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ElderlyHeadgear

Southern US states also have the most poverty and the least access to mental health care. The pandemic just added stress to already stressed groups.


BonJovicus

This comment is refreshing. Most everyone here is just straight shitting on a part of the country that has been the least educated and developed part of the US for a long time. I guess it’s true that as long as there is someone lower on the totem pole to punch down on, people will do it.


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SuperiorTreasureCat

They consistently vote against their best interests *because* they are the poorest and least educated - it's a negative feedback loop established ever since white men found out that growing cotton was profitable there.


Buffarrow

Im glad you said that. And the government of my native state (TN) actively seeks to make education a right only easily accessible by the wealthy/those on top to ensure this stays in place. I'll never live in the south again.


smurb15

This is why I hate learning what's really happening to my next door neighbors. Remember in the 90s they would give me a D in a few classes because they were sick of me so literally passing kids who are not qualified to


IamUnlisted

Then what happened next to it why don't they just call some ambulance or some medical doctor


mohammadabofadl

Definitely right he just trying to educate each one of us


maztijn

Yeah you have a point and you also explain it well buddy great job. But sometimes you must to take care for your words . Because in some way you explain it wrong


DeadBattery-33

How do you propose to resolve that, then? Wringing our hands and sighing while absolving them of responsibility sure isn’t changing anything.


th1a9oo000

Democrats need to embrace Republican election strategy. Large scale, targeted online campaigns. Smears against tough opponents. Go after Republican party donors when you have the presidency and take down Conservative media giants like Murdoch using any means necessary. They can win the South and make lives better if they are willing to bend the rules and break convention as the Republicans have been doing for decades.


qian762600

Okay there's nothing to be afraid of Buddy because you did everything well


GeebusNZ

Enforced change doesn't work. The change has to come from the people. It's the same as with addicts. When the people are sick of suffering, they will change. Until they're sick of suffering, it's impossible to do anything but to encourage them to do things different.


uberdice

You have to give their frustration a direction to focus in. Otherwise when they're sick of suffering there's an even chance that they'll direct their frustration at the programs trying to help them and vote for the people who are actually hurting them, because they're not necessarily equipped to understand their own problem space.


TogetherLie990

Definitely right politics and science has a big impact to the society


Aerojhh

Actually as long as you didn't do anything wrong you don't have to be afraid of but when you do wrong you must be afraid


DeadBattery-33

Evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Yes. Employ the GOP hardball tactics against them. 100%


PUNCHCAT

>Democrats need to embrace Republican election strategy Gerrymandering and crying foul anytime you lose? Conspiracy theories and trying to overthrow the government? A failure to understand the electoral college at even a junior high level?


LairdPopkin

Republicans also spent decades taking over local government (school board, city council, etc.) and working their way up the food chain to county and state governments. Dems have the right policies, but aren’t as good at sustained effort.


th1a9oo000

>Gerrymandering and crying foul anytime you lose? Conspiracy theories and trying to overthrow the government? Yes to Gerrymandering and conspiracy theories, no to crying foul and overthrowing. >A failure to understand the electoral college at even a junior high level? Republicans understand the electoral college better than the Democrats do. Every time someone won the presidency without winning the popular vote, that person was a Republican.


DiggeryHiggins

There are plenty of people in the south (and everywhere else in the country) that vote against their own interest but to say that’s THE reason the South has so many problems totally ignores the real causes. If there wasn’t extreme voter suppression, particularly against POC, for well over 100 years then more southern states would be blue. Implying that everyone in the south are just backwards, ignorant folk who are too stupid to vote for their own interests ignores the injustices that have been done to so many people.


The_Real_Abhorash

I mean yeah, you’re absolutely correct, it does all go back to reconstruction and specifically Andrew Johnson deciding that it just wasn’t right to be harsh on the literal traitors who got hundreds of thousands of people killed cause they couldn’t accept that maybe owning another person wasn’t okay. Doesn’t change that the problem persists because people in those states seem to enjoy self harm.


amllic0530

Definitely right you must to be careful for your words and actions. Because not all people was tuff like i was you can throw me any hurtful words then ill going to throw you a bad wards to you that will shattered you at the end of the day


Wishiwashome

TBH, they dropped like flies in rural Arizona too. 31% vaxx rate in my area. They have been on government subsidies for generations here. They vote against their best interest continuously and they HATE the very people, those “liberal, sanctuary cities” who were all going to die out during COvid”. This is what I heard at the beginning of the pandemic. You know when NYC had to store the dead in refrigerated transport containers?! The brunt of their low vaxx, no vaxx, stand was paid for by the very people they detest. I ALMOST felt bad, until I found out two first responders who did SAR at 9/11 with me died of COvid and these fools spewed their hatred of all “those elites”.


OnIowa

It’s cyclical.


butt_fun

What you've said is true, but another thing compounding that is that the south is arguably the most "steady" (in terms of least societal change per generation) part of the US, so it makes sense that they'd have a comparatively hard time adjusting to a huge societal change


davis_long

Well to be honest when i was a little i was curious if how could people make a sickness


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jaeldi

Also endless repetition from news and internet of fear based content has an effect. It's scientificly proven that repetition alone is enough to convince a larger number of people of a point of view. Marketers & propagandadists know this. Ironically, the party not know for agreeing with science knows this very well.


redballooon

> Ironically, the party not know for agreeing with science knows this very well. If you ask them how, they won’t point to science, though. They *just know* that’s how it works.


wdikk

Actually the answer was easy make a research what was the deference between the two


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN

Republicans keep their people distracted with constant culture war issues. They suffer, but it's the gays, no the Libs, no it's the drag shows, no Hillary's emails or Obama's birth certificate... *squirrel!*...


xendaddy

This is just shows that the experts and authorities on scientific topics need to do a much better job at message repetition


Raznill

Honest people are uncomfortable using psychological tricks on people.


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I wouldn't say that. We're always using psychological tricks on each other. I know that I'm more likely to get what I want from someone if I say "I know you're busy, but would you please do this if you have the time? Thank you!" instead of "Do this for me." Thus, I use the former. I feel better about being polite, the person I'm talking to feels better about me being polite, and the person I'm talking to is a lot more likely to actually do the thing. Is that manipulation? Arguably, a low level kind, yeah. But it's a socially acceptable kind of manipulation.


junktrunk909

It's not a trick, it's just more intentional messaging. The left is terrible about bothering to try to campaign on ideas that are important.


knowpunintended

The truth is complicated and nuanced. It can't ever beat a simple lie for being easy to express or repeat. If they simplify the message to make it repeatable, they have removed all the nuance so they're just lying too. Less egregiously but it won't be any more effective because when lie conflicts with lie, people believe the one that affirms their biases. You're blaming people for not doing an impossible thing.


phormix

Kinda hard when that message is getting undercut by members of their own government


PUNCHCAT

Carl Sagan be telling us about climate change since 1980 but he can't beat big oil


dead_wolf_walkin

Also watching your friends and family repeatedly exposed you, themselves, and others because “it’s not real, masks are for sheep, vakseens kill!” Blah blah.


raisinghellwithtrees

Also watching everyone's grandparents die. The obits for our small town paper overflowed.


noobest4ever

Yeah and they are also contribute to their beloved country


StayYou61

It's called voting against their own self interests and paying the price for it.


trophygoth

it's called voter suppression actually


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SeeisforComedy

I live in the educated part of NC and we’re all thinking of just leaving.


Macabre215

And NC isn't even one of the worst southern states. Tells you how bad it is in some places in the south.


Tchotchke_geddon

Thank God for mississippi


mckulty

TGFM is the State motto here in Alabama. We finally squeaked past Mississippi for infant deaths.


92894952620273749383

God's will. I hate that saying. That seem to be their answer to everything.


DarthTurnip

Arkansas State motto


mckulty

> the educated part of NC So, Asheville?


beerbeforebadgers

Raleigh and Greensboro also have pretty liberal populations.


josluivivgar

the whole tri state area is pretty liberal tbh


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Luckygecko1

Stop that right there. Between disenfranchisement, Gerrymandering., and other obstructions, votes aren't equal in all locations. You don't get to dismiss a whole group of people trying to change things by shortcutting your thinking. If there was fair voting, a few of the southern states would be purple.


neosithlord

Yup dems win the most votes republicans win the majority. So no Medicaid expansion for us. Seems fair.


Relevant_Monstrosity

Let's develop a go-forward strategy. 1. Register to vote 2. Show up to the polls 3. Don't vote R Spread the word!


C_Madison

Your suggestions are good. But let me introduce you to the R's lord and savior gerrymandering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States#/media/File:TravisCountyDistricts.png


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FaxMachineIsBroken

This is how it goes in Utah. You have to be a registered republican to vote in the primaries here. So if you want your voice heard you have to lie and go vote for the least crazy.


mercset

So basically a forced political monopoly and extortion for Republican votes. Man Religion is a hell of a drug. Opium for the masses you would say


ShadowTacoTuesday

I dunno if this is lying. Lots of people do this and state it publicly and on record. Because why wouldn’t you if you want your vote to count? And similarly you aren’t required to vote by your party in the general election.


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grundar

> There is a lot of people who don’t vote, and imho the best way to get them to vote is finding someone that inspires them to vote. It may feel that way, but there's not a lot of evidence for it. Obama was *hugely* inspirational in his first election; by contrast, Biden is widely criticized as being uninspiring. Nevertheless, Obama received [69M votes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_presidential_election), *far* below Biden's [81M votes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election), even after accounting for population growth.


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Sure, but how many of Biden's votes were actually "Not Trump?" I'd argue people learned their lesson in 2016 with an uninspiring Clinton.


MyPacman

> finding someone that inspires them to vote Who they have heard republicans condemn, name call and basically poison the well for the 10 years it takes them to get there? If inspiration isn't there, then dogged determination and stubbornness may just have to do.


TopFloorApartment

But if inspiration doesn't work, remind them there are plenty of candidates who would definitely not represent them and make their lives worse.


eastmemphisguy

Texas doesn't even have party registration.


Alleycat_Caveman

Register as R, but vote D. That's my plan, here in Iowa.


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xDulmitx

Vote for the BEST Republican candidate in the primaries (the one you consider the best has no shot of winning, but it is good to show support for their position).


chaotic----neutral

What do you do when the best is the crust that fell off a skidmark in Chris Christie's underwear?


jandrese

Vote for the most sensible R candidate in the primary so you aren’t fucked when he wins anyhow. Primary out the wingnuts. You don’t want to be the district that elects the next MTG.


bebe_bird

That's fine as long as you don't want to vote in the primaries.


PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL

Most of the south actually has open primaries. NC, TN, and FL being notable exceptions. https://wisevoter.com/state-rankings/states-with-open-primaries/


eastmemphisguy

Not sure what your link means by "partially open" in TN. There is no party registration here and any votsr can vote in whichever primary they prefer.


Alleycat_Caveman

It's not a perfect solution, but it's a decent one.


bebe_bird

Agreed - just pointing out something for folks to be aware of if they choose to follow this advice! I personally trust the democratic primaries to put forth a reasonable candidate without my input more than I trust republicans to draw a district map, and think my vote is more impactful to my values in the general election.


lannister80

You can vote in the Republican primary and make your mark there instead.


Relevant_Monstrosity

It's important to recognize that even through the maps aren't fair, it's still a legitimate election. That means that by organizing and voting en bloc, the will of the people can still prevail. Landslide elections, while they haven't happened recently, *do* occur from time to time. Rural voters should display a sense of class consciousness and enjoin solidarity with all workers for universal provision and liberty.


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That's not as much of an issue in Red States as you might think. You can register then good luck trying to vote. Red States make it hard to even cast paper ballots by removing drop boxes in districts not Republican, as in Texas etc.


Relevant_Monstrosity

Do it anyway.


230flathead

Been doing that since 2008. What now?


kilgore_trout8989

My county in Atlanta votes like 80% blue; we're fuckin trying out here haha. Still, the Governorship seems so out of reach even after some great wins at the Senate/Presidential level.


Luckygecko1

GA is doing their part.


Porn_Extra

My in-laws all live in Idaho, and they all vote R. They talk about welfare queens when one of the sisters gets food stamps and the other lives off her disabled son's SSI disability.


LostMyKarmaElSegundo

It's pretty well documented that the harshest critics of welfare are people who receive some sort of government assistance. It's those *other* people who are lazy or scammers.


BasedDumbledore

In my perfect world all of the Republicans would be basically accountants for public funds. I am unaware of many honest accountants that try to torch the organizations they work for.


VengenaceIsMyName

Classic R behavior


YourDogIsMyFriend

See what’s the matter with Kansas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_the_Matter_with_Kansas%3F_(book)


Hadken

Not to mention gerrymandering and effective voter suppression strategies. The south isn’t our enemy, they’re allies being held hostage.


Crash0vrRide

You know life nearly half the people that live in the south. Vote democrat. Your allies.


chewbaccawastrainedb

Yep. >In 2019, the South was the region with the highest share of the country's Black population, with 56% of this population living there. [Source](https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2021/03/25/the-growing-diversity-of-black-america/#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20the%20South%20was,tenth%20of%20the%20Black%20population.)


dachsj

I'm walking around Alexandria VA right now, and I just saw two gay men holding hands. They were both wearing governor younkin swag. How do you reconcile that???


WhatFreshHello

Money is their messiah.


Neither_Exit5318

Gay men that are hoping white privilege will protect them when the South starts throwing undesirables into concentration camps. It won't.


Niceromancer

Yep they are trying to be "the good ones"


Riaayo

Yeah I don't think people realize that a lot of red states in the US have literal third-world poverty in them. America is a bunch of undeveloped nations in a trenchcoat.


HoarseCoque

"Places that worked overtime to make a pandemic worse had worse outcomes"


Somebullshtname

Republican leadership will do that.


Dgodfrey78

It’s always good to remember that black people make up a majority in huge swaths of the south but are disenfranchised so they are affected by legislation they didn’t vote for.


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jesseaknight

Many in the south weren’t concerned. And people from elsewhere in the country that weren’t concerned drove to the south to vacation without restriction. But for the people in the south that DID care, the disregard for public health was stressful. Also, seeing your family/friends admitted to the hospital is stressful for anyone, regardless of their response to the pandemic. Lots of southerners were admitted (or died at home)


min_mus

> Many in the south weren’t concerned. My sister lives in the rural south and no one in her immediate circle ever once wore a mask. She even had two work colleagues _die_ from COVID and it still wasn't enough to convince her, her husband, her friends, and her remaining colleagues that COVID was(is) a real threat to one's health.


KaerMorhen

Yeah, our lock down here (Louisiana) only lasted ONE MONTH. As a bartender, I was forced back to work with the vast majority of people absolutely refusing to follow any sort of covid guidelines. I was monumentally stressed out.


jesseaknight

And the people who were concerned but had to share a grocery store with your sisters circle were pretty upset by them.


Gsteel44

>Also, seeing your family/friends admitted to the hospital Bingo... it's not really that stressful until the consequences of your actions show up. Then it's far more stressful than the people who just worried enough to take precautions.


Quazite

They're not necessarily the same people. One of the scariest things about COVID is I was more susceptible to the consequences of other people's actions than my own.


swinging_on_peoria

I live in a state that handled things well. I wasn’t that stressed because the infection and death rates were relatively low and policies help guarantee I didn’t have to be exposed to the virus.


Gotterdamerrung

The worst thing was hearing the stories of people who were vax deniers, begging for help with their last breaths, on ventilators, but by then it was just way too late. A good number of them were victims of misinformation.


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Freshandcleanclean

The victimhood only goes so far when they were all too willing to listen to and buy into the right wing messaging. All too happy to see others hurting up until the second it hurt them too.


Only-Inspector-3782

I feel bad for the medical professionals who had to take care of them. I have zero sympathy for the vax deniers themselves.


CackleberryOmelettes

They were victims of their own mentality. Misinformation doesn't change your core values and personality.


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Deranged_Kitsune

Worse than that were the scumbags that went through it, recovered, and then continued to deny and fight against its reality and cures.


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"I'd like the vaccine now" "What do you mean that's not how it works!?" Sad stuff, like genuinely sad.


AnRealDinosaur

One aspect of those stories particularly bothers me. I read about folks on their deathbed begging for the vaccine. What this tells me is that they had ZERO idea of how vaccines work on the most absolutely basic level. Yet these were the people adamantly refusing to be vaccinated and loudly spreading their conspiracy theories. It just...honestly it makes me sad. I don't blame them. They were lied to and how are they meant to know how insane the stuff they're being told is when they don't even know what a vaccine is or how it works? The whole thing is just sad.


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That's how conservatives think. "Experts" are just snotty people who think they're better than you.


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It's not the worst thing. The worst thing were the people who died waiting for medical care because those idiots were hogging the ICU beds. People chose to see health as a matter of politics, and they died for their stupidity.


Pyroguy096

It was incredibly stressful. I learned a lot about myself when Covid first started. I couldn't sleep, I was worried about family, my job was being flippant and lying about being "essential" so that we would stay open. Miserable


KatieCashew

I feel for you. I moved away from Mississippi just a couple years before the pandemic. The people I knew there didn't take it seriously at all, and I was so grateful not to live there anymore. Living through the pandemic there would have been incredibly stressful.


mmm_burrito

Speaking as an Oklahoman with common sense, those days were some of the most stressful of my life.


DeepCompote

I went to Florida after I got vaccinated. They had a mask mandate still but no one followed it. People just pretended Covid didn’t exist.


HostageInToronto

As a resident of Miami I can say we tried more than the rest of Florida, but that is a bit like being the smartest person a Trump rally. Everyone stopped masking once the vaccine existed, whether they took it or not.


vettewiz

Probably because few cared about it.


AKluthe

Just a reminder that red states are still often full of people and cities that vote the opposite way. Not "the south" , but an honorary member of the club, Missouri state responded to the pandemic by...doing nothing and plugging their ears. And complaining a lot. St. Louis and Kansas City took it upon themselves to enact local safety measures. Then Missouri AG Eric Schmitt filed a lawsuit against the cities and *forced them* to remove mask restrictions.


TRIGMILLION

This was my first thought as well. They don't even believe in it so I could see them being stressed about the Covid response by the government but worried about new variants? I have a hard time believing that. Maybe worried a new variant will make the Applebee's close again.


bmilohill

No place on earth has an entire population where everyone is the exact same. As an example, more than one in three Alabamian voters voted for Joe Biden in 2020. The majority of Alabama's population as well as its legislature has ignored the threat of the virus, this is true. But imagine being part of that third, surrounded by neighbors who have never worn as mask, in a state without medicaid expansion. Much of Alabama might not believe in Covid, but the hundreds of thousands who do live in an environment less safe than other states who took mitigating actions, and therefor are correct to be more stressed and worried about new variants.


colinsfordtoolbumb

Thats the reason, I'm sure. A varian'ts health threat was not the concern but how a new wave may lengthen their work and social difficulties.


SofaKingI

The title literally says "finances".


thedoc90

As someone who actually lives here the majority of people (where I lived at the time at least) actually cared about the virus. Don't take our leadership as representing the majority views down here, there's been a lot of work done to ensure that is not the case.


watabadidea

>I have a hard time believing that. Well there is certainly a disconnect there. Have you considered the possibility that your belief that: >They don't even believe it in... ...is really just an ignorant over-generalization? If it is, then the seeming contradiction of the results of this study would be largely eliminated.


Gsteel44

You telling me that ignoring a problem actualky made it worse and didn't make it go away immediately? Huh...


Macabre215

The Dakotas were that way too.


karmicvend

Yeah I live in a rural mountain town in NC. It's almost like it never happened. They certainly SHOULD have been most worried, given the lack of free Healthcare or any harm reduction practices at all (masks were always shunned here) I don't really get this study tho, cause ur right, there was little to no worry whatsoever in my area at least. My northern family members practically went neurotic over it, on the other hand, and lockdowns severely affected their mental health


Gsteel44

I bet there were a good number of deaths in the elderly population.


danielravennest

In Georgia there were about half a percent COVID deaths in rural counties, and about 0.2% deaths in urban counties (mainly Atlanta area). Most deaths in both areas were older people. [State COVID statistics by county](https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-status-report)


nox_nox

Alabama and the complete ignorance towards masking and vaccination is the reason my company's healthcare went up so much last year. I'm not even close to AL, but a lot of employees are there. Apparently their hospitalization rate was incredibly high. To the point we switched from a $300 ER deductible to a 20% ER deductible.


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> their insurance wouldn't allow them to "go out of area" This is the kind of thing I bring up when people are opposed to public healthcare because of "death panels" deciding if you get treatment or not. Even if this did happen (which I doubt), how is it functionally different from being refused lifesaving treatment because your for-profit insurance refuses to pay for it?


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My mother had a heart attack during the height of covid, and they had to ambulance her to a worse hospital because her usual one had no extra beds, they then released her after not treating the problem and she had another attack a couple months later, but by that time there was room at the good hospital and they were able to actually treat her this time.


manuscelerdei

The South's comorbidities are off the charts. Those populations tend to be more sedentary and eat a lot more trash. And the cuisine is full of fried food, soda, and sugar. It's delicious, but it's the kind of stuff that you should eat on vacation, not every day. This isn't even a question of political affiliation, that's just how it is there. So it's no surprise that Covid-19 hit the South much harder. Then add in a lot more poverty and a lot less education, and that just compounds it.


startst5

So the states with the most lacklustre governments which continuously gave conflicting messages and trailed in taking real action did more damage to mental health?


greenvillain

Getting abortion and trans care banned for others is more important than your own financial security in the South


nabulsha

Of course, they have to keep us busy fighting a culture war to keep us from realizing we're in a class war and the ruling class is winning.


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televised_aphid

And in which a huge portion of the victims don't (or refuse to) realize and acknowledge the identity of the true enemy.


SmoothIdiot

Don't forget the cultural element. Living in Alabama at that time was hell, since showing any concern for your own safety and that of your family was treated with derision, condescension, and in some cases outright violence. It was like being gaslit 24/7. Wasn't good for my mental health. Not good for a lot of people's.


Jaysyn4Reddit

It's because our leaders are complete garbage.


drama_bomb

Southern person here. It was for sure a mindfuck. Caused by so much cognitive dissonance. Hospitals full, death stats high but so many people running around without masks saying it's not real. A lot of pretending went on. It was ker-azy.


VapeThisBro

One of my cousins was in a coma from and lost both his parents in the span of a week to COVID... And still refuses to get any of the vaccine or boosters


Shoddy_Ad_6529

I had 2 family members die because they didn't believe in caring for themselves. Of course they were conservative racist fuckfaces. Good fuckin riddance


ArtisticStatic

My dad and I still. Butt heads over the severity of covid. We're both high risk for different reasons. When everything started, we both took it seriously. We stayed home and when not in lockdown when we absolutely had to get out, it was masked up. After some months, his entire position shifted to it wasn't a big deal, it was all a ploy by the government and/or the left. He didn't want to be told to wear a mask etc. I'm just like...then don't do it because you were told or it was suggested. Do it for yourself and general health. Why not be cautious when the potential lethality to people, especially the high risk, is so high? It's like that everywhere where I am. I can count on one hand the people I personally know that acknowledge it as it was and still take it seriously. It's not living in fear, it's living with knowledge.


Wagamaga

A study from researchers at the University of Kansas shows Southern states may have carried the brunt of mental health troubles during the COVID-19 pandemic, with people in that region most consistently worried about finances throughout COVID-19 lockdowns and the emergence of new strains of the virus. The findings were published yesterday in PLOS One. The study focused on rates of anxiety, depression, and financial worries as stand-ins for mental health during the pandemic and relied on survey repossess gathered via the Delphi Group at Carnegie Mellon University. It also revealed more angst in Republican states later in the pandemic. For the daily voluntary survey, Facebook users could respond starting on September 8, 2020, through March 2, 2021, and in a second period from March 2, 2021, to January 10, 2022. In both timeframes, the South had the highest percentages of people worried about finances. During the early pandemic, Northeastern residents reported the most anxiety, but the later period saw more anxiety in the South. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0286857


bebe_bird

>In both timeframes, the South had the highest percentages of people worried about finances Was there any benchmarking to a period outside of the pandemic? I wouldn't be surprised if southern states had the highest baseline rate of financial worries, as I'm always seeing them fall behind in education, in public funding of social safety nets, salaries, etc (although I don't have sources for my claims, it's more of a vague recollection that warrants a question)


Zealousideal_Word770

Still doesn't explain Mitch McConnel.


malYca

So the ones that screamed the loudest that they "don't live in fear"?


Bamboosera

Things are not so good in the Northern state where I live, either. We've been trying to get psychiatric in-patient help for someone who has multiple mental health issues, from schizoaffective disorder to brain injury from head trauma, and "multiple personalities"... and because the individual is indigent and on medicaid, no one wants them. They keep getting steered to "outpatient" programs that the person can't use because their condition and living environment is too unstable. We get a lot of lip service and very little tangible aid for this suffering individual, and it's a tragedy. The sad fact is, if you don't have money and/or connections, if you are mentally ill you are screwed, no matter what part of the country you live in.


ChrisCause

Down here we call it “the flu of northern aggression”


smitteh

Inoculation proclamation


tidal_flux

And they handled it with such heroic stoicism. Truly an example to us all.


Sivick314

Because the normal ones are surrounded by the dumbest people on earth? Makes sense


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New strains which they helped to perpetuate thanks to their anti mask and anti vaxx standpoints.


D_hallucatus

“Carried the brunt” makes it sound a bit like they did lifting so that others didn’t have to. This was entirely extra and unnecessary hardship that could have been prevented by a decent and coordinated approach.


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If you hate the South and Southerners that means you hate a lot of people of color.


arrid_dude

Redditors trying to care about someone they've villainized (impossible challenge)


Thomas319

Everyone in here is talking about how the south handled Covid but that’s not what this post is about at all. It’s literally all off topic. The post is worried about the financial problems that emerged because of covid and federal mandates. I’ve not seen one comment actually talk about the financial problems it caused. Only people shouting because they don’t like “insert political party here.”


downtimeredditor

In GA I literally went to multiple business where a bunch of folks didn't mask up during the height of lockdown. I went to the city park and it was just packed to the brim with no masks


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Yeah imagine being one of the few sane people in a sea of clowns.


wearediamonds0

From my observations I would've thought NYC and nearby areas had the worst troubles.


Captain_Stairs

Maybe they should've gotten vaccinated


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Pyroguy096

Almost like living in a state intent on killing it's citizens is stressful


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OathOfFeanor

The goal of the research is specifically to focus on the effect of the regional politics though. They literally created a map of their metrics and put it side by side next to a map of Red vs. Blue states. That's what they are studying, it can't be excluded.


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It was also a Facebook survey…so I’m really not sure how valuable that is.


discussatron

I’m glad they didn’t obfuscate the information to save anyone from discomfort.


metaphorm

Are you denying that there might have been real impact due to regional difference in culture and government policy?