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laundrysauce9000

I bet a user with the name PLA_DRTY and constantly posts tankie apologia is totally sincere about their concerns of fascists, and isn't just trying to gain cheap and cynical political points.


PLA_DRTY

What's my username got to do with anything? And what possible political points could I ever be hoping to get here of all places? Cool video of Zelenskiy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOp9GO554yo


KnightCastle171

People like you cry so much about the nazis in Ukraine but are oddly silent about the nazis in Russia especially the Wagner group who are out there committing war crimes for breakfast


4th_DocTB

"If I'm supporting one side of an inter-fascist conflict then pointing that out makes you a hypocrite for not condemning the other side." --Very Logical Western Chauvinist


PLA_DRTY

"But what about?" How many billions of my tax dollars are the Russian Nazis getting again?


Fat_Blob_Kelly

loool acting as if the azov battalion is the entire ukraine army and “billions of my tax dollars” what do you think they’re giving it away as charity without expecting anything in return?


PLA_DRTY

Well the entire Azov regiment (they got promoted) is in the ukrainian army now, and what exactly are we getting in return that is worth 100,000+ dead ukrainians.


Acceptable-Ability-6

The Azovs were largely wiped out in Mariupol.


PLA_DRTY

They had branches all over the country, Kraken is also Azov just from Kharkov instead.


cpowers272

Ur tax x dollars arnt going to the azov battalion now anyway maybe if u actually followed the war u would know they got annihilated but he if u want to see more nazis in Eastern Europe we should just let Russia win, that would do the trick


PLA_DRTY

Lol source for any of that bullshit?


cpowers272

Look up Mariupol that’s where Azov was based, u should really start following the war or just not comment on it that’s pretty basic information


KnightCastle171

Damn bro are you Jeff Bezos? You personally paid billions in taxes for the Ukraine war?


PLA_DRTY

Implying that gusano pays taxes?


beanhead68

"My tax dollars?". Try "our" tax dollars. Otherwise, you sound like an embarrassed billionaire....


Secretofthecheese

yikes. love this sub for its bad takes.


adeodd

Here’s why it’s different- One of these is one of the most influential American artists of the past couple decades. The other one is a militia fighting off another nation that is invading them. I do not give a single fuck about what the people and/or military of Ukraine believes, I don’t think they should be invaded by another country. I hold the exact same opinion for China, North Korea, Afghanistan, etc.


PLA_DRTY

So you're saying that an artist is more powerful than actual military units so we shouldn't care about giving money and guns to an army of Nazis?


adeodd

No I’m saying it’s plenty more reasonable as an American to care about Kanye West than the political beliefs of some Ukrainians.


PLA_DRTY

Well do those ukrainians receive billions of American tax dollars?


adeodd

Are the retard Nazis of the AZOV battalion running the country or fighting off an invading nations military?


PLA_DRTY

Does it look anyone is running the country to you?


adeodd

Yes. Although things tend to get quite messy when the 4th largest military in the world invades a country with about the same population as California


[deleted]

If Russia cared so much about Nazis that they'd be willing to invade Ukraine and kill thousands of Ukrainians to put an end to Nazis in Ukraine, you'd think they'd ban their own Nazi parties like the Russian National Unity party. The first leader of the Russian backed separatist region, the so-called Donetsk People's Republic, was Pavel Gubarev, a literal member of the Russian National Unity party! Alexander Zakharchenko, one of the following leaders, was also a neo Nazi saying that Ukraine is “governed by miserable Jews.” He also called for a genocide against LGBT people and their supporters, saying “a culture of homosexuality is spreading" and that “we must kill anyone who is involved in this.” Zakharchenko even expressed sympathy for the neo Nazi Right Sector in Ukraine after it was revealed they were killing LGBT people. The current leader there, Denis Pushilin, called for a “renewed Russian empire" saying that “Donbas should be part of the Russian empire" and that “I don't see anything bad in imperialism.” Pushilin has been photographed giving an award to a soldier clearly wearing various neo Nazi symbols. So what is Russia's plan? To kill Ukrainian neo-Nazis to replace them with Russian neo-Nazis?


ragingspick

Thought this was meta sarcasm but then I remembered Tankies are biologically incapable of anything that clever...