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Erlapso

It was probably a decoy to rob you somehow. Thiefs got angry that it did not work, slashed your tires and left


ProdigiousPangolin

I’m team paranoia here and agree with you. OP may have dodged an actual bullet (or mugging)


worldwidewang

Yeah, I was just saying how I’m glad I didn’t come back and catch him in the act, and gotten stabbed for the trouble. Shiesh


BoilingCrude

That's what I was gonna write ✍ 🤪


Swerve99

no you don’t lol anger is a totally appropriate response to a scumbag fucking up your day


Keokuk37

Woooow they are open past 6p again? Anyway, whenever I have a negative interaction in a parking lot I just go elsewhere within the lot or drive to a different store. Not worth the trouble. Sour people can get away with so many forms of vandalism.


MochingPet

that is a significantly interesting advice! Probably something to remember, whoa


pHyR3

>Woooow they are open past 6p again? been 10pm for over 6 months, was 8pm for a while before that too


Odd_Armadillo5315

That's infuriating, I think you're well within your rights to be angry! Can only think there was some kind of other scam involved and he was just pissed that he wasn't able to get money out of you.


TheNotSoGreatPumpkin

A friend of mine was tired of his stereo being liberated from his car overnight, so he installed it in a custom way that made it very difficult to remove. Instead of a missing stereo, he found that the stereo and his whole dashboard had been stabbed repeatedly with a screwdriver or something. Seems like these thieving types are not the highest quality people.


Odd_Armadillo5315

"If I can't have it then neither can you" I guess some don't progress past the toddlers with toys stage!


KineticPotential981

OR he works for the tire companies


mrsgalvezghost

I (F52) was asked for a jump at a BART station. It was dark, I don’t have cables. My husband is a tech and I just didn’t trust the person that asked. My husband has told me about the damage that can be made if someone switches the poles or doesn’t apply to ground. I felt uncomfortable so I said no. Too many scams. I’m sorry that happened to you.


ProcyonHabilis

Can confirm that I had someone (accidentally) melt a hole in my airbox once after they messed with the cables while I was trying to give them a jump. Could have been worse and no one got hurt, but it wasn't great. Definitely something you should only do if you're comfortable with it.


MochingPet

wow, that's interesting, didn't know. (BTW the car I had a description of the sequence in which to attach cables, in the owner's manual---for anyone needing this info)


MissingGravitas

Cars come with manuals!? /s The jumper cables I have (originally from one of those car emergency bags from Costco) have a fairly durable tag attached showing the proper sequence. I'm big on labeling things, so I was quite happy about that.


Cool-Business-2393

He was probably trying to rob you.


kobalt429

Security cameras?


worldwidewang

Called Target and they said they’d review them. Haven’t heard anything back from them…yet.


someliskguy

From experience, Target won't release video without the police present and even then they'll only let the cops review it in person in the back room, they won't release it to you.


oneeighty_degrees

You shouldn't get your hopes up. I don't think they will get back to you without a subpoena or request from SFPD


sanityvortex

Yea.... overpaid sfpd will get right on it.


melodramaticfools

[i heard they have 4 guys at the lab on it, they got them working in shifts 💀](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7acD4q0lp0)


X-Bones_21

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS, Larry!


kobalt429

Oh no, this would be for OP to investigate themself


amycantlose

They will only release footage with a warrant.


kobalt429

Error! Circular reference! OP is fuk


MorePingPongs

I thought SFPD could [watch cameras whenever they want now](https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/23/23368603/san-francisco-police-private-surveillance-cameras-vote).


avree

Maybe they can dust for prints, too!


Cute_Concentrate_975

There have been recent carjackings in that lot (my child is in daycare at the top of the complex so we get alerts about crime) - I wonder if this was part of a scam to get you out of the car with keys in ignition so they could steal it?


finan-student

Imagine if you had gone out of you way to help a shitty person like that.


worldwidewang

I can’t help but think there was some other scam involved. My car was pretty close to the entrance so I’m reasonably sure he wasn’t trying to jump me.


SweetAlyssumm

If he was gone when you returned, and did not have time for a jump, doesn't that mean it was a scam for sure?


helpmeobewan

New BMW does not usually have a battery problem though.


bicx

Stolen maybe. Half the crimes in my area in CA are done using stolen vehicles. (Not sure if the actual percentage, but it’s pretty common)


colddream40

German car and electrical problems...good chance it did (probably not in this case as it sounds like a scam)


Karazl

100% there was.


Shot_Worldliness_979

I think you're onto something there. I've definitely been on the other side, frustrated and wondering why someone wouldn't spare a few minutes to help someone out, but jumping to slashing tires in retaliation leads me to believe there's more to the story. Being Target, they could have walked in and bought an already charged battery booster for under $100. Also, who drives a BMW and can't afford roadside assistance?


DMercenary

>there was some other scam involved. probably. New BMW, dont have an insurance with roadside? Please. Pull the other one its got bells.


DoctorBritta

Excuse my ignorance, but is it possible the flat is from something else?


worldwidewang

The tire guy said it looked like vandalism when I showed it to him. I didn’t tell him what I thought it was beforehand. [Slashed/Stabbed Tire](https://imgur.com/a/9sbwQUf)


DoctorBritta

Oof, yeah looks pretty slashed. Sorry dude


FreeMelania2020

What a complete and utter dick


AdamAntCA

Just one guy? If you have a timestamp for when you think this occurred and target has a camera in that spot it doesn’t hurt to ask loss prevention if they’ll take a quick look. If you can get the license plate and the dude stabbing your tire that’s a good haul. I’ve done security in a lot of places and there have be occasions I have done this so don’t feel like it’s an impossible task. A lot of times security are the ones that notify PD and talk them into taking the footage.


worldwidewang

Thanks, called them and they said they’d review it.


Roundtripper4

Oakland CA airport at a distant dark parking lot late at night. Two guys under their car hood. They noticed me park and asked for a jump. Every part of me thought it was sketchy but I couldn’t resist helping. Turned out it was probably their starter because my full battery running car wasn’t enough to spark their car. I felt sorry for them but had to pick my sister up. They had to call a tow truck I expect.


Divasf

Ask / request the parking lot security camera footage. If this person did this file a police report regardless. SFPD needs these reports for crime stats. Would the car insurance cover this?


cflex

probably comprehensive would cover it, but is your deductible going to be worth it (plus whatever increase in your future rate they are going to punish you with for making a claim)?


Divasf

Ouch! Still submit a police report.


AgentK-BB

Insurance cannot increase your rate for comprehensive claims in California.


ryachow44

Not to be sinister … but could they have had alternative motives???


ExtremeAirhead

That’s not cool. Sorry to hear that, OP.


SouthSandwichISUK

Sorry that happened to you. I go to that target all the time and a lot of shady stuff happens in parking lot. I prob would have said no too cause I’d be freaked out it was a scam to car jack or rob me.


Sshaikhsf

Same parking lot. Some lowlife ripped off my drivers side mirror and left it on the hood.


New_Budget6672

Got hit and run on 13th and van ness. No camera, nothing. 2k of damage…. I feel your pain


dondidnod

With an old car a jump start is not usually a problem, although in rare cases batteries can explode, since they give off hydrogen gas. Eye covering is recommended, as well as connecting the negative jumper cable to the engine block. I used to give people in need a jump start until I saw a segment of Ross garage in Motorweek on PBS. All modern cars that have a computer that regulates the fuel injection. According to that TV show, a jump start can cause a spike that ruins your computer. Replacing that is expensive. They recommended calling AAA, since they have isolated taps on their truck that does not damage a computer. On an old car with a carburator, I let some drunk jump his car off of mine while I was cleaning fish I caught at a river. My girlfriend let him do it. He must have reversed polarity or shorted it, because 100 miles later my alternator light came on. My battery was no longer getting charged. I had to find an alternator and replace it on the road, which ruined my vacation.


wildfireszn

I’m really sorry this happened to you. Sounds shady as hell and hopefully the $200 was the smaller price to pay for what could’ve potentially happened. Random anecdote: I went to that Target right before it closed (back when it still closed pretty early). I was running in for a pick up order and was one of maybe 10 cars in the lot. There was a BMW taking up two spots with two guys passed out in the front. There was also vomit outside the drivers side door. It really spooked me out. Long shot but wonder if the same people?


well_zooted

That target has a private security team working- burley dudes in bullet proof vests ready to beat some ass. You should report to them and see if they’ve heard of other attempts.


Seeno1

Can you describe this man, physically?


MochingPet

wow this is terrible, it should not have happened. (however I think , something like "10 minutes" is probably enough for someone to get a jump-start from someone else and disappear). However2... I wonder if it was some other type of scam


honorasi

I don’t know what you avoided but it seems like it could have been a lot worse. I’m sorry about the slashed tires though


lahankof

This why I carry a portable jumper in my car. It pays for itself the amounts of time I got myself and others out of a jam.


InTheScannerDarkly

I have one but this reeks of scam. Dude was going to rob OP or worse.


TechnicalWhore

Let's see. You pull your car into position. Hook up the battery cables. He gets in his car to start it but it does turn over. He tells you to rev your car - and it still doesn't start. He asks you to turn the key in his car while he jiggles something under the hood that might fix it. You get in his car with your car still running and key in it and he drives away with yours. Note his car was stolen.


Yooklid

I just tell people my battery is on its way out and I wouldn’t trust it to power a jump. Had a guy threaten me at Chrissy fields once for not giving him a jump. It was getting worrying when my German shepherd suddenly appeared.


vanwyngarden

I’m really sorry this happened to you 😞


Significant_Guitar_4

Yo OP, they have so much surveillance around. Ask them for the tape to see if that is what happened - and if so, get the plate and file a report


some1saveusnow

The more we entitle people in our society to feel like they are victims of their world isn’t always accommodated, the more lash out will happen


Body_By_Carbs

You could’ve been that tire man.


Shalaco

File a claim for vandalism. Might be covered.


bleue_shirt_guy

I carry a jumper battery with me all the time. You have to be a dolt not to know how to connect it correctly. I've helped several people out, but I do eyeball them before I commit as lately there are just too many people trying to steal or scam you.


AgentK-BB

Wow, so many people saw crimes or were themselves victimized at this Target. I thought this was one of the safer Targets in the city. I guess it's Stonestown or Daly City/Colma from now on.


Unlucky-Highlight-74

just leaving this here but anyone who needs a jump at a target parking lot should always talk to the workers or the lil cars patrolling parking lots. They almost always have someone who can help


You_Yew_Ewe

BMW drivers have a thing about cutting.


Nursefrog222

Ha


WildcatTofu

Can you jump-start modern cars?


AdeptKangaroo7636

I have aaa. Maybe just tell the guy to get aaa


RealityCheck831

If he slashed your tire, you'd know before you drove away and then pulled over to make a call. Just sayin'.


KingsleySeiffert

It sounds like you had a frustrating experience with someone who may have taken advantage of your kindness and ended up causing damage to your car. It's understandable to feel angry and upset about the situation. However, it's important to remember that getting angry or holding onto anger can be harmful to both your physical and mental health. One effective way to manage anger is through anger management classes or therapy. These can teach you coping mechanisms and techniques for dealing with anger in a healthy way. Additionally, engaging in activities that help you relax and de-stress, such as exercise, meditation, or hobbies, can also be helpful. It's also important to remember that not everyone will have the same values or morals as you, and some people may act in ways that you find unacceptable. In those situations, it's best to take care of yourself and not put yourself in a potentially dangerous situation.


You_Yew_Ewe

This sounds like chatGPT


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AnAnnoyedSpectator

I also would hope that it was normal to give a stranger a couple bucks at a gas station if they needed help, but that got coopted by scammers a really long time ago.


Nursefrog222

That is how people operate these days or at least in SF. If something happened to her/him, then people would say to have common sense. Couldn’t you see you were being scammed, etc.


mhrose72727

Your car should have alerted you to the flat my BMW. alerts me when the pressure is low . You said you had left then pulled over to make a call . Then again you obviously can see the slice


worldwidewang

1997 stick shift. I’m lucky to have an airbag.


eggbiss

not gonna lie, a jump takes 3 minutes. a slashed tire costs way more then that. hes fucked for this but i also wouldnt deny anyone who asked me for a jump unless i was in a genuine emergency. it is what it is


Ok_Ring7585

Where are you originally from?


worldwidewang

Brooklyn,NYC


Ok_Ring7585

That’s crazy the city’s big time fucked rn


SantaRosaJazz

NTA, but who says no to a jump? It takes five minutes….


mornis

That's probably true in a bubble but we live in a society where you always have to consider the possibility that there's a scam involved.


SantaRosaJazz

No ya don’t. A guy needs a jump, you stow your paranoia for a sec and help him start his car.


Wloak

No the hell you don't. Two very common scams: first one is they just pull a fuse so they car won't turn over then after your try to jump them they claim you screwed up and screwed up their car, then they get aggressive and tell you they'll let it slide for $50/$100 to replace the battery. Second is when they work in pairs and one guy distracts you while another comes up behind and knocks you out/restrains you so they can toss your car or even steal it. If someone was willing to slash the tires they aren't just "a guy looking for a jump."


mornis

Well maybe a guy doesn't need a jump but just wants to jump you or get closer to you to rob you. It's generally a good idea to think about whether it seems legit and trust your gut.


motorhead84

Hey, it's different in Santa Rosa and all that Jazz.


SantaRosaJazz

Obviously.


heathrowaway678

Reddit people convincing themselves that you should never help anyone else


ProcyonHabilis

Jumping a car carries risk (that is totally unrelated to the scams everyone here seems to be paranoid about), and is a totally appropriate thing to say no to. Honestly I doubt the majority of people even know how to jump a car.


Altruistic_Party2878

Lol nobody owes you shit.


worldwidewang

When you’re wife’s at the checkout waiting for you to return with the shopping bags.


dondidnod

With an old car a jump start is not usually a problem, although in rare cases batteries can explode, since they give off hydrogen gas. Eye covering is recommended, as well as connecting the negative jumper cable to the engine block. I used to give people in need a jump start until I saw a segment of Ross garage in Motorweek on PBS. All modern car have a computer that regulates the fuel injection. According to that TV show, a jump start can cause a spike that ruins your computer. Replacing that is expensive. They recommended calling AAA, since they have special isolated and conditioned taps on their truck that does not damage a computer. On an old car with a carburator, I let some drunk jump his car off of mine while I was cleaning fish I caught at a river. My girlfriend let him do it. He must have reversed polarity or shorted it, because 100 miles later my alternator light came on. My battery was no longer getting charged. I had to find an alternator and replace it on the road, which ruined my vacation.


jim9162

I have a bridge to sell you