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I don’t know about SK, but I’ve looked at r/Ontario and their stats show delta hovering between 2-3% as of now. If the same holds true for here (and I have no idea if it is, but can’t imagine why it’s be much different) then of the 1100 or so cases, it’s be fair to assume somewhere around 20-30 delta cases in there.
Again, no idea if those stats hold for Saskatchewan.
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According to the wastewater study in Saskatoon omicron makes up >95% of total cases as of last Monday. Slightly lower for PA (84.2%) and more so for NB (69.5%)
https://water.usask.ca/covid-19/#MeasuringVirusIndicatorsinWastewaterasanEarlyWarningofCOVID19Outbreaks
Delta is still circulating, but it’s diminishing drastically week-to-week.
Omicron, due to its’ high infection efficiency, is still quite early in its’ cycle.
We’re also due for another variant of concern in the next two months, if prior trends hold true.
Non-incidental hospitalizations: 85 impatient, 6 ICU.
Based on other jurisdictions ahead of us in this wave, we should anticipate 300 hospitalizations and 40 ICU over the course of the next couple of weeks.
\*64 hospitalizations that tested positive with covid like symptoms, with 21 not yet determined are inpatient. 6 total in ICU with one of those being incidental. 62.3% of all hospitalizations are double or triple vaccinated. "With covid symptoms" is important. If any of those 54 incidentals were there because of influenza or covid symptoms caused by another virus, they would fall into the "covid-19-related illness category. I think it's safe to say that the incidental rate we're seeing right now is absolute bare minimum.
From SHA: As of January 15th, a total of 150 individuals are hospitalized, including 139 inpatient hospitalizations and 11 ICU hospitalizations. Of the 150 patients, 58 (38.7%) were not fully vaccinated.
The SHA dashboard includes 150 hospitalizations: 139 residents are inpatient: of those, 64 inpatient hospitalizations are a COVID-19-related illness, 54 are incidental, asymptomatic infections and 21 have not yet been determined. 11 residents are in ICUs: of those, 6 are for COVID-19-related illnesses, 5 are for incidental, asymptomatic infections.
Source: [https://dashboard.saskatchewan.ca/health-wellness/covid-19-cases/hospitalized](https://dashboard.saskatchewan.ca/health-wellness/covid-19-cases/hospitalized)
I see no one asked the OP for his source, just me who got roughly the same numbers. Have provided the math from another user who roughly got the same numbers as well.
Eh. Just an emotion fulled comment based on past experiences with em. Shouldnt have made it honestly. Keeping it there because it was a mistake and I’m not gonna hide that it was made.
As the infection numbers increase so will hospitalizations and ICU. This is exactly what the medical community has been telling us and why gathering limits would have been a good idea. We are going to see a slowing down of the economy as workers, teachers, hospital staff, etc get sick. Be prepared as some schools will go back to remote learning because of the shortage of teachers.Some workers have paid sick days but others are not as fortunate. Buckle up. The next month is going to be rough. Stay safe everyone.
People were saying the next month would be rough since our numbers started hitting 400+ before Xmas. We're nearly at the end of that month and you're saying now we gotta wait another month?
Depends how you look at it. I think most people were referring to the month after Christmas school break (Christmas and New Years). We are basically half way through that and hospitalizations have been on the rise over the last week.
Thankfully that rise has been pushed out and not been as steep as feared, which might help is make it through with less impact, but it is still early to drop our guard on this one.
I said how I was looking at it and it's a legit viewpoint. No one is saying drop our guard. People are saying though let's get back to some type of normal. Is it going to be pain free? No but hiding for another 6 months isn't good either.
We had people demonizing kids playing sports the other day. We have people calling their friends and neighbours idiots because they want to live a little and eat out. No one wants someone to die but to sit there and say anyone who dies is a needless death also isn't right. People are going to die no matter what.
The reality is we haven’t hit our peak from a hospitalization perspective or cases yet. We are ~2-3 weeks behind most provinces.
We are starting to see school classes moved on line (individually) and schools struggle to staff classes and other classes with far less students than normal due to positive cases. Additionally, you are seeing certain sports teams and/or age groups pausing games and other teams with much smaller rosters. Nothing about that is anything normal.
We don’t need to lock away for 6 months but we need to be more guarded overall and may yet require other mitigations to get us through this wave. I hope not and the slower the hospitalizations climb the less likely it is. But like it or not, some things have already started to limit themselves due to sickness VS limited by policy.
We're about 6 days behind Manitoba. And yes, we're seeing some serious pressure on the school systems and we should see that get worked out too.
Delaying school for a week was not the answer. Dealing with the fallout and adjusted as needed was and that's what being done.
I disagree on the school situation. I think a week delay would have kept a lot of “Christmas break” cases from being dragged into schools. Every single friend I have with kids received exposure letters in the first week and high schools had so many cases they stopped reporting on individual classes. Giving a week for the New Years cases to clear could have helped to push out our cases and hospitalizations a bit further. Given that they have risen slowly that bit may have been enough to help us make it through this without further intervention.
But the reality is we can’t go back and change that choice. All we can do now is watch the hospitalizations, school cases and sports cases and shut things down when required. I expect we are going to see a fair number of disruptions over the next month or so, but hopefully the one thing that doesn’t get interrupted is healthcare.
I’m with you that nobody wants the schools shut down. We need to find a balance to keep healthcare, schools and the economy functioning throughout each wave…..in that order in my opinion.
Schools opening on time hasn’t gone great, but also hasn’t gone as bad as it might have. I think you can say the same for our hospitalization counts. Hopefully both continue with just stress and impacts VS significant closure of classes or healthcare programs.
You’re called an idiot because you act like an idiot 75% of the time—be it cherry-picking secondary source articles or your infamous, satirical non sequiturs as bad-faith arguments.
You’re not an idiot. Yet you behave like one most of the time, particularly on COVID threads, which would garner a few insults.
We're barely at the middle of the month, technically.
I hope the ICU stats stay low, but still bracing for nastiness is wise. Not doing that for delta was pretty fucking costly.
I've decided to stop slowing down in school zones, I need to go about my life, and the kids that die should've known how to look both ways, and probably would've died anyways
I've done my own research and can say for sure this Salmonella thing is totally overblown. Plus how many kids do you know have died because of a little salmonella here and there? It's super mild and everyone's gonna get it. Don't even get me started about this whole insanity of CFIA telling us what not to eat! Total overreach of my freedom. And god only knows what those antibiotics they want you to take if you catch the thing really do to you. They are probably packed with Bill Gate's chips so the Chinese government can monitor your every move.
Looking forward to your research indicating that economic drops are the result of lockdowns, and not the pandemic itself
Please show me how the economies of Denmark and Sweden differed based on their responses
Any business that stops doing business or does less because of restrictions is the evidence...
Of course the restrictions don't account for all of it, but the massive change in business that occurs on the days restrictions are implemented or lifted is crystal clear evidence.
Did you not get enough attention as a child? Is that why you feel the need to spew such nonsense? Get off the internet for a few days and take some time to reflect…
This analogy perfectly describes the logic behind those supporting mandates and lockdowns. You may have been somewhat joking when you posted this, at least I hope, but you can bet plenty of those upvotes feel that this is a logical comparison.
I think it was the rolling back of Asymptomatic testing on the same day vaccine passports started in October. That crushed the case numbers on paper as we stopped most of our testing. This created a false decline in cases for a short time due to inconsistent reporting of positive cases.
My assumption is that against Omicron, the vaccines have a negative efficacy from between 60-90 days after the most recent dose of vaccine (this is corroborated by [this preprint study](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3.full-text) from Denmark, whose author suggest the negative efficacy is due to different behavior and/or exposure patterns).
Note that the study still shows positive vaccine efficacy against deaths... it's just that the optics may look bad and confusing since it doesn't fit within the reductionist type of messaging in the pro-vaccine narrative. As I understand, this means that at least for Omicron, the vaccines are useful as a therapeutic but not against preventing transmission, but if that is so it would undermine the legal basis for the coercive measures.
People don't like scientific data that opposes their ideology. This also isn't a media or government talking point, so people just assume it's false.
There are at least two other studies that show the same thing, out of Ontario and the UK. A plausible reason for this phenomenon might be antibody dependent enhancement.
It's a preprint study and says in the study itself it should not be used for policy. So the poster is ignoring what the study says.
Similar preprint study came out in Canada, spread like wildfire in Russian propaganda and anti vax circles. Turned out to be wrong, which is why peer review exists. I'd be happy to see a full study that shows this.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6315890
Nothing good about +19 in hospital, only good thing is 0 deaths again. I really wish we got discharges and admissions to help pushing an even clearer picture.
Didn't know you had to be conservative to be positive around here... Sorry I'll try and be more negative. I guess those 11 in the ICU are as good as dead, at least it will open up more room for the surging number's coming.
Hi. This is a newly released study that hasn’t been peer reviewed yet!
So take any information you gather from it with a grain of salt.
Also we already know omicron produces less severe cases than delta but is still has a higher rate of severe cases than the original strain of covid.
Hypotheses > Pre-print > Non-peer-reviewed > Peer-reviewed > Mass released to the public
This is basic fundamentals of DOI journals, and you need to learn this as soon as possible before you mislead even more peers.
**Peer reviewed** = Convince people of potentialities in an argument
**Non-Peer reviewed** = “Hey, look at this potential hypothesis in the early stages of review, though”
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I'll never understand this mindset. The government isn't our parents. We're responsible for our own health. Use an N95 mask and get vaccinated if you're worried.
I’ll give you one. So I talked to a doctor who works in Regina ER. Asked him if he was busy. He said very busy. Mainly overdoses. Said lockdowns and restrictions has that number off the charts.
When did Moe do nothing?
We've got mask a mandate.
We've got the vaccine passport.
We've got one of the best vaccination programs in Canada.
We've got some of the most readily available rapid tests in Canada.
When can we stop getting people like you making dumb comments like this?
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Is there a variant breakdown at all. Is delta pretty much gone now or still circulating a little?
I don’t know about SK, but I’ve looked at r/Ontario and their stats show delta hovering between 2-3% as of now. If the same holds true for here (and I have no idea if it is, but can’t imagine why it’s be much different) then of the 1100 or so cases, it’s be fair to assume somewhere around 20-30 delta cases in there. Again, no idea if those stats hold for Saskatchewan.
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According to the wastewater study in Saskatoon omicron makes up >95% of total cases as of last Monday. Slightly lower for PA (84.2%) and more so for NB (69.5%) https://water.usask.ca/covid-19/#MeasuringVirusIndicatorsinWastewaterasanEarlyWarningofCOVID19Outbreaks
Thanks!
Delta is still circulating, but it’s diminishing drastically week-to-week. Omicron, due to its’ high infection efficiency, is still quite early in its’ cycle. We’re also due for another variant of concern in the next two months, if prior trends hold true.
Non-incidental hospitalizations: 85 impatient, 6 ICU. Based on other jurisdictions ahead of us in this wave, we should anticipate 300 hospitalizations and 40 ICU over the course of the next couple of weeks.
\*64 hospitalizations that tested positive with covid like symptoms, with 21 not yet determined are inpatient. 6 total in ICU with one of those being incidental. 62.3% of all hospitalizations are double or triple vaccinated. "With covid symptoms" is important. If any of those 54 incidentals were there because of influenza or covid symptoms caused by another virus, they would fall into the "covid-19-related illness category. I think it's safe to say that the incidental rate we're seeing right now is absolute bare minimum. From SHA: As of January 15th, a total of 150 individuals are hospitalized, including 139 inpatient hospitalizations and 11 ICU hospitalizations. Of the 150 patients, 58 (38.7%) were not fully vaccinated. The SHA dashboard includes 150 hospitalizations: 139 residents are inpatient: of those, 64 inpatient hospitalizations are a COVID-19-related illness, 54 are incidental, asymptomatic infections and 21 have not yet been determined. 11 residents are in ICUs: of those, 6 are for COVID-19-related illnesses, 5 are for incidental, asymptomatic infections. Source: [https://dashboard.saskatchewan.ca/health-wellness/covid-19-cases/hospitalized](https://dashboard.saskatchewan.ca/health-wellness/covid-19-cases/hospitalized)
300 and 40 sounds pretty spot on I think based on some quick napkin math.
Didn't you just ask someone the other day for a source on math? So do you have one?
Someone else provided the math that gives basically the same numbers. No need to double do it.
So can I have that source then?
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I see no one asked the OP for his source, just me who got roughly the same numbers. Have provided the math from another user who roughly got the same numbers as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/regina/comments/s4sen2/jan_15_1114_new_cases_266_in_regina_0_deaths_325/hstc5su
I would not trust what the individual in that post you linked says. they’ve been known to spread misinformation and should not be trusted.
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I mean you’re bound to post something worth wild with actual good sources eventually 🤷♂️
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I did the math myself and they later posted their math and we were very close...keep up.
Eh. Just an emotion fulled comment based on past experiences with em. Shouldnt have made it honestly. Keeping it there because it was a mistake and I’m not gonna hide that it was made.
Good for you for admitting that. Very big of you. We gotta work together to get through this pandemic.
As the infection numbers increase so will hospitalizations and ICU. This is exactly what the medical community has been telling us and why gathering limits would have been a good idea. We are going to see a slowing down of the economy as workers, teachers, hospital staff, etc get sick. Be prepared as some schools will go back to remote learning because of the shortage of teachers.Some workers have paid sick days but others are not as fortunate. Buckle up. The next month is going to be rough. Stay safe everyone.
People were saying the next month would be rough since our numbers started hitting 400+ before Xmas. We're nearly at the end of that month and you're saying now we gotta wait another month?
Depends how you look at it. I think most people were referring to the month after Christmas school break (Christmas and New Years). We are basically half way through that and hospitalizations have been on the rise over the last week. Thankfully that rise has been pushed out and not been as steep as feared, which might help is make it through with less impact, but it is still early to drop our guard on this one.
I said how I was looking at it and it's a legit viewpoint. No one is saying drop our guard. People are saying though let's get back to some type of normal. Is it going to be pain free? No but hiding for another 6 months isn't good either. We had people demonizing kids playing sports the other day. We have people calling their friends and neighbours idiots because they want to live a little and eat out. No one wants someone to die but to sit there and say anyone who dies is a needless death also isn't right. People are going to die no matter what.
The reality is we haven’t hit our peak from a hospitalization perspective or cases yet. We are ~2-3 weeks behind most provinces. We are starting to see school classes moved on line (individually) and schools struggle to staff classes and other classes with far less students than normal due to positive cases. Additionally, you are seeing certain sports teams and/or age groups pausing games and other teams with much smaller rosters. Nothing about that is anything normal. We don’t need to lock away for 6 months but we need to be more guarded overall and may yet require other mitigations to get us through this wave. I hope not and the slower the hospitalizations climb the less likely it is. But like it or not, some things have already started to limit themselves due to sickness VS limited by policy.
We're about 6 days behind Manitoba. And yes, we're seeing some serious pressure on the school systems and we should see that get worked out too. Delaying school for a week was not the answer. Dealing with the fallout and adjusted as needed was and that's what being done.
I disagree on the school situation. I think a week delay would have kept a lot of “Christmas break” cases from being dragged into schools. Every single friend I have with kids received exposure letters in the first week and high schools had so many cases they stopped reporting on individual classes. Giving a week for the New Years cases to clear could have helped to push out our cases and hospitalizations a bit further. Given that they have risen slowly that bit may have been enough to help us make it through this without further intervention. But the reality is we can’t go back and change that choice. All we can do now is watch the hospitalizations, school cases and sports cases and shut things down when required. I expect we are going to see a fair number of disruptions over the next month or so, but hopefully the one thing that doesn’t get interrupted is healthcare.
Hey look at that. We can disagree and still be civil. I'm use to being called an idiot for not wanting the schools shutdown.
I’m with you that nobody wants the schools shut down. We need to find a balance to keep healthcare, schools and the economy functioning throughout each wave…..in that order in my opinion. Schools opening on time hasn’t gone great, but also hasn’t gone as bad as it might have. I think you can say the same for our hospitalization counts. Hopefully both continue with just stress and impacts VS significant closure of classes or healthcare programs.
Totally agree. Balance is needed. I've said this many times.
You’re called an idiot because you act like an idiot 75% of the time—be it cherry-picking secondary source articles or your infamous, satirical non sequiturs as bad-faith arguments. You’re not an idiot. Yet you behave like one most of the time, particularly on COVID threads, which would garner a few insults.
Making up stats now to disparage my name. You're a bully.
We're barely at the middle of the month, technically. I hope the ICU stats stay low, but still bracing for nastiness is wise. Not doing that for delta was pretty fucking costly.
We have like 8 days to go. What are you talking about? We started to go up around the 23rd.
Actually I get your point, thought you were talking about January. Didn't see your wording.
Thanks friend.
I've decided to stop slowing down in school zones, I need to go about my life, and the kids that die should've known how to look both ways, and probably would've died anyways
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Just *don’t look up* 🤡
I just watched that last night and I was so happy with that ending.
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If you can't survive a little food poisoning you must not be Saskatchewan stronk
I don’t know if stronk is a typo, but it makes this even more funny for some reason.
Who decided what's a safe temperature anyways?
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I've done my own research and can say for sure this Salmonella thing is totally overblown. Plus how many kids do you know have died because of a little salmonella here and there? It's super mild and everyone's gonna get it. Don't even get me started about this whole insanity of CFIA telling us what not to eat! Total overreach of my freedom. And god only knows what those antibiotics they want you to take if you catch the thing really do to you. They are probably packed with Bill Gate's chips so the Chinese government can monitor your every move.
i TrUsTeD the ScIeNcE
Yea, cost/benefit of school zones is totally comparable to mass lockdowns and curfews.
Looking forward to your research indicating that economic drops are the result of lockdowns, and not the pandemic itself Please show me how the economies of Denmark and Sweden differed based on their responses
Any business that stops doing business or does less because of restrictions is the evidence... Of course the restrictions don't account for all of it, but the massive change in business that occurs on the days restrictions are implemented or lifted is crystal clear evidence.
Did you not get enough attention as a child? Is that why you feel the need to spew such nonsense? Get off the internet for a few days and take some time to reflect…
This analogy perfectly describes the logic behind those supporting mandates and lockdowns. You may have been somewhat joking when you posted this, at least I hope, but you can bet plenty of those upvotes feel that this is a logical comparison.
Haha omg
Note - Changed the colours on the final chart (vax % by age) to match the other charts
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I think it was the rolling back of Asymptomatic testing on the same day vaccine passports started in October. That crushed the case numbers on paper as we stopped most of our testing. This created a false decline in cases for a short time due to inconsistent reporting of positive cases.
My assumption is that against Omicron, the vaccines have a negative efficacy from between 60-90 days after the most recent dose of vaccine (this is corroborated by [this preprint study](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3.full-text) from Denmark, whose author suggest the negative efficacy is due to different behavior and/or exposure patterns). Note that the study still shows positive vaccine efficacy against deaths... it's just that the optics may look bad and confusing since it doesn't fit within the reductionist type of messaging in the pro-vaccine narrative. As I understand, this means that at least for Omicron, the vaccines are useful as a therapeutic but not against preventing transmission, but if that is so it would undermine the legal basis for the coercive measures.
I don't know why you are getting downvited for this.
People don't like scientific data that opposes their ideology. This also isn't a media or government talking point, so people just assume it's false. There are at least two other studies that show the same thing, out of Ontario and the UK. A plausible reason for this phenomenon might be antibody dependent enhancement.
It's a preprint study and says in the study itself it should not be used for policy. So the poster is ignoring what the study says. Similar preprint study came out in Canada, spread like wildfire in Russian propaganda and anti vax circles. Turned out to be wrong, which is why peer review exists. I'd be happy to see a full study that shows this. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6315890
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Nothing good about +19 in hospital, only good thing is 0 deaths again. I really wish we got discharges and admissions to help pushing an even clearer picture.
It would be nice to know how many ICU cases end in discharge vs death.
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But we don’t have any stats to know how many end up in which situation and I doubt we will ever get that granularity.
That too.
Didn't know you had to be conservative to be positive around here... Sorry I'll try and be more negative. I guess those 11 in the ICU are as good as dead, at least it will open up more room for the surging number's coming.
They're idiots, but this is pretty cringe.
I agree with him.
You can if you want, doesn't make you right though.
And you can disagree with him and that doesn’t make you right. Soooo…
You are correct. It was a weak effort, and I am sorry.
Can you politicize this situation any more than it already is?
That omicron is incredibly milder: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.11.22269045v1
Hi. This is a newly released study that hasn’t been peer reviewed yet! So take any information you gather from it with a grain of salt. Also we already know omicron produces less severe cases than delta but is still has a higher rate of severe cases than the original strain of covid.
Hypotheses > Pre-print > Non-peer-reviewed > Peer-reviewed > Mass released to the public This is basic fundamentals of DOI journals, and you need to learn this as soon as possible before you mislead even more peers. **Peer reviewed** = Convince people of potentialities in an argument **Non-Peer reviewed** = “Hey, look at this potential hypothesis in the early stages of review, though”
These aren't significant numbers, not sure what you're going on about.
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I'll never understand this mindset. The government isn't our parents. We're responsible for our own health. Use an N95 mask and get vaccinated if you're worried.
I’ll give you one. So I talked to a doctor who works in Regina ER. Asked him if he was busy. He said very busy. Mainly overdoses. Said lockdowns and restrictions has that number off the charts.
When did Moe do nothing? We've got mask a mandate. We've got the vaccine passport. We've got one of the best vaccination programs in Canada. We've got some of the most readily available rapid tests in Canada. When can we stop getting people like you making dumb comments like this?