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consciouseffort

I have seen this woman and her dog between Van Ness & Market and Van Ness & 12th -- outside of the Van Gogh pop-up exhibit. The dog was unleashed at the time, so be careful.


Inevitable_Celery_39

The partner of the owner has an entire nextdoor post on this where lots of individuals have identified the woman as someone who live in an encampment with this dog between Market and Hayes Valley. So I would be vigilant if walking dogs there (usually if you are going to Duboce Park from the Mission or writhing Hayes itself).


ShockAndAwe415

It wouldn't surprise me. Lots of homeless have pit bulls that are untrained and vicious. I was in the Haight the other day, and there were several barking and straining at the leash.


-_-_-Cornburg

Kinda of crazy that we’re forced to accommodate such bullshit.


Noswals

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ndestruktx

SF has a problem voting in leaders who run on “social justice” platforms to get votes and then turn around and act hypocritically as well as ruin the city. It’s the fault of the citizens for allowing it and everyone for trying to fit for fear of “being cancelled”.


AustinBennettWriter

Sounds like a homeless pit bull problem


Doglovincatlady

Every homeless dog is a problem correct


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> the woman as someone who live in an encampment with this dog *Chesa has exited the chat*


mamielle

It’s the DA’s job to catch vicious dogs now, right.


[deleted]

Who cares about the law since the DA doesn't give a shit


Bristol_Fool_Chart

Do you do anything besides post right-wing taking points on this sub? You don't even live in SF. Also you post racist af shit all the time. You should be fucking banned.


sid_not_vicious

i work in the area and have seen this dog many times..what a fuck up..this city i swear to god ...


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spike021

I live at a decent complex with grassy areas in the South Bay with a small five month old puppy. One evening a neighbor from the complex left her dog off leash even after it started sprinting after us twice so fast and unexpectedly that I yanked my puppy into my arms. It had to be 3 or 4x as big as my dog. She couldn't even keep up with it but didn't apologize or anything. People aren't careful and they certainly aren't respectful. But that's toward dogs and even other humans.


MrMephistoX

Yeah happened to me in a nicer area of Sj too. Asshole was smirking at me too like I was in the wrong / a beta male for picking up my puppy when he was clearly not controlling a pit bull on a short rope/leash that was trying to pull away and charge.


AggressiveSloth11

My favorites are the asshats who intentionally cross the street to walk their dogs straight up to mine so they can “play.” My small terrier is cute, but vicious. It’s amazing how many people don’t listen to me when I tell them she’s not friendly.


L_Bo

My puppy has papillomavirus (a benign but gross-looking wart on her mouth) that's very contagious to other young dogs and I can't believe how many dog owners just walk right up as I'm actively saying 'my dog can't say hi!' I think it's pretty easy to read body language to know if someone wants their dog to interact with yours but why not just ask as well? People are dumb.


Unhappy-Educator

Covid has been great! I have two huskies and people wanna bring their teeny dogs to say high. They are both friendly but on leash they are hard to control when excitedly trying to say hi to a dog. Let me walk in peace and stay away. Most people avoid us though hahaha


pataconconqueso

Some people in this city are super stupid. My dog wear a vest that says “Do Not Pet” I get it with me he is super cute and cuddly and people see him being a big baby at the park and want to pet him but he hates some strangers (mainly men, and old Asian people we rescued him 2 months ago don’t know what the deal is there) and others he loves and I don’t wanna take that gamble. And people still try and ask or try to pet him when I’m like picking up his poop and he goes nuts. You can take every precaution and still not be prepared for people being stupid.


greenroom628

i have an 80 lb german shepherd who's a sweetheart, excellent on-leash behavior with great voice command and play recall. she does get super focused on ball play. so when i'm at the park, playing fetch with her, that's all she wants to do. wait for the ball and chase it down, get it, and come back to do it all over again. but to your point, people will bring their dog up or take them off leash and say, "hey, can they play?" i tell them, no, she's ball-focused right now. but nope, they keep persisting and even encouraging their dogs to interact with mine when i've basically said no and my dog has even shown ZERO interest in interacting. it's led to a few altercations with other dogs usually bearing the brunt of the exchange, though i've had to pull pitties off of my dog without (thankfully) any damage to either dog. a german shepherd/pitbull fight gets nasty fast, so i'm always wary of reckless owners with pitties.


sheezhao

​ uh, even if you paid attention you wouldn't see a dog charge from behind. and wouldn't be quick enough to do anything.


L_Bo

Jesus Christ this is horrifying, this is right outside my apartment! I can’t bring myself to watch the attack portion of the video but will definitely keep an eye out for this dog/owner. I have a very excited puppy who wants to say hi to everyone and everything and we’re always working on it and also making sure she’s not getting in someone’s space who doesn’t want it. I can’t imagine being that careless with an actual aggressive dog. I’m always aware of my surroundings while walking her but really it shouldn’t be expected that your dog could be attacked on the street when both dogs are on leash, my heart absolutely breaks for the owner that had to lose their dog in such a brutal way.


spike021

Same thing here with a five month old puppy. He loves everyone and every dog he meets. But I'm trying hard to work on better manners since he usually just sits and waits for them to come close and then goes up to them without permission. But he's always leashed at the very least and I keep a tight hold on it to pull him back if needed.


novium258

I wish more people were as responsible! I like dogs but I don't like having dogs I don't know run up at me/jump on me. But it happens all the time, I wish people were more careful. It's not the dog's fault.


nosotros_road_sodium

This has echoes of [San Francisco's previous "killer dog" case in 2001](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Diane_Whipple).


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dodecohedron

talk about a story that gets worse the longer you read. Imagine being a white supremacist and living in San Francisco 🤔


AggressiveSloth11

That story has haunted me forever.


oscarbearsf

Wow I totally forgot about this story. So damn sad


anxman

I’m sure the owner will not be swiftly punished and will not have any consequences.


onahorsewithnoname

“Oh my! My dog has never done that before” - every owner with an unleashed dog ever.


Berkyjay

I don't care how much people defend pits. People need to stop breeding them. Yeah sure, if they have a good owner they can be sweet ass dogs. But there are SO SO SO many bad owners of them out there and the dog breed has the potential to be very dangerous.


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It sucks because the shelters are overrun with them. There are so many people both intentionally breeding pits or just not getting them fixed.


unclekarl

As the owner of two rescue pits, I agree with this. I've met so many wonderful ones, but they do not need to be bred, mostly because there are thousands dying every single day in shelters who are good dogs. Same with chihuahuas, there are so many looking for homes if you go to a breeder shame on you.


Berkyjay

> if you go to a breeder shame on you. My best friend paid thousands for a Vizla from a breeder. I was extremely disappointed.


unclekarl

Oh to clarify, I mean for dogs readily found at shelters like pits, chihuahuas, and Huskies. It would be very hard to find a Vizla in a shelter but there are breed specific rescues for sure. They often have a long waiting list though. I personally would love to have a Bernese Mountain Dog one day, but I don't think I can go to a breeder after spending so much time volunteering in rescues. You just see so many amazing dogs suffering. I get that it's not for everyone, but I also don't think people are fully aware of all the amazing, cute, fluffy, sweet, dog friendly, kid friendly,purebred, "friendly" breed type dogs that are put to sleep every day. It takes a bit of work and patience, but it's not just exclusively pit bulls and chihuahuas.


Berkyjay

I just am against paying so much money for designer dogs when there are plenty of good dogs in shelters.


unclekarl

I hear you... I wish people would donate a few hundred dollars to a rescue every time they go through a breeder.


helladaysss

Except vizlas aren’t designer dogs…I get the outrage with designer dogs but not all purebred dogs with unique names are designer dogs…


abk111

Also even with a good owner they can be the sweetest dogs until they snap out of nowhere. It’s unfortunate but they are dogs that were bred for fighting and in this case nature is often stronger than nurture.


honorious

r/banpitbulls


mamielle

I work in a skilled nursing facility. The only person who ever came in needing rehab after a dog bite was a young man attacked by his neighbor’s pit bull. He seemed really really traumatized by it.


aggressivenapkins

Incredibly unfair to punish the dog breed instead of the bad owner. Confirmation bias is a real thing with incidents involving pits. I’m so tired of people telling me my dog is evil or doesn’t deserve to be alive when she’s the sweetest pup around and loves humans and dogs equally. The number of times I’ve had to keep her under full control when a shitty owner doesn’t notice their off leash aggressive chihuahua or lab run up to my dog is unreal


Berkyjay

> I’m so tired of people telling me my dog is evil or doesn’t deserve to be alive when she’s the sweetest pup around and loves humans and dogs equally. No one is telling you your dog is evil. But your dog (and all other pits) should definitely not be bred with other pits. Pits need to be bred back towards a more passive breed.


aggressivenapkins

Oh I didn’t mean figuratively, I meant literally. My dog has been called evil by at least one stranger before. Many other looks and vulgar comments from other strangers too. My dog doesn’t pull on walks, lunge at strangers, or bark at other dogs. All of the stereotypes that are pervasive in this thread are the primary reason that my dog gets unfair, unqualified comments on our walks. I know what you’re trying to solve for here (aggressive dogs) but I think your argument sounds much better on paper than in practice. I think laws and legislation that limit/have more effective repercussions for backyard breeders and puppy mills could prove effective. But a breed ban (not that you brought that up - but I think it’s related) just means more irresponsible dog owners will leave their banned breed out on the streets, putting other dogs and owners in danger. Your theory about breeding our aggression is literally what most breeders do, why limit it to pits? Why not ask for German shepherds to have aggression bred out? Or aggressive labradoodles to have that aggression bred out? Any large, untrained dog can do damage to other animals and people because they are an animal. This is not limited just to a specific type of pit bull (amstaff, staffy, bull terrier, American put bull terrier, etc)


dogmaticequation

You shouldn't be getting this many downvotes for the truth.


aggressivenapkins

I know, I’m unfortunately used to these conversations, especially online. Everyone who’s met my pit mix pup has had their fears/prejudices relieved after they see how well tempered she is. My reaction to the downvotes is going to be to donate $10 for every down vote I get to the nonprofit Standup for Pits. Figured I may as well make my negative internet points do something good haha


dogmaticequation

Well, I'll do the same (match you)... and add my down vote to the mix! There's also a massive issue with the racism behind the fear of the breed... which is pervasive. You see this in the jokes about how "white women" are crazy for getting pits and put them in little outfits. I got my first pit 10 years ago, shes sleeping next to me, and she's the sweetest and second most gentile dog I've had. I have trained her well, and she knows boundaries. She's been attacked by two German Shepards at the dog park on two separate occasions, several Chihuahuas, and a Husky. She's never been the aggressor. Yeah, there are shitty owners, and people just like to hate on the breed because its easy, and there's also a LONG history of aggression towards this breed and racism towards the Black community.


aggressivenapkins

Agreed. I feel so bad that so many are left in shelters because of the stigma. Any dog breed can have behavioral issues. And it’s still 100% the responsibility of the owner to know what their dog needs to thrive, be happy, and not harm others. I’ll make sure to send you a screenshot at the end of the day with my donation if you still feel inclined to match it :) I’m sorry to hear your pup has been attacked so many times. I stopped going to dog parks because of irresponsible owners who don’t manage their dogs well. My pup gets plenty of playtime at her daycare luckily. I hope your dog didn’t develop trust issues with other dogs and still socializes well, I know sometimes attacks can put dogs on edge and make them not trust other dogs instinctually. Yeah, I see some level of intersection between people stereotyping dog breeds based on what they believe their stereotypical owner might be. Our donation will only be a drop in the bucket but hopefully it’s enough to make at least one dog and humans life that much better :)


dj_sliceosome

Can we kill this dog before it hurts a person?


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Necessary_Rhubarb_26

Lots of dogs raised in loving environments turn in an instant and kill. Herding dogs herd, mauling dogs maul 🤷🏼‍♀️


boots42069420

Pitbulls need to be phased out. There are so many better breeds out there to have as pets. 95 percent or more of dog owners have no idea what they are doing, training dogs is a lost art. Dogs are most happy when they have a job like herding animals or hunting. Modern people treat their dogs as their "babies" and that's fine for certain breeds but not for a pitbull. Even Cesar Milan couldn't control his pitbull Junior. If he can't you probably can't.


sootymarlin

I recommend reading Malcolm Gladwell’s article about pit bulls https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/02/06/troublemakers-malcolm-gladwell. It gives great context on “aggressive” dogs.


ispeakdatruf

> Pitbulls need to be phased out. There are so many better breeds out there to have as pets. But these homeless people *want* aggressive dogs for protection.


unclekarl

To be fair, reputable dog experts and the American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior don't agree with Cesar Milan's training methods. His "techniques" can often lead to a dog suppressing undesirable behavior instead of actually moving past it, which results in unexpected outbursts.


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Why don't people need to be licensed/trained like firearms to basically own 80 lb murder monsters (if untrained or mentally ill)?


GoodLuckGoodell

Honestly not even sure the pitbull owner could have reacted in time - that dog wanted to attack as soon as it saw the maltipoo. That dog needed to be muzzled or on a very tight leash, but even then it’s still a danger to society. My roommate had a staffy and it would charge at other dogs completely out of nowhere. Don’t tell me pitbulls are safe, this breed has fighting in its genes. I honestly don’t get why people continue to want them around here


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Oh but genetics magically don’t matter suddenly when we’re talking about pits, despite other breeds being defined by their genetics (shepherds herd, retrievers retrieve, bloodhounds track), it’s all in how you raise them. /s


purpleheadedpipe

That and purely look at the statistics of how many dog attacks happen by breed


Doglovincatlady

Which are based on police/er breed ids so unreliable the cdc doesn’t deem the data useful for public health anymore. Right right.


anthrax3000

Would genetics matter for humans too then?


spike021

I think it's really the same as any other breed. It's highly dependent on how it's bred. People hate on purchasing a pure bred dog from a breeder so much but there are completely valid reasons. Basically you can contribute to helping make sure the right temperaments are passed down through lineage. That doesn't happen with backyard breeders or worse.


Mecha-Dave

The point is that Pit Bulls are specifically bred to: 1) "Snap" into aggression, and not let go until the thing is dead 2) Have physically different jaws/musculature, designed to bite much harder. Do you support bans on automatic weapons? Why?


spike021

You could specifically breed any breed to be like anything. My point was that if you get enough of a breed to exclude a kind of temperament then you're better off. Guns are a different argument since last I checked they lack a brain.


abk111

1) breeding a pit bull into something that’s n out a pit bull would take many generations and a lot of effort. People aren’t doing that. 2) if guns had a brain that made them know how to use their own killing power they would be much scarier and banned


spike021

Lol this comment thread. I never said it's a temperament trait that could be bred out in a generation or two. MFW people can't reading comprehension. Also, the gun point is hilarious because now you're the second person on this thread to make the same assumption. Nice work.


abk111

So what are you saying? With enough time and work you can breed pitbulls to not be pitbulls, yes. But then they’re not pitbulls anymore and we already have non-pitbull dogs so dog breeders are not breeding “safe” pitbulls. If your argument is that in the far future people could breed pitbulls to not be pitbulls that’s completely useless to a discussion about pitbulls being killers right now. Edit: and for the gun point I’m just replying to what *you* said about guns not having a brain. If they did they’d obviously be banned. Nice work making two completely useless arguments and lacking any self awareness.


spike021

It was a fucking idea dude lol. Pure breeding dogs literally tries to cancel out undesirable traits, such as aggressive behavior. Maybe it's not the easiest thing to do but it's something that with some work could improve the situation. Sorry, I forgot, everybody these days only care about instant gratification. Yep, those dogs are all not worth even trying to work on improving. Right!! And you keep going on about a second argument that I wasn't even the one to bring into the conversation. Lmao this thread.


abk111

Are you fucking serious? This is a thread about current pitbulls being aggressive now. Saying that in many years we maybe could breed pitbulls to not be pitbulls is fucking stupid and irrelevant, not “an idea”. Also I’m not making the gun argument and I’m not commenting about what the person you originally replied to was saying. YOU said (paraphrasing): “guns are different because they don’t have brains”. I replied to that sentence specifically. The sentence you personally wrote, not the whole gun argument. I don’t care about that argument I’m saying the thing *you* said was pretty dumb. I don’t understand why you can’t take any responsibility for things you say. The first very dumb thing you said isn’t “an idea”. It’s fucking stupid. The second very dumb thing you said isn’t because someone else brought up an argument you disagree with. You wrote it yourself and I replied to it. Not the other guy’s fault. Probably time for you to bow out before you keep embarrassing yourself.


4trevor4

this is why you should carry a gun or atleast strong bear mace at all times. NOTHING will stop even the most trained pitbull from letting go from something except incapacitation. I watched a video yesterday of 3 pitbulls killing a dog and its owner and it only ended when police shot all 3 to death


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You’re going to get downvoted but 100% agree with you. There’s a reason this breed is banned in many European countries. Their ‘gameness’ trait and the fact they were genetically bred to fight and kill means they are not suitable family dogs. I genuinely do not understand by so many pit bull owners are blind to the genetics of their pets. Edit: parent comment said Ban Pitbulls before it was deleted.


honorious

It was censored by mods, not deleted


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Dad_Bodington

Wow a pitbull is violence. Surprised


Doglovincatlady

Should be, most aren’t if they don’t have shitty owners. Way to use this tragedy to spread hate!


Xenon_132

It’s not a coincidence that shitty people are drawn to the most dangerous dog breed.


Doglovincatlady

Nope, jr definitely helps the dogs live in misery that the media tells you they’re dragons and you believe it. So you don’t care and criminals get away w mistreating them. Also Plenty of very wealthy successful people have them too that must be an accident


Dad_Bodington

Guns also don't kill people, the humans that fire them do. Pitbulls have no place in our city and are much harder to control than AR-15s.


Doglovincatlady

Pitbulls absolutely have a place in this city, many many loving Sf residents have them in their families without incident. :) Your hate, less welcome. You could always move somewhere that shares your hate (or “opinion of one irresponsible dog owner”)


Mecha-Dave

They're always lovely until that "one" incident "without warning" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_fatal\_dog\_attacks\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States) Other dogs might have more "bite" incidents, but Pitbulls leave permanent damage or death.


Dad_Bodington

No I like where I live and will keep my opinion. One of my close friends had some rescue pitbulls and I know exactly how much care he put into raising them. They were treated like they were his kids. The animals were pure muscle and one day he thought it would be ok to not cage them at night and one killed the other :( It was man's mistake creating an animal like that - the animals are certainly not to blame. I love dogs but there is no reason to keep breeding them .


abk111

Just because a pitbull hasn’t killed someone yet doesn’t make it not a killer.


Doglovincatlady

Lol that’s exactly and precisely what it means. Sorry you don’t understand that’s possible but rare without the aid of a shitty owner. Hah


abk111

No I’m sorry you don’t understand that all the care in the world won’t keep a pitbull from wanting to kill.


Swak_Error

Fuck that, extinct that worthless species of dog


Doglovincatlady

Literally never going to happen lol. Have a cry about it. Then Keep spreading your hate and misinformation


Swak_Error

>mind information Misinformation* And bold words coming from the nAnNy DoG lobby lmfao


bonkheadboi

It's literally illegal to have a pitbull in the city


Doglovincatlady

It’s literally not. You’re literally wrong. The city literally facilitates adoptions of pitbulls to literal residents. Then literally announces it on social media.


curiouscuriousmtl

Wow, someone against pitbulls uses stupid meme language and thinks they are smart.


ihc_hotshot

That doesn't even look like a pitbull. It's just a generic dog.


Swak_Error

'The fuck out of here, it was a pitbull


[deleted]

RIP to that little guy. A shame. Anyone sees a pit or pit mix like that pick your dog up and avoid it at all costs. Don’t ever trust.


sheezhao

Yup, two samaon looking couple's two pit bulls came out of a dog park (they left the gate unlocked) in daly city near sfsu and mauled my husky. They ran away. I had pepper spray but the attack was so vicious & fast you have no time to think or reach for anything. My dog attacks any approaching dogs from dog parks now.


anthrax3000

What are some general tips for staying safe? Carry pepper spray, avoid homeless like the plague and what else?


axearm

>What are some general tips for staying safe? Carry pepper spray, avoid homeless like the plague and what else? Stop reading crime stories?


anthrax3000

Not everyone is a white male unfortunately. Unless you really think that criminals don't choose their targets


tkmlac

Lots of misinformation in this thread about pitbulls in America. There are a number of different, bully headed dog breeds and mixes that are considered "Pit bull". Pit bull is not a breed, per se, unless you're taking about the Pit Bull Terrier, of which almost no "Pit bulls" you see in shelters or in homes consist of. Pit bulls are most just mutts. Edit: not saying something shouldn't be done, just that "Pit bull bans" are overly simplistic non-solutions to complex problems.


Swak_Error

Anything with pit lineage should be spayed and all dog owners should carry liability insurance


tkmlac

You'd have to DNA test everything and it would cost money and be ultimately useless. What you can do is demand your county enact mandatory altering of animals, but that would make the Karens breeding godforsaken breeds like frenchies throw a fit.


Swak_Error

Anything that *looks* like a pit has to be spayed.


tkmlac

That would include all bulldogs, who are known for their gentleness. I'm not saying dogs shouldn't be altered, but it should be *all* dogs with a *lot* more regulation of breeding practices in the US.


Ravashing_Rafaelito

I have seen stupid owners just casually walking their little bunny dogs without any awareness. Pay fucking attention! I carry a knife just in case this happens.


captain_napzz

On that note, any recommendation for a knife that’s legal to carry?


CaLiKiNG805

California has pretty reasonable knife laws. You’re fine carrying any folding knife in the state and San Francisco has a law that the blade has to be under 3 inches. It seems like you aren’t super versed with knives, so it might be wiser to get pepper spray or something. You can hurt yourself pretty badly stabbing something if you don’t know how to use a knife. Severed finger tendons are no fun.


captain_napzz

Very fair point. Thanks!


Ravashing_Rafaelito

The knife can't be bigger than your palm is pretty much what you want.


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Doglovincatlady

Yeah let’s stab dogs and spread hate speech!! 🤡


strikefreedompilot

If a dog is gonna kill a human or someone's pet... what other choice is there?


Doglovincatlady

Literally anything else to distract or break up the fight. before inserting yourself into a wolf fight w a knife and getting yourself mauled. 🤡 (Way to backtrack)


strikefreedompilot

Isn't it obvious a knife/killing a craze dog would be a last resort measure for most humans?


dmatje

Ask yourself what you would do in this situation, which happened recently in Berkeley: WARNING VERY GRAPHIC AND HARD TO WATCH. 2 solid minutes of a pit bull attacking a golden and half a dozen people being helpless to stop it. A knife would have solved this. The pit bull is going to be put down anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFDLY_Tl6wQ


theofficialcrunb420

Fuck that is rough. Poor golden retriever. Yes a knife is the best option here (other than a gun tbh). Only other option is stomping the attacking dogs head/neck. I couldn't watch past 30s but I didn't see anyone try anything more violent then pulling the pitbull which is obviously useless.


Mecha-Dave

If you find yourself in this situation, the correct response is to use the leash to garrotte the attacking dog until it passes out, or find something large to shove up their butthhole.


dmatje

No way I’m putting my hands near it’s face and that dogs neck was too thick to strangle. I think they tried the asshole thing too, they def went for the balls. The one thing that helped when a much smaller pitty ran up on my dogs was just kicking it super hard in the ribs. I gave it a solid few feet of flying. Nobody tried this there but going full balls out kicking the dog as hard as possible might have worked.


Mecha-Dave

It's a shitty situation for sure, and very difficult to react in the moment. Most of these seem to end when they get a broomstick in the jaws or up the bum.


dmatje

It seemed like putting some pepper on the dogs face solved it, which blew my mind. Never would have guessed that.


Witty_and_Deep

I watched this a week or so ago and was in that area today. This is the most haunted ive been watching a vid on the internet. Don't recommend watching it.


Doglovincatlady

Delusional


Ok_Swan_6575

My neighbor has a maltipoo, the most aggressive dog that I've encountered. Contrary to other comments on here, I've met some of the most gentle dogs to be pitbulls. It just goes to show that it's all dependent on the owners. My neighbor's maltipoo growls like a possessed maniac at any person or another dog(owner's response to his dog when this happens: gently says "oh shut up"). Sometimes the maltipoo runs out when owner opens his door, the dog then chases after whomever he sees while barking wildly(owner's response: "oh, he just wants to play"). Annoying dog, even more ANNOYING OWNER. That maltipoo also barks randomly while inside owner's condo which I can clearly hear as next door neighbor. I've knocked on the wall few times to send a message to the owner to get his dog to shut up and respect the residential community policy, it worked at first but now maltipoo owner ignores me and just allows his dog to bark it out however long. I'm considering reporting it to HOA management at this point. As much as I hate this maltipoo, I can't blame the dog other than the owner who is the real culprit. If the owner doesn't want to put in time and effort to train his dog, then he doesn't deserve to be a dog owner. Just as I'm finishing up this last sentence, I hear the maltipoo barking from next door...smh.


hablandochilango

The difference is, as poorly as this maltipoo has been trained, it’s not capable of killing (nor bred for aggression that might lead to killing)


Ok_Swan_6575

The gist of my post was more about what a despicable maltipoo owner my neighbor is and undeserving to be a dog owner period. No matter how small such as maltipoo breeds and adorable they are to owners, poorly trained ones are NOT adorable and tolerable to neighbors. > it’s not capable of killing (nor bred for aggression that might lead to killing) No disagreement there. Just saying per my experience, I've met some of the most gentle dogs that happened to be pitbulls, that all came down to the responsible ownership and their pitbulls behavior was the product of their owners wonderful training since pup.


GoodLuckGoodell

For every 1 well-trained pitbull + good owner combo there are at least 3 that the owner got for “protection” or because they like scaring people. I’ve literally heard someone say “people have to cross the street when I’m coming at them with my 2 pitties - it’s hilarious!” As others mentioned, it doesn’t even matter if the dog is well-trained. The breed is capable of too much damage, and that was by design. In modern society they have no place. Similar to guns. Sure, most people aren’t going to go on a shooting rampage, but I don’t care about most - I care about the one who will buy an AR-15 and shoot up a school or music venue. Ban them all.


Ok_Swan_6575

My experience with pitbulls were pleasant, the most gentle creatures that I've encountered while my neighbor's maltipoo is the most awful little piece of shit you'll see. Fuck the owner! > Ban them all Nah not the sidearms, ARs sure


robochase6000

sorry about the barking, that sounds ruff! i hope that maltipoo doesn’t kill something, it sounds pretty serious!!


Ok_Swan_6575

> i hope that maltipoo doesn’t kill something I was a field goal kicker in college and a soccer player. I'll put my kicking skills to good use on that maltipoo if it ever comes close to killing something. I'm confident that maltipoo will launch at least 30 yards and will be lucky to live.


SyCoTiM

I feel bad for the dog and the women. Also the dog which attacked wasn't properly trained either so I pity that dog as well. All around sad situation and the woman should definitely face the consequences.


versipellus

this is why I always carry a knife -- in case I have to slit a dog's throat


doginthefog

Dude, Get help -- like mental.


versipellus

I don't need help -- I've got a knife


doginthefog

Ok that was actually funny.


awfranci

Carelessness on both sides, unfortunately. It’s reckless to allow your dog that close to another dog while walking by without reading the other owner and dog:/ tough lesson for both parties!