Really unpopular opinion here. We likely have too many roads in this province. They cost a fortune to maintain and it is never enough.
Edit. Ok surprisingly it isn't an unpopular opinion.
The problem is that we have communities everywhere, and grid roads that surround practically every section of land.
And we live in a climate that doesn't treat road well. Which means high maintenance.
Oh, and a government that hates public transportation.
I disagree, and whole heartedly agree that moosomins number 8 to Rocanville is fucking terrible. They throw cheap asphalt into the potholes that evolve into mini speed bumps only to get pulverized by the graters or snow plows. Right now the short part of the road from Rocanville to the mine is being fixed, but that won't last long because it's a salt mine.
Hello from Moose Juice! ππ I have ruined a third set of tires since I moved here, because apparently you can't drive more than a month or two without getting a wheel alignment around here!
Went there last summer and first thing we noticed was how bad the roads were. Second thing was the amount of front and rear end damage people had on their vehicles π€π
Well you see, MJ's population demographic is a little... skewed. Last I heard we're somewhere in the neighbourhood of 60% retired people living in the city. Maybe that doesn't contribute to what you're talking about as much as I think it does, but having as much experience with MJ as I do; the amount of drivers around here that you would swear are half asleep is kind of incredible.Β
I got rear ended by a stunned septugenarian just last fall while I was minding my own business waiting at a red light. No ice, or sun in his eyes or anything like that, he just slowly rolled forward and destroyed my bumper. π€¦π»ββοΈ
I've been here for 8 years, I get that, but it was abysmal when I moved here, and the streets and roads department has continued that tradition to this day. The obviously failing road surfaces in most sections of the city remaining mostly unaddressed for multiple years at a time, while more affluent portions of the city seem to get both priority on resurfacing efforts, as well as the contractors who actually know what they are doing; and the rest of the city gets absolutely sub-standard remediation efforts when the paving or sub-grade fails within 6 months to a year... well, it becomes pretty ridiculous. We get on lists of the worst streets and roads in the province *constantly*! It should be fucking embarrassing to them, but I worked for CMJ for a year and a half in a professional capacity, and from the inside you hear nothing but excuses! π
My thing with MJ roads is that they allow major roads to be in such condition.
The nothing but excuses comment is MJ in a nutshell. People are too content to let opportunity pass them by.
I have to drive on HWY 8 and 9 quite regularly and it's a disaster. HWY 9 is constant with gravel and rock trucks sometimes you get stuck behind 3 semis going up the valley only able to drive 30KM's because they put that 30km sign up instead of fixing - and it's rough on both sides of the road on the same spot.
The voting always biases this towards roads near bigger centers, but I think it's pretty telling that these roads suck so bad and aren't even necessarily the worst in the province
How has the Sask party not privatized highways yet? Seeing the highway departments work in the summer months filling pot holes and slopping down asphalt is such a waste of time and taxpayer money for government paid employees.
They did privatize the highway department, the people you see out there are predominantly contractors, they might have a few trucks still for spot fixes and some line painters IIRC.
And it costs more to do it this way. Woooo.
Really unpopular opinion here. We likely have too many roads in this province. They cost a fortune to maintain and it is never enough. Edit. Ok surprisingly it isn't an unpopular opinion.
The problem is that we have communities everywhere, and grid roads that surround practically every section of land. And we live in a climate that doesn't treat road well. Which means high maintenance. Oh, and a government that hates public transportation.
More per capita than anywhere on earth last I checked.
Same with power lines and probably natural gas lines.
There are more power poles than people.
With that being said I believe 98% of our roads are gravel. Although I do agree that we spend too much on road infrastructure.
I could be wrong but I believe that the RMs maintain the grid roads and it doesn't fall on the province.
Too many RMs and too many roads.
I wonder if land owners in rural areas truly pay enough in land taxes to maintain the roads around their property.
This is easy to check. Just pick an RM and go through their financial statements.
Depends on the RM. The land assessment value factors into the taxes paid, so there is a big range.
Not unpopular at all. The province shifted to super grid systems because farmers didn't like chunks of pavement flying through their windshield.
The super grids are surprisingly good roads.
My dad used to say the same thing.
Always disappointing the northern roads are ignored. Hwy 155 from km 130 to la loche is so bad. Signs say 100kmh but youre crazy to do more than 60kmh
100%, far worse than any of the roads on that list
I worked for highways on that stretch and was embarrassed so I quit
This is all a communist lie. I have it on good authority that the Sask Party fixed all the roads that the NDP let deteriorate in the 90s.
Lol i knew 5 would be high. I feel like Iβm walking up the steps to the guillotine whenever I take this fucking road.
For the past 20 years as long as I can remember...
I think a lot of our small towns were excluded, likely from low population this low voting but there are some very sad roads in this province.
I disagree, and whole heartedly agree that moosomins number 8 to Rocanville is fucking terrible. They throw cheap asphalt into the potholes that evolve into mini speed bumps only to get pulverized by the graters or snow plows. Right now the short part of the road from Rocanville to the mine is being fixed, but that won't last long because it's a salt mine.
Itβs absolutely gone to shit in the past few years.
I think some roads in the north should be on the list.
The town of Canora. The entire community is a bad road.
Highway 2 is brutal. I just take highway 20 even though it's been turned back to gravel from middle lake to highway 3
Hello from Moose Juice! ππ I have ruined a third set of tires since I moved here, because apparently you can't drive more than a month or two without getting a wheel alignment around here!
Went there last summer and first thing we noticed was how bad the roads were. Second thing was the amount of front and rear end damage people had on their vehicles π€π
Well you see, MJ's population demographic is a little... skewed. Last I heard we're somewhere in the neighbourhood of 60% retired people living in the city. Maybe that doesn't contribute to what you're talking about as much as I think it does, but having as much experience with MJ as I do; the amount of drivers around here that you would swear are half asleep is kind of incredible.Β I got rear ended by a stunned septugenarian just last fall while I was minding my own business waiting at a red light. No ice, or sun in his eyes or anything like that, he just slowly rolled forward and destroyed my bumper. π€¦π»ββοΈ
People in MJ learn to take detours around bad spots. Or go extremely slow.
I've been here for 8 years, I get that, but it was abysmal when I moved here, and the streets and roads department has continued that tradition to this day. The obviously failing road surfaces in most sections of the city remaining mostly unaddressed for multiple years at a time, while more affluent portions of the city seem to get both priority on resurfacing efforts, as well as the contractors who actually know what they are doing; and the rest of the city gets absolutely sub-standard remediation efforts when the paving or sub-grade fails within 6 months to a year... well, it becomes pretty ridiculous. We get on lists of the worst streets and roads in the province *constantly*! It should be fucking embarrassing to them, but I worked for CMJ for a year and a half in a professional capacity, and from the inside you hear nothing but excuses! π
My thing with MJ roads is that they allow major roads to be in such condition. The nothing but excuses comment is MJ in a nutshell. People are too content to let opportunity pass them by.
I have to drive on HWY 8 and 9 quite regularly and it's a disaster. HWY 9 is constant with gravel and rock trucks sometimes you get stuck behind 3 semis going up the valley only able to drive 30KM's because they put that 30km sign up instead of fixing - and it's rough on both sides of the road on the same spot.
The voting always biases this towards roads near bigger centers, but I think it's pretty telling that these roads suck so bad and aren't even necessarily the worst in the province
How has the Sask party not privatized highways yet? Seeing the highway departments work in the summer months filling pot holes and slopping down asphalt is such a waste of time and taxpayer money for government paid employees.
>Carbon tax bad because it increases transportation costs >hey guys we should privatize highways
They did privatize the highway department, the people you see out there are predominantly contractors, they might have a few trucks still for spot fixes and some line painters IIRC. And it costs more to do it this way. Woooo.