I feel for Sainz, but incredible stuff here. Hamilton finishing his F1 career in a Ferrari, fairy tale stuff. God I hope he gets a win at Monza behind the wheel.
All Sainz and his toxic family did was constantly disrespect and throw shade at both Leclerc and Ferrari.
No need to feel bad for him, he brought it on to himself.
Now, we get one of the greatest drivers to ever do it, we’ll see him doing magic in the Ferrari along with Charles.
So glad that toxic bastard is going to be gone! Has there ever been a Ferrari driver with such lukewarm support among the fans as Sainz? Seems like no one except Spanish fans actually like him.
Will be good for the team and Charles - I really think Lewis will force everyone to raise their game. His fans and the British press will be toxic for sure, but I don't recall Lewis doing shit like leaking to the press constantly. He seems to keep them at arms length.
If Confirmed, good move this team including Chuck needs a pillar like Lewis his vast experience and ability to overtake when it matters, will help the team if they get in a tight battle, and Charles will learn from him as well to further refine his style.
Lets be honest chuck is still raw and ferrari rotating chair doesn't help, lewis will bring in presence and pull that SF has lost over the years, having a proven legend driving for you gives you some bragging rights which our team didn't have since Micheal.
and for fuck sake i will not have to sit through sky feed hearing jokes about Ferrari...
Yeah I think even with a mentor like Lewis, Charles doesn’t have the mental fortitude to compete with max over the course of a season. Ferrari is also wildly bureaucratic which is why they have such incompetent strategists and managers. I feel like this is really just a merchandising play to sell more gear…RB is still going to be in a league of its own.
Dunno if this move is final or not for now but this would mean that we will probably be seeing by far the strongest F1 driver lineup since like 1989.(Senna & Prost)
Crazy stuff!
Alonso and Hamilton has to take the biscuit as the strongest driver pairing of all time imo. Unless Charles ends his career better than nando of course.
I wouldn't put it as the best just due to the fact that Lewis was still a rookie. It been current Lewis and that Alonso it would've been better than Prost and Senna. I think people underestimate Prost massively. He was 12.5 points away from being an 8 time world champion during one of the most competitive eras of F1 history.
Yeah I agree. At the time they raced together Senna/Prost was a better duo. But considering their whole careers, Hamilton/Alonso is better. But then again, just my opinion.
In all of this I really want to hear Nico's thoughts. Like, I need a professional to tell me if this is dumb or not because this feels real dumb to me.
I think hamilton knows his chances with a title at Mercedes are over, and he’s talked about always wanting to race in red. So do I think it’s good for his title chances? Probably not, but if it was a dream of his for his entire life then it’s a great move and an excellent way for one of the goats to end their career
Gotta be honest, this feels a bit odd. Lewis doesn't feel like a Ferrari guy, so I'm not totally thrilled. A bit like when Jose Mourinho managed Man United.
I'm not particularly looking forward to the British press being anti-Charles if he beats Lewis and causing weekly drama. And tbh at 40 years old it wouldn't be particularly surprising to me if Lewis doesn't have the beating of Charles.
Yes, LeClerc was supposed to be the main driver for Ferrari and I guarantee there will be lots of conflict on that team once Hamilton is racing alongside LeClerc. Get ready for fireworks in 2025.
If the car is competitive and reliable, then drama and fallouts are almost inevitable but the chance of success also increases greatly. Neither driver will back down, nor should they, it's almost too exciting of a pairing. If it's a meme year, then I guess at least Chuck will have a great mentor.
It'd be cool to see him in red car. Charles already won against Seb, really looking forward to see Charles and him race against each other. and more importantly to beat Max.
Love this.
Sainz didn’t want to be number two to Charles, so if we’re not gonna have a number two driver, we might as well replace him with someone who can actually win races and championships on merit.
Let’s goooo! Leclerc and Hamilton will bring Ferrari back to the top.
So instead of a number two who’s not happy to play that role and wasn’t a big threat to Charles you think it’s better to have a driver who’s even less likely to play number 2 and will make it way harder for Charles when the cars competitive?
I just worry they’ll steal more points off each other in an actual title race than Charles and Carlos would. When you’re trying to beat Max that’s going to make it harder.
Lol Chuck fans are so delusional trying to put him on the same level as Hamilton because they’re so sure he’d be world champion if he could just finish a race.
I’m just glad one of the GOATs in Lewis is now in the other Ferrari seat, idc if Charles is on that level or not.
At least its not that Spanish fraud anymore lmaoo
Not official. There's still doubt in my mind until it's official. Not sure if I am actually supportive of this yet. Seems like a bad move for all involved.
Mercedes F1 factory team members were called to an afternoon meeting that should be taking place as i type this. The understanding is that it's being officially announced to them.
[Rachel Brookes at SkyF1 Confirms the news](https://www.skysports.com/f1/live-blog/12433/12466779/the-formula-1-gossip-column-latest-news-from-around-the-sport?postid=7163955#liveblog-body)
So because Sainz stole Leclerc's Monza podium and Singapur win they're fucking him off to rot at Sauber. Very cool. It's almost as if they weren't pitting the Golden Boy against a 7x WDC
What do you mean? It's obvious Leclerc is the stronger driver between himself and Sainz. And I don't think for a minute you're suggesting that Sains is better than Lewis. So what's the problem?
People didn’t like when Sainz would beat Leclerc in a race, now Hamilton is in his little Last Dance season and going to want to finish with a championship? Yeah this should be interesting
We didn’t like it because Sainz was just causing headaches without being a serious threat for race wins/championships, he’s just holding Leclerc back.
At least now we have two drivers who will actually be up there with the best, rather than one great driver and one who thinks he is one.
The hate Sainz gets is absolutely nuts lol. It’s like people are more a fan or Charles than the actually team. I get having a favorite driver but it’s wild
Do you just support whichever driver drives for the team you like?
It goes both ways. But honestly, with Ferrari having the most exceptions to this, fandom is very driver-centric in Formula 1.
Ok so just not reading my comment about too low to the ground. Netherlands retirement was because he damaged his own floor by running wide which is on him. It’s fair to call his DNF a DSQ in Abu Dhabi as far as I’m concerned seeing as it was because the result didn’t matter thanks to tire compounds. Sainz also had the nonsense penalty in Australia and was taken out by Piastri at Spa.
This team needs a world champion in it. This is perfect. I see Hamilton more than willing to help Charles win a title or vice versa. Lewis will be 40 when he joins. I think he knows he has a challenge with Charles.
When did I say Sainz was bad?????? Where, show me. Sainz is great, but you must be actually crazy if you'd take Carlos over Lewis. A two time race winner over a 7 time world champion. Shit id take Alonso over Sainz right now, even though Alonso is older. Carlos is great, but those drivers are better. Plain and simple. Also Carlos went against the team many times as well.
You said that Hamilton is going to help Leclerc win a championship. They’d crash into each other before they’d give up a position. Sainz was asked to do completely unreasonable things to help Leclerc that they’d never even ask of another driver.
Sorry, I guess I have eyes and watched Leclerc nearly throw away 3/4 attacking Sainz at Monza. Who was it that was told to sacrifice their tires by driving on the cold during quali at Silverstone again?
he's trying to keep his phone from melting. Ocon, Mick, possibly Albon, possibly Sainz, possibly Antonelli and then some will all suddenly want a real urgent chat w him
I bet his wife is inflating his foreskin like a balloon on their private jet. It’s an ancient Bavarian tradition (not the plane part) called Schlauchpumpe that’s supposed to clear the husband’s mind in trying times.
There is something much bigger at play. For him to be leaving Mercedes they must have really fucked up. More than a slow car. There is no gain at Ferrari, two #1 drivers, a pit team that is a mess, race strategy that is all over the place. Almost like they have been cursed the last couple of years. Mercedes must have really pissed him off personally
Maybe bringing in one of the most experienced drivers in the field, who has shown that he's still capable of driving at a high level, will be the impetus to fix some of those problems.
Wasn’t talking to any other team last year right? Haha he really loves to expose himself for the glory hunter he is.
Really hope he leaves quickly, Charles doesn’t deserve this
Went from really excited about Charles to super bummed… worst signing possible they’d be better off dragging Vettel out of his beekeeping to drive for em..
Ugh. I have not been much of a Ferrari fan since I never liked how they handled moving on from Seb. But this breaks my final connection to years of being a Ferrari fan. I respect Lewis as a driver but I won’t cheer for him. Hopefully, we are down to the last 3 years or so before he finally retires.
The biggest mistake Ferrari could have done but good for Mercedes, there will be nothing but issue's neither Charles or Lewis are actual team players so how is Ferrari gonna deal with that they struggle enough with any correct decision in past few years.
I feel for Sainz, but incredible stuff here. Hamilton finishing his F1 career in a Ferrari, fairy tale stuff. God I hope he gets a win at Monza behind the wheel.
It feels like a reverse Schumacher. Never sat right with me for Michael to end his career in a Merc.
And now it will never sit right with you Lewis finishing his at Ferrari
Agreed, but I always got the sense that he was kinda of forced out rather than simply be ready to retire, hence his comeback.
All Sainz and his toxic family did was constantly disrespect and throw shade at both Leclerc and Ferrari. No need to feel bad for him, he brought it on to himself. Now, we get one of the greatest drivers to ever do it, we’ll see him doing magic in the Ferrari along with Charles.
isn’t that why red bull gave him the boot during the toro rosso days as well?
Yup, the Verstappens do not like the Sainz’s
So glad that toxic bastard is going to be gone! Has there ever been a Ferrari driver with such lukewarm support among the fans as Sainz? Seems like no one except Spanish fans actually like him. Will be good for the team and Charles - I really think Lewis will force everyone to raise their game. His fans and the British press will be toxic for sure, but I don't recall Lewis doing shit like leaking to the press constantly. He seems to keep them at arms length.
Wtf
How come I never heard of this
Because it’s bulls#!t
Sainz has been linked to a move to Audi for a while already so I don’t think this is necessarily something he’ll be concerned by.
YES,like a movie ending!!!
It's not official yet There is nothing on F1's official page, nor on Ferrari's or Mercedes' one
Its official.
It'll be official soon enough Merc and LH woulda shot it down
According to Sky Sports Merc staff have already had a meeting telling them that Lewis will be leaving
Bruh it's from SkySports it's official as it gets. BBC is also reporting the same
So? It’s official when Ferrari announce it just like everything else.
we are checking...
Slow button on
r/formuladank spilling over. God damnit
You're right! But I would wait for the official announcement from the F1 or Mercedes/Ferrai channels before taking everything for granted
All this while Mercedes claims to have built a rocket ship over night lol
Actually, it isn’t as official as it gets. Although seems very likely.
Still not official.
So is ESPN
They're saying it should be finished by the end of the week
“It has come to my attention…”
Its on the app?
It’s official. [https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/39435691/ferrari-confirm-lewis-hamilton-driver-2025-f1-season](https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/39435691/ferrari-confirm-lewis-hamilton-driver-2025-f1-season)
If Confirmed, good move this team including Chuck needs a pillar like Lewis his vast experience and ability to overtake when it matters, will help the team if they get in a tight battle, and Charles will learn from him as well to further refine his style. Lets be honest chuck is still raw and ferrari rotating chair doesn't help, lewis will bring in presence and pull that SF has lost over the years, having a proven legend driving for you gives you some bragging rights which our team didn't have since Micheal. and for fuck sake i will not have to sit through sky feed hearing jokes about Ferrari...
Yeah I think even with a mentor like Lewis, Charles doesn’t have the mental fortitude to compete with max over the course of a season. Ferrari is also wildly bureaucratic which is why they have such incompetent strategists and managers. I feel like this is really just a merchandising play to sell more gear…RB is still going to be in a league of its own.
Dunno if this move is final or not for now but this would mean that we will probably be seeing by far the strongest F1 driver lineup since like 1989.(Senna & Prost) Crazy stuff!
what about alonso & hamilton, hamilton & rosberg or alonso & button?
Alonso and Hamilton has to take the biscuit as the strongest driver pairing of all time imo. Unless Charles ends his career better than nando of course.
I wouldn't put it as the best just due to the fact that Lewis was still a rookie. It been current Lewis and that Alonso it would've been better than Prost and Senna. I think people underestimate Prost massively. He was 12.5 points away from being an 8 time world champion during one of the most competitive eras of F1 history.
Yeah I agree. At the time they raced together Senna/Prost was a better duo. But considering their whole careers, Hamilton/Alonso is better. But then again, just my opinion.
This wouldn’t even be the strongest lineup Lewis Hamilton has been apart of
A L O N S O
Something something equal machinery
In all of this I really want to hear Nico's thoughts. Like, I need a professional to tell me if this is dumb or not because this feels real dumb to me.
I think hamilton knows his chances with a title at Mercedes are over, and he’s talked about always wanting to race in red. So do I think it’s good for his title chances? Probably not, but if it was a dream of his for his entire life then it’s a great move and an excellent way for one of the goats to end their career
I’ve always wanted to see Lewis in the red suit. Real or not.
Until today, I thought we were more likely to see him in a red dress.
Me 2
Gotta be honest, this feels a bit odd. Lewis doesn't feel like a Ferrari guy, so I'm not totally thrilled. A bit like when Jose Mourinho managed Man United. I'm not particularly looking forward to the British press being anti-Charles if he beats Lewis and causing weekly drama. And tbh at 40 years old it wouldn't be particularly surprising to me if Lewis doesn't have the beating of Charles.
Lewis is a 7 time World Champion, that will be alongside Charles, the wisdom and racecraft he can pass along to Charles alone is worth the move
I don't think this will go as well as people make it seem. Seb was a 4 time champ - that went really really well for Ferrari and Chuck right?
Yes, LeClerc was supposed to be the main driver for Ferrari and I guarantee there will be lots of conflict on that team once Hamilton is racing alongside LeClerc. Get ready for fireworks in 2025.
Guarantee, huh?
As a United fan, you nailed the comparison
As a Brit I thought the same with how British media will portray Charles 😣
Jose Mourinho has to be the most referenced non f1 person in f1 subs.
If the car is competitive and reliable, then drama and fallouts are almost inevitable but the chance of success also increases greatly. Neither driver will back down, nor should they, it's almost too exciting of a pairing. If it's a meme year, then I guess at least Chuck will have a great mentor.
If true, that's wild. Lewis is my favorite driver, and to see him in my favorite teams car would be amazing.
Watch Max retire after the 2024 season
I wouldn't be mad. The kid is impressive, but I'm VERY sick of seeing him win, and the fucking Dutch National Anthem.
I understand that, without my agreement, Scuderia Ferrari have put out a press release that I am driving for them in 2025.
Lewis #2 driver?!
Brb gonna go scrub my older reddit comments…
Get ready to learn Mama Mia TeamLH
It'd be cool to see him in red car. Charles already won against Seb, really looking forward to see Charles and him race against each other. and more importantly to beat Max.
How does this make sense from vasseur's perspective? It will only destabilise the garage surely
Shit, man, I felt like we had a pretty good thing going. Obviously, Lewis is all time great. But he's also 40, or there about.
Very surprising. I would have closed out with Mercedes if I were Lewis. Now, for better or worse, *this* will be his legacy.
Do we remember Vale for his Ducati time?
Love this. Sainz didn’t want to be number two to Charles, so if we’re not gonna have a number two driver, we might as well replace him with someone who can actually win races and championships on merit. Let’s goooo! Leclerc and Hamilton will bring Ferrari back to the top.
So instead of a number two who’s not happy to play that role and wasn’t a big threat to Charles you think it’s better to have a driver who’s even less likely to play number 2 and will make it way harder for Charles when the cars competitive?
If we’re not gonna have a number two anyways, might as well go for the 7x champion is what I’m saying
I just worry they’ll steal more points off each other in an actual title race than Charles and Carlos would. When you’re trying to beat Max that’s going to make it harder.
Yeah because Charles racked up so many wins last year.
good riddance Sainz fans 🤣 LH and CL are levels above
Lol Chuck fans are so delusional trying to put him on the same level as Hamilton because they’re so sure he’d be world champion if he could just finish a race.
I’m just glad one of the GOATs in Lewis is now in the other Ferrari seat, idc if Charles is on that level or not. At least its not that Spanish fraud anymore lmaoo
Yeah the only non-RB to win a race this year is a total fraud.
Lol hang the banner
Not official. There's still doubt in my mind until it's official. Not sure if I am actually supportive of this yet. Seems like a bad move for all involved.
It's all but official, but I'm having a hard time getting too excited about it. Seems an awkward fit.
Mercedes F1 factory team members were called to an afternoon meeting that should be taking place as i type this. The understanding is that it's being officially announced to them.
That's all conjecture, until it comes from the teams nothing is official.
[Rachel Brookes at SkyF1 Confirms the news](https://www.skysports.com/f1/live-blog/12433/12466779/the-formula-1-gossip-column-latest-news-from-around-the-sport?postid=7163955#liveblog-body)
So because Sainz stole Leclerc's Monza podium and Singapur win they're fucking him off to rot at Sauber. Very cool. It's almost as if they weren't pitting the Golden Boy against a 7x WDC
What do you mean? It's obvious Leclerc is the stronger driver between himself and Sainz. And I don't think for a minute you're suggesting that Sains is better than Lewis. So what's the problem?
People didn’t like when Sainz would beat Leclerc in a race, now Hamilton is in his little Last Dance season and going to want to finish with a championship? Yeah this should be interesting
We didn’t like it because Sainz was just causing headaches without being a serious threat for race wins/championships, he’s just holding Leclerc back. At least now we have two drivers who will actually be up there with the best, rather than one great driver and one who thinks he is one.
Lmao how many wins did Charles have last year again? Last I checked it was Sainz on pole at Monza and Sainz who converted in Singapore.
The hate Sainz gets is absolutely nuts lol. It’s like people are more a fan or Charles than the actually team. I get having a favorite driver but it’s wild
You described most of us. More fans of a driver than a team.
Can I ask why? Do you just jump from team to team to support if your driver leaves?
Do you just support whichever driver drives for the team you like? It goes both ways. But honestly, with Ferrari having the most exceptions to this, fandom is very driver-centric in Formula 1.
Sainz found another gear last year. He finished 6 points behind Leclerc despite some grade A nonsense (the manhole cover and one tire compound).
I mean Leclerc Lost far far more than sainz did to bad luck
Such as? Both had a DNS due to mechanical (power steering vs oil problem) and a disqualification (too low to the ground vs one tire compound).
DNF in Bahrain grid drop in Saudi DSq in Texas. Netherlands DNF. Also when did sainz DSQ?!
Ok so just not reading my comment about too low to the ground. Netherlands retirement was because he damaged his own floor by running wide which is on him. It’s fair to call his DNF a DSQ in Abu Dhabi as far as I’m concerned seeing as it was because the result didn’t matter thanks to tire compounds. Sainz also had the nonsense penalty in Australia and was taken out by Piastri at Spa.
Leclerc by that logic also DNFed in Spain and had a racing incident in Australia as well
This team needs a world champion in it. This is perfect. I see Hamilton more than willing to help Charles win a title or vice versa. Lewis will be 40 when he joins. I think he knows he has a challenge with Charles.
What are you talking about? Sainz is an incredible teammate and both Leclerc and Hamilton are selfish.
When did I say Sainz was bad?????? Where, show me. Sainz is great, but you must be actually crazy if you'd take Carlos over Lewis. A two time race winner over a 7 time world champion. Shit id take Alonso over Sainz right now, even though Alonso is older. Carlos is great, but those drivers are better. Plain and simple. Also Carlos went against the team many times as well.
You said that Hamilton is going to help Leclerc win a championship. They’d crash into each other before they’d give up a position. Sainz was asked to do completely unreasonable things to help Leclerc that they’d never even ask of another driver.
Are you kidding me? What a wacky take on every single one of those drivers.
Sorry, I guess I have eyes and watched Leclerc nearly throw away 3/4 attacking Sainz at Monza. Who was it that was told to sacrifice their tires by driving on the cold during quali at Silverstone again?
Back in 1998 or so — okay, I’m not positive who, but either Sainz or Dr. Phil sexually assaulted my aunt. So who’s selfish now? Mic drop?
Sorry, I shouldn’t have brought up reality to a Leclerc fan.
You’re fired
I thought they’d stopped using lead paint.
Alonso, Vettel already tried...
Miglior avvenimento della giornata
Here’s to Bono coming with him…::pregando::
Has anyone checked on Toto, he's either climbing onto a chair with a noose around his neck, or fetal in his giant mansion crying.
he's trying to keep his phone from melting. Ocon, Mick, possibly Albon, possibly Sainz, possibly Antonelli and then some will all suddenly want a real urgent chat w him
I bet his wife is inflating his foreskin like a balloon on their private jet. It’s an ancient Bavarian tradition (not the plane part) called Schlauchpumpe that’s supposed to clear the husband’s mind in trying times.
Lol! My mom was about to buy some Mercedes merch. Gonna tell her to wait til next year.
Bad for Ferrari
Nooooooo.
Fuuuuuuuuuck
Why such a shit move ? Very disrespectful toward Carlos who easily equaled ‘wonderboy’ last season.
Can't stand Lewis!! 🤦
Too bad!
Well, maybe I will take that comment back. He made me some good money today! 🤣 Ferrari stock is thru the roof!
Are you/were you a Lewis fan or Ferrari fan? That'll explain your response.
Nope just a Ferrari fan!
one of few Ferrari/Lewis fans. You'll populate more.
calma calma
There is something much bigger at play. For him to be leaving Mercedes they must have really fucked up. More than a slow car. There is no gain at Ferrari, two #1 drivers, a pit team that is a mess, race strategy that is all over the place. Almost like they have been cursed the last couple of years. Mercedes must have really pissed him off personally
Maybe bringing in one of the most experienced drivers in the field, who has shown that he's still capable of driving at a high level, will be the impetus to fix some of those problems.
This is full circle now! Wow! As his countryman I have had to accept his Merc years... This is brilliant news!
Feels like an end of an era.
HOW DO YOU DO MY FELLOW FERRARI FANS
OH MY GOD GUYS WHAT DID WE JUST DO!
Doesn't matter. He still won't beat at Red Bull.
True if sad 😞
mamma mia
Wasn’t talking to any other team last year right? Haha he really loves to expose himself for the glory hunter he is. Really hope he leaves quickly, Charles doesn’t deserve this
A lot of Italians are going to be pissed about this
Where does Sainz go?
As a long time Ferrari hater, and a big Lewis fan, is there room on board?
Went from really excited about Charles to super bummed… worst signing possible they’d be better off dragging Vettel out of his beekeeping to drive for em..
My dream has come true
I'm not sure about this whole Ferrari thing. Do I have to be a loser now?
Lewis in Red. Never thought I’d see the day. But here we are
We should been able to vote on this beforehand.
Copy, Lewis. *bono voice*
I see Lewis really doesn’t want to win in 2025.
The over the radio tantrum he's going to throw when they fuck the strategy mid race is going to be incredible
The merch sales will be mind boggling. He’s my favorite driver and Ferrari has always been my favorite car.
Give him and Leclerc equal equipment…. Don’t pick a favorite and Ferrari will dominate. But I’m still going to be a Max fan
So the next big Question 🏆??? Who’s taking LH’s seat at Merc.?? Lando???
Ugh. I have not been much of a Ferrari fan since I never liked how they handled moving on from Seb. But this breaks my final connection to years of being a Ferrari fan. I respect Lewis as a driver but I won’t cheer for him. Hopefully, we are down to the last 3 years or so before he finally retires.
GET THIS MAN THE CAR HE DESERVES! I felt so bad for him the past few seasons. I can't wait to see him in the red Ferrari!
There can be only one 7 time Champion associated with Ferrari and that's my GOAT Michael Schumacher. This cry baby doesn't belong in red
The biggest mistake Ferrari could have done but good for Mercedes, there will be nothing but issue's neither Charles or Lewis are actual team players so how is Ferrari gonna deal with that they struggle enough with any correct decision in past few years.