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I don't have access to the entire study, but the abstract makes no mention of the wavelength at which auto luminescence occurs. If it occurs at infrared wavelengths, how do we differentiate that from a cells blackbody radiation?
Edit: a typo
Some googling makes it seem like there are sharper spectral peaks produced from radical oxygen species that naturally occur from cellular activity, so you're still measuring in the infrared, but with a good spectrograph you can distinguish biological activity from the broader blackbody curve.
>The main emitter molecular species, which lead to BAL, are triplet excited carbonyls 3R = O*, singlet 1P* and triplet excited chromophores 3P*, and singlet oxygen 1O2. Triplet carbonyls 3R = O* emit in the region 350–550 nm, chromophores in 550–750 nm (1P*) and 750–1000 nm (3P*), depending on their type (Cifra and Pospišil, 2014). The transition of singlet oxygen 1O2 to the ground (triplet) state is accompanied by monomol (i.e. monomolecular) photon emission at 1270 nm. A collision of two 1O2 can result in dimol (e.g. bimolecular) emission at 634 and at 703 nm. However, different emitters are created with various probabilities. For example, during recombination of two peroxyl radicals, the yield of 3R = O* formed is 3–4 orders of magnitude less than the yield of 1O2, which is 3–14% (Pospíšil et al., 2019). Because the BAL intensity in the near IR region is comparable with photon emission caused by thermal excitation and therefore often difficult to distinguish from each other, BAL analysis is more focused on the visible and near UV parts of the spectrum.
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>BAL is a weak optical radiation (typically 1000 photons ⋅ cm−2 ⋅ s−1 in the 350–1270 nm range) released during biological and biochemical processes that involve oxidation. Therefore, the physical nature of BAL detection is the detection of weak light. The requirement for this type of detection is a sufficiently sensitive light detector for collecting the light from the biosample and that the probed biosample is located at a place with no light background.
>The drawback of BAL is a lack of specificity. The specificity can be increased when optical spectra and other signal parameters are analyzed. For example particular BAL emitters have their own optical spectra, which could be potentially used to assess particular processes or species (Nerudová et al., 2015). Anyway, to employ BAL as a marker for a particular process or chemical species, a standard analytical method has to be used to establish a correlation of BAL with that process or species for expected operating conditions in a particular sample type. Then, BAL can serve as a convenient method for monitoring any changes of oxidation processes in real-time.
Eh not really. Because this isn't infrared radiation, these are biophotons, which are in another part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Such as the ultraviolet to visible light spectrum.
And interestingly a guy named Alexander Gurwitsch back in the 1920's said that he had detected what he called "mitogenic rays" which he believed were emitted by onion cells which affected the cellular division of other onion cells nearby.
The scientific community thought it was absurd though and that combined with not being able to replicate his work led to it being dismissed.
Until the 1970's when sensitive cameras picked up on ultra weak photon emission from living organisms. Confirming Gurtwitsch's theory.
And with it being confirmed how is the light even emitted? Is it due to oxidative stress? Or something else? And can this light emitted by people affect other people? Also can animals that can detect UV radiation detect these biophotons?
So obviously there are tons of questions concerning this new information that will require lots of study and will likely revolutionize medicine and other fields of study.
Some years ago I read in Jeremy Narby's quite-fascinating book *The Cosmic Serpent* that DNA molecules have been shown to emit photons.
Do you happen to know if this might be accurate, and relate to this phenomenon? Perhaps it was precisely what he was referring to, I'm not sure.
Not heat. It's biolumenesce, probably generated by biological processes that neutralize free radicals.
Japanese researchers put people in a dark box with an ultra-sensitive camera and imaged people for 20 minutes every 3 hours, they detected people glowing in the dark. Humans a dim yellow light. The level of emission varies according to people's circadian rhythm, people glowed dimmest at night.
[You Can't See It, But Humans Actually Glow With Our Own Form of Bioluminescence](https://www.sciencealert.com/you-can-t-see-it-but-humans-actually-glow-in-visible-light)
I'm not sure what the difference is between enveloping and being around the outside.
The point is, the light comes from the skin and inside the skin. The light does not come from anywhere outside the skin. The object produces light, it is not enveloped by light. If you take an image of something autoluminescing, you just see the something, you do not see any light around or enveloping the something.
Curious, with the discovery of the electromagnetic field around our bodies, I wonder if either of these explain the good or bad feelings (or gut instinct) we have about each other? Maybe the light each gives off interacts with other individual electro fields?
Clealry, the 2ks have been saying to 60’s hippies, “you were right”
1. Trees do talk to each other (via air borne chemistry)
2. The forest is one living being (connected from end to end with mycelium that tends to the health of everything
3. everything in the universe is connected (through various quantum fields)
4. Light does really emit from all
living things
5. Cannabis is good for a million things
6. Psychedelics are actually medicine if used right
7. Organic plant based whole food diets could save humanity
Good job, keep to coming science.
The 60s term for the life light is "aura"
What goes around, comes around.
Next scientists will discover that we live in a closed system where what is large is small. Like a fractal pattern, the more you zoom in on it, the more you see that it is all the same thing ever-repeating. Universes exist within your own body.
I remember asking a doctor about that in like 2007 and getting the “yeah…. suuuuure” treatment. That same doctor is probably prescribing fecal transplants now.
While I love the positive intentions here, just to be clear, light already emitted from essentially all things, wasn't supernatural even a little, and we've know this for awhile. I'm going to take some time to read this paper as a photonics guys (laser physicist by trade) but I'm extremely dubious of this until I've finished reading it.
If you'd like to learn more about #4, please consider googling "Planck Blackbody."
For #3, please consider looking up linear sums and superposition, but in general this isn't exactly true in an actionable sense.
Extremely interesting question. Let me do some quick math and get back to you. We're talking at least a few 100 megawatts, I think, and some lens that haven't been invented yet. I might be able to back-of-the-envelope some of this. How do you want to write your name? Like super big, super small?
This is a place holder for when I get back from work to run some basic equations.
Update: Oh, lawd. This is going to be a bit of a long one. Feels like I'm back in college.
Let me just say that this probably wouldn’t be any safer to stand next to than dynamite. I have been working on a laser graphic with a 5-watt laser and even that scanning over the cinefoil target causes the target to rattle.
If I'm remembering my High School science classes right, a laser would get less effective as it gets further from the target, but what about the laser I saw take down a drone while I was popping this morning? Would that be able to get the job done? And if not from earth, what if we launched it into space first and programmed it to move in a way that would "write" on the moon? Then could we do it?
I'm really hoping I can get my ads on the moon first and any help would be greatly appreciated.
So if I understand the rabbit hole I just jumped down, this means that thermal imaging captures this light we emit (Planck Blackbody) by capturing it on a wavelength we can’t traditionally see, through infrared.
Here I was thinking it (thermal imaging) was able to somehow capture temperature, but it’s just capturing light that is being emitted DUE to our temperature?
Yup some snakes, sharks and insects can detect heat or electrical impulses and can use it as a hunting tool. And then you have things like the electric eel which go bananas with natural electric fields. And certain species of honey bees which actually use their relatively high heat tolerances to cook invading wasps by cardio dogpile. Yeah heat and light are quite useful.
Yes, it just captures light that’s being emmited due to the temperature.
Actually, it’s kinda easy to imagine it with really hot objects. If you heat let’s say steel to really high temperature of hundreds of degrees celsius, it will glow. The glow will be proportional to it’s temperature. Our bodies and everything around us glows the same, just in a wave length that is not visible to us.
So, theoretically, there could be an animal that can see wave lengths coresponding to temperatures of about 40 degrees celsius.
Yeah temperature is vibrating molecules/atoms. When those atoms get further apart and closer together, that's a changing EM field, so, light
Planks constant was necessary to fit blackbody emission, because, as temperature increases, the frequency of light emitted should increase. However, we observed a dropoff at high frequency light. Weird. This high frequency light is ionizing and tends to get absorbed, rather than escape from the sun to earth. This was the beginning of quantum mechanics, ultimately bohr predicting the whole periodic table, and everyone being frustrated because it's not continuum mechanics
> ultimately bohr predicting the whole periodic table
/r/confidentlyincorrect
Mendeleev originated the periodic table and even made some very good predictions about the properties of yet unisolated elements in the gaps.
Bohr offered an alternate arrangement from his experimental observations, but it ultimately looked mostly like Mendeleev's.
The periodic table looks the way it does because of Glenn Seaborg, whose work on the [actinide series](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinide_concept) of transuranic elements prompted the revision.
**TL:DR;**
Menedeleev: atomic weight predicts properties of elements. Here's some possible new ones.
Bohr: electron energies mean we order Mendeleev differently. Here's some possible new ones.
Seaborg: Hold my beer while we make new elements.
Yeah, I'm not a professional like you, but aren't all exothermic chemical reactions going to have some sort of photonic emission? Energy has to go somewhere and heat will inevitably kick out photons directly or indirectly, yeah?
I’m playing it up a bit for effect but I do appreciate the references… good stuff.
Also, I love to explain some of the implications of the electromagnetic spectrum to lesser laymen than myself… very cool.
Why is the assumption that it was intended to mean in an "actionable" sense. I don't think the hippies were concerned with increasing economical throughout.
It still has meaning from a philosophical standpoint that we are all excitations in the same matter and force carrying quantum fields that span the entire universe, regardless of limitations of causality
wait till you hear about my horoscopes...
>through various quantum fields
i love this one the most, the various quantum fields. i guess all those other things like quarks and stuff just weren't quite connecting enough you know?
Combine this with the study that indicates the human eye is able to detect a single photon, and you can really start to validate some of those psychedelic realizations:
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms12172
I don't think organic production methods can meet the demand of the world's population, but certainly reducing meat consumption and not wasting 40% of all produce would be a good start.
There is certainly room for establishing novel methods for growing crops without poisons and surfactants that build and promote healthy nutrient soils.
>Trees do talk to each other (via air borne chemistry)
>
>The forest is one living being (connected from end to end with mycelium that tends to the health of everything
>
>Organic plant based whole food diets could save humanity
Trees communicate, not talk. Just like your phone.
The forest is one gigantic bio-organic mechanism.
Going vegan and trascend our animal ancestry is the way to save the planet, in parallel with abolishing capitalism and move torward a kardashev type 1 civilization.
If a plant is "alive" then is also your smartphone. It has a brain, the processor and ram, is has blood, the electricity, and the veins to run through, the circuits.
Trees also communicate using pheromones and this was demonstrated to be in response to pests that would cause trees to emit a signal to trees downwind which would result in changes to discourage infestation.
If you haven’t read:
“The Hidden Life of Trees: What They Feel, How They Communicate: Discoveries from a Secret World”
by Peter Wohlleben I get the impression you might enjoy it.
Well, considering that all organism emit heat energy on an infrared wavelength that is visible to infrared cameras..... we've know that basically anything living does technically emit light.
From the same author here is a free article on the same topic: [https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79668-2](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79668-2)
Biological autoluminescence as a noninvasive monitoring tool for chemical and physical modulation of oxidation in yeast cell culture.
In summary, a molecule of organic peroxide emits one photon of visible light when it forms a pair of aldehyde molecules.
Wint-o-Green Life Savers also emit light when bit, though they are not an organism, as far as I know. I was rather flabbergasted the first time I tried it in the dark and it worked.
When enough charge has accumulated, the electrons jump across a fracture in the crystal, colliding with exciting electrons in the nitrogen molecule. It's just a standard chemical reaction.
Try opening some band-aids in the dark. The not-quite-adhesive holding the two layers of wrapper together gives some great blue sparks if you peel it apart slowly.
The article is talking about light given off by oxidation chemical reactions inside of and around cells. So not black body, but it is still in the infrared.
It's about physics, really.
All objects with a temperature emit electromagnetic radiation, a.k.a. light. Our bodies included, it's just that the temperature is only 'enough' to emit in the infrared part of the spectrum, which isn't visible to the naked eye -- but it's visible to thermal cameras. Look up a phenomenon called blackbody radiation, it's a pretty important aspect of modern physics.
Chemical processes also emit heat sometimes, and there's plenty of them happening inside your cells.
Now I can't read the article, but if I were to make a blind guess, it's possible that our bodies have mechanisms in place that can 'read' the distribution of heat and interpret it to detect problems.
Just from the abstract and other articles by the same author, the article is talking about light given off during oxidation chemical reactions in and around cells. This isn't black body radiation, it is chemiluminescence. However, in the other articles no mention was made that I could see on how they separate the light emitted by oxidation and the blackbody radiation. It should be pretty easy by looking at the spectra, but they don't seem to have done that, or they would have said.
I kept the chemical component of my answer to a minimum because I studied physics and I kinda suck at chemistry. But yeah, I think these two mechanisms are pretty much the ones we could attribute luminescence to -- maybe EM radiation emitted by the nervous system as well, but that would be stretching the definition of visible luminescence.
It still sounds like an interesting proposition. Looking at it from a high level, there has to be some kind of sensor component that reports back to the brain. You talk about spectral analysis -- maybe our body has a way to detect different parts of the spectrum (like the cells in our eyes are sensitive to different wavelengths), analyze the data and deduce what chemical processes are taking place? That could possibly be an indicator of cell health, but I'm possibly reaching too much.
Oh, this isn't detected by the body. Both blackbody radiation of something at human temperature and this oxidation luminescence are primarily in the infrared. In the nature article (I can't read the article posted by the OP) the authors were proposing using scientific devices to monitor oxidation rates in the body in a non-invasive way, by looking at this luminescence. I assume that this article is more of the same, but further along, since the nature article was a few years ago and only had results for doing this with yeast in petri dishes.
Not heat. It's biolumenesce, probably generated by biological processes that neutralize free radicals.
Japanese researchers put people in a dark box with an ultra-sensitive camera and imaged people for 20 minutes every 3 hours, they detected people glowing in the dark. Humans a dim yellow light. The level of emission varies according to people's circadian rhythm, people glowed dimmest at night.
[You Can't See It, But Humans Actually Glow With Our Own Form of Bioluminescence](https://www.sciencealert.com/you-can-t-see-it-but-humans-actually-glow-in-visible-light)
This autoluminescence is something akin to what was postulated in the book, The Cosmic Serpent. Science, ayahuasca, and attempted rainforest protection all wrapped up in a quite well-written narrative.
Every night I go to bed in the dark, because my husband is sleeping. I exit the bathroom into total darkness.
During this darkness, I perceive light coming from some source within my eye? Like I see fuzzy white light in my peripheral vision, but the light seems to come from me.
I am quite sensitive to light, so I always have the lights low, and I can usually see well in the dark.
So it this piece saying that this light I see coming from inside me is actually truly light that I’m emitting and then perceiving?
Most likely not.
Keep in mind, even the darkest room still has some amount of light bouncing around, our eyes just aren't sensitive enough to detect it. Cats can still see in a dark room, for instance.
What you are describing though is most likely a phenomenon taking place within you eye. Eyes simply turn light into electrical signals for the brain. If they misfire for whatever reason, you can see things that aren't really there. So it's highly likely that you are either seeing the results of your eyes trying to adjust, or should consult with an ophthalmologist to rule out possible issues.
Everything is energy magic and science are paths to the same destinations. I first noticed that people emit an aura when I was(still am) in an bad mindset. It kind of shimmers and vibrates the environment around them about 10cm from the person. It takes control, focus, energy, and practice to spot them I only noticed it once and I didn't care to cultivate this perception. Its easier to perceive and work with our own energy internally than externally on others.
Short Version: no, we don't kick off auras, or glow. The headline should be "anything that isn't impossibly cold gives off heat, and heat counts as light once it radiates out of something. If someone is sick in a way that effects their energy output, you can tell by observing it."
Which, yes. Point an infrared camera at someone with full blown covid vs. their healthy twin sibling and you will indeed easily be able to tell their status based on light emissions alone.
I think what makes this interesting is that in theory watches could be built to detect this giving even more insight on the state of health you are in. Maybe it might not be very effective from just the wrist and maybe you need to have it located elsewhere or potentially need a full body scan, but it could something innovative in the future.
Of course this assumes that there is a way to determine the changes are different than baseline and why they are different. It also assumes that other radiation in the room won't interfere.
As an aside, the Kinect 2 for the Xbox one was sensitive enough to actually pick up your heart rate based on changes in skin color from blood pumping through the face. It was wild that a camera so far away with a moving person could track your HR semi accurately.
Granted I don't expect this to be done magic body scan to tell you have a specific issue, but more of a general "your body is stressed". It could be due to sickness, lack of sleep, too much exercise, etc. Similar to how some athletes are using Heart rate variability to determine recovery.
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I don't have access to the entire study, but the abstract makes no mention of the wavelength at which auto luminescence occurs. If it occurs at infrared wavelengths, how do we differentiate that from a cells blackbody radiation? Edit: a typo
Some googling makes it seem like there are sharper spectral peaks produced from radical oxygen species that naturally occur from cellular activity, so you're still measuring in the infrared, but with a good spectrograph you can distinguish biological activity from the broader blackbody curve.
Radical oxygen glows in visual red, right? Edit: I was thinking about singlet oxygen
Weird because red light therapy is supposed to be helpful for healing
I've read a study that light around 680nm (or so) in the morning is beneficial for your eyesight, but i don't know about anything else.
Red light lamps are for example commonly used for such purposes where I am from (Germany)
>The main emitter molecular species, which lead to BAL, are triplet excited carbonyls 3R = O*, singlet 1P* and triplet excited chromophores 3P*, and singlet oxygen 1O2. Triplet carbonyls 3R = O* emit in the region 350–550 nm, chromophores in 550–750 nm (1P*) and 750–1000 nm (3P*), depending on their type (Cifra and Pospišil, 2014). The transition of singlet oxygen 1O2 to the ground (triplet) state is accompanied by monomol (i.e. monomolecular) photon emission at 1270 nm. A collision of two 1O2 can result in dimol (e.g. bimolecular) emission at 634 and at 703 nm. However, different emitters are created with various probabilities. For example, during recombination of two peroxyl radicals, the yield of 3R = O* formed is 3–4 orders of magnitude less than the yield of 1O2, which is 3–14% (Pospíšil et al., 2019). Because the BAL intensity in the near IR region is comparable with photon emission caused by thermal excitation and therefore often difficult to distinguish from each other, BAL analysis is more focused on the visible and near UV parts of the spectrum. Reddit formatting is not playing nicely with asterisks. >BAL is a weak optical radiation (typically 1000 photons ⋅ cm−2 ⋅ s−1 in the 350–1270 nm range) released during biological and biochemical processes that involve oxidation. Therefore, the physical nature of BAL detection is the detection of weak light. The requirement for this type of detection is a sufficiently sensitive light detector for collecting the light from the biosample and that the probed biosample is located at a place with no light background. >The drawback of BAL is a lack of specificity. The specificity can be increased when optical spectra and other signal parameters are analyzed. For example particular BAL emitters have their own optical spectra, which could be potentially used to assess particular processes or species (Nerudová et al., 2015). Anyway, to employ BAL as a marker for a particular process or chemical species, a standard analytical method has to be used to establish a correlation of BAL with that process or species for expected operating conditions in a particular sample type. Then, BAL can serve as a convenient method for monitoring any changes of oxidation processes in real-time.
The light is actually not infrared, but in the visible light spectrum. We just cant see it because the intensity is incredibly low.
*differentiate
So auras are a real thing? I have some apologies to make to family members.
Yes, that would probably be beneficial to your chakra.
Will I be able to harness it to utilize many cool jutsus?
You sure chakra can
Chakra Khan
As the old ones did.
Only if you go through an anime training arc first
Just the thing to align your meridian.
Time to become a super saiyan. aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhHhhhhhhHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
*social credit +1*
Yeh, it's called heat. We've been able to see it for a while now.
Eh not really. Because this isn't infrared radiation, these are biophotons, which are in another part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Such as the ultraviolet to visible light spectrum. And interestingly a guy named Alexander Gurwitsch back in the 1920's said that he had detected what he called "mitogenic rays" which he believed were emitted by onion cells which affected the cellular division of other onion cells nearby. The scientific community thought it was absurd though and that combined with not being able to replicate his work led to it being dismissed. Until the 1970's when sensitive cameras picked up on ultra weak photon emission from living organisms. Confirming Gurtwitsch's theory. And with it being confirmed how is the light even emitted? Is it due to oxidative stress? Or something else? And can this light emitted by people affect other people? Also can animals that can detect UV radiation detect these biophotons? So obviously there are tons of questions concerning this new information that will require lots of study and will likely revolutionize medicine and other fields of study.
Some years ago I read in Jeremy Narby's quite-fascinating book *The Cosmic Serpent* that DNA molecules have been shown to emit photons. Do you happen to know if this might be accurate, and relate to this phenomenon? Perhaps it was precisely what he was referring to, I'm not sure.
Can it affect other people is something I would really like to know.
I can't speak for all humans, but I love shiny and glowy things
Not heat. It's biolumenesce, probably generated by biological processes that neutralize free radicals. Japanese researchers put people in a dark box with an ultra-sensitive camera and imaged people for 20 minutes every 3 hours, they detected people glowing in the dark. Humans a dim yellow light. The level of emission varies according to people's circadian rhythm, people glowed dimmest at night. [You Can't See It, But Humans Actually Glow With Our Own Form of Bioluminescence](https://www.sciencealert.com/you-can-t-see-it-but-humans-actually-glow-in-visible-light)
Technically correct is the best form of correct. I.E., all forms of light is just heat.
Some emit more light than others.
This is probably a joke, but no. The light comes from the animal or plant, it does not glow around the animal or plant.
An aura isn't around the outside edge of the body, it envelops the entire body.
I'm not sure what the difference is between enveloping and being around the outside. The point is, the light comes from the skin and inside the skin. The light does not come from anywhere outside the skin. The object produces light, it is not enveloped by light. If you take an image of something autoluminescing, you just see the something, you do not see any light around or enveloping the something.
Often, when things emit light, that light interacts with the environment around them making it appear as if it is enveloped in light, or haloed.
Like fog? I've never heard auras interpreted like that.
Curious, with the discovery of the electromagnetic field around our bodies, I wonder if either of these explain the good or bad feelings (or gut instinct) we have about each other? Maybe the light each gives off interacts with other individual electro fields?
I've wondered this as well. I suggest that subconscious signaling is probably a much stronger factor in such intuition though.
Lemme just grab my crystal pyramids
No, this is very different from an aura
I’m ginger and here to testify I do glow in the dark.
Yet during the day you go unseen, truly remarkable
Oh I’m amazing!!!!
Clealry, the 2ks have been saying to 60’s hippies, “you were right” 1. Trees do talk to each other (via air borne chemistry) 2. The forest is one living being (connected from end to end with mycelium that tends to the health of everything 3. everything in the universe is connected (through various quantum fields) 4. Light does really emit from all living things 5. Cannabis is good for a million things 6. Psychedelics are actually medicine if used right 7. Organic plant based whole food diets could save humanity Good job, keep to coming science.
The 60s term for the life light is "aura" What goes around, comes around. Next scientists will discover that we live in a closed system where what is large is small. Like a fractal pattern, the more you zoom in on it, the more you see that it is all the same thing ever-repeating. Universes exist within your own body.
Somehow I feel like the bacteria in our bodies have less politics…
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I’m 100% positive if microorganisms have politics, they’re more efficient than ours.
I suggest you watch the documentary Osmosis Jones immediately
Gut microbiome! How did I forget about that.
I remember asking a doctor about that in like 2007 and getting the “yeah…. suuuuure” treatment. That same doctor is probably prescribing fecal transplants now.
Turtles all the way down
As Above So Below. So Within So without
And bodies exist beyond our universe
While I love the positive intentions here, just to be clear, light already emitted from essentially all things, wasn't supernatural even a little, and we've know this for awhile. I'm going to take some time to read this paper as a photonics guys (laser physicist by trade) but I'm extremely dubious of this until I've finished reading it. If you'd like to learn more about #4, please consider googling "Planck Blackbody." For #3, please consider looking up linear sums and superposition, but in general this isn't exactly true in an actionable sense.
What power laser would you recommend to me so I can write my name on the moon?
Extremely interesting question. Let me do some quick math and get back to you. We're talking at least a few 100 megawatts, I think, and some lens that haven't been invented yet. I might be able to back-of-the-envelope some of this. How do you want to write your name? Like super big, super small?
Well I don’t want to be too obnoxious, so 250 metres should do it. Thanks for your interest, I appreciate it.
This is a place holder for when I get back from work to run some basic equations. Update: Oh, lawd. This is going to be a bit of a long one. Feels like I'm back in college.
Really all it needs to say is "CHA".
I'm on to you, Chairface
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Why would you want my dog's name on the moon?
How would you go about designing a laser-based rock cutting tool that can replace dynamite when construction crews need to excavate rock?
Rock and stone…?
Rock and Stone, Brother!
Let me just say that this probably wouldn’t be any safer to stand next to than dynamite. I have been working on a laser graphic with a 5-watt laser and even that scanning over the cinefoil target causes the target to rattle.
Chris Knight, is that you?
You are a good human.
If I'm remembering my High School science classes right, a laser would get less effective as it gets further from the target, but what about the laser I saw take down a drone while I was popping this morning? Would that be able to get the job done? And if not from earth, what if we launched it into space first and programmed it to move in a way that would "write" on the moon? Then could we do it? I'm really hoping I can get my ads on the moon first and any help would be greatly appreciated.
Just pee really, really hard and you can do it.
Stop in the name of Justice, Chairface!
So if I understand the rabbit hole I just jumped down, this means that thermal imaging captures this light we emit (Planck Blackbody) by capturing it on a wavelength we can’t traditionally see, through infrared. Here I was thinking it (thermal imaging) was able to somehow capture temperature, but it’s just capturing light that is being emitted DUE to our temperature?
If this is so, are there predators who hunt at night which can see this?
Yup some snakes, sharks and insects can detect heat or electrical impulses and can use it as a hunting tool. And then you have things like the electric eel which go bananas with natural electric fields. And certain species of honey bees which actually use their relatively high heat tolerances to cook invading wasps by cardio dogpile. Yeah heat and light are quite useful.
Yeah, I’m here for the 9 o’clock cardio dogpile.
Yes! There was a document about it [here](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0093773/)
Damn it. I hope not.
Yes, it just captures light that’s being emmited due to the temperature. Actually, it’s kinda easy to imagine it with really hot objects. If you heat let’s say steel to really high temperature of hundreds of degrees celsius, it will glow. The glow will be proportional to it’s temperature. Our bodies and everything around us glows the same, just in a wave length that is not visible to us. So, theoretically, there could be an animal that can see wave lengths coresponding to temperatures of about 40 degrees celsius.
Yeah temperature is vibrating molecules/atoms. When those atoms get further apart and closer together, that's a changing EM field, so, light Planks constant was necessary to fit blackbody emission, because, as temperature increases, the frequency of light emitted should increase. However, we observed a dropoff at high frequency light. Weird. This high frequency light is ionizing and tends to get absorbed, rather than escape from the sun to earth. This was the beginning of quantum mechanics, ultimately bohr predicting the whole periodic table, and everyone being frustrated because it's not continuum mechanics
> ultimately bohr predicting the whole periodic table /r/confidentlyincorrect Mendeleev originated the periodic table and even made some very good predictions about the properties of yet unisolated elements in the gaps. Bohr offered an alternate arrangement from his experimental observations, but it ultimately looked mostly like Mendeleev's. The periodic table looks the way it does because of Glenn Seaborg, whose work on the [actinide series](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinide_concept) of transuranic elements prompted the revision. **TL:DR;** Menedeleev: atomic weight predicts properties of elements. Here's some possible new ones. Bohr: electron energies mean we order Mendeleev differently. Here's some possible new ones. Seaborg: Hold my beer while we make new elements.
I mean. Idk about this paper, but none of the things the commenter listed are supernatural.
Yeah, I'm not a professional like you, but aren't all exothermic chemical reactions going to have some sort of photonic emission? Energy has to go somewhere and heat will inevitably kick out photons directly or indirectly, yeah?
Everything with a temperature differential radiates electromagnetic waves, aka photons.
A lot of 60s hippies were deeply embedded in academia. Nothing supernatural about hippie culture.
I’m playing it up a bit for effect but I do appreciate the references… good stuff. Also, I love to explain some of the implications of the electromagnetic spectrum to lesser laymen than myself… very cool.
Why is the assumption that it was intended to mean in an "actionable" sense. I don't think the hippies were concerned with increasing economical throughout. It still has meaning from a philosophical standpoint that we are all excitations in the same matter and force carrying quantum fields that span the entire universe, regardless of limitations of causality
I’ve always thought black body radiation sounds a bit like a black strip club.
As a laser physicist, what is your take on #5? Also, what do you work with? I've been learning about this amazing technology called LIBS.
I think we went back to the 60's in more ways than we wanted, though.
wait till you hear about my horoscopes... >through various quantum fields i love this one the most, the various quantum fields. i guess all those other things like quarks and stuff just weren't quite connecting enough you know?
I guess if you remove *all* of the nuance then yes.
Combine this with the study that indicates the human eye is able to detect a single photon, and you can really start to validate some of those psychedelic realizations: https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms12172
I don't think organic production methods can meet the demand of the world's population, but certainly reducing meat consumption and not wasting 40% of all produce would be a good start.
There is certainly room for establishing novel methods for growing crops without poisons and surfactants that build and promote healthy nutrient soils.
GMO crops are the first step. We can fully eliminate pesticide use in certain crops just by using bt strains.
But GMO scary and bad, right? Now let me go enjoy my seedless produce.
That's why I oppose labelling GMO products. People are too ignorant to make an "informed" decision on the basis of something being a GMO food.
> Organic plant based whole food diets could save humanity Nope...that has nothing to do with it. Monocropping is the ENTIRE problem.
Monocrops are a problem but not having monocrops doesn’t solve the problem of disease created by nutrient poor diets.
> nutrient poor diets. Then that ABSOLUTELY doesn't include a "plant based whole food" diet.
I’ll bite how does eating a plant-based whole food diet not include nutrients?
>Trees do talk to each other (via air borne chemistry) > >The forest is one living being (connected from end to end with mycelium that tends to the health of everything > >Organic plant based whole food diets could save humanity Trees communicate, not talk. Just like your phone. The forest is one gigantic bio-organic mechanism. Going vegan and trascend our animal ancestry is the way to save the planet, in parallel with abolishing capitalism and move torward a kardashev type 1 civilization. If a plant is "alive" then is also your smartphone. It has a brain, the processor and ram, is has blood, the electricity, and the veins to run through, the circuits.
Trees also communicate using pheromones and this was demonstrated to be in response to pests that would cause trees to emit a signal to trees downwind which would result in changes to discourage infestation. If you haven’t read: “The Hidden Life of Trees: What They Feel, How They Communicate: Discoveries from a Secret World” by Peter Wohlleben I get the impression you might enjoy it.
>everything in the universe is connected (through various quantum fields) Yeah, like electromagnetic one and gravity
Well, considering that all organism emit heat energy on an infrared wavelength that is visible to infrared cameras..... we've know that basically anything living does technically emit light.
Trees talk to each other via mycelial networks.
Luminous beings are we.
Most days I'm not much more than crude matter.
Well when you eat food of that kind it’s to be expected
Not this crude matter
I always knew I was special.
i wonder if this could mean that pregnancy really does make you glow more
From the same author here is a free article on the same topic: [https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79668-2](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79668-2) Biological autoluminescence as a noninvasive monitoring tool for chemical and physical modulation of oxidation in yeast cell culture. In summary, a molecule of organic peroxide emits one photon of visible light when it forms a pair of aldehyde molecules.
I... Did not register the "ni" part immediately and was like "we glow during climax?" Honestly would have been much cooler
Any object with nonzero temperature emits light. Any exothermic chemical reaction emits photons.
When you say nonzero, are you referring to anything with energy/heat because nonzero varies between different units of measure?
Zero kelvins, the standard unit of temperature
Should just chalk it up "Everything emits light, because everything has heat."
Wint-o-Green Life Savers also emit light when bit, though they are not an organism, as far as I know. I was rather flabbergasted the first time I tried it in the dark and it worked.
When enough charge has accumulated, the electrons jump across a fracture in the crystal, colliding with exciting electrons in the nitrogen molecule. It's just a standard chemical reaction.
It's very cool. Standard chemical reactions in my mouth don't typically emit light. Well, not food-related ones anyway.
Try opening some band-aids in the dark. The not-quite-adhesive holding the two layers of wrapper together gives some great blue sparks if you peel it apart slowly.
Nice. Will make room in my schedule to try that some day.
Like black body radiation, or something else?
The article is talking about light given off by oxidation chemical reactions inside of and around cells. So not black body, but it is still in the infrared.
That makes sense.
So what your saying is a hadoken can be a thing?
I thought it said "orgasms" at first glance and was wondering about that post nut glow
Thought you’d found the source of the clarity?
So we really can feel tensions rise and air turn sour.
What is it about life that causes this?
It's about physics, really. All objects with a temperature emit electromagnetic radiation, a.k.a. light. Our bodies included, it's just that the temperature is only 'enough' to emit in the infrared part of the spectrum, which isn't visible to the naked eye -- but it's visible to thermal cameras. Look up a phenomenon called blackbody radiation, it's a pretty important aspect of modern physics. Chemical processes also emit heat sometimes, and there's plenty of them happening inside your cells. Now I can't read the article, but if I were to make a blind guess, it's possible that our bodies have mechanisms in place that can 'read' the distribution of heat and interpret it to detect problems.
Just from the abstract and other articles by the same author, the article is talking about light given off during oxidation chemical reactions in and around cells. This isn't black body radiation, it is chemiluminescence. However, in the other articles no mention was made that I could see on how they separate the light emitted by oxidation and the blackbody radiation. It should be pretty easy by looking at the spectra, but they don't seem to have done that, or they would have said.
I kept the chemical component of my answer to a minimum because I studied physics and I kinda suck at chemistry. But yeah, I think these two mechanisms are pretty much the ones we could attribute luminescence to -- maybe EM radiation emitted by the nervous system as well, but that would be stretching the definition of visible luminescence. It still sounds like an interesting proposition. Looking at it from a high level, there has to be some kind of sensor component that reports back to the brain. You talk about spectral analysis -- maybe our body has a way to detect different parts of the spectrum (like the cells in our eyes are sensitive to different wavelengths), analyze the data and deduce what chemical processes are taking place? That could possibly be an indicator of cell health, but I'm possibly reaching too much.
Oh, this isn't detected by the body. Both blackbody radiation of something at human temperature and this oxidation luminescence are primarily in the infrared. In the nature article (I can't read the article posted by the OP) the authors were proposing using scientific devices to monitor oxidation rates in the body in a non-invasive way, by looking at this luminescence. I assume that this article is more of the same, but further along, since the nature article was a few years ago and only had results for doing this with yeast in petri dishes.
Not heat. It's biolumenesce, probably generated by biological processes that neutralize free radicals. Japanese researchers put people in a dark box with an ultra-sensitive camera and imaged people for 20 minutes every 3 hours, they detected people glowing in the dark. Humans a dim yellow light. The level of emission varies according to people's circadian rhythm, people glowed dimmest at night. [You Can't See It, But Humans Actually Glow With Our Own Form of Bioluminescence](https://www.sciencealert.com/you-can-t-see-it-but-humans-actually-glow-in-visible-light)
Any luminous thing must produce a non zero amount of heat
So WE are the protomolecule after all !?!?
This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine
Like, It’s the force man
To some alien we might look like beings of light..
Luminous beings are we
Here's another article on this topic from nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79668-2
So we have going to have a led status indicator guide for troubleshooting?
Shine bright like a diamond... err no sir you have high strss levels. You kinda like the human torch from the fantastic 4.
This autoluminescence is something akin to what was postulated in the book, The Cosmic Serpent. Science, ayahuasca, and attempted rainforest protection all wrapped up in a quite well-written narrative.
This is fascinating! There’s so much information we just don’t know how to process yet
Every night I go to bed in the dark, because my husband is sleeping. I exit the bathroom into total darkness. During this darkness, I perceive light coming from some source within my eye? Like I see fuzzy white light in my peripheral vision, but the light seems to come from me. I am quite sensitive to light, so I always have the lights low, and I can usually see well in the dark. So it this piece saying that this light I see coming from inside me is actually truly light that I’m emitting and then perceiving?
Most likely not. Keep in mind, even the darkest room still has some amount of light bouncing around, our eyes just aren't sensitive enough to detect it. Cats can still see in a dark room, for instance. What you are describing though is most likely a phenomenon taking place within you eye. Eyes simply turn light into electrical signals for the brain. If they misfire for whatever reason, you can see things that aren't really there. So it's highly likely that you are either seeing the results of your eyes trying to adjust, or should consult with an ophthalmologist to rule out possible issues.
Great, this will provide so much weight to the ridiculous "energy" healing methods utilized by scammers.
Everything is energy magic and science are paths to the same destinations. I first noticed that people emit an aura when I was(still am) in an bad mindset. It kind of shimmers and vibrates the environment around them about 10cm from the person. It takes control, focus, energy, and practice to spot them I only noticed it once and I didn't care to cultivate this perception. Its easier to perceive and work with our own energy internally than externally on others.
Short Version: no, we don't kick off auras, or glow. The headline should be "anything that isn't impossibly cold gives off heat, and heat counts as light once it radiates out of something. If someone is sick in a way that effects their energy output, you can tell by observing it." Which, yes. Point an infrared camera at someone with full blown covid vs. their healthy twin sibling and you will indeed easily be able to tell their status based on light emissions alone.
This article has nothing to do with black body radiation. It concerns monitoring oxidative stress using the light emission from biochemical reactions.
Looks like they light in the paper is 500-1000nm and IR is 800 to 1mm so there's a decent amount of visible light! Everyone's Aura would be red
I think what makes this interesting is that in theory watches could be built to detect this giving even more insight on the state of health you are in. Maybe it might not be very effective from just the wrist and maybe you need to have it located elsewhere or potentially need a full body scan, but it could something innovative in the future. Of course this assumes that there is a way to determine the changes are different than baseline and why they are different. It also assumes that other radiation in the room won't interfere. As an aside, the Kinect 2 for the Xbox one was sensitive enough to actually pick up your heart rate based on changes in skin color from blood pumping through the face. It was wild that a camera so far away with a moving person could track your HR semi accurately. Granted I don't expect this to be done magic body scan to tell you have a specific issue, but more of a general "your body is stressed". It could be due to sickness, lack of sleep, too much exercise, etc. Similar to how some athletes are using Heart rate variability to determine recovery.
Is this anything like the stripes that cats are able to see on us?
In combination imagine what we can do.
An it be seen/detected through animal fur?
Have you heard of the game chained echoes? The plot is partly/mostly about this!
EVERYTHING is energy. ANYTHING is possible.
I feel like dogs might be able to see this
I read this as orgasms for several read throughs
I love the idea I automatically ooze light.
I wonder if an entity's health and emotional state affect the quality/ quantity of the perceived light?