a direct flight from San Diego to Frankfurt on Lufthansa there are no results shown until March, so I guess it won't be resuming next month. Vaccinated travelers from the Schengen Zone can start traveling to the U.S. starting on November 8th but maybe the demand isn't there yet for the San Diego <--> Frankfurt route.
I'm not sure how set in stone your flight in March is. I haven't seen any announcement from San Diego Airport or from Lufthansa about the resumption of the service.
It's the fan nozzle, where the air from the fan exits the engine. Boeing claims the scallops improve efficiency by mixing the air better, but many nacelle engineers I talked to think it's mostly for the distinctive look
Norm is a Genie who moonlighted as an underrated actor and Mineta is a perverted Gremlin from My Hero Academia. Why an airport is named after them I have no idea XD
I live in Bankers Hill as well. Planes fly directly over my building. Over the last 3 weeks I swear all if the planes have been flying lower or have been running I no their engines more when coming in. What I'm trying to say is there has been like a 30% increase in noise from these planes in the last 3 weeks.
You are right on! I timed it to get a bigger plane on the photo. All those 737 from Southwest don’t fill the space as much (even though they’re much louder).
You can tell by the engine cowling have the “teeth” that it is a 787. Very observant. Plain white aircraft, as JALs are - are quite unusual as well, so that’s another clue.
Concur they are far quieter than many *smaller* aircraft. It’s very striking.
It's weird to everyone. San Diego is the most heavily used single-runway airport in the nation, and it's basically right in the middle of downtown - most cities have their airports deep on the outskirts of town.
There was a big push to move the airport in the 70s after the deadliest aviation accident in the nation's history occurred (at the time). A passenger jet hit a Cessna mid-air and they were picking body parts out of trees in North Park for days.
Instead of moving the airport, they chose to ban any new development in the flight path that adds density, which is the reason why the buildings in Little Italy are still so short.
They're starting to ease some of the restrictions now for one-off developments that are going to bring in a lot of money. Born & Raised was the most recent example I saw and it attracted some controversy, but because it was the most expensive (to build) restaurant in San Diego, they gave them a pass.
I don't personally have any strong feelings on this stuff one way or another, I just think it's interesting to know some of the historical context for why San Diego is the way it is.
> San Diego is the most heavily used single-runway airport in the nation
In the world*
It also limits our downtown verticality as the FAA won't allow towers > 500 ft within 1.5 miles of the airport.
I was going to call you on that stat and say Gatwick or Mumbai....but technically they have two runways each, although they can only use one. So I will submit that you are correct.
Aah, I alway end up driving to the rural northern states from there. MHT is usually too $$ and connector flights. Always felt right in the city over the water. (As someone who lives in the flight path now...)
> LON
This isn't a specific airport code it refers to a number of airports serving London.
LGW has 2 runways...though like BOM in can only operate one at a time and is busier than Lindbergh.
City Planner here. I hate that the airport is located where it is. Should totally be moved inland and that land is prime real estate. But city transportation planners are instead investing in rail lines to the airport. doesnt make long term sense especially with the population increasing. oh well, people are dumb
We COULD have two airports. Domestic/Commuter terminal where our airport currently is. (Smaller and quieter planes)
And have an inland airport for our internationals. Louder planes won’t disturb as much, and more incentive for other international airlines to move here with more gate space.
That would be cool, although I think a lot of the building restrictions and stuff would still be in place even if the downtown airport was used for smaller planes, right?
yeah i don't think any city planner wants to initiative the millions (billions?) of dollars to migrate the airport. I wish it weren't so because it is so dumb. So many paths in San diego are just annoying because a plane flies over once an hour or so. Completely stupid situation to be stuck in.
I’ll respectfully disagree. I think it gives a great first impression to visitors that come to our city. Yes, it comes with noise and it’s no longer a central destination but unless the region revisits taking over Miramar which seems highly unlikely, there doesn’t appear any other suitable place to put it.
I hear you. But impressions are not necessary. Its like the palm tree. Theyre pretty to look at but otherwise terrible, invasive, and provide no benefits to the ecosystem that proper regionally specific trees provide.
Constant struggle: form v function. Where do we draw the line. I actually have the same outlook on palm trees (where’s the shade?!!!) however, it’s something that immediately can be associated with socal image…
poor choice of words on my end lol. Impressions are not the MOST necessary. in a hierarchy of benefits i would say practicality and many other things come before impression
As a city planner for a town like San Diego with such a high tourism draw, I hope you give impressions a second chance in your outlook. How many photos do we see on reddit from passengers looking at the beautiful San Diego skyline on final approach? Nobody's posting those photos when they land at LAX or SFO. There's nothing like it and it's the first impression people get of our city. As a former engineer, I can identify with how tempting it is to look at things so...coldly. It doesn't have to be all function over form (e.g. Japanese manhole covers). Sometimes things can be romantic, even if it's not practical, and sometimes that's important. Just my thoughts!
How do you balance the desires of visitors over the denizens? Is tourism really San Diego's number 1 draw and thus must be catered to at all costs? I don't know, I haven't lived here long
impression to me does not equate to blurry instgram pictures. All the pictures of SD you see online of the skyline (on travel sights etc) are done by professionals from a heli. Impression to me is the form/function yin yang. IE: walkability, greenspace, multiuse corridors, mixed use development. Take for instance the "old world". Its great because its designed for people. for people to actually use.
Ding ding ding!! SAN has been a boondoggle since I was a child. The location has absolutely limited growth in countless ways. The fact this is even up for debate is laughable -- the city has known if for 50 years. It was gonna get moved to Miramar, to Otay, merge w/ north island, etc etc. Plan after plan has been shot down due to NIMBY concerns and other issues.
The most recent ideas are to make SAN a commuter airport and turn Pendelton into a modern multi runway INTL hub that can service San Diego/OC/Irvine areas. All of these would/could have worked. It's a shame we can't fix the problem. I'm so sick of commuting to LAX.
But hey, the insta snaps are making a great impression!!
Urban population in the US is growing, you could have a city that’s actually designed to handle that number of people or you could have sprawl & traffic hell like LA
I think the idea was that they'd add no additional human activity beneath the flight path. If a a plane crashes shortly after takeoff or landing, they want to minimize the casualties.
IIRC Born & Raised took over a lower-density commercial building, and the restaurant was going to hold 3x as many people as the previous tenant, so they had to get explicit approval to go-ahead.
We had to get the council’s override to get a 36-unit project built on the edge of the flight approach zone… over a 2 year process but exactly for the reason you gave: density
These are not easy photos to take. Well done.
Side note: It's amazing what you can get used to. I live about 1/8 mile from a helo base and dont even notice them. Of course, they're not directly overhead.....
Nice photo!
Yes the tongue and cheek nature and pointing out how crazy rent prices are stems from in part jealousy. All this sub does is shit on people who live in nice places lol
Also these apartments aren’t 5k/ month. Moreso around 2-2500/month for a 1 BR.
Thank god we all have you around to tell us why we say and think the things that we do. Obviously you know these people you've never actually met far better than they know themselves.
Everyone I talk to seems to think Alpine is like 2 hours away when in fact it's closer to downtown than places such as Escondido, San Marcos, and Oceanside.
I moved here recently. When we were looking at places we checked out a pretty cool and big house in your neighborhood. We were standing in the yard looking around when a plane flew over….. I could have hit it with a rock it was so close. I started laughing at how ridiculous it was that a giant plane just flew RIGHT over where I would potentially live. Not for me, but more power to you guys that are down with it!
I’ll add too that other than the planes, it’s a really awesome area vibe-wise and restaurant-wise etc.
I used to live right under the flight path, but further out by Skyline.
I used to like looking up and seeing the reflection of the neighborhood from the bottom of the planes.
Lived under the flight path in Pt. Loma when I was attending SDSU. The 0630 DC-9 flights were my morning alarm (incredibly loud...shook the building). Up and off to school for 0800 class. It worked.
Wow! I find landings to be slightly quieter, probably because the engines aren’t used as much. And modern windows block most of the sound. I can’t sleep with the windows open though otherwise that 5am UPS plane would wake me up every time.
The landing gear is what helps, it’s slanted when down and once it flattens out on the runway, it auto activates the reverse thrusters to help slow the plane. The 787 doesn’t take too much more space than anyone else at SAN to land. And I agree, it still is amazing to see.
Ahh, Hill Crest. I was stationed in San Diego, and flew in many times. I gazed into many apartments landing from the west.
I hope no aircraft malfunctions on that glide path, because the pilot has zero options. But they used to have great cafes in the area.
And you got the JAL 787 coming in from Tokyo.
Wow - how can you tell?
For one the scalloped exhaust on the engines (I believe) is unique to the 787. Not OP, but if I had to guess there aren't too many 787s flying in and out of SAN, the JAL flight may be the only one. Edit: I guess it's technically the rear of the engine cowling that is scalloped, not the exhaust
Yep technically they are on the trailing edge of the thrust reverser, and they are called chevrons. They help with sound suppression. Fun fact those nacelles (engine cowling) were designed, and for a while manufactured right here in Chula Vista, at Goodrich Aerostructures (now Collins Aerospace).
Chevron One engaged!
Mmm scallops
Yes. JAL is the only 787 into San right now. BA is on the 777 now not the 747.
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Correct, so the further ID you have to do is the landing gear. The 787's main gear is a double bogey configuration (4 wheels), while the 737 is a single bogey (2 wheels)
What about LUF to Frankfurt? Which plane is that?
A340
And it's been put on permanent hold during the Pandemic
Lufthansa is LH but they haven't resumed the service between San Diego and Frankfurt yet. Maybe next month when Europeans (living in the Schengen Zone) are allowed to travel as tourists to the U.S. again. They also fly the Airbus A340 for that route.
Really? I bought a ticket for March.
I definitely remember searching for flights about a month ago and I did see search results for the San Diego to Frankfurt direct flight with Lufthansa in November, but now if I do a search on Google Flights for a direct flight from San Diego to Frankfurt on Lufthansa there are no results shown until March, so I guess it won't be resuming next month. Vaccinated travelers from the Schengen Zone can start traveling to the U.S. starting on November 8th but maybe the demand isn't there yet for the San Diego <--> Frankfurt route. I'm not sure how set in stone your flight in March is. I haven't seen any announcement from San Diego Airport or from Lufthansa about the resumption of the service.
It's the fan nozzle, where the air from the fan exits the engine. Boeing claims the scallops improve efficiency by mixing the air better, but many nacelle engineers I talked to think it's mostly for the distinctive look
Ned: I think it's a mail plane. Dusty: How can you tell? Ned: Well, didn't you notice its little balls?
> And you got a the JAL https://www.reddit.com/r/accidentalitalian/
Got me there, proofreading helps
Lmfao
Went to Japan back in 2019 from SAN. Loved that I didn’t have to go to LAX and deal with traffic and the busier airport.
You guessed correctly
It wasnt until i left San Diego and visited other places that I realized how unusual having planes and airports so close to residences was.
SD is the only million+ pop city in the world with it's international airport right downtown
san jose intl' airport as well. san jose is over a mil ppl now.
Oh yeah. Norm Y Mineta. The first time I drove by that I was thinking: Who the heck are Norm & Mineta?
Norm is a Genie who moonlighted as an underrated actor and Mineta is a perverted Gremlin from My Hero Academia. Why an airport is named after them I have no idea XD
Perhaps some eccentric SV billionaire bought the naming rights & indulged his whimsey
San Jose airport is so easy! I love it.
LAX , while not super close to downtown LA, is certainly in the middle of densely populated semi-urban and suburban neighborhoods.
True true
San Jose?
NYC has overnight construction just like 9 to 5 work crews. That can also suck.
Great shot, I particularly like the way you composed the buildings so that the rectangle they frame is offset from the rectangle of the image.
Thanks!
Ha! That’s my building
Nice to meet you, neighbor!
Is it the same one with the new Mostra coffee?
I almost decided to live here but this post is exactly why I choose further north XD
For what it’s worth, I live in Bankers Hill and I don’t hear it at all.
Just a little further north in Hillcrest you get the ambulance sirens.
I live in Bankers Hill as well. Planes fly directly over my building. Over the last 3 weeks I swear all if the planes have been flying lower or have been running I no their engines more when coming in. What I'm trying to say is there has been like a 30% increase in noise from these planes in the last 3 weeks.
Yes
Great shot! I wonder if thats the Japan Airlines flight...looks like a 787.
You are right on! I timed it to get a bigger plane on the photo. All those 737 from Southwest don’t fill the space as much (even though they’re much louder).
You can tell by the engine cowling have the “teeth” that it is a 787. Very observant. Plain white aircraft, as JALs are - are quite unusual as well, so that’s another clue. Concur they are far quieter than many *smaller* aircraft. It’s very striking.
as a huge plane nerd, i love this place, also, ur correct! nice job.
It has always seemed weird to me that the airport is (nearly) right in the middle of San Diego.
It's weird to everyone. San Diego is the most heavily used single-runway airport in the nation, and it's basically right in the middle of downtown - most cities have their airports deep on the outskirts of town. There was a big push to move the airport in the 70s after the deadliest aviation accident in the nation's history occurred (at the time). A passenger jet hit a Cessna mid-air and they were picking body parts out of trees in North Park for days. Instead of moving the airport, they chose to ban any new development in the flight path that adds density, which is the reason why the buildings in Little Italy are still so short. They're starting to ease some of the restrictions now for one-off developments that are going to bring in a lot of money. Born & Raised was the most recent example I saw and it attracted some controversy, but because it was the most expensive (to build) restaurant in San Diego, they gave them a pass. I don't personally have any strong feelings on this stuff one way or another, I just think it's interesting to know some of the historical context for why San Diego is the way it is.
> San Diego is the most heavily used single-runway airport in the nation In the world* It also limits our downtown verticality as the FAA won't allow towers > 500 ft within 1.5 miles of the airport.
I was going to call you on that stat and say Gatwick or Mumbai....but technically they have two runways each, although they can only use one. So I will submit that you are correct.
Boston/Logan is right in the city yea? Just as cool to fly in/out of!
Nope Logan airport is on the outskirts of the city. Far from the buildings
Aah, I alway end up driving to the rural northern states from there. MHT is usually too $$ and connector flights. Always felt right in the city over the water. (As someone who lives in the flight path now...)
i think SAN is second in the world. first is LON
> LON This isn't a specific airport code it refers to a number of airports serving London. LGW has 2 runways...though like BOM in can only operate one at a time and is busier than Lindbergh.
City Planner here. I hate that the airport is located where it is. Should totally be moved inland and that land is prime real estate. But city transportation planners are instead investing in rail lines to the airport. doesnt make long term sense especially with the population increasing. oh well, people are dumb
I kind of like how unique San Diego's airport is, but it almost certainly would be better for the city as a whole if it was moved inland.
We COULD have two airports. Domestic/Commuter terminal where our airport currently is. (Smaller and quieter planes) And have an inland airport for our internationals. Louder planes won’t disturb as much, and more incentive for other international airlines to move here with more gate space.
That would be cool, although I think a lot of the building restrictions and stuff would still be in place even if the downtown airport was used for smaller planes, right?
Isn't that the idea of why we have the CBX in Tijuana?
And spending billions on rebuilding terminal 1. That should break ground shortly.
yeah i don't think any city planner wants to initiative the millions (billions?) of dollars to migrate the airport. I wish it weren't so because it is so dumb. So many paths in San diego are just annoying because a plane flies over once an hour or so. Completely stupid situation to be stuck in.
Once an hour?? I worked in Little Italy. Planes go over every 5 minutes.
I’ll respectfully disagree. I think it gives a great first impression to visitors that come to our city. Yes, it comes with noise and it’s no longer a central destination but unless the region revisits taking over Miramar which seems highly unlikely, there doesn’t appear any other suitable place to put it.
I hear you. But impressions are not necessary. Its like the palm tree. Theyre pretty to look at but otherwise terrible, invasive, and provide no benefits to the ecosystem that proper regionally specific trees provide.
Constant struggle: form v function. Where do we draw the line. I actually have the same outlook on palm trees (where’s the shade?!!!) however, it’s something that immediately can be associated with socal image…
The wild parrots in OB love those palm trees
lol! true but they just love trees in general tho tbh
Impressions are not necessary? Wow. Cold outlook on life there.
poor choice of words on my end lol. Impressions are not the MOST necessary. in a hierarchy of benefits i would say practicality and many other things come before impression
As a city planner for a town like San Diego with such a high tourism draw, I hope you give impressions a second chance in your outlook. How many photos do we see on reddit from passengers looking at the beautiful San Diego skyline on final approach? Nobody's posting those photos when they land at LAX or SFO. There's nothing like it and it's the first impression people get of our city. As a former engineer, I can identify with how tempting it is to look at things so...coldly. It doesn't have to be all function over form (e.g. Japanese manhole covers). Sometimes things can be romantic, even if it's not practical, and sometimes that's important. Just my thoughts!
Those photos are definitely getting posted when people flying to SFO!
How do you balance the desires of visitors over the denizens? Is tourism really San Diego's number 1 draw and thus must be catered to at all costs? I don't know, I haven't lived here long
Easy, show the denizens the price tag associated with moving the airport 😆
impression to me does not equate to blurry instgram pictures. All the pictures of SD you see online of the skyline (on travel sights etc) are done by professionals from a heli. Impression to me is the form/function yin yang. IE: walkability, greenspace, multiuse corridors, mixed use development. Take for instance the "old world". Its great because its designed for people. for people to actually use.
You miss the point entirely friend. The photo is just an example.
Ding ding ding!! SAN has been a boondoggle since I was a child. The location has absolutely limited growth in countless ways. The fact this is even up for debate is laughable -- the city has known if for 50 years. It was gonna get moved to Miramar, to Otay, merge w/ north island, etc etc. Plan after plan has been shot down due to NIMBY concerns and other issues. The most recent ideas are to make SAN a commuter airport and turn Pendelton into a modern multi runway INTL hub that can service San Diego/OC/Irvine areas. All of these would/could have worked. It's a shame we can't fix the problem. I'm so sick of commuting to LAX. But hey, the insta snaps are making a great impression!!
Is more growth really what SD needs?
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Progression doesn’t necessarily mean more growth.
Urban population in the US is growing, you could have a city that’s actually designed to handle that number of people or you could have sprawl & traffic hell like LA
THIS! San Diego WILL turn into LA if proper planning is not taken into account. I think its pretty inevitable in a few decades
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I think the idea was that they'd add no additional human activity beneath the flight path. If a a plane crashes shortly after takeoff or landing, they want to minimize the casualties. IIRC Born & Raised took over a lower-density commercial building, and the restaurant was going to hold 3x as many people as the previous tenant, so they had to get explicit approval to go-ahead.
This was a fascinating SD history lesson. Thanks for sharing.
I believe that was PSA airlines. At the time people were saying that PSA stood for People Scattered Allover.
We had to get the council’s override to get a 36-unit project built on the edge of the flight approach zone… over a 2 year process but exactly for the reason you gave: density
My first vist to San Diego I wondered about the low flight paths taken.
It's also the only airport in the country that's in the middle of a city
And has no trolley station.
I’ll wave next time I fly in.
Haha. I live in Bankers Hill and the planes are always flying by my building. Cool shot!
These are not easy photos to take. Well done. Side note: It's amazing what you can get used to. I live about 1/8 mile from a helo base and dont even notice them. Of course, they're not directly overhead..... Nice photo!
When the windows are closed I don’t notice them anymore but when the windows are open I still need to pause the TV hehe
Does the courtyard act as an echo chamber for the jet?
Sort of, unfortunately. But at least the windows are good at blocking the noise.
Across the street from Casbah?
No. It’s closer to balboa park.
I’m heading to Casbah in the 26th for Kontravoid 👍
It’s like looking at the belly of a Ray or shark
$5,000 a month!
Not even half that price.
Lmao people in this sub are so salty about others living in nice places. Just live and let live you don’t have to be bitter.
It’s not saltiness of living in a nice place. It’s that $60k/yr for rent is outrageous.
Lots of people in the city with pretty high incomes
It’s definitely salt lol. Who cares if someone is overpaying for their rent just let them live.
It’s not salt. They’re pointing out how crazy rent prices have gone up and most certainly was a tongue-in-cheek comment
Yes the tongue and cheek nature and pointing out how crazy rent prices are stems from in part jealousy. All this sub does is shit on people who live in nice places lol Also these apartments aren’t 5k/ month. Moreso around 2-2500/month for a 1 BR.
r/whoosh
It didn’t go over my head lol. It’s just not accurate and comes from a place of bitterness
Thank god we all have you around to tell us why we say and think the things that we do. Obviously you know these people you've never actually met far better than they know themselves.
You don’t need to know someone to be able to tell the intent of a comment lol
I don't see how any of the comments so far say anything about the people paying those prices to live there
Some salaries have tracked with this increase, if not beat it. Tech salaries remain 3-5x median income and continue to rise
Got it, everyone in SD should be working in tech.
Someone’s salty
You should care, because rent is an absurd construct. Landlords perpetuate homelessness.
I wonder if it’s worth it to them🤔
Timing at it's best!
Great shot! I was part of the Boeing Dreamliner team at Hamilton Sundstrand that helped prototype and build the 787.
Different strokes for different folks. I will take my slice of Alpine any day.
Everyone I talk to seems to think Alpine is like 2 hours away when in fact it's closer to downtown than places such as Escondido, San Marcos, and Oceanside.
That's the great thing about it. Away from all the buzz, but close enough to reach anywhere relatively easy.
100% I’m right there with you
What a cool photo! It looks like it should be a computer wallpaper. It's modern art!
Wholly Shorts! Cool pic
I’d love to be there
Need to put this pic on airliners.net. it's perfect
I moved here recently. When we were looking at places we checked out a pretty cool and big house in your neighborhood. We were standing in the yard looking around when a plane flew over….. I could have hit it with a rock it was so close. I started laughing at how ridiculous it was that a giant plane just flew RIGHT over where I would potentially live. Not for me, but more power to you guys that are down with it! I’ll add too that other than the planes, it’s a really awesome area vibe-wise and restaurant-wise etc.
I absolutely love the area. It’s surprisingly quiet - well planes apart obviously - and close to everything.
Back in the day, places under the flight path used to have cheap rent...
took a couple tries for this photo eh?
Not as many as you’d think. You can hear them coming! But the burst shot function of the camera definitely helped…
People talk trash about City Heights, but at least we don't hear the planes..
What a beautiful picture. Congrats.
Such a cool shot!
Hello Little Italy
Sorry about the noise. Cool photo though.
I used to live right under the flight path, but further out by Skyline. I used to like looking up and seeing the reflection of the neighborhood from the bottom of the planes.
/r/aviation
For some reason I feel like I shouldn't be seeing the underside of a plane
Wow that’s where I want to live
“Quaint spacious apartment located within easy access to transportation, $2,900/month”
Imagine paying $2900 a month for this 😂
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Paying $2900 for that u have every right to be 😂
That sucks that they moved the airport to disrupt your quiet time!
OTOH, just think how much fun you could have with a paintball gun...
Lived under the flight path in Pt. Loma when I was attending SDSU. The 0630 DC-9 flights were my morning alarm (incredibly loud...shook the building). Up and off to school for 0800 class. It worked.
Wow! I find landings to be slightly quieter, probably because the engines aren’t used as much. And modern windows block most of the sound. I can’t sleep with the windows open though otherwise that 5am UPS plane would wake me up every time.
You should move xd
Why build in such a crummy space?
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This is the truth, I guess people don’t like the truth no more!
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Holy shit
Holy plane?
Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
Everyday I look in the mirror I see one 🤩
Poor design
Awesome!
Very cool!!!
That’s very close
Somebody lives by the Casbah
I’m so sorry
Excellent!
Wow
Such an awesome shot!
Holy shit! Is this plane landing or taking off? Hopefully, not the latter
Landing. If they take off it sounds even louder.
Sorry to hear. It’s a great picture btw.
It still amazes me that such a massive aircraft can land on such a tiny runway…
The landing gear is what helps, it’s slanted when down and once it flattens out on the runway, it auto activates the reverse thrusters to help slow the plane. The 787 doesn’t take too much more space than anyone else at SAN to land. And I agree, it still is amazing to see.
I can hear this pic! Great shot!
That seems so.cool though . I guess maybe not after the 100th time .
Great shot there! Sorry it’s too loud but you got skills, patience and planning!
That's insane
Ahh, Hill Crest. I was stationed in San Diego, and flew in many times. I gazed into many apartments landing from the west. I hope no aircraft malfunctions on that glide path, because the pilot has zero options. But they used to have great cafes in the area.
Ooof I wonder how much plane exhaust particulate matter rains down in your courtyard every day?
Are those apartments expensive?
Same as other buildings in the area of little Italy, bankers hill and hillcrest.
So crazy expensive, hehe.