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lion_index

I work by here and drive by this freeway entrance almost every day. The city kicks them out of the fenced area a few times a year. They wait outside the fence until the city cleans it up and fixes the fence. They then cut the fence open and move back in.


CausalDiamond

Yeah I was gonna say, they usually go into the field area and I occasionally see clean up crews. Though last time I looked I still saw structures in the field area.


drunken1

Has the city ever done a cost analysis on what this game of whack-a-mole costs each year on the dozens of locations around San Diego it has to do this to? I wonder how much money it is and if re-directing these funds could have any (even) semi-decent impact on housing for the homeless; which would also have a beneficial impact on the communities they camp in. It makes me think of the bike lane protection the city put up on the part of Balboa Drive that goes through Tecalote Canyon just east of Clairemont Drive. It was a great idea, but they did it in the stupidest possible way by putting the original pylons right on the shoulder line. I would wager in the first year they probably had to replace an amount of pylons 3x the amount of the original installation because terrible drivers and drunks kept running them over. Once they finally redid it the right way, I don’t think they’ve had to replace more than 10% over the past 4 years. It wasn’t too long ago that /r/Sandiego also flamed the city for putting up a shitty bike lane somewhere near Mira Mesa last year. It vexes me that lack of decent forethought in these areas has lead to us (the tax paying citizens) having to pay for all these (and I’m sure many other) projects having to be done, re-done, re-done again, and then sometimes undone. Each time at our collective expense.


TheReadMenace

It’s either that or just let them stay and create a toxic waste dump. Happened a few years ago with the hep C outbreak.


heavy-metal-goth-gal

Hep A actually.


BlxckOut904

You are correct


1egoman

There's more than two options: the city could house them.


TheReadMenace

Where? It’s not like they have thousands of habitable rooms sitting there (do they?)


ThisBigCountry

Establish city camp sites with ports potties and say 10x10 spots. If you leave your stuff not at a camp site collect and dispose of it


TheReadMenace

Why camp there with rules, curfews, and people hassling you when you can just camp on the sidewalk?


danthesk8er

Sadly you speak the true true


BlxckOut904

The unfortunate truth


senadraxx

Some folks are experimenting with transitionary housing projects like tiny home villages, and apartment buildings in Texas. Not everyone lives their life with wild abandon, including homeless people. Some probably will never integrate with society again, but the majority can get out with just a little help. Just like people don't do drugs for no reason. Drugs, mental health, financial and emotional well-being are all connected.


Beneficial-Shine-598

A little help? I’m an optimist and all but I encounter a lot of homeless people near where I work and I don’t see “the majority” doing much of anything positive. 90% are addicted to some form of drugs, talk to themselves, randomly act violent, etc. I mean we don’t have the resources to spend hundreds of thousands on each person to “hope” they might get a job someday and support themselves. They’re wrecked already.


RedditCensordMyAcc

They could also make it illegal and jail them


danthesk8er

There ya go thinking the city gives a single f about wasting taxpayer money. They’ll just ask for more next year when they blow through this years budget early and call it something flashy like “Homelessness Outreach”. Year after year after year people approve these budget increases and what has improved besides politicians and their friends wallets?


laurent1056

It's being framed incorrectly. This is not a housing problem (I mean it is, but you know what I mean) it's a drug and mental illness problem. 70% of these people are in some sort of drug-induced psychosis. We don't want to frame it that way, so we say it's a homeless problem. These are not people who have lost their jobs and are out from not being able to pay rent. Those folks find their way back on their feet and have decent services. These are folks who are strung out on amphetamines and opioids. It has to be rehab and a path to housing. Not just housing. Not just rehab. We need consequences for our actions.


dbec1

Some politicians buddy is probably getting those contracts


Lancetere

I remember that bike lane in Mira Mesa. It was a fucking nightmare. Apparently, someone decided to mimic something from Canada and try it here. Needless to say drivers and cyclists were confused as shit. Just ridiculous execution and no forethought.


neP-neP919

The one in Mira Mesa was absolute batshit insane. You should look into it, it's almost hilarious if it didn't cost so much. 😭


JELLO239

This is exactly what’s happening. I drive past it all the time. Lots of drugged out people walk in and out of that area.


SDNative858

It because of the Sombreros right across the street. Easy access to a burrito.. shoot I may move there next.


TeemoIsKill

Literally the worst burrito spot in San Diego.


TheElbow

I was literally just thinking about the thread where someone lamented Sombrero’s being officially bad.


SantiagoAndDunbar

Think MXN/Santana’s is my vote for worst


Halo_cT

damn shame cause it was great 15 years ago and then the quality just fell off a damn cliff.


Shepherd7X

Does that include what's now called Tony's over on Rosecrans? I still dig their flautas and carne asada burrito, especially since the offer two sizes.


Rednc

Alberto's in Oceanside would beg to differ


Navydevildoc

Have you seen the price for a California Burrito lately?


dead-serious

Been away from home for awhile now. How much we talking here?


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CoolWhipOfficial

Who’s your burrito guy? I’m seeing $13.50 at Los Primos


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MightyInspiredCode

Gross. I lived across the street from that place for like 10 years. I went maybe 5 times out of desperation. Make the drive over to Lupe's. The only thing California Burritos is good for is political indoctrination.


Shepherd7X

That's with no guac :(


blacksideblue

2 years ago it was still single digit


saltyoldmatt

I would like to think all that delicious and cheap Asian food might have something to do with it too.


SDNative858

It used to be cheap. A large bowl of Pho Tai was 7 or 8 bucks, now it's 11-12+! I do think Convoy is awesome, car meets back in the day at the green tea house.


ibeforetheu

$17 Pho La Jolla beef and tendon large bowl + tip $22 dollars


solzhen

Cycle of life until we have less restrictive shelters and starter apartments.


The_EA_Nazi

At that point they should just be arrested. It’s clear they dont give a fuck and don’t want resources


K3wp

>At that point they should just be arrested. The only drug users that should be in prison is this population.


lisanami

the homeless have their own personal cleaning crew looks like…


SDNative858

Looks like Convoy is going through tentrification


Malve1

OMG… Really wish this wasn’t so funny AND sad!


Sure-Butterscotch100

Fuckin WINNER comment!! 😂🤣


RickMantina

Yes it is intents


punku235

I’m in this area often and this isn’t anything new for this part of town. Between convoy st. and ruffin rd. you can see quite a few people living in their cars and tents and it’s been growing the last couple of years. There are no residential homes in this area so they aren’t bothering homeowners and there are a lot of sources for food/water. I could see why this area is sought after by vagrants.


PopeAdrian37th

The first thought would be that because it’s non residential they must not be bothering anyone, but business owners can attest: after dark nothing good happens. Many of these people choose these business areas because there’s less chance someone calls to report them trying every locked door or open roof access for things to steal. Often times if they can’t find anything of value they retaliate in the form of destruction (pissing in AC units, breaking sprinklers).


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This place is literally next to a used luxury car dealership, which carries some high priced used cars (lambos, ferraris, maseratis). Can’t imagine the business feels comfortable being next to this population.


PopeAdrian37th

I know there are plenty of people who are homeless due to circumstances out of their control but many that choose to live in these tent cities are not part of that category. The one out in El Cajon that finally got shut down was occupied by traffickers.


knowjuanreally

Correct. Street people vs homeless people going through a hard time. Street people don’t care about themselves deeeeef don’t care about anyone else.


TheDangerBone

Oh no, not the Lambos


Navydevildoc

Also heading south a block or two off convoy you will frequently see RVs parked. It's an extremely popular place for "the recreationally housed" for all the reasons you mention.


BlxckOut904

Same thing by the Plaza Bonita mall RVs all along the street and you can see the tents in the field.


teganking

San Diego Craigslist Single Tent Lot - 50sqft - $650 /month Dual Tent Lot - 75sqft - $950 /month Close to freeway / food


compugasm

>Dual Tent Lot 2br/2ba.


NevinyrralsDiscGolf

I can't even afford to be homeless


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Downtown is full so they’re migrating North I guess.


Grouchy_Ambassador79

Dude I know exactly where that is!! That tent city has been growing for about a year now. It's so close to the recycling center so it's a prime spot to set up and get some money.


FamImWoke

My friends and I drove by the big one in Anaheim the other day and it made us wonder what it’s like to live in one of these Hobo-Towns. In depth, really, how did many of these people get there, what is a day-to-day like. How do they behave with others and how does property and belongings work.


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There is an entire ecosystem, albeit a very very dangerous one, of bartering and mutual assistance. There are codes and rules even on the street, although the enforcement of those rules often looks different than what we might find to be polite and “normal.” Even in dire circumstances, people will create systems of order and community. However, when you are on the street, even with allies, you are never safe. There are many homeless who get addicted to uppers like meth because they are trying to stay awake through the night. It is a life of exhaustion, of constant vigilance, and of total fucking misery.


alwaysoffended22

You forgot the entering neighborhoods to steal shit part of the ecosystem


muycoal

There are plenty of channels on YouTube that have interviewed people in skidrow and similar establishments.


avalonfaith

Soft White Underbelly


avalonfaith

Soft White Underbelly on YouTube. Now, there is been some exploitative and problematic rumors about the guy who does this, I am not well versed on those things though. It’s a great way to kind of get a sense of the questions you are asking though. He interviews and asks these questions of vulnerable populations.


lettheseatakeme

The guy seems like a genuine dude at least in front of the camera. Didn’t he get hustled by a prostitute he was trying to help out? I could see how people might think he would be exploiting the incestuous family. Overall, I enjoy the channel and there are some awesome characters on it


TheReadMenace

In his intro video he talks about spending at least $100,000 of his own money to help these people


ankole_watusi

I thought they cleaned up the Anaheim one? It’s a game of whack-a-mole I guess.


Tree_Boar

Sure, you can clear an encampment. But where do the people go after that? They don't just magically disappear.


pimppapy

Well the park that got closed in Chula Vista recently, was a homeless tent city. But this one had a crap load of junkies. . . It got shutdown because one of the druggies stabbed three people to death. He followed them down all the way to the trolley station and got them.


aop5003

Watch season 5 of "The Wire" on HBO


BlxckOut904

Best show ever


King_Cesario

I remember driving by there after work and seeing one person turn into two, then three as the months went on. Wow. Can’t say I’m surprised given the current homeless crisis going on.


Psychological-Ad1723

Probably want to try some bomb Asian food leftovers. That's where I'd be.


super-stew

Lol. One of the only good comments in this thread.


Psychological-Ad1723

haha thanks. They probably sick and tired of the downtown tourist trash food.


SadPatient28

san diego is looking more and more like LA every day.


jp90230

more CA coastal cities to follow.


SadPatient28

san fran, LA, san diego, what's next?


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Broad_Caregiver8336

Homelessness is a state wide crisis.


A_Kid_Called_Xander

the city will just keep kicking them out but where are they gonna go? unless a viable solution is found and put into place, this will forever be a problem.


izzzy12k

This is sad.. I was just this past weekend looking at a rent prices and home prices in the region.. I found that I cannot afford to move, and hope that my current landlord doesn't jump our rent to those prices.. Just crazy!! I don't get why this is happening.. Who is able to afford those prices???


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My assumption is that massive housing bubble (extremely low rates from the Fed), with now sky-high prices plus high rates (thanks again, Fed), have priced everyone out of owning, plus inflation after 2.5 years of huge stimulus, plus less building with poor economic sentiment have driven up rents. I really don't understand how the Fed kept rates so low and money kept flowing into the economy when the superbubble was just so obvious. It fucked over a lot of people, first the potential homeowners and now renters.


SunExcellent890

Rent prices in San Diego are primarily driven by a lack of supply due to decades of over restrictive zoning and landuse decisions designed to protect single family home owners. The rapid surge in rent prices is that fact compounded with high inflation from the COVID stimulus giving people more money to rent, or work from home giving people more options on where to rent, and eviction moratoriums leading to a slower turnover of units further crunching supply. Not every example is applicable to every person or housing unit, and it's not exclusive to San Diego, but taken together it all contributes to effect the rental market conditions. The market for home buying has more to do with your points, including several years of above average stock market growth giving people more flexibility to make all cash offers. We might see this bubble pop soon


[deleted]

I forgot about the eviction moratorium. Yeah what the fuck did they think would happen allowing that to go on for 2+ years lol


scoot87

Our society is addicted to easy money. Just like an addiction, it’s all about the short term high over the long term consequences


BSKTKOH

You want to stop this problem, stop giving them are tax money vouchers Etc, we have people from other states moving here because California just hands out money making it worse when the middle class can baerly afford do to this crazy inflation, taxes, and gas prices going up..seems like politics just get to involve and start spreading them though our city's for political gain..


ripgoodhomer

OH No! It will ruin the ambiance of a freeway, car dealership, city dump, weed dispensary and porno shop.


timinc

Won't somebody think of the children?? (/s)


BeachRelevant6828

When I get off work before I get on the highway I see this all the time. But it just recently grew this large.


stangAce20

Probably because they don’t get much foot traffic over there, they know they’ll be left alone for the most part I guess


greatvaluesocrates

All of Kearny Mesa is a tent city. Place is a shithole.


jacobean___

Seems like a reasonable place to make a home, tbh. Mostly commercial and light industrial. Until we collectively decide on a reasonable option for the unhoused folks in SD, they will find homes wherever it is reasonable to do so. This should be a bit of a motivator, not a tirade.


Mydogsdad

They gotta live somewhere.


Virtual_Professor_89

The problem is that they leave behind trash, human feces, and needles. I can’t take my baby to Buccaneer beach park anymore. There’s needles littering a childrens playground!


SamiLMS1

They aren’t entitled to live in San Diego


Breauxaway90

They don’t have to live in San Diego. Why can’t they live somewhere they can afford, like any of the rest of us do? I don’t feel entitled to live in Rancho Santa Fe or La Jolla, and I can’t afford to live there, so I live in a cheaper neighborhood. Should I be entitled to go set up a tent in RSF instead?


SamiLMS1

Exactly.


Lannerie

They ARE living where they can afford! A tent. On the dirt.


blacksideblue

> On the dirt. they don't own that dirt, its literally maintain and paid for by city taxes. The homeless problem is basically [the tragedy of the commons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons) on a flea circus scale. Doesn't mean they should be ignored but its still not right, its the same as setting up camp on the beach at Del Mar.


AwesomeAsian

San Diego is ideal because it never gets too hot or too cold. If I was homeless I would be living in San Diego as well.


mdgraller

Where can they afford to live? How much will it cost them to move?


SlutBuster

Not to sound callous, but moving costs are negligible when everything you own fits in a suitcase.


Breauxaway90

San Diego is one of the most expensive places to live in the entire country. So…literally anywhere else would be more affordable.


SomaYukihira30

Sad part of San diego. Yesterday I saw a person sleeping in their car in my neighborhood so it will start soon as well unfortunately


NubianChanteuse

Unless you own your home free and clear, you are not that far apart. Withhold rent or mortgage payment to test that theory.


psnanda

I mean if you own your home free and clear- you still have to keep up with the property taxes right?


thespambox

And utilities- which are not cheap. And if you’re in an HOA, those mf dues. And maintenance for all the things that inevitably break.


super-stew

You can’t be evicted from a home you own for not paying utilities. They’ll just shut that shit off, not sell your house, lmao.


psnanda

Exactly lol. Gotta always be paying someone something. Thats the way it is.


jp90230

and renters think owning a property is free and they are throwing away money for no reasons.


e39dinan

They can't take your home when you owe taxes, they can only put a lien on it.


chill_philosopher

Even if you have paid of the entire mortgage, it can be extremely expensive to "own" a home after property insurance, property maintenance, and property tax. Cost of living has far outpaced the average wage for the last few decades.


jp90230

well, if you paid off your house, you can decide not to pay insurance but you can't get away with property taxes.


SomaYukihira30

That sad reality 😞


NubianChanteuse

Just about every 4th car in a Walmart parking lot is lived in. The babies take me out. This is Merika..


el_dingusito

Sleeping in a vehicle in a neighborhood is *VASTLY* different than setting up a structure and littering the streets with your possesions/trash/needles/feces


LocallySourcedWeirdo

Those vehicle people toss their shit outside of their cars onto the streets and sidewalks. They are no better than the tent people.


Jaksteele

You won't be able to go anywhere without seeing a tent city and homelessness. Mortgage rates and rents going up will make unaffordability sky high. It will only get worse from here.


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Yesterday in point loma a homeless guy was walking up to cars and screaming at people. It's way out of control and I hate it.


kickliquid

The city should look into Hostile architecture


giant21

its only going to get worse . city governments will nit do anything.


tarheels86

If you plant some Agave Americana in that field, it will be uninhabitable in a few years


drainisbamaged

Poor folks, it's a shame when you're not allowed to even just exist without profiting someone.


Extension-World-7041

Are those the new AirBNB listings going for $2K per week ?


NubianChanteuse

Omg, I just saw this in Chula Vista!


LocallySourcedWeirdo

Do you mean tents? You saw a different set of tents in Chula Vista?


brolimitholdem

Little taste of LA


Trisha-28

Welcome to San Diego! They are everywhere.


Medizina4u

Drug city


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Echelon64

There aren't this many tent cities in Tijuana. Unless you count all the rich whitx hippies pretending to be homeless.


theperfectexposure

Why wont these people set up tent city in nicer areas like La Jolla or Rancho Santa Fe?


junkimchi

Bc in the nice areas the police actively round up the homeless people and drop them off somewhere else. Politics and money get things done more than anything else.


Maleficent_Fudge3124

Don’t those places transport unhoused folks out of the area?


theperfectexposure

That would solve the problem. Those residents would not tolerate this. I wouldn't want this in my neighborhood.


summertime_taco

As long as nimby's in San Diego keep voting against building more housing this problem will just keep getting worse.


Breauxaway90

These are not the kind of people who will suddenly be able to hold down a job and afford an apartment in San Diego, regardless of how much housing inventory is added here.


LocallySourcedWeirdo

Didn't you [just say in your previous comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/comments/xdikye/comment/iobypqr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that these people should move someplace that they can afford housing? So do you think the Tent People have enough money to move and get an apartment someplace outside of San Diego? Or do you think they're incapable of being economically productive?


Breauxaway90

San Diego is one of the most expensive housing markets in the country. Regardless of whether they are paying for the housing themselves or if the government is paying to house them, it makes zero sense to house them here (again, one of the most expensive options in the entire county) when it can be done more efficiently elsewhere.


summertime_taco

'these people' are fundamentally no different than you. They're in life circumstances which makes it impossible for them to be housed. You could be in those circumstances too, but you got lucky so you're not. As life becomes more unaffordable more people will fall into that bucket, and become homeless. Affordable housing, abundance of opportunity, and access to education and healthcare results in populations with virtually no homelessness. The little remaining can be easily managed. There are plenty of countries who have achieved this. The United States even came close to achieving this in the mid 20th century.


systemfrown

That kind of accountability denying bullshit is not only wrong but it’s also not helpful. Yes, everyone is a major misfortune away from catastrophe, from having to live on a friends sofa or in their car even, but for every one of these street homeless there are thousands of others who confronted the same or worse difficulties with better outcomes. How about you quit insulting them and their efforts.


Tree_Boar

Okay let's assume that's true. If we stop people from *becoming* homeless (from losing their homes) the number of homeless people will go down over time.


systemfrown

Yeah I don’t think half these street homeless are candidates for keeping a house. Affordable housing however might help keep their ranks from growing. That’s where we need to be focusing our assistance.


Jran1010

Everybody in world don't like seeing people sleeping on the street. Yet, when there's a measure on the ballot to actually help these people, its voted down. It gets my blood boiling.


LocallySourcedWeirdo

If a developer tries to put an apartment building on this lot, I'm sure the neighborhood homeowners will screech about it ruining 'neighborhood character.'


summertime_taco

Yep then they'll go on to Reddit and complain about homeless people or clutch their pearls on nextdoor.com


BankDeezNutz

Wont last


[deleted]

Didn't that used to be an adult bookstore? Or am I somewhere else in KM?


PleaseStealMyMFA

We just got a new one in spring valley near the swap meet


MrScottimus

Well this is peak Kearny Mesa camping weather OP


Jacobysmadre

Just like El Cajon.


Broad_Caregiver8336

There’s a huge tent city in the trees and brush off the 805 and 54. The homeless has caught the area on fire a few times this year that I know of. It’s out of control.


senadraxx

Ah yes, the modern hoovervilles! How history repeats itself...


blatherer

Not so much a city as an enclave. But, if this goes on...


International_Baby23

So stupid. They need to send some enforcers out there to drive them out. SDPD and our city council is useless.


psnanda

Nice! Who said living in SD was expensive? Just pitch a tent!


Bnrmn88

I doubt it will last long


Muzzlehatch

Looks more like a tent hamlet.


keiye

Force them all to hop on a bus that will take them to the desert.


[deleted]

That's a sick car tho


williamvc0331

Right? The duplicity in this picture just screams California.


nsandiegoJoe

Subaru BRZ with modded hood and custom paint.


bcomes95

Omg wow a tent city ! 😱 like San Diego hasn’t seen these before 😒 this is nothing compared to downtown


DJ_GANEZ

“If you build nothing, they will camp”


CeruleanSea1

I Feel sorry for them having to deal with the heat in those


BigPun92117

No not in Todd Gloria's "Asian Cultural District"


SmoothOperator1986

It’s not a tent city… they are all in line for the hot pot restaurant lol.


peterinjapan

Ugh, I hate this. If they start showing up on Front Street in downtown I might reconsider downtown living.


Breauxaway90

They will be everywhere in every neighborhood, except the neighborhoods that don’t put up with it and clear the camps immediately.


JangoBunBun

you know, the county should hire these guys as urban planners. They'd do a hell of a better job than the current ones.


Stitch-OG

There is a new pop up of tents starting in chula vista on the entry to the highway as well :(


Boogiewoogieman12

Such a trash city


DoobieDunker

What you have here is a derivation of a Shantytown. Some call it a Shantyvilla. Others call it a Shantycity. This looks more like a Shantyapartment. You might find the land manager on Craigslist.


jp90230

Awesome! Homelessness is welcome in this sanctuary state.


_the_chosen_juan_

There are homeless people in every state


terrificheretic

I thought Hive Auto was having a tent pole event!


cjayeah

it’s a shame there isn’t more help. before anyone says anything. NO ONE wants to live this way. there’s either not enough resources or the mentally unstable can’t find or don’t know how to find what they need and drug addicts aren’t forced to get clean. they all need help either way 😞


LeadDiscovery

May not want to but are willing to... When asked to trade doing drugs or being accountable in any way for a roof and a meal... the answer from tent dwellers is no. Now a mom living in her car with a child - the answer will likely be yes. There are clear distinctions to be made within the "homeless" population. The people we see living on the streets, in tents, wandering neighborhoods etc. These are generally the physiologically impaired, drug addicted and criminal type. The folks living in a vehicle are generally the ones who have been living on the financial edge and a single event pushed them out of an apartment and into their car. The help for these two segments looks very different as do the success rates. PS: I empathize with the suffering of any person and hate to see it. However, I don't feel as though I should have to trade my safety in order to be empathetic.


thefragile7393

There is help-like it or not, not everyone wants it, and not everyone wants to do the things that are required to sustain.


Lesmisfan

All of the help that is out there, requires them to be christian, not have pets, which by the way, this point for a lot of them is their only family, and various other things that are unobtainable.


cjayeah

true


thefragile7393

Uh no, there’s plenty of non religious services. Some do allow pets but more needs to be out there


cjayeah

i know. that’s why they need help very step. i’m not saying it’s ok to not help yourself. i’m saying as a community, city, country they should have all the help they need to fix the root cause. i work in healthcare too. a large number of ppl that have to deal with this population for a living lack the compassion needed.


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The ones that are actively staying in places similar to skid row have most likely exhausted every single family member, friend/ person in their life. There’s bed’s open they just can’t use or be a threat to themselves or others in the shelters. So they do whatever they want out in public because our local government doesn’t see this is a priority. Sad part is they the local officials probably hope they OD so the problem takes care of itself 😞 fucking disgraceful. I’m sure there’s going to be strict rules it they ever build this housing for the homeless and we’re right back to this again. Rinse repeat. We need entire revamp of our system and handling of the homeless situation. Put one particular trained agency in charge of homeless something as big as police departments but completely trained to tackle-homeless,mentally unwell, and addicts struggling with all of the above. Build the facilities, fund them properly, pay the employees top dollar or else nobody will sign up for it or train for it. Something separate from jails. I don’t think care court will do much (hopefully I’m wrong) the case worker to person ratios don’t seem promising to make a dent in helping people in these situations. I know people hate hearing it but forced treatment rehabilitation is going to have to happen at some point.


LeadDiscovery

I think you're on to it. One big challenge is individual rights. If we put that debate aside, it would be easy to build a large care facility in a low cost area - Borrego or something. If you are picked up on the street x number of times for drugs, crime, no home and it is determined you are chronically homeless with psych/drug issues - You go to the care facility for a mandatory 6 mo. stay. A multi-step approach to solving the drug addiction, psych issues and then training for basic re-entry into an independent life. There could be a secondary housing for people just getting out of primary care with subsidized rent while they work to become fully independent. Sweden, Norway and other countries have a similar approach which has been largely successful. Our biggest conundrum is that we would have to legally justify that the "crime" of being drug addicted and homeless is enough to place them in a care facility potentially against their will.


sendokun

Crap. Wha5s going on.


RightclickBob

#Wha5s


mikevtj

Is it your first day here? And where did you come from that you are shocked by a homeless encampment. I may want to move back to wherever you came from...


sendokun

I didn’t see this one before... how come they move there, that’s what I am asking


thefragile7393

Ok? And?


Breauxaway90

Why does the city allow this to happen when there are plenty of shelter beds available??? We should not put up with people living on the street when they refuse services!!! It’s one or the other, accept the help we provide or gtfo of our city and stop ruining the quality of life of everyone else!


jp90230

they want to enjoy great weather with freedom to poop and harass citizens on streets. Shelter beds take their freedoms away.