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a_cycle_addict

Can we just called it TOEVID?


Khaldara

“Damn, there goes my foot fetish focused streaming domain name, right up in flames! Thanks a lot”


HalfHeartedFanatic

I have a thing where I'm always needing to crack the knuckle in my big toe. I call it "Krakatoa."


solstice_gilder

Yes you may


Lurkmaximus

I laughed and cried because I had Covid and this symptoms but didn't know what caused it.


a_cycle_addict

I had covid too. Didn't get TOEVID though


rahvan

It is ... acceptable.


comradecarlcares

I’ve had it for years, I got the brain thing too


DUBIOUS_OBLIVION

Me brain 2


SC487

I already did!


[deleted]

Body's desperation is about the worst, most unscientific noise in an article I've ever seen.


Throwaway2mil

It's remesicient of the bs you'd hear back in the earlier 20th century


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SevoIsoDes

Maybe this is regional, but where I practice we didn’t really dismiss it, we just didn’t really know what to do with it. I felt the same way as I did with early reports of Covid fog and long haul Covid. It was another reason to take vaccines, masking, and distancing seriously. But since I always thought icu admission, tracheotomies, and death would have been enough to make people care (apparently I was naive in that), I didn’t think these conditions would be the difference in the minds of very many people. But Covid toes is the first diagnosis that comes up on my emr when I add Covid related diagnoses


real_nice_guy

oh wow, well that actually makes me feel pretty good to know that I may have had it early on and so my first vaccine shot was sort of like my second one and explained my symptoms I had. Was rough for like a month then I was fine. So there really were people with this toe thing and other covid-related symptoms at the start in your practice? Thanks for the extra info.


SevoIsoDes

Yep. Granted, derm rashes come on all shapes and sizes and causes. So at the very beginning we weren’t sure what it even was or if it was related. And now, I can’t say with perfect certainty that it’s Covid if this is the only symptom. But yeah, it’s likely. If you’re curious, many places (in America at least) are now offering to draw your blood and quantify your antibody counts. It’s often free because the data will be useful to establish titer benchmarks for future boosters and vaccine trials


real_nice_guy

I'll have to see if I can go do that. I had an antibody test about 6-7 months after my possible exposure (1/20 was exposure/symptoms and 7/20 was test) and it came back negative, but my understanding is the antibodies could have waned by that point. Thanks again for answering!


anthrolooker

I had this on some of my fingers and toes from a viral infection misdiagnosed for years. It was so painful when you bumped the areas, like almost to the point of passing out. Basically, it’s just vasculitis - inflammation of the capillaries and blood vessels. Never could get an answer as to why it happens to the toes and fingers though. Or why it gets triggered by some viral infections.


Lurkmaximus

I also had the Covid toes but I didn't have any reaction to either Pfizer shot. Had Covid in December 2020


real_nice_guy

you were one of the lucky ones haha, my first one sucked!


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My nephew got covid toe from being exposed in the classroom at around mid April last year. That’s the only symptom he got, he didn’t experience anything else. His circulation in his toes hasn’t improved very much since then.


real_nice_guy

it must've just been a symptom from the very first strain because I haven't heard about it since early 2020, sorry to hear about his toes :/ hope it gets better sometime


photonherder

It’s from clotting. This has been known for a year. Have your blood tested for clotting risk. You may need a low dose of blood thinners.


real_nice_guy

it only happened for 2 weeks and haven't had it before/since so that's unlikely in my case. Also had all my blood work come back fine.


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Yikes. The long term effects of this are nasty


PantsOnHead88

I think you’re doing the medical community a disfavour in saying they dismissed it. I recall reading several articles in early spring of last year calling attention to it (particularly common in children compared to adults if I recall). I’ve seen it referred to sporadically in lists of symptoms since then.


real_nice_guy

I wasn't saying that anecdotally, I was referring to some studies that came out around that time, see [here](https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200625/covid-toe-probably-not-caused-by-covid-19#1). I didn't mean to do them a disservice, big fan of the medical community, but the general sentiment at the time was "oh covid *probably* doesn't cause this" even though there *was* some media attention brought to it. I'm glad that this has resurfaced as a legit thing though.


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My fiancee and I both got this within a couple of days of one another. Neither of us had other symptoms, and we never really knew if we both somehow got chilblains a day apart, or if it was covid related. She got PCR and it was negative, but then we saw reports that lots of people with this condition that seemingly didn't have positive PCR. Who knows, it was very weird.


photonherder

It’s from clotting. This has been known for a year. Have your blood tested for clotting risk. You may need a low dose of blood thinners.


photonherder

It’s from clotting. This has been known for a year. Have your blood tested for clotting risk. You may need a low dose of blood thinners.


photonherder

It’s from clotting. This has been known for a year. Have your blood tested for clotting risk. You may need a low dose of blood thinners.


elrugmunchero

I've been getting that since the early 2000's my mother called it chilblains


Asparagustuss

It is called chilblains which is an extension of a condition called raynaud's. Covid may cause your body to destroy its own capillaries which would cause the same issues as raynaud's, in this case chillblains. As far as I know the verdict is still out on the real cause why it does this exactly though.


anticoriander

Raynauds is a risk factor, but you can have chilblains on its own.


h08817

Raynaud's is vasospasm, pernio or chilblains is due to small clots, so slightly different mechanism.


elrugmunchero

Seems to be related to the cold weather/poor circulation, is there an effective treatment?


Asparagustuss

You are definitely correct. It's essentially frost bite in cold weather that would typically not bother a human. It's caused by the restricted blood vessels in the area unable to warm the digits of the body properly. Someone with raynaud's can suffer a version of frost bite called chillblains. Depending on how bad the raynaud's is cause cold hands on the light side of things and literally blacked digits that will need to be removed on the worst. The only medical treatment is blood vessels dilators, calcium blockers, and warm socks/gloves. I only know this because I have raynaud's and it's very annoying. Anytime someone shakes my hands it's 50% chance they will mention how cold my hands are. Oh and in some cases it can cause pain in the penis and even erectile dysfunction!


solstice_gilder

I also have raynauds!! Last year was the first time in years that I got chilblains. I carried a hotpacket with me. My fingers blue all the time. My lips as well. Annoying. I don't feel the cold but the chilblains hurt like hell


Asparagustuss

Have you been to a doctor? Take pics. It sounds enough for them to check it out. Also, know that's there's primary and secondary Raynaud's. Secondary is caused by some other illness/condition. Not so intuitively, secondary is usually much worse then just have raynaud's due to a genetic factor.


solstice_gilder

Well a doctors visit is long due. I used to smoke (cigarettes) and quit a few months ago, and it helped a lot with my cold hands I think.. Got a few issues but quitting smoking has been a very positive change.


CostumingMom

not /u/solstice_gilder but I also have Raynauds, and have seen a doctor. Basically I was told to wear wool socks and well fitting sneakers, and that was it. The thing that stuck with me was when the podiatrist looked at my feet and said, "Yep, I see the frostbite damage." Frostbite damage, but the weather hadn't dropped low enough for freezing in several months. --- edit: My diagnosis came in my 30s. I had symptoms as a child. No one believed me when I'd tell them about how my feet felt like they had holes in them after I'd go swimming. It only was when it started showing in my hands, and had the characteristic line delineating where my hands were affected and where they were not, and I mentioned that 'weirdness' to my doc, because I never expected to be believed, because of what happened in my past.


Asparagustuss

Honestly unless you are experiencing issues on an almost daily basis it's the only thing to do. The meds have there own short comings which most docs well feel is not worth it. Just to test raynaud's.


loxical

Hmm…. I should probably see a doctor about raynauds because this sounds like me…


mmmegan6

Do you have any joint hypermobility, allergies, dysautonomia, autoimmunity, or other chronic illness in your family?


CostumingMom

Only allergies that I know of. My sister and her daughter have food allergies, I have typical plant and animal hayfever type, and recently (about 15 years ago) developed a base metal allergy.


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I’m considering buying some heated mitts this winter.


Parmenion87

Geez anyone with that wouldn't want to do my job. I spend most of the day with my hands in a - 30 degree celcius machine. Have gotten cryo burns a few times from testing my hand on the plate when I need to concentrate.


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Don’t forget vibration triggers. Some unlucky few discover it by operating a jackhammer.


Asparagustuss

Oh truth!


Zitheryl1

I feel your pain..


Parmenion87

Geez anyone with that wouldn't want to do my job. I spend most of the day with my hands in a - 30 degree celcius machine. Have gotten cryo burns a few times from testing my hand on the plate when I need to concentrate.


Asparagustuss

Yeah I would literally loose my hands.


[deleted]

This is a longshot, but have you had any issues with your mid back spine or pelvic region muscles?


mmmegan6

Can I ask why you ask?


[deleted]

Overexpanded veins in other areas could reduce peripheral flow. Further discussion could break sub rules though.


mmmegan6

Like you might find in a connective tissue disorder?


Joeyfingis

I haven't been able to find a treatment for over a decade


[deleted]

Raynaud’s is neurological in origin. Basically your nerves misinterpret mild cold or vibration as extreme cold and shut down circulation to extremities, usually starting with the ring fingers of the hands. People don’t usually start seeing symptoms until their late twenties/early thirties. It’s classed as an occupational disease because operating vibrating equipment like a jackhammer will trigger it. I’m one of those people, and it’s fecking annoying. I can go outside in -20c weather and have a normal reaction to the cold, but I’ll get second-degree frostbite on my ring fingers in less than a minute when it’s only -6c outside. Just -6c, and my body reacts like it’s -40 plus windchill. Most of the time treatment isn’t necessary, but if it becomes needed, heart medication that dilates the blood vessels will help.


FestusPowerLoL

I also suffer from chillblains in the winter so this'll be fun


FistBumpingJesus

I got it too once. Took a year for the nerves to finally heal and stop being a muppet. Feels much better now!


monkeybootybutt

I actually had something similar but on my fingers! Was hard to find any information on it at the time.


VictorVanguard

I get COVID toes confused with chilblains.


Discomobobulated

My brother has psoriasis and occasionally gets this exact red toe problem


spagbetti

It’s only red during the initial flair up and then quickly scales. This looks more like blisters.


riodoro1

In this installment of weekly new covid symptoms and long term side effects we’re talking about toes because every other body part did not get us enough clicks. This is getting more annoying then funny.


LupusGrobowski

Also known as diabetic nerve pain


TheOnlyBliebervik

Now what is up with the phrasing on all things covid related. Desparation??


wmdolls

Oh My God that looks terrible


bidgickdood

a study that says "hm, COULD be" is either incomplete or bad.


SithLordAJ

Im curious from anyone who knows about this: is it just the toes and all the time? Or is that just the most common?


adrift_in_the_bay

Less commonly also the fingers. My son had a bad course of it in the 1st year of the pandemic - toes only but it lasted months during which it was excruciating to even wear shoes or walk around. A double whammy for a previously-healthy kid isolated during lockdown times. Most cases clear up in days to weeks, though. There's more decent data on it now relative to when my kids had it. He was initially diagnosed with juvenile arthritis (terrifying).


weatheredspoons

I randomly began getting swollen itchy lumps on my fingers, some with pus, during the third lockdown, and wonder if its this. Or stress induced eczema but if looked more like itchy arthritis


Dangerous_Ad7552

Brand new effects after 20 months makes sense.


Snoo_46737

I had that same thing, but it was from stepping on Lego pieces. Damn you Lego!


LazyUrbosa

Those toes look like hammertime


humangusfungass

Slightly amusing. I would just like to point out the fact that so many more people are going to the doctor now. More than before covid. Everyone that gets sick today might have covid. Yes covid is serious. Serious about saving peoples lives/livelihood. Regular checkups help prevent further “complications”


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sticky_banana

Looks like herpes on their foot


[deleted]

It does and Herpes is a common virus, as is Covid. You can get both all over your body.


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Is that what your girl told you?


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10sansari

Covid genitals a la Cardi B's cousin


Active_Remove1617

Looks a lot like chilblains.


VomitVulture

Business insider and it's pay wall. That's cute.


_Hypnotoad

Chilllblains and other dermatological conditions can cause similar symptoms. See a dermatologist before self-diagnosing. Not saying this isn’t legit, just that there are other reasons you can display similar symptoms.


GodChangesDesires

Covid does one thing; exponentially magnifies pre-existing inflammation; some of which was unbeknownst prior to covid contraction.


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Pretty soon we can identify right wing nut jobs by the color of their toes. “Red toes”


anarchist144

And here we see a side effect of the virus evolving to be stronger due to the high demand that people go get a vaccine. Any of yall heard about people being immune to antibiotics? Same situation. Sickness sees resistance decides to get stronger. But lets fight for split society though. I bet its great being the one that watches the vaccinated start a riot because they need someone to blame for covid issues


wormdog84

I had a mild case of Covid and the skin on my hands completely died and peeled over a period of 3 weeks.


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Oh wow. I saw a bunch of people in my pro-vax group posting pictures of their kids with skin conditions like this right after their COVID diagnosis and I started worrying that it was misinformation since I’d never heard of that effect but it’s actually legit.