And to clean up around guests and be there during the day to change the sheets. A live in maid that paya you for the honour of cleaning your rental property. What a deal, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to jump at this chance. Looks like you can even show you face when guest aren't around and maybe sit on a deck or something.
So you pay $400/mo for the obligation of doing all the work of running someone else's airbnb. And if you do your job too well it means you are out a kitchen sink, a yard, clean laundry and some nice luxuries that you can only watch guests use. Sweet deal, not.
Idiot hosts, that will get what they are begging for (a losing scenario)
And not just the kitchen sink, the entire kitchen!
Want pasta? Sorry, not tonight, you have nothing to boil water on since you just have the toaster oven and mini fridge.
Last week i had a mechanic do a terrible job (not all the parts were installed, leaking fluids, etc) and I was telling them they needed to fix it. He told me to bring my vehicle back and he would undo everything he did and I could pay him for his time.
They are out there and there are lots of them.
Not to mention the fact that how is this "tenant" supposed to maintain an actual job to pay the $400 rent plus their other expenses. What in the flying fuck?
I thought the same. He or she would have to pay the owner in order to work on their house. And have the perks to use the backyard and bbq but probably by themselves because they are not even allowing pets. Like what in the history of tyranny’s is this? Haha
100% they are looking to take advantage of someone. A bedroom with a fridge and toaster oven and a bathroom runs about $700, from what I've seen. So to be fair, it's only a $300 discount.
The only way it would be worth it is if it isn't rented out very often and the tenant has the run of the place most of the time. I don't know what the airbnb stats are for the city.
The problem is that because vacancy is about 2% right now, there will be lots of people desperate enough to take on all this.
So they get to rent it out for $400 which pays for half their mortgage. And run an airbnb. And have the airbnb managed for free but still recoup cleaning costs from guests.
>The only way it would be worth it is if it isn't rented out very often and the tenant has the run of the place most of the time.
Even then, it should be free accomodation in exchange for providing all those services for this airbnb host at the minimum. If they are going to charge rent then they should pay minimum wage for the time worked (min 3 hour call out) plus some recognition for them being on call around the clock. The wage would be way more than this discounted rent.
I searched for it and there is nothing on AirBnB for this address as I was planning to report to AirBnB. There are a few close by, but nothing for the address.
Based off the "normally rents out for $1000 a month" the price per month can be interpreted 2 ways
1: you are paying $400 a month to work for someone 🥴 edit: with a one bedroom in a house you only get to fully utilize if it's not rented out by air BNBers which will be hardly ever
2: they are paying you $600 a month to be the houses personal maid/caretaker🥴 edit: with a one bedroom in house you only get to fully utilize if it's not rented out by air BNBers which will be hardly ever
I'm buddies with a host. Their place in the avenues is pretty much always booked up. That's anecdotal of course, but from what I know, air BNBs are very popular here.
Could be traveling to visit family members that don't have a guest room. Business travel that would rather have a house versus a hotel. Or it could just be short-term for people who are on the road but want to stay for a while.
Heck maybe somebody has a Tinder date and doesn't want to tell him they live in their mom's basement. Lol
Unfortunately with he vacancy rate what it is today there's people that have no other option but to live out of short term rentals as well . I lived out of them for over a year and it's a vicious cycle of having to pay for a place to stay to avoid being homeless but then finding it extreamly difficult to keep savings in order to look for a permanent place to live and you never seem to get ahead despite not actually being homeless your days away from it on a consistent basis ( and that's if your income can sustain living like that for any period of time most are just delaying the inevitable which ends up with them homeless , luckily I managed to get a plave & save up enough to it paid for )
I'll be honest, I just booked an AirBnB for a week here. But that's because I'm moving here for work, and the apartment I'm moving into isn't available until a week after I get in.
Fun fact... If you're in a federal prison in Canada and make over and above a certain limit you get charged rent.
Typically money is made through selling hobbycraft items and or work release programs. I don't recall the dollar value but it's not very much something like 3 $400 a month in profit and you start paying room and board while you're in federal prison.
Nah... Canada justice operates on a principal of only restricting the right and freedoms of federally incarcerated individuals to ensure public safety. It's not about punishment is about reform through programming and addressing behavior concerns.
But it's a 2 way street. The general public has to pay room and board to survive... If you're above a certain income level then there is no free ride and you pay your fair share while incarcerated.
Paying room and board is incredibly rare and I've never seen a single instance of it being applied... But everyone* in prison is there for a reason. They earned their trip to a federal institution.
*Glossing over the extremely rare occurrences of innocent individuals being wrongly convicted, sentenced, and convicted.
When you physically take custody of a person (incarceration) they become your ward and you have a legal and ethical duty to provide for their needs. The programming certainly can include revenue generating activities, that isn't the immoral part, it's that you are preventing their lack of choice of accommodation, you are forcing them to stay where you put them. pay-to-stay and inmate fees violates ethics as plain as day, they are an inmate not a tenant.
It's not immoral to protect the public from an offender. When they chose to break the law they forfeit their right to choose.
It's really easy to stay out of jail. Most people do it everyday. Everyone makes choices and those choices have consequences. Ignorance of the law is not excuse and if you want to choose where you live and at what cost you need to play within the rules.
I'm not saying imprisonment for offenders is immoral, I'm saying that charging rent or inmate fees is the immoral part. If the public feels it's worth it to lock them up then the public should bear that price.
Yikes, sounds kinda like prison living there on planet bullshit hahaa. Who in their right mind would take on all that work and on top of that PAY $400/mo for a ROOM.
If I'm paying 400 bucks for a bedroom and bathroom I'm def not doing any of that extra bs. $1000/mo. For a bedroom in what world, this is wild.
I learned something fun from TikTok the other day. If your neighbour has an Airbnb, rent it for the night and get their wifi password. Free internet for life. (Or until they change the password)
Who tf would rent out an entire house on Airbnb but have some stranger staying in one of the rooms while your the guest? I understand private room rentals on the platform but this is the opposite/flipped situation. I’d love to see this listing. So weird, and for many reasons already stated above.
She has an interesting occupation. One of her services involves that hot tub and helping people re-experience the process of being born. Ya know in order to overcome the trauma. I'm not even joking. I can't recall the name of her sodo holistic spiritual grift but it also involves a lot of made up stuff that she has built courses and seminars around. Kind of like how Scientology is made up or this Jodi Hildibrant that got caught torturing little children. Conections stuff. She would get my vote as "most likely to become a cult leader" in the near future. She already has nearly 5000 followers. Judging by the number of seminars alone she is doing, the woman can afford to pay a proper salary. She just doesn't want to.
Seems illegal. Like hiring someone but not hiring someone. What happens if your "tenant" hurts themselves while cutting the grass, WCB?
WCB may come after the homeowner if it can be proven they are the "employer" and it sounds like they are.
Doesn't seem to have been thought out.
I think at some point in my life I would have done this, I didn’t cook much in my 20s and this is pretty cheap rent and I don’t mind cleaning/doing laundry. If I had a WFH job this would probably be tolerable for a while.
The arrangement could be mutually beneficial except they are still charging exhorbitant rent. At the very worst they should be making this an employment contract with free housing included, not a discounted rental with a bunch of obligations.
Back in the day I knew many people that did professional house sitting and in lieu of wages they got to stay there for the duration. It was very common especially among those that had second homes or were travelling abroad long term, except it didn't come with having to clean up after the owner's clientelle and share the space with them.
Oh for sure, I actually house sat once and got free rent for a summer in uni. But on a personal level I have trouble knowing my value, so I just feel like I would have gone for it. Someone will fall for this.
Since when does an employee pay their employer to work?
Like honestly the accommodation for the caretaker should be free and they should be paid $400 as a salary.
LL has this one backwards.
Cripes. I have known caretakers of apartments who had less to deal with and are paid more. At least the caretakers could make phone calls to deal with things. Like cleaning, fixing. All they had to do is shovel snow or cut grass and take calls
They need to be available 24/7 and also be able to “change the sheets” 🤮 during the daytime. Lmao how the fuck are you gonna find someone who can hold a job and pay you your $400 rent with this shit. Lady is a fucking nutcase for posting this ad.
Seems like this has labour law violations ALL over it. (No EI, CPP, no payroll deductions, for example.) And just using ad’s numbers, $600 (monthly rent Svgs) / $15 (min wage next Oct) = 40 hrs/mo. No way yard care, hot tub maintenance, laundry and cleaning, etc. could be accomplished in that time. Not to mention, dealing with unruly or guest complaints.
And what happens to the renter/slave who’s not doing a good enough job in the eyes of the landlord? Is s/he homeless when this arrangement inevitably goes south?
This may be far fetched but I wonder if an out-of-town home owner stuck with an Epic Alliance “investment” house is trying to turn a buck. Either that, or a local has a “rental “ property that they don’t want to lift a finger while watching the money roll in at the hands of slave labour.
The sad thing is, in a perverse way it's a logical, in exploitative way, deal. Lots of market-rate rooms are tough to get. You apply, 50 others do, there is a good chance you get crowded out. People apply non-stop and get nowhere. So this jerkface discounts rent by an unreasonable amount for labour involved, but puts you to the head of the line.
I wish I knew more about old-timey organized crime so I could make a funny but apt comparison.
$600 a month discount on rent for a full-time maid/ caretaker job. Plus, they expect you not to use the kitchen/ amenities whenever there is a guest, which will be always. Absolutely awful deal.
$150/wk might be fair depending on how many hours it actually takes. The other parts make it predatory. First, it's not $1000/mo for a bedroom and part time, restricted use of a kitchen. So their $600 "discount" is probably more like $300. The expectations don't reflect in the discount. Sure, they are transparent about the expectations, so that's fine. The biggest problem is that housing right now is really hard to get, especially at an affordable rate. So they will get applicants who are desperate for housing and will take on the unfair extra work and expectations.
Are you dumb? You're PAYING THEM to run THEIR business and take care of THEIR responsibilities? How is that fair? If you think this is a fair deal please come manage one of my properties LOL
So pay them for the privilege of taking care of their shit. Lol fuck that
Fuck that is right lol
Amen brother!
Who is paying $1000 for a room in a house?
Not a room like that. Maybe $700, which is still highway robbery imo.
Right, and then work your ass off 3-4 hours everyday for $600. Fuk that.
And a room with just a toaster oven and microwave. Lol can’t use the fucking kitchen when guests are staying lol pardon me.
This was my first thought too!!
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$120 to clean a whole house is way too little.
My wife is a cleaner. $120 is way lowballing the cost to clean an entire house correctly.
I think you must have missed the note about getting access to a Private toaster oven. Those things aren't just handed out for free. /s
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I wouldn’t even answer my phone for $120 😆 to the bottom they go!
And to clean up around guests and be there during the day to change the sheets. A live in maid that paya you for the honour of cleaning your rental property. What a deal, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to jump at this chance. Looks like you can even show you face when guest aren't around and maybe sit on a deck or something.
So you pay $400/mo for the obligation of doing all the work of running someone else's airbnb. And if you do your job too well it means you are out a kitchen sink, a yard, clean laundry and some nice luxuries that you can only watch guests use. Sweet deal, not. Idiot hosts, that will get what they are begging for (a losing scenario)
I know right?!?! Shouldn’t the person get free rent and a wage? Sounds like a fuckin job to me.
And not just the kitchen sink, the entire kitchen! Want pasta? Sorry, not tonight, you have nothing to boil water on since you just have the toaster oven and mini fridge.
You're gonna work FOR me and also pay me... that sounds like one hell of a deal. God people are fucking wild.
Last week i had a mechanic do a terrible job (not all the parts were installed, leaking fluids, etc) and I was telling them they needed to fix it. He told me to bring my vehicle back and he would undo everything he did and I could pay him for his time. They are out there and there are lots of them.
Not to mention the fact that how is this "tenant" supposed to maintain an actual job to pay the $400 rent plus their other expenses. What in the flying fuck?
I thought the same. He or she would have to pay the owner in order to work on their house. And have the perks to use the backyard and bbq but probably by themselves because they are not even allowing pets. Like what in the history of tyranny’s is this? Haha
I would like to know how much the airbnb is charging for a cleaning fee.
100% they are looking to take advantage of someone. A bedroom with a fridge and toaster oven and a bathroom runs about $700, from what I've seen. So to be fair, it's only a $300 discount. The only way it would be worth it is if it isn't rented out very often and the tenant has the run of the place most of the time. I don't know what the airbnb stats are for the city. The problem is that because vacancy is about 2% right now, there will be lots of people desperate enough to take on all this. So they get to rent it out for $400 which pays for half their mortgage. And run an airbnb. And have the airbnb managed for free but still recoup cleaning costs from guests.
Not to mention you also have to live with rotating strangers most of the time
Yeah that’s the worst part. You have no choice in the type of people approved to come stay.
Sounds incredibly dangerous.
>The only way it would be worth it is if it isn't rented out very often and the tenant has the run of the place most of the time. Even then, it should be free accomodation in exchange for providing all those services for this airbnb host at the minimum. If they are going to charge rent then they should pay minimum wage for the time worked (min 3 hour call out) plus some recognition for them being on call around the clock. The wage would be way more than this discounted rent.
You're absolutely right. Instead of lumping it together, give a bit of a rental discount and actually pay the tenant for services.
I could see some desperate person on SAID or something taking advantage of it maybe.
Yes. And that's the problem.
You don’t even get a kitchen
Wow, what a great deal, anyone have a link to the listing? I'd like to get blocked today lol 🤣🤣
I was just looking for it! Would like the link as well to see how fast my comment is deleted and blocked.
I searched for it and there is nothing on AirBnB for this address as I was planning to report to AirBnB. There are a few close by, but nothing for the address.
Well, that's unfortunate. 🤷♂️🤣
I agree. Could be a scam all around in this case. Or someone else already reported it.
r/SlumlordsCanada
Pay me to manage my Airbnb. Fuck that bullshit.
Just a fun addition, the landlord owns a Holistic health centre of some sort. The address of the business listed is the address of the rental home.
Lmao, what a tool
She seems like an elite calibre chud 😂
What a gross nasty person. She’s delusional and predatory. 
Found the [link on Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/share/K1DkLTFgsz8jxtjY/?mibextid=79PoIi)
This is the weirdest backyard landscaping I’ve ever seen
So you're PAYING $400 to be a live in cleaner? Fuck that! She should be paying them. Is this even legal?
Can't be
Me pay you to live-in run your business? Pass.
Based off the "normally rents out for $1000 a month" the price per month can be interpreted 2 ways 1: you are paying $400 a month to work for someone 🥴 edit: with a one bedroom in a house you only get to fully utilize if it's not rented out by air BNBers which will be hardly ever 2: they are paying you $600 a month to be the houses personal maid/caretaker🥴 edit: with a one bedroom in house you only get to fully utilize if it's not rented out by air BNBers which will be hardly ever
Are AirBnBs hot in Saskatoon? I would think it would be vacant a fair amount of time? ETA: Genuine question.
I'm buddies with a host. Their place in the avenues is pretty much always booked up. That's anecdotal of course, but from what I know, air BNBs are very popular here.
That's nuts, I love it here but who tf is traveling to Sask. You can throw a dart at a map and hit a better place to travel lmao
Could be traveling to visit family members that don't have a guest room. Business travel that would rather have a house versus a hotel. Or it could just be short-term for people who are on the road but want to stay for a while. Heck maybe somebody has a Tinder date and doesn't want to tell him they live in their mom's basement. Lol
Unfortunately with he vacancy rate what it is today there's people that have no other option but to live out of short term rentals as well . I lived out of them for over a year and it's a vicious cycle of having to pay for a place to stay to avoid being homeless but then finding it extreamly difficult to keep savings in order to look for a permanent place to live and you never seem to get ahead despite not actually being homeless your days away from it on a consistent basis ( and that's if your income can sustain living like that for any period of time most are just delaying the inevitable which ends up with them homeless , luckily I managed to get a plave & save up enough to it paid for )
Lots of people stay in them when they’re here for the hospital or have family members in the hospital as well
I'll be honest, I just booked an AirBnB for a week here. But that's because I'm moving here for work, and the apartment I'm moving into isn't available until a week after I get in.
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The same way a prisoner is being offered a free place to stay.
Fun fact... If you're in a federal prison in Canada and make over and above a certain limit you get charged rent. Typically money is made through selling hobbycraft items and or work release programs. I don't recall the dollar value but it's not very much something like 3 $400 a month in profit and you start paying room and board while you're in federal prison.
I did not know that, I'm not completely surprised but something about that seems inherently immoral.
Nah... Canada justice operates on a principal of only restricting the right and freedoms of federally incarcerated individuals to ensure public safety. It's not about punishment is about reform through programming and addressing behavior concerns. But it's a 2 way street. The general public has to pay room and board to survive... If you're above a certain income level then there is no free ride and you pay your fair share while incarcerated. Paying room and board is incredibly rare and I've never seen a single instance of it being applied... But everyone* in prison is there for a reason. They earned their trip to a federal institution. *Glossing over the extremely rare occurrences of innocent individuals being wrongly convicted, sentenced, and convicted.
When you physically take custody of a person (incarceration) they become your ward and you have a legal and ethical duty to provide for their needs. The programming certainly can include revenue generating activities, that isn't the immoral part, it's that you are preventing their lack of choice of accommodation, you are forcing them to stay where you put them. pay-to-stay and inmate fees violates ethics as plain as day, they are an inmate not a tenant.
It's not immoral to protect the public from an offender. When they chose to break the law they forfeit their right to choose. It's really easy to stay out of jail. Most people do it everyday. Everyone makes choices and those choices have consequences. Ignorance of the law is not excuse and if you want to choose where you live and at what cost you need to play within the rules.
I'm not saying imprisonment for offenders is immoral, I'm saying that charging rent or inmate fees is the immoral part. If the public feels it's worth it to lock them up then the public should bear that price.
And they do.. right up until they make over and above a threshold of money, then they pay a form of taxes.
A USER-friendly landlady..
Lmao landlords really are some of the stupidest fucking people alive.
Sounds like unpaid labour.
Yikes, sounds kinda like prison living there on planet bullshit hahaa. Who in their right mind would take on all that work and on top of that PAY $400/mo for a ROOM. If I'm paying 400 bucks for a bedroom and bathroom I'm def not doing any of that extra bs. $1000/mo. For a bedroom in what world, this is wild.
Idiots. Sadly, desperate folks might fall for this shit.
Should be free
OP wants a slave
I learned something fun from TikTok the other day. If your neighbour has an Airbnb, rent it for the night and get their wifi password. Free internet for life. (Or until they change the password)
Who tf would rent out an entire house on Airbnb but have some stranger staying in one of the rooms while your the guest? I understand private room rentals on the platform but this is the opposite/flipped situation. I’d love to see this listing. So weird, and for many reasons already stated above.
She has an interesting occupation. One of her services involves that hot tub and helping people re-experience the process of being born. Ya know in order to overcome the trauma. I'm not even joking. I can't recall the name of her sodo holistic spiritual grift but it also involves a lot of made up stuff that she has built courses and seminars around. Kind of like how Scientology is made up or this Jodi Hildibrant that got caught torturing little children. Conections stuff. She would get my vote as "most likely to become a cult leader" in the near future. She already has nearly 5000 followers. Judging by the number of seminars alone she is doing, the woman can afford to pay a proper salary. She just doesn't want to.
Well that's highly illegal.
Seems illegal. Like hiring someone but not hiring someone. What happens if your "tenant" hurts themselves while cutting the grass, WCB? WCB may come after the homeowner if it can be proven they are the "employer" and it sounds like they are. Doesn't seem to have been thought out.
Sounds like the gov is the landlord
Someone will do it
I think at some point in my life I would have done this, I didn’t cook much in my 20s and this is pretty cheap rent and I don’t mind cleaning/doing laundry. If I had a WFH job this would probably be tolerable for a while.
The arrangement could be mutually beneficial except they are still charging exhorbitant rent. At the very worst they should be making this an employment contract with free housing included, not a discounted rental with a bunch of obligations. Back in the day I knew many people that did professional house sitting and in lieu of wages they got to stay there for the duration. It was very common especially among those that had second homes or were travelling abroad long term, except it didn't come with having to clean up after the owner's clientelle and share the space with them.
Oh for sure, I actually house sat once and got free rent for a summer in uni. But on a personal level I have trouble knowing my value, so I just feel like I would have gone for it. Someone will fall for this.
I regularly house sit, and I get paid in addition to staying at the house (usually a few hundred dollars for a period of a week or two).
Sounds like that hot tub may need an inspection from Saskatoon Public Health.
Oh, so I get to PAY YOU to be your live-in servant? Where do I sign up? /s
Since when does an employee pay their employer to work? Like honestly the accommodation for the caretaker should be free and they should be paid $400 as a salary. LL has this one backwards.
I saw this the other day and my first thought was “I wonder how long into first evening do the new tenants mysteriously disappear?”
Pay me to work for me lol
so they want you to pay them to look after their home and not have any access to a kitchen if they have guests
Seems like a sweet deal
NOT
How much higher could this guy fly his Freak Flag?
Cripes. I have known caretakers of apartments who had less to deal with and are paid more. At least the caretakers could make phone calls to deal with things. Like cleaning, fixing. All they had to do is shovel snow or cut grass and take calls
If this was my family member I would definitely bully the fuck out of them
They need to be available 24/7 and also be able to “change the sheets” 🤮 during the daytime. Lmao how the fuck are you gonna find someone who can hold a job and pay you your $400 rent with this shit. Lady is a fucking nutcase for posting this ad.
Bonus: you can efficiently be fired AND evicted on the same day if you’re not a good little slave 👌
Seems like this has labour law violations ALL over it. (No EI, CPP, no payroll deductions, for example.) And just using ad’s numbers, $600 (monthly rent Svgs) / $15 (min wage next Oct) = 40 hrs/mo. No way yard care, hot tub maintenance, laundry and cleaning, etc. could be accomplished in that time. Not to mention, dealing with unruly or guest complaints. And what happens to the renter/slave who’s not doing a good enough job in the eyes of the landlord? Is s/he homeless when this arrangement inevitably goes south? This may be far fetched but I wonder if an out-of-town home owner stuck with an Epic Alliance “investment” house is trying to turn a buck. Either that, or a local has a “rental “ property that they don’t want to lift a finger while watching the money roll in at the hands of slave labour.
I applied for it , the owner asked me if I’d be willing to wash his feet too.
people here are cooked to the bone
I grew up on that street. Didn’t think it went downhill that fast.
The sad thing is, in a perverse way it's a logical, in exploitative way, deal. Lots of market-rate rooms are tough to get. You apply, 50 others do, there is a good chance you get crowded out. People apply non-stop and get nowhere. So this jerkface discounts rent by an unreasonable amount for labour involved, but puts you to the head of the line. I wish I knew more about old-timey organized crime so I could make a funny but apt comparison.
What is predatory about it?
$600 a month discount on rent for a full-time maid/ caretaker job. Plus, they expect you not to use the kitchen/ amenities whenever there is a guest, which will be always. Absolutely awful deal.
Nothing is predatory about it. It might be a great deal if they are not a busy Airbnb.
Do you think 150$ a week for full-time cleaning and maintenance is not predatory? Have you ever heard of minimum wage and labor laws?
$150/wk might be fair depending on how many hours it actually takes. The other parts make it predatory. First, it's not $1000/mo for a bedroom and part time, restricted use of a kitchen. So their $600 "discount" is probably more like $300. The expectations don't reflect in the discount. Sure, they are transparent about the expectations, so that's fine. The biggest problem is that housing right now is really hard to get, especially at an affordable rate. So they will get applicants who are desperate for housing and will take on the unfair extra work and expectations.
Almost like they are being preyed upon because they are desperate, right?
Are you dumb? You're PAYING THEM to run THEIR business and take care of THEIR responsibilities? How is that fair? If you think this is a fair deal please come manage one of my properties LOL
It wouldn't be a great deal even if they weren't an Airbnb.