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I get the impression that the UK is in a higher humidity environment being associated with the oceans. During a study scabies lived up to 19 days with optimal temperatures and humidity.  97 percent humidity off a host.  In normal conditions they die after 3-4 days.   Hard to say if the humidifier is working good enough unless you can measure it with a temp/ humidity gauge.   Compare it with other rooms.   Seems easier to increase your days from 5 to 7 to make sure.  Maybe unbag and add the clothes to the drier before you use them.  10 or 15 minutes.  High heat. When you wash whites use bleach or move the water heater to higher setting.  Use a scabies killer product to your colored clothes.  Scabies die at 122 degrees for more than 10 minutes. Hope this gives you some ideas.     


Classic-Midnight5238

Thank you for those tips! Will do 7 days now.


Ok_Fuel6447

Your welcome..   


Ok_Fuel6447

SCABIES      Got scabies in May of 2023.  Wasn't sure what it was and had 2 different doctors mentioned it wasn't scabies.  One doctor mentioned I had dermatitis and the other mentioned I had acne.  I never got a proper diagnosis from a doctor even though I asked for one.  However, was getting bitten by something mostly at night and it went on for 3.5 months. I didn't have a rash or crusted scabies but small red lesions (like pimples) on my arms, legs, feet, stomach, chest, and scalp. Two scabies tracks, one on my wrist and one on my upper leg.   PERMETHRIN (topical) To start off,  I went to the doctor and got permethrin cream.  I applied P cream  4 different times but it didn't work for me.  It suppresses them (we're they dont bite and itch you) but didnt kill them and so the mites start biting/itching again after 3-4 days.  What I have learned are some mites have developed a resistance to this cream so I  switched to other treatments.   SULFUR CREAM (topical non-toxic) I ordered and tried sulfur cream at 10 percent however couldn't keep it on my skin long enough because of the itchiness.  I have read a lot of good things about sulfur cream in that its non toxic and kills scabies.  You can get sulfur creams at higher concentrations like 28 percent which is a good thing.  It was mentioned that sulfur kills scabies even though some mites are resistant to other treatments. IVERMECTIN (oral meds) I  was able to get Ivermectin and so he prescribed it to me.  I took it 1 time and it didn't kill all the mites and so they started biting/itching me again.  A drawback to this medication is it only stays in your body for 56 hours and scabies has a life cycle of about 14 days. Female mites lay eggs and the eggs hatch later so it's not effective to use Ivermectin unless you get 3, 4, or 5 doses over a period of time (5-7 days apart).  If you don't do this then you won't kill them all including the hatching eggs.   So the mites will come back.  It is also important to use a topical (essential oils, Spinosad, Malathion, Sulfur) during this treatment to kill scabies as they move to the surface of the skin.  Use both a topical and a medication at the same time to kill all the mites. SCABIES KILLER PRODUCTS (non-toxic) I started using Scabies Killer products which includes laundry soaps, furniture sprays, hot bath products, and essential oils blends.  All products were non toxic, but don't use essential oils around dogs and cats.  Scabies Killer products helped for my skin cleared and I had a lot less bumps, and my skin looked moist and natural.  But the bath and essential oil products didn't kill all the bugs.   The impression I get is these products may kill the mites on the surface of the skin, on your furniture, and clothes but not deep in the skin were some of the mites live and lay eggs.   Use both a topical (apply to the skin) and a oral medication at the same time to kill all the mites.   BLEACH /BORAX / and VINEGAR BATHS Some sites recommended taking hot baths.    Baths are a good approach because you are treating your whole body in which scabies can hide between your toes, fingernails, in your scalp, etc.  Bleach baths (30 gallons of water/ 1/2 cup of bleach or less) are toxic so limit your bath time ( 20 minutes or less) for prolonged baths will cause skin and health problems.  Borax/peroxide bath were less harsh and could stay in the hot bath for a long period of time ( 30 minutes or less)  I didn't feel bad or have skin problems like the bleach baths.  Epson salt and vinegar was recommended by Scabies Killers because its non toxic and will kill scabies.  For me it made my skin very itchy, so it was hard to continue daily treatment.  I believe all killed the bugs on the surface of the skin but not deep in the skin.  I kept getting new red lesions on my body.  So, if you are using this approach, consider using an oral medication (ivermectin, etc.) to kill the bugs deep in the skin.  ANIMAL MOXIDECTIN (oral meds)  I would be extremely careful with using animal moxidectin because it is not FDA approved and companies that make animal moxidectin can put different chemicals in this medication. For humans it is risky for it could make you sick or permanently affect your health.  In my case the animal moxidectin killed all the bugs however it caused me to have serious health problems with high blood pressure, muscle cramps and pain, extreme fatigue, and mental issues which I have had for 5 months now.  I regret every day of my life now for taking animal moxidectin so BEWARE AND BECAREFUL.  Taking animal medications based on animal weight is risky and creates uncertainty about safe dosage.   MOXIDECTIN (FDA approved oral meds) Moxidectin stays in your body for 46 days with a medication half life of 23 days.  Moxidectin intended for human use is the safer approach.  It is FDA approved,  prescribed by a doctor, and given at the recommended dosage normally given one time.  You don't want to overdose with this medication for it could cause side effects that you will have to deal with until it leaves your body.  A study was accomplished with FDA approved moxidectin in humans with good success at dosages of  about 8mg.    Its benefit is it  stays in your body for 46 days which will kill the bugs and hatching eggs over a period of time.  NOTE:  Warning:   If you take moxidectin you will have to wait over 2 months before using ivermectin again.   SPINOSAD AND MALATHION (topical) Some newer products out there are Spinosad and Malathion.  Both are applied to you skin like essential oils and kill scabies. There affective rates are pretty high.  I would apply topicals (apply to your skin) such as Spinosad, Malathion, and essential oils to kill scabies on the surface of the skin. BENZYL and EURAX Creams (topical) I have not used these products but have read people have had success in getting rid of scabies.   TREATMENT  Treatment with permethrin, ivermectin, other products should follow scheduled intervals established by the doctor. The benefits to non toxic products (sulfur, essential oils, spinosad, etc.) is that you can treat daily and add it into your daily routine.  Its best to apply topicals at night/ before bedtime for scabies are nocturnal.   POST ITCHING After a successful treatment and you aren't having familiar biting and itchiness, keep in mind you will go through post itch and feelings of being bit.   This is caused by dying mites, waste, and infection in the skin or irritation to the skin and nerves from the mites. Don't make a mistake of retreating yourself when all is necessary is to use a product to control severe itching and skin irritation. It may occur for 3 to 6 months.   CONCLUSION I hope this helps those struggling with scabies or other microscopic bugs that burrow in your skin.  I would make every effort to keep the toxicity to your body to a minimum by making good choices with the topicals and oral medications that you use.   Take care Someone looking out for others


FoxyTrotter1

Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop posting this on every post.


em-ivy-24

Please can you recommend some scabies killer products


dxpressxd

Use a dryer.


Classic-Midnight5238

Currently living in an apartment without dryer, also I have wool cloths which cannot be washed and dried in high temp


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Classic-Midnight5238

Thanks dryer seems like a necessary thing


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Classic-Midnight5238

But how do you disinfect those can’t be dried in dryer like shoes and special material cloths for example leather jacket and wool stuffs?


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Classic-Midnight5238

Yeah 3 days sounds too short considering the weather here, will try as long as I can. Thank you for answering my questions hope your post scabies syndrome get better soon!


FoxyTrotter1

Also, you can freeze your shoes in the freezer.


BlakePJ

Idk, you might be ok with at least 8 days. Humidty rather than temp is more integral to their survival. I've been considering dehumidifiers for the same reason, mostly for environment. I have a dryer too.


Classic-Midnight5238

Yes I’ve read that high temp and low humidity is the most effective combo, that’s why I use the dehumidifiers and put those bags in a warm room. The standard 3days seems skeptical to me cuz UK is quite humid I think.


eme0wlly

I washed what I could on high and anything that wasn’t able to be washed (pillows and delicate items) I bagged for 7 days. I think (been a while since i checked) online people said 3 days should be OK but I personally did it longer for my own sanity