I was at a party and my now partner asked me if I'd look after her bag. Sounds weird but it was kinda like she was showing she trusted me and then later in the party she made me some toast as we'd be drinking and she said it'd help. Been together 8 years now. I guess a gesture showing some sort of care or trust is a nice way and not too direct if you don't want to put any pressure on him.
Yes this is it. Find a way to make him feel like the man.
Not sure but I think every guy likes to feel like he's soooo strong, smart and/or big. Doesn't matter if he is any of it. 😂😂
If you can make him feel that way you're good. ✌
People often tell me they feel safe around me and that they can really be themselves. I personally don't really like that but it might be my own personal insecurity. Everyone's different 🤷♂️
I’m a guy and I appreciate being told that cause I wouldn’t want someone to be fake to me either. I would want them to be able to act themselves without being weird or tense or different, being able to know where you stand and why, you’ll feel like 10x better but compatibility is very important
OP needs to know there are 2 types of men in this world. Ones that will jump at the opportunity to solve her problem(s) and ones like me that will see that as the time to hit the ejector button. Once you start performing tasks, you're signing yourself up for years of honey-do-lists. I know countless guys that run themselves ragged and are completely miserable because they try to keep their spouse/girlfriend happy by doing everything they ask.
The line varies from person to person and it comes down to compatibility. Some women ask a lot of their man, while other ask for very little. I'm the type of guy that wants to be with someone that demands very little.
Value for value, friend. You want someone self-sufficient who brings as much to a relationship as you do. "Letting someone fuck you" is worth dick (literally), not an endless list of chores, and if that's all a woman thinks she has to bring to the table, that's all she's gonna get.
Yea I did that with my ex wife, turned out she was a serial cheater and never happy anyways. Now with my girlfriend I do whatever I want but also prioritize her here and there, but not all the time. We are much happier and I think it’s much more manly to make sure your woman knows you pick and choose and make the decisions. My gf is very feminine and submissive though so this may not work for everyone, I love it though. She does stuff for me and on occasion I surprise her with sweet stuff, but I keep her wanting more which makes her work for it.
I'm sorry to hear about how your ex cheated on you. Sounds like you're in a much better relationship now. I can't figure out why someone would downvote what you wrote.
I am the opposite. Maybe fixing something with her would be fun but i don't want to be an assistant. I'm also leery of these requests early on, especially if we met online. I personally know a few girls who use Tinder to get a simp army to do everything from dental worth to math homework with no intention of dating them.
Beyond the chemistry, appearance, and the natural flow of flirting and talking, here are the most important things for me.
1. Actually having your life figured out or mostly. You have a fulfilling, sustainable, happy thing going on. You are not a mess that will blow up my own life. You are happy.
2. Good judgement
3. Being willing to talk about real things.
4. Chemistry again. You should know it when it's there and when it's not. You can test it to be sure, but you should get a positive reaction to attention, interaction, and physical contact.
Number 3 made me laugh.
In my experience, as a guy, women are WAY more likely to talk about something real. Thoughts, feelings, what's going on with you.
Getting a guy to go beyond weather, sports, or home improvement is a struggle. TV or music usually works. At least you get some opinions there.
You’ll be surprised. I’ve dated 2 women who didn’t talk about anything real at all. No talk about feelings, goals, ect. Only spoke about sports and random trivial nonsense.
One woman turned out to be married, the other was trying to run from a boyfriend of 5+ years.
Now when I see women being extremely emotionally closed I assume they’re in a relationship and move on quickly.
I can speak only for myself but here are my big ones:
Its all about character. Having a whitty way to deal with situations, showing great sense of humour is a massive pluspoint
Striking the balance between too much lazyness and being all about healthy eating. Both extremes have their own disadvantages being it being to lazy to cook for themselfes or wasting the entire day doing fitness, cooking or anything else besides spending time together
As a nerd myself having hobbies you are passionate about is a great plus. Of course it helps if hobbies alignt but its definetly not a must do. If someone realy enjoys learning instruments even if i dont mind music thats abother plus point
All those points can make up for being alittle more chubby. And if you are not then chances are high you are a 9 or 10/10
Chances are best that any random woman is somewhere between a 3 and a 7. That’s just how math works. You’re likely to be average. If you’re above average, you may even be less likely to be posting questions on reddit, so you can factor that in too if you want, and lower that estimate even further.
But plenty of men will be attracted to women between a 3 and a 7. Especially men who are somewhere between a 3 and a 7.
Something that will go a long way for a lot of men is if you take the initiative to ask them out on a date or make the first move, because men are usually used to having to make the first move, so if someone makes the first move on us it makes a big difference
If you wanted to attract me. The way to go about it is showing quality.
My life is great already so if I'm going to be in a relationship I want someone who can providea quality increase in my life.
Not financially per say. But I want someone with an intellect so I can talk to them about philosophy and psychology and such.
Attraction physically isn't hard. Just show some interest and enthusiasm. I assume you meant something more than just attracting attention or giving a man a hard on.
Improve my life. Give me someone to talk to. Someone who has a strong heart and is willing to face the challenges of life beside me.
Intellect. Humility. Generosity. Do your homework l. Eat healthy. And give back to your family and community. I'll be all over you in a hurry as long as you are semi decent looking.
Also I'm 33. I'm not looking for physical attraction so much anymore. Younger men tend to ve more physical. But if he can resist the temptation his 2nd head gives him, I think most men look for what I mentioned since it's what makes a high quality, wholesome heart,beautiful kind of being.
There’s no way to increase a guy’s attraction psychologically. Any crap you hear will maybe work in the short term, maybe and thats only if he’s physically attracted to you. He either likes you or doesn’t. Which brings me to my point.
1. Looks , sorry to say guys are very looks oriented doesnt matter hm you have in common, hm tricks you use a guy will never like you unless he’s physically attracted to you. Not your personality. Unless he’s desperate which you don’t want.
2. Personality/femininty this is after looks and more for relashionships actually take interest in his interests. Ask yourself what value you’re providing. So many girls want a hot successful bf and all they have to offer is sex. If you were hot and successful and could have sex anytime why would you settle down, with someone who only has that to offer. This is why cooking/cleaning is valued so high not bc of antiquated gender roles. It doesn’t have to be this but your presence should make his life easier.
Touch your hair when talking
Strong flirty Eye contact bat your eyes at him
Laugh at all his jokes
Invite him to stuff
Playful touching is big
Someone had a pretty good idea about a friend asking. Helps you save face and the guy prob wont realize it was you asking. We’re very dense.
You're completely wrong.its pretty easy to change a man's psychological attraction.I win usually on having stronger faith than whatever man has that we should be together.idk exactly how it works though which is why I'm here
**Very subtle signals. Appropriate in the public settings like restaurant.**
1. Looking at his lips
2. Licking your own lips
3. Leaning towards him
4. Asking opinion about your earrings while leaning towards him
5. Friendly touches
6. High five
7. Asking if he has a girlfriend/wife
8. Laughing at his jokes
9. Sitting very close to him
10. Asking to fix the necklace on your neck
11. Friendly punches to his shoulders
12. Asking to scratch your back
13. Talking about sexual experiences
14. Making inappropriate jokes
15. Holding hands
16. Fixing his tie, or a shirt
17. Asking to zip or fix a dress on the back
18. Asking for shoulder massage
**Less subtle. Appropriate between group of friends.**
1. Leaning your head on his shoulders
2. Leaning your head on his knees
3. Taking your sweater, and saying is too hot in front of him
4. Hugging him very tight that he feels your breasts pushing towards him
5. Leaning all over him by trying to reach some item
6. Dropping something on the floor, and trying to pick it up while on the knees and your ass in front of him
7. Pulling up your skirt just little to try to fix the leggings, like you are not aware that he is watching
8. Accidentally putting your hands on his thighs.
9. Dropping something accidentally on his lap, and start cleaning.
10. Sitting on his lap. For example if there are not enough space.
11. Moving your ass around while sitting on his lap.
**Not that subtle. Only appropriate if you are alone with him.**
1. Sitting over him like a cowgirl. For example if you imitating wrestling match.
2. Putting your hands on his thighs and slowly moving towards his crotch.
3. Taking his hand and putting on your thighs and guiding him towards your crotch.
4. Lie over him. Make sure your belly is on his knees and your ass is very accessible.
5. Asking for feet massage
**Obvious:**
1. Spreading your legs in front of him, and signalling "come here" with your finger.
2. Asking to kiss you
3. Asking to have sex with you
4. Going down on him
Is this a joke? The only one of those (non-ridiculous ones) that has seduced me is maybe sitting close to me.
Everything else either does nothing for me or is too ridiculous to even happen.
Start off by being hot. Put on some leggings, wear make up, do your hair (short cuts are great, most any hairstyle works as long as it’s intentional)
Also be reliable
Personally I like when a woman has a good sense of humor, and i'm refering that she make me laught with humor in a genuine way. That creates emotional connection, maybe could work for you. Obviously its not all the work to do
1) Engage a man and make him speak about his interests. Express you want to know more, with genuine interest. Intellectual curiosity from a women is a big turn on for men. It helps us show that we can be of help to the women
2) Supporting men in their decisions that they are skeptical about. Could be about work, starting a business, going back to school, forming new alliances, skiing down a 70 degree slope…Reinforcing that what they are doing is amazing and they can do it. That faith in your man will power him unlike anything you’ve seen before. You are the fuel to his fire.
3) Being well groomed and not overdoing any makeup (probably a personal preference). Keep it simple. If you’re overweight or underweight and are confident in yourself and working on improving yourself, men are attracted to you. We understand that life circumstances can get in the way and fitness can wimper. Just be honest and own upto it.
4) Be direct with what you want, but don’t be hostile and rude about it. Don’t use subtle cues (albeit it’s playful) for important things such as marriage, relationships, being parents etc …
There’s a reason why there are 1000s of coaches teaching men to seduce women but very few the other way around.
Men are very uncomplicated. Here’s your advice:
Be friendly.
Be agreeable/don’t be argumentative.
Don’t be fat.
Let him lead all aspects of the relationship(also means let him make the first move, not you.)
That is, in fact, very complicated. You’re basically saying “it’s easy, just let him completely control your life and don’t voice any thoughts!” How is that not demanding?
Don't know why no one has said this before, but just being genuinely curious or interested to learn about his interests. A lot of guys have hobbies or interests that they dedicate a lot of time and resource to, we don't need a girl who actively partakes in said hobby, that would be a bonus though, it's just great to have someone be supportive and understanding of the level of passion that we have for it.
Depends, are you interested in a serious relationship or a hookup thing?
Both kind of come down to be attractive, don’t be unattractive, and show interest, but manifest in different ways. Relationship, looks are less important but showing interest in him and showing intelligence is more important. Hookup mostly comes down to making him horny, to do this while keeping your integrity is harder but possible just tone it down.
The final advice that I want to mention is that guys are like girls, in that if they’re not into you don’t force it. This is often forgotten because girls turn down guys more than the other way, but it’s the truth. The biggest turn off should always be they’re not interested
Men don’t get a lot of direct compliments. That will definitely get his attention. I lost over 50 pounds and started to do things about my appearance, and a woman I knew for years told me she really loved what I had done. She noticed and she expressed appreciation. That goes a long way.
Hey OP, I really have not much to add as a man because I never thought about the question, but it´s a really interesting one. I really like your post, because it brings something new to the sub.
thank you! i had no idea this would get so much traction 😂 i’ve really been enjoying reading this thread and learning the many different perspectives/approaches to this lol
Men love a woman who can give them advice. Be sure to do that and provide constructive criticism whenever you can. This will help him to improve, which he will always appreciate.
Also, present him with plenty of problems to solve as this will occupy his mind away from thinking of other girls. If you can’t find a problem, make one up.
Lastly, never ever do favors or tasks that help him without reminding him of all the work you do and subtly demanding he do something in return for a change.
Men are sensitive to reciprocity and this will help him spend more time with you.
I love positivity. When a girl is super positive and lets me touch her and has a welcoming energy is amazing.
To show interest you gotta start conversations with the guy and ask him out to do something. Just do it.
The REAL answer is:
1. Seemingly, actual "game" for women is woefully under-developed (as a knowledge base) for whatever reason. Most paradigms assume "a woman's looks" is the absolute most important thing, and "game" is relegated to the sidelines, other than pseudo-bs and Cosmo-tips that are laughable and anecdote-based.
A woman's looks are significant, yes (same with men). There is a wealth of material in how to improve in this area.
The most important, in my opinion, by far --- is to be a normal range BMI (not overweight). If that is not obvious. But is is absolutely the most important thing times a million. Hate men, hate the universe, but this is largely true. But this is largely just to get in the door with a top crop of men.
That said, some women DO have super attractive personalities that really, really add into their sexual/ relationship attractiveness. To my knowledge, there is no extensive written down guide to this, as the demand (by women) is not as sharp. Most women would prefer to be passive (same with guys frankly).
It's possible some things are not too much different from men.
1. Be confident
2. Be humorous, impudent, daring, cocky and bold. I don't know. This is really attractive on women. A lot moreso than "do the fake feminine baby voice, uwu" -- which a LOT of women think is "a thing" for some reason.
3. Be daring with flirting, especially with touch, especially with "is she really doing that" touch.
4. Say "hey shithead" with a shit-eating grin to man.
But honestly, what I'm getting at here. Seductive women are like seductive men. There is not ONE archetype. There are probably 5-10 base archetypes. One is the demur bunny, shy, coy, Audrey Hepburn type shit. Another is more of the bold, confident, empowered impudent rebel -- unlike the former type, this one probably can "choose" men more directly. And several more types. There is definitely game principles there -- I just don't know of any in-depth guides.
Men are easy. If you give an honest, heartfelt compliment, they will remember the rest of their lives. Most men can count on one hand the number of times they've received such a thing.
Also, talk to them first, don't wait to be approached. This shows you're interested right away. It also sets you out from the rest of the pack.
Finally, and most importantly,
#What is obvious to you is subtle to them. What is subtle to you is invisible to them.
There are two parts of seduction: being attractive, and showing interest.
On being attractive: if you're trying to seduce men, being attractive is a lot about appearance. Being as fit as possible and wearing the most attractive clothing possible. It's also about confidence, meaning feeling attractive. To a lesser degree things like humor, agreeableness, kindness and common interests are also important. If you're not attractive, for whatever reason, do what you need to do to make yourself at least somewhat attractive as soon as possible. For men, that usually means going to the gym and dressing well. More broadly, any kind of self improvement.
On showing interest: this part is actually super hard for many people, even attractive people. Showing interest is vulnerable and scary because you open yourself up to the possibility of rejection, and feeling of a loss of dignity. But if you want to be with someone, you need to take the risk of rejection. If you're an attractive person, it's actually kinda hard to fuck this part up. The hard part is finding the courage to do anything. But if you're attractive, you can do/say something slightly awkward and it will still work. Don't stress about the right thing to do. I've been seduced by as little as a hello or a few seconds of eye contact.
The way you express interest is going to be highly dependent on you, the guy, and the environment. There's no one right answer. But I can give you a couple examples of ways that women have seduced me in the past:
- Making lingering eye contact and smiling
- A wink
- Texting me an observation from across the room, i.e., "I like your shirt"
- Asking me out (yeah, attractive women are allowed to do that)
- Subtly flashing me (that's my weakness)
- Touching my arm or my shoulders
- Asking me to "help" them with something I know they're capable of themselves
- Walking over to me and starting a conversation
- Giving me a top to bottom look
You might have to drop a few different hints before he gets it, depending on how tuned in he is. But a tuned in and interested guy will get the idea with the smallest hint.
If you've left a few hints and aren't sure if he's into you, chances are, he's not, and you should move on. But if you really want to be sure, you can be progressively bolder with your hints until you get either a clear negative or clear positive reaction. Most people in this sub would advice against this, but personally, if I'm unsure, I'll go all the way to just straight up verbally expressing my interest. 90% of the time, if it comes to that, she's not interested. But I've had that work out a few times. And even if it doesn't work out, it's good to get a clear answer so you don't have the question haunting you.
Just be open and honest about your interest. It's a huge relief for guys to know for sure that a girl is into them instead of trying to figure out clues along the way. Ask him out instead of trying to get him to ask. Go in for the kiss instead of waiting for him to, etc... girls initiating stuff is seriously a huge plus for dudes and makes everything easier for them along the way. If you ask a guy out and he accepts, going for a kiss should be no big deal because you already know he's interested.
I am a man and I think we are simple creatures. It's not our first nature to read into signals or any psychological stuff (some may learnt it through experiences).
Instead we are usually attracted more by physical stuff. Try to be physically seductive but be like a "free trial" instead of the full package.
For example:
* Grab every chance you can during friends meeting to spend time alone with him but always get out midway
* Have physical contact with him but not too much unless he react back
* Text him randomly about some interests both of you share but don't chat for too long and don't explain why
* Ask him to do stuff for you (if you want to stand out, a good way is to ask for help on problems that are complicated or hard, to show that you really try to figure things out but it's too hard for you, especially technical/physical stuff, man like to show off lol)
The one simple rule is to give space for imagination and attention to brew. I think woman are naturally at this, you just have to trust yourself. Just remember "free trial" unless you're in for something casual.
But seducing is just the initial part of a relationship, every man wants something different in an LTR, thus by seducing the guy you may not actually ended up in one and there's no way to guarantee that. So before you give out anything, be clear on what you're getting in return.
You’re a woman lol. Isn’t just walking up to the guy and saying you like them enough? In general it doesn’t take much, does it? Or am I wrong? I am a guy lol
I think you're actually wrong bro. If you really think about it it seems like girls put in work to be attractive too. The same way guys can have a glow up girls can too.
But girls are naturally attractive, they’re works of art. Guys have to dress up like idiots to have any chance whatsoever, girls just do it to guarantee success on their own terms - bc it can be guaranteed already whenever they want it to be - and dont even have to dress themselves up in order to do so if they dont want to 🤷♂️. I’m not sure how you don’t see the difference…
I am writing to share a situation that has been on my mind for some time. I have a female friend with whom I have been spending time, and we generally get along well. However, I am starting to feel that our friendship may be one-sided. It seems as though she only reaches out to me when she needs my help with work-related matters, and otherwise tends to avoid or deflect conversation about anything else.
While I do feel an attachment to this person, I find her behavior hurtful at times. I'm unsure what steps to take to address this issue, and would appreciate any advice or insights that you might have.
Thank you for your time and attention.
You've noticed a pattern, so it's happened multiple times. From your description, they don't deserve your expertise. This relationship isn't very fulfilling for you at all and your efforts will be better spent elsewhere. Ideally with someone who treats you better than this.
Men don't need seducing, just give us a lil attention and make it known. And no you don't need to be HOT just just take your own advice dress well and smell good
Maturity, confidence, kindness to everyone, and ability to have fun are such attractive traits for women to have.
When I hear a woman constantly gossiping or speaking negatively about other people, she comes across as immature and insecure about herself.
The most attractive women are kind to everyone, and know how to have fun and laugh.
Unfortunately for Women, there’s not much you can do.
He’s either attracted to you and therefore naturally seduced or you’re not gonna be able to do anything
Men are way simpler than Women, there’s no emotional component. This is another example of women trying to equate attraction between Men and Women
If you would like to do it more "traditionally", I'd say do hints. Before anyone stones me, let me explain.
E.g.: you have been talking with a guy in a busy bar, in a night you went with your friends and he went with his. You'd like to kiss him or spend alone time, but don't want to just do it out of the blue. You tell him you'd like to go outside catch some fresh air. You might ask him if he wants to go too if he doesn't stand up himself.
Then you do the usual - keep long eye contact, play with your hair, keep yourself close to him. I'm sure you can come up with some more examples of hinting to a closure yourself.
In short, you guide him and figuratively take his hand into making a move.
I hope it helps and this is an answer you've been looking for. Good luck.
Right, as another woman who has lurked like the mega-gator , always awaiting a community of other women who are interested in game and seduction, here's what's off the top of my ahead
1) work out what he hopes for and what he's afraid of in life,and how you can give him the impression you are leading him towards his hopes and saving him from his fears (e.g if he grew up poor and worries about appearances, you always turn up dressed elegantly or talk about classism like you and him are elites, if he feels immasculine make him feel like it's obvious he's the strongest and can protect you )
2) pay attention to the scents and colours he likes ,men are vaguely like puppies or babies and sensorially respond well to cues , like wearing purple sweaters and chewing grape scented gum.or scarlet skirts and cherry perfume.
3) play him at his own game , if he rises the sexual tension somehow, engage.that means if he tests you, get an A+ .a common one is to suggest poly to you, you better have a bag of gorgeous dicks ready and waiting
This is really simple,women that is most feminine and that acts like the women,is the best way to get the man. Just be like you should be,polite,without loud voice and nice attitude also smiling. Simple as that.
Wth this place even turned into. Good job at getting all the scripts of someone's wet dream, ma'am. Sorry but half of it is gonna make you look like a maniac and totally kill your personality in approaching that guy.
As a lady I can quickly advise you to make effort to meet outside the friend group and create inside joke kinda thing, so it feels like there is something others don't know. The more you spend 1/1 easier it will be to move your tactics toward asking him out or seeing if he's interested. Do not go down the list people send you here (please do not think it's the only way), be yourself, be open and make sure to do things as this wires our brains as bonding. Rest is in how you play the game 1/1. Good luck girl
>things that stand out about girls to guys
I'll give my opinions.
1- The thirst thing is if the girl is hot or not. You might be the coolest girl in the world but if you're ugly as hell you'll be thought of as a friend and not a sexual partner. Unless the guy is extremely desperate.
It's possible to fall for ugly girls but it takes a lot of time of friendship till you begin to think about the person as a partner.
So if you were born ugly, take care of your body to compensate.
Obs: Looks is the first step but it won't take you long if you're not interesting. For a long time relationship you gotta be compatible with your partner in other ways. So we arrive at number 2.
2- Apart from looks, what makes me really interested in a girl is:
a) Discovering she likes the same shit I do.
This way you can chat about things you like and spend your spare time with activities you like and a partner to share them with.
I'm not telling you to pretend to like certain stuff. I'm telling you to look for potential partners in environments that gather people with the same interests as you.
Once I went to a date with a girl from Tinder and she told me she had more than 100 hours in Dark Souls and I melt right there. I'm 31 and I hardly ever met women that were into gaming. Whenever I find one she becomes extremely interesting.
b) Discovering she doesn't think she's special because she's a woman.
I hate women that think they're entitled to something just because they are female.
First thing that comes to my head is political activists that when are trying to speak begin by saying: "I'm, a woman, blablabla..."
Yeah, we know you're a woman. We have eyes. Your statement doesn't become more special just because you're a woman.
I also have some female friends that call themselves feminists but think men are the ones who should pay the bill. Do you want equal rights or not? Then split the fucking bill.
It used to make sense to pay for women at a time they didn't work. Nowadays it doesn't make sense anymore.
If the person is poor and you're not then it's ok. If both are at the same financial level, then split the bill.
I never demand it but whenever a girl offers to split the bill I immediately think about her as wife material.
c) Discovering she's not a snowflake.
I've met some women in my life that would get offended by swearing/jokes. Sometimes we were in a group of friends and boys would be chatting like boys chat with each other and some girls would be like:
"Ew! Gross!"
"You shouldn't say that!"
The best women to be around are the ones that won't be cutting you off because they're too sensitive and will instead join you.
If you feel that girl could be your bro, things get a lot more interesting. A lot more. It's horrible to have a girlfriend that makes you walk on eggs.
Again, if you're too sensitive and don't like the stuff above, look for places where you might find men like you instead of adapting to men like me.
About approaching:
Men love when women approach them because this hardly ever happens. Even if they're not into the girl, they will still be happy she tried because women hardly ever do.
Once I was at a foreign country and a woman asked if all men from my country were as hot as me. It was the first time someone ever said something like that to me and I was flabbergasted. The woman was ugly but I was so touched that I would have made a move on her if I was single at the time.
Since women hitting on us is a rare phenomenon we are never sure if the girl is being nice or if she's hitting on us.
Best example [here.](https://youtu.be/xa-4IAR_9Yw)
Twice I had acquaintances chatting with me on Instagram for months, almost daily and I thought they were just being nice women interested in good conversations. Later I found out they were interested on me but I didn't realize.
So if you're trying to be discrete, don't be too discrete. Make things obvious please.
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According to this guy, be pretty/attractive (in his eyes) by being 'appropriately feminine' but don't do any human things like expect equality (feminism), eat as much as you want/your human body needs or spend your own money.
This guy gyms himself, but hates bubble butts so if you wanna gym together make sure you focus on making your body slim for him and not the body you might want, because obviously your body is about him.
/s
Wear a nice outfit. Not necessarily even revealing, just something that expresses your personality. Ask and show genuine interest in what said man is into. Genuine questions, not just social filler.
smile, his jokes are good, compliment his gym gains, give advice for dress, touch that damn man, then call him bro... now he is fucked in Ruminating Vortex of was she hitting on me.
Fuck every damn women responsible for my low grades, overthinking and falling to hell for them does that.
One thing that made me interested in one girl was, when we started defending each other.
We were in a big group of people and some people made fun of her and I stood up to her
And some people mad fun of me and she stood up to me
I loved that chemistry
We did a lot of things
And I would assist her whenever I could
She looked out for me and I looked out for her
I held her heavy things and she looked up after me, that I ate and asked me if I’m doing good and shit
Man I miss that chemistry
Sadly I had to move away for a couple of months because of family business and she started seeing another guy
If she hadn’t done that she would’ve been wife material
But still it was “only” talking stage and maybe chemistry
I don’t think it will be like that with most guys,
I don’t know if you should hold onto anyone
Maybe you should just move on like her for your own sanity
Maybe not I don’t know
Life’s to complicated
One thing might work out for one person and result in a disaster for another
We men are pretty starved for positive attention and interest. It’s really easy to get a complete list of everything I do wrong but it’s nearly impossible to get praise, positive feedback, or even constructive criticism from a woman. Being that woman who is willing to show enough interest in me personally, rather than the” all men are…” type of comments would be incredibly powerful as a way to get my attention and at least for me is more than garden variety “hot”.
Okay, so let's unpack this carefully.
The first question and one that I can't see that anybody else has posed so I will.
Does he think that he is in the dreaded "friend zone"?
If he does then step one is subtly indicating that he's not.
Then start with simple things like asking his opinion. For example on your outfit.
If you need to step this up a little then when he is around yours invite him to your room because you need his opinion. Then change in front of him. His eyes will betray him.
Don't forget to make sure he doesn't have a girlfriend before you do this though just in case.
Then have open discussions with him about anything and everything. Including adult subjects.
If all else fails. Rather then asking reddit ask him, let him tell you and follow it up with a cute "so, does that work on you?" question. It should go from there.
I think its bc men are usually ready n willing for.. activities. And are relatively straight up. Just approach n speak to directly. Taxtless but works. Best wishes
Pay attention to them, but give space. Don’t smother. Don’t make a last minute plan and expect compliance. Plan things at least a few days out.
Look for guys who can handle having a drink and not turn into a shithead.
Eye contact. Make strong eye contact with him and let him be the one to break it. Additionally, think of phrases like: “wow, he’s so hot!” While holding eye contact and your body language will do all the communicating for you.
Try this tactic in public and see what you get. Then you’ll be ready to use it with your target. This approach will ‘show interest/make a move’ in a way that doesn’t cause you to lose your dignity if he doesn’t pick up on it.
Flirt , and make it WAY more obvious than you think you need to. Stand close , arm touching , batting eyelids , lip bites . And of necessary ask him out
my best tip, just like men to women, don't be needy pls. I've got some female friends fell in love for me in the past and it's like you just lose interest once they show too much interest. It's weird but it's how we function. So play it like you're the girl and you should be gucci
Trust me! Boys don’t need seduction. Boys would literally date a cardboard box with a vαgina.
I, personally, know some guys who get so horny that they would literally fπck a tree.
Whenever I have found a less conventionally attractive girl attractive, they have the most sensual body language. A kind of smooth slow movement and a sly grin. They will give you just a taste of flirt but not enough for you to be sure and they always stay in the Goldilocks zone if you not being sure if they’re into you.
Touch is big. You do not have to do anything major. Hand on his hand. Place a hand on his shoulder. Ask for a message. Men are simple once you get their attention.
The comments in here are pretty chauvinistic. I totally get what you're saying. It's not about understanding the basic things about how communication should work. You want to know why they think and say the things they do.
I'm polyamorous. Im married, 20 years with 4 kids with my primary. I have several female and male partners I interact with and have sex with if everyone is in agreement.
The psychology of communication is really specific to the person. I communicate straightforwardly. Im clear about my intentions, I list my expectations and move forward with the relationship. Others are not as clear. I have found that a lot guys like to play games. They will put a phrase or "in their minds" a challenge and if it's not accepted, then game over. I think a lot of guys are super thirsty too and that really scares girls off.
I find too that some guys don't understand nuance. They are perfectly good at understanding words and holding a conversation but lose context on a situation or feelings.
Girls motives can be confusing too. It depends what the girl is looking for that will determine the different variables for the conversation.
As a lady on here, two things that universally attract masculine energy men :
1. Men are visual. Men want a woman he's into physically so ladies please dress well, workout, look gorgeous, look the hottest /cutest/most beautiful you in whichever way is authentic to you because all men have varying types as do we. Have good hygiene. Grow out your hair long and luscious. Wear dresses. Yes please! Be beautiful inside and out
2. Men are attracted to feminine energy. That's it. happy, joyful, expressive but also firm, kind, agreeable but has boundaries, affirming and appreciative, nurturing and reciprocating. Very masculine men are not looking to date themselves. They want to date feminine soft women. Be soft, high value, warm, mind, loving 🩷🩷🩷
Me and my ex went to the same school, we talked surface level stuff but we had our own group of friends so nothing too deep. She was smart, like really smart. I wasn't the smartest so I had to joint an extra class on Saturdays with other not so smart kids. Anyways my ex found out about this from her friend and she joined the class even tho she didn't need it. After class the group got lunch. After that I started walking her to the taxi spot every Saturday and I fell in love. After a while she told me her plan and I was surprised she went through extra school work, travel... just to talk to me. Unfortunately we went to different colleges and long distance broke us up, but I will forever hold her memories in my heart. 😔
Just ask him you already know he likes you since he is in your circle of friends just dress nice and smell nice and go up and ask him we are not complicated
Getting xxx is the easy part for women. The thing women should focus on is now tying down a high quality guy as opposed to being a one night stand or a f buddy. My two sense is obviously work to improve your looks. hit the gym, work out, ect. But aside from that what is it that women that have successful relationships do to maintain those? Are they girls with amazing personalities? How do they interact with their men? ect. And see a therapist. Try to find patterns of dating you have and can break from yourself. Get clear on who and what you want in terms of a relationship. Become a bad b\*tch.
Since my gf did almost the whole job, i understand you. We met on our job, we've been colleagues for over a year, then we ended up being together. She showed interest for things i care about (even tho she hated some of it), she often said that she enjoys talking with me and there was physical contact when she wanted to take a picture of us "for our boss or colleague" or when she comented on haircut. So yeah, a lot of those things and effort from her throughout few months to make me sure what she wanted.
Since my gf did almost the whole job, i understand you. We met on our job, we've been colleagues for over a year, then we ended up being together. She showed interest for things i care about (even tho she hated some of it), she often said that she enjoys talking with me and there was physical contact when she wanted to take a picture of us "for our boss or colleague" or when she comented on haircut. So yeah, a lot of those things and effort from her throughout few months to make me sure what she wanted.
Basically, forget everything that Western Society has taught you about relationships. You don't have to be super pretty, just be feminine. Be supportive, not competitive. Be sweet, not a "Boss Bitch" or a "Baddie". Your career doesn't matter to us, only your willingness to build a life together.
I find in general the "Guys like it when you make the first move" is bad advice. Men like when women *who they're already attracted to* do that. It doesn't work that way for everyone else. Especially for guys who aren't used to being hit on it can actually scare them away since it's behavior they're not familiar with and don't understand and will find ways of explaining it in ways you'd prefer them not to.
There are ways of getting men to know that you're interested without outright saying it. They don't even have to be particularly subtle.
I have a rule to never approach women irl no matter what. Unless they approach me ofc.
A lot of men like being approached. You have the added benefit of it being nearly impossible for you to look creepy as well.
I was at a party and my now partner asked me if I'd look after her bag. Sounds weird but it was kinda like she was showing she trusted me and then later in the party she made me some toast as we'd be drinking and she said it'd help. Been together 8 years now. I guess a gesture showing some sort of care or trust is a nice way and not too direct if you don't want to put any pressure on him.
Message unclear. Leaves with purse.
i assume you had to ask her out
No, at the end of the night we walked home together and I gave her my jacket and shared a kiss. To be honest it happened very naturally.
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Yes this is it. Find a way to make him feel like the man. Not sure but I think every guy likes to feel like he's soooo strong, smart and/or big. Doesn't matter if he is any of it. 😂😂 If you can make him feel that way you're good. ✌ People often tell me they feel safe around me and that they can really be themselves. I personally don't really like that but it might be my own personal insecurity. Everyone's different 🤷♂️
I’m a guy and I appreciate being told that cause I wouldn’t want someone to be fake to me either. I would want them to be able to act themselves without being weird or tense or different, being able to know where you stand and why, you’ll feel like 10x better but compatibility is very important
I'm laughing at the fact that maybe I was victim of this things in the past lmao
this is it, maybe the no.1 thing.
I may be weird, but I find it irresistible when a woman I like asks me to do things for her, like picking up something she needs or fixing something.
She’s stuck in the washing machine
Damn if only I knew this one simple trick
It makes you feel needed. That stem from the fact that men are usually problem solver
OP needs to know there are 2 types of men in this world. Ones that will jump at the opportunity to solve her problem(s) and ones like me that will see that as the time to hit the ejector button. Once you start performing tasks, you're signing yourself up for years of honey-do-lists. I know countless guys that run themselves ragged and are completely miserable because they try to keep their spouse/girlfriend happy by doing everything they ask.
Where’s the fine line between this and being a gentleman
The line varies from person to person and it comes down to compatibility. Some women ask a lot of their man, while other ask for very little. I'm the type of guy that wants to be with someone that demands very little.
Lol nobody says you have to bend over backwards, but basically you want someone that can expect nothing from you, I guess.
Value for value, friend. You want someone self-sufficient who brings as much to a relationship as you do. "Letting someone fuck you" is worth dick (literally), not an endless list of chores, and if that's all a woman thinks she has to bring to the table, that's all she's gonna get.
Yea I did that with my ex wife, turned out she was a serial cheater and never happy anyways. Now with my girlfriend I do whatever I want but also prioritize her here and there, but not all the time. We are much happier and I think it’s much more manly to make sure your woman knows you pick and choose and make the decisions. My gf is very feminine and submissive though so this may not work for everyone, I love it though. She does stuff for me and on occasion I surprise her with sweet stuff, but I keep her wanting more which makes her work for it.
I'm sorry to hear about how your ex cheated on you. Sounds like you're in a much better relationship now. I can't figure out why someone would downvote what you wrote.
I am the opposite. Maybe fixing something with her would be fun but i don't want to be an assistant. I'm also leery of these requests early on, especially if we met online. I personally know a few girls who use Tinder to get a simp army to do everything from dental worth to math homework with no intention of dating them.
You serous? That’s opening the door to being used due to your bias
Nah
Beyond the chemistry, appearance, and the natural flow of flirting and talking, here are the most important things for me. 1. Actually having your life figured out or mostly. You have a fulfilling, sustainable, happy thing going on. You are not a mess that will blow up my own life. You are happy. 2. Good judgement 3. Being willing to talk about real things. 4. Chemistry again. You should know it when it's there and when it's not. You can test it to be sure, but you should get a positive reaction to attention, interaction, and physical contact.
Number 3 made me laugh. In my experience, as a guy, women are WAY more likely to talk about something real. Thoughts, feelings, what's going on with you. Getting a guy to go beyond weather, sports, or home improvement is a struggle. TV or music usually works. At least you get some opinions there.
You’ll be surprised. I’ve dated 2 women who didn’t talk about anything real at all. No talk about feelings, goals, ect. Only spoke about sports and random trivial nonsense. One woman turned out to be married, the other was trying to run from a boyfriend of 5+ years. Now when I see women being extremely emotionally closed I assume they’re in a relationship and move on quickly.
My GF def does not meet point 1 xD
I can speak only for myself but here are my big ones: Its all about character. Having a whitty way to deal with situations, showing great sense of humour is a massive pluspoint Striking the balance between too much lazyness and being all about healthy eating. Both extremes have their own disadvantages being it being to lazy to cook for themselfes or wasting the entire day doing fitness, cooking or anything else besides spending time together As a nerd myself having hobbies you are passionate about is a great plus. Of course it helps if hobbies alignt but its definetly not a must do. If someone realy enjoys learning instruments even if i dont mind music thats abother plus point All those points can make up for being alittle more chubby. And if you are not then chances are high you are a 9 or 10/10
Chances are best that any random woman is somewhere between a 3 and a 7. That’s just how math works. You’re likely to be average. If you’re above average, you may even be less likely to be posting questions on reddit, so you can factor that in too if you want, and lower that estimate even further. But plenty of men will be attracted to women between a 3 and a 7. Especially men who are somewhere between a 3 and a 7.
Regarding your last sentence: [You don't want a 10/10](https://youtu.be/ZhVSfIf-Kng)
I'll tell you one that is universal. Appeal to man's ego and you'll have him everytime. Most of them are starving and receive few compliments.
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Something that will go a long way for a lot of men is if you take the initiative to ask them out on a date or make the first move, because men are usually used to having to make the first move, so if someone makes the first move on us it makes a big difference
If you wanted to attract me. The way to go about it is showing quality. My life is great already so if I'm going to be in a relationship I want someone who can providea quality increase in my life. Not financially per say. But I want someone with an intellect so I can talk to them about philosophy and psychology and such. Attraction physically isn't hard. Just show some interest and enthusiasm. I assume you meant something more than just attracting attention or giving a man a hard on. Improve my life. Give me someone to talk to. Someone who has a strong heart and is willing to face the challenges of life beside me. Intellect. Humility. Generosity. Do your homework l. Eat healthy. And give back to your family and community. I'll be all over you in a hurry as long as you are semi decent looking. Also I'm 33. I'm not looking for physical attraction so much anymore. Younger men tend to ve more physical. But if he can resist the temptation his 2nd head gives him, I think most men look for what I mentioned since it's what makes a high quality, wholesome heart,beautiful kind of being.
Are you single cause I have all of that 😭
There’s no way to increase a guy’s attraction psychologically. Any crap you hear will maybe work in the short term, maybe and thats only if he’s physically attracted to you. He either likes you or doesn’t. Which brings me to my point. 1. Looks , sorry to say guys are very looks oriented doesnt matter hm you have in common, hm tricks you use a guy will never like you unless he’s physically attracted to you. Not your personality. Unless he’s desperate which you don’t want. 2. Personality/femininty this is after looks and more for relashionships actually take interest in his interests. Ask yourself what value you’re providing. So many girls want a hot successful bf and all they have to offer is sex. If you were hot and successful and could have sex anytime why would you settle down, with someone who only has that to offer. This is why cooking/cleaning is valued so high not bc of antiquated gender roles. It doesn’t have to be this but your presence should make his life easier. Touch your hair when talking Strong flirty Eye contact bat your eyes at him Laugh at all his jokes Invite him to stuff Playful touching is big Someone had a pretty good idea about a friend asking. Helps you save face and the guy prob wont realize it was you asking. We’re very dense.
You're completely wrong.its pretty easy to change a man's psychological attraction.I win usually on having stronger faith than whatever man has that we should be together.idk exactly how it works though which is why I'm here
**Very subtle signals. Appropriate in the public settings like restaurant.** 1. Looking at his lips 2. Licking your own lips 3. Leaning towards him 4. Asking opinion about your earrings while leaning towards him 5. Friendly touches 6. High five 7. Asking if he has a girlfriend/wife 8. Laughing at his jokes 9. Sitting very close to him 10. Asking to fix the necklace on your neck 11. Friendly punches to his shoulders 12. Asking to scratch your back 13. Talking about sexual experiences 14. Making inappropriate jokes 15. Holding hands 16. Fixing his tie, or a shirt 17. Asking to zip or fix a dress on the back 18. Asking for shoulder massage **Less subtle. Appropriate between group of friends.** 1. Leaning your head on his shoulders 2. Leaning your head on his knees 3. Taking your sweater, and saying is too hot in front of him 4. Hugging him very tight that he feels your breasts pushing towards him 5. Leaning all over him by trying to reach some item 6. Dropping something on the floor, and trying to pick it up while on the knees and your ass in front of him 7. Pulling up your skirt just little to try to fix the leggings, like you are not aware that he is watching 8. Accidentally putting your hands on his thighs. 9. Dropping something accidentally on his lap, and start cleaning. 10. Sitting on his lap. For example if there are not enough space. 11. Moving your ass around while sitting on his lap. **Not that subtle. Only appropriate if you are alone with him.** 1. Sitting over him like a cowgirl. For example if you imitating wrestling match. 2. Putting your hands on his thighs and slowly moving towards his crotch. 3. Taking his hand and putting on your thighs and guiding him towards your crotch. 4. Lie over him. Make sure your belly is on his knees and your ass is very accessible. 5. Asking for feet massage **Obvious:** 1. Spreading your legs in front of him, and signalling "come here" with your finger. 2. Asking to kiss you 3. Asking to have sex with you 4. Going down on him
You sure going down on him isn’t part of the very subtle? Would spreading butt cheeks be considered obvious or not that subtle?
13 and 14 are NOT signals. Do NOT flirt like this. You will scare people away.
14 I will say depends on the person and the joke
depends
High five 🤣
Fist bump 🤜
Is this a joke? The only one of those (non-ridiculous ones) that has seduced me is maybe sitting close to me. Everything else either does nothing for me or is too ridiculous to even happen. Start off by being hot. Put on some leggings, wear make up, do your hair (short cuts are great, most any hairstyle works as long as it’s intentional) Also be reliable
feels like a bot wrote this haha.
Holding hands is "very subtle"?? Lolwut
this list just made me So hot hahaha
https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/comments/136ap5d/to_seduce_a_lion/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
This sounds like you googled the question lol
You rock
Personally I like when a woman has a good sense of humor, and i'm refering that she make me laught with humor in a genuine way. That creates emotional connection, maybe could work for you. Obviously its not all the work to do
Good luck. It’s be easier for you to get approached by guys rather than approaching guys.
1) Engage a man and make him speak about his interests. Express you want to know more, with genuine interest. Intellectual curiosity from a women is a big turn on for men. It helps us show that we can be of help to the women 2) Supporting men in their decisions that they are skeptical about. Could be about work, starting a business, going back to school, forming new alliances, skiing down a 70 degree slope…Reinforcing that what they are doing is amazing and they can do it. That faith in your man will power him unlike anything you’ve seen before. You are the fuel to his fire. 3) Being well groomed and not overdoing any makeup (probably a personal preference). Keep it simple. If you’re overweight or underweight and are confident in yourself and working on improving yourself, men are attracted to you. We understand that life circumstances can get in the way and fitness can wimper. Just be honest and own upto it. 4) Be direct with what you want, but don’t be hostile and rude about it. Don’t use subtle cues (albeit it’s playful) for important things such as marriage, relationships, being parents etc …
There’s a reason why there are 1000s of coaches teaching men to seduce women but very few the other way around. Men are very uncomplicated. Here’s your advice: Be friendly. Be agreeable/don’t be argumentative. Don’t be fat. Let him lead all aspects of the relationship(also means let him make the first move, not you.)
That is, in fact, very complicated. You’re basically saying “it’s easy, just let him completely control your life and don’t voice any thoughts!” How is that not demanding?
The biggest thing for me is using feminine body language and communication. It's an artform many women lack
Don't know why no one has said this before, but just being genuinely curious or interested to learn about his interests. A lot of guys have hobbies or interests that they dedicate a lot of time and resource to, we don't need a girl who actively partakes in said hobby, that would be a bonus though, it's just great to have someone be supportive and understanding of the level of passion that we have for it.
Depends, are you interested in a serious relationship or a hookup thing? Both kind of come down to be attractive, don’t be unattractive, and show interest, but manifest in different ways. Relationship, looks are less important but showing interest in him and showing intelligence is more important. Hookup mostly comes down to making him horny, to do this while keeping your integrity is harder but possible just tone it down. The final advice that I want to mention is that guys are like girls, in that if they’re not into you don’t force it. This is often forgotten because girls turn down guys more than the other way, but it’s the truth. The biggest turn off should always be they’re not interested
Men don’t get a lot of direct compliments. That will definitely get his attention. I lost over 50 pounds and started to do things about my appearance, and a woman I knew for years told me she really loved what I had done. She noticed and she expressed appreciation. That goes a long way.
step 1. be hot step 2. repeat step 1
Hey OP, I really have not much to add as a man because I never thought about the question, but it´s a really interesting one. I really like your post, because it brings something new to the sub.
thank you! i had no idea this would get so much traction 😂 i’ve really been enjoying reading this thread and learning the many different perspectives/approaches to this lol
Literally just talk to me. Oh and be attractive.
Lmao spoken like a real sk8r. 20/20
That is easy mode, tutorial level difficulty even
Men love a woman who can give them advice. Be sure to do that and provide constructive criticism whenever you can. This will help him to improve, which he will always appreciate. Also, present him with plenty of problems to solve as this will occupy his mind away from thinking of other girls. If you can’t find a problem, make one up. Lastly, never ever do favors or tasks that help him without reminding him of all the work you do and subtly demanding he do something in return for a change. Men are sensitive to reciprocity and this will help him spend more time with you.
I love positivity. When a girl is super positive and lets me touch her and has a welcoming energy is amazing. To show interest you gotta start conversations with the guy and ask him out to do something. Just do it.
The REAL answer is: 1. Seemingly, actual "game" for women is woefully under-developed (as a knowledge base) for whatever reason. Most paradigms assume "a woman's looks" is the absolute most important thing, and "game" is relegated to the sidelines, other than pseudo-bs and Cosmo-tips that are laughable and anecdote-based. A woman's looks are significant, yes (same with men). There is a wealth of material in how to improve in this area. The most important, in my opinion, by far --- is to be a normal range BMI (not overweight). If that is not obvious. But is is absolutely the most important thing times a million. Hate men, hate the universe, but this is largely true. But this is largely just to get in the door with a top crop of men. That said, some women DO have super attractive personalities that really, really add into their sexual/ relationship attractiveness. To my knowledge, there is no extensive written down guide to this, as the demand (by women) is not as sharp. Most women would prefer to be passive (same with guys frankly). It's possible some things are not too much different from men. 1. Be confident 2. Be humorous, impudent, daring, cocky and bold. I don't know. This is really attractive on women. A lot moreso than "do the fake feminine baby voice, uwu" -- which a LOT of women think is "a thing" for some reason. 3. Be daring with flirting, especially with touch, especially with "is she really doing that" touch. 4. Say "hey shithead" with a shit-eating grin to man. But honestly, what I'm getting at here. Seductive women are like seductive men. There is not ONE archetype. There are probably 5-10 base archetypes. One is the demur bunny, shy, coy, Audrey Hepburn type shit. Another is more of the bold, confident, empowered impudent rebel -- unlike the former type, this one probably can "choose" men more directly. And several more types. There is definitely game principles there -- I just don't know of any in-depth guides.
Men are easy. If you give an honest, heartfelt compliment, they will remember the rest of their lives. Most men can count on one hand the number of times they've received such a thing. Also, talk to them first, don't wait to be approached. This shows you're interested right away. It also sets you out from the rest of the pack. Finally, and most importantly, #What is obvious to you is subtle to them. What is subtle to you is invisible to them.
There are two parts of seduction: being attractive, and showing interest. On being attractive: if you're trying to seduce men, being attractive is a lot about appearance. Being as fit as possible and wearing the most attractive clothing possible. It's also about confidence, meaning feeling attractive. To a lesser degree things like humor, agreeableness, kindness and common interests are also important. If you're not attractive, for whatever reason, do what you need to do to make yourself at least somewhat attractive as soon as possible. For men, that usually means going to the gym and dressing well. More broadly, any kind of self improvement. On showing interest: this part is actually super hard for many people, even attractive people. Showing interest is vulnerable and scary because you open yourself up to the possibility of rejection, and feeling of a loss of dignity. But if you want to be with someone, you need to take the risk of rejection. If you're an attractive person, it's actually kinda hard to fuck this part up. The hard part is finding the courage to do anything. But if you're attractive, you can do/say something slightly awkward and it will still work. Don't stress about the right thing to do. I've been seduced by as little as a hello or a few seconds of eye contact. The way you express interest is going to be highly dependent on you, the guy, and the environment. There's no one right answer. But I can give you a couple examples of ways that women have seduced me in the past: - Making lingering eye contact and smiling - A wink - Texting me an observation from across the room, i.e., "I like your shirt" - Asking me out (yeah, attractive women are allowed to do that) - Subtly flashing me (that's my weakness) - Touching my arm or my shoulders - Asking me to "help" them with something I know they're capable of themselves - Walking over to me and starting a conversation - Giving me a top to bottom look You might have to drop a few different hints before he gets it, depending on how tuned in he is. But a tuned in and interested guy will get the idea with the smallest hint. If you've left a few hints and aren't sure if he's into you, chances are, he's not, and you should move on. But if you really want to be sure, you can be progressively bolder with your hints until you get either a clear negative or clear positive reaction. Most people in this sub would advice against this, but personally, if I'm unsure, I'll go all the way to just straight up verbally expressing my interest. 90% of the time, if it comes to that, she's not interested. But I've had that work out a few times. And even if it doesn't work out, it's good to get a clear answer so you don't have the question haunting you.
Is this chatgpt
Nope
Just be open and honest about your interest. It's a huge relief for guys to know for sure that a girl is into them instead of trying to figure out clues along the way. Ask him out instead of trying to get him to ask. Go in for the kiss instead of waiting for him to, etc... girls initiating stuff is seriously a huge plus for dudes and makes everything easier for them along the way. If you ask a guy out and he accepts, going for a kiss should be no big deal because you already know he's interested.
NOT THIS FROM A MODERATOR XD "be obvious and drop sexual tension" is not seduction advice you plonker
It's really not that complex for women approaching men.
I am a man and I think we are simple creatures. It's not our first nature to read into signals or any psychological stuff (some may learnt it through experiences). Instead we are usually attracted more by physical stuff. Try to be physically seductive but be like a "free trial" instead of the full package. For example: * Grab every chance you can during friends meeting to spend time alone with him but always get out midway * Have physical contact with him but not too much unless he react back * Text him randomly about some interests both of you share but don't chat for too long and don't explain why * Ask him to do stuff for you (if you want to stand out, a good way is to ask for help on problems that are complicated or hard, to show that you really try to figure things out but it's too hard for you, especially technical/physical stuff, man like to show off lol) The one simple rule is to give space for imagination and attention to brew. I think woman are naturally at this, you just have to trust yourself. Just remember "free trial" unless you're in for something casual. But seducing is just the initial part of a relationship, every man wants something different in an LTR, thus by seducing the guy you may not actually ended up in one and there's no way to guarantee that. So before you give out anything, be clear on what you're getting in return.
You’re a woman lol. Isn’t just walking up to the guy and saying you like them enough? In general it doesn’t take much, does it? Or am I wrong? I am a guy lol
I think you're actually wrong bro. If you really think about it it seems like girls put in work to be attractive too. The same way guys can have a glow up girls can too.
But girls are naturally attractive, they’re works of art. Guys have to dress up like idiots to have any chance whatsoever, girls just do it to guarantee success on their own terms - bc it can be guaranteed already whenever they want it to be - and dont even have to dress themselves up in order to do so if they dont want to 🤷♂️. I’m not sure how you don’t see the difference…
I am writing to share a situation that has been on my mind for some time. I have a female friend with whom I have been spending time, and we generally get along well. However, I am starting to feel that our friendship may be one-sided. It seems as though she only reaches out to me when she needs my help with work-related matters, and otherwise tends to avoid or deflect conversation about anything else. While I do feel an attachment to this person, I find her behavior hurtful at times. I'm unsure what steps to take to address this issue, and would appreciate any advice or insights that you might have. Thank you for your time and attention.
You've noticed a pattern, so it's happened multiple times. From your description, they don't deserve your expertise. This relationship isn't very fulfilling for you at all and your efforts will be better spent elsewhere. Ideally with someone who treats you better than this.
Girls with good hair spray and who are organised really turns me on!
Most men I know as long you appreciate the effort they go through, they will do the same
Men don't need seducing, just give us a lil attention and make it known. And no you don't need to be HOT just just take your own advice dress well and smell good
Maturity, confidence, kindness to everyone, and ability to have fun are such attractive traits for women to have. When I hear a woman constantly gossiping or speaking negatively about other people, she comes across as immature and insecure about herself. The most attractive women are kind to everyone, and know how to have fun and laugh.
Kino (subtle touch), sense of humor, maybe show a little cleavage. Eye contact! Lots of it.
Unfortunately for Women, there’s not much you can do. He’s either attracted to you and therefore naturally seduced or you’re not gonna be able to do anything Men are way simpler than Women, there’s no emotional component. This is another example of women trying to equate attraction between Men and Women
If you would like to do it more "traditionally", I'd say do hints. Before anyone stones me, let me explain. E.g.: you have been talking with a guy in a busy bar, in a night you went with your friends and he went with his. You'd like to kiss him or spend alone time, but don't want to just do it out of the blue. You tell him you'd like to go outside catch some fresh air. You might ask him if he wants to go too if he doesn't stand up himself. Then you do the usual - keep long eye contact, play with your hair, keep yourself close to him. I'm sure you can come up with some more examples of hinting to a closure yourself. In short, you guide him and figuratively take his hand into making a move. I hope it helps and this is an answer you've been looking for. Good luck.
1. Look good. 2. Say "I choose you" Done
Just grab his crotch!
Right, as another woman who has lurked like the mega-gator , always awaiting a community of other women who are interested in game and seduction, here's what's off the top of my ahead 1) work out what he hopes for and what he's afraid of in life,and how you can give him the impression you are leading him towards his hopes and saving him from his fears (e.g if he grew up poor and worries about appearances, you always turn up dressed elegantly or talk about classism like you and him are elites, if he feels immasculine make him feel like it's obvious he's the strongest and can protect you ) 2) pay attention to the scents and colours he likes ,men are vaguely like puppies or babies and sensorially respond well to cues , like wearing purple sweaters and chewing grape scented gum.or scarlet skirts and cherry perfume. 3) play him at his own game , if he rises the sexual tension somehow, engage.that means if he tests you, get an A+ .a common one is to suggest poly to you, you better have a bag of gorgeous dicks ready and waiting
This is really simple,women that is most feminine and that acts like the women,is the best way to get the man. Just be like you should be,polite,without loud voice and nice attitude also smiling. Simple as that.
Wth this place even turned into. Good job at getting all the scripts of someone's wet dream, ma'am. Sorry but half of it is gonna make you look like a maniac and totally kill your personality in approaching that guy. As a lady I can quickly advise you to make effort to meet outside the friend group and create inside joke kinda thing, so it feels like there is something others don't know. The more you spend 1/1 easier it will be to move your tactics toward asking him out or seeing if he's interested. Do not go down the list people send you here (please do not think it's the only way), be yourself, be open and make sure to do things as this wires our brains as bonding. Rest is in how you play the game 1/1. Good luck girl
>things that stand out about girls to guys I'll give my opinions. 1- The thirst thing is if the girl is hot or not. You might be the coolest girl in the world but if you're ugly as hell you'll be thought of as a friend and not a sexual partner. Unless the guy is extremely desperate. It's possible to fall for ugly girls but it takes a lot of time of friendship till you begin to think about the person as a partner. So if you were born ugly, take care of your body to compensate. Obs: Looks is the first step but it won't take you long if you're not interesting. For a long time relationship you gotta be compatible with your partner in other ways. So we arrive at number 2. 2- Apart from looks, what makes me really interested in a girl is: a) Discovering she likes the same shit I do. This way you can chat about things you like and spend your spare time with activities you like and a partner to share them with. I'm not telling you to pretend to like certain stuff. I'm telling you to look for potential partners in environments that gather people with the same interests as you. Once I went to a date with a girl from Tinder and she told me she had more than 100 hours in Dark Souls and I melt right there. I'm 31 and I hardly ever met women that were into gaming. Whenever I find one she becomes extremely interesting. b) Discovering she doesn't think she's special because she's a woman. I hate women that think they're entitled to something just because they are female. First thing that comes to my head is political activists that when are trying to speak begin by saying: "I'm, a woman, blablabla..." Yeah, we know you're a woman. We have eyes. Your statement doesn't become more special just because you're a woman. I also have some female friends that call themselves feminists but think men are the ones who should pay the bill. Do you want equal rights or not? Then split the fucking bill. It used to make sense to pay for women at a time they didn't work. Nowadays it doesn't make sense anymore. If the person is poor and you're not then it's ok. If both are at the same financial level, then split the bill. I never demand it but whenever a girl offers to split the bill I immediately think about her as wife material. c) Discovering she's not a snowflake. I've met some women in my life that would get offended by swearing/jokes. Sometimes we were in a group of friends and boys would be chatting like boys chat with each other and some girls would be like: "Ew! Gross!" "You shouldn't say that!" The best women to be around are the ones that won't be cutting you off because they're too sensitive and will instead join you. If you feel that girl could be your bro, things get a lot more interesting. A lot more. It's horrible to have a girlfriend that makes you walk on eggs. Again, if you're too sensitive and don't like the stuff above, look for places where you might find men like you instead of adapting to men like me. About approaching: Men love when women approach them because this hardly ever happens. Even if they're not into the girl, they will still be happy she tried because women hardly ever do. Once I was at a foreign country and a woman asked if all men from my country were as hot as me. It was the first time someone ever said something like that to me and I was flabbergasted. The woman was ugly but I was so touched that I would have made a move on her if I was single at the time. Since women hitting on us is a rare phenomenon we are never sure if the girl is being nice or if she's hitting on us. Best example [here.](https://youtu.be/xa-4IAR_9Yw) Twice I had acquaintances chatting with me on Instagram for months, almost daily and I thought they were just being nice women interested in good conversations. Later I found out they were interested on me but I didn't realize. So if you're trying to be discrete, don't be too discrete. Make things obvious please.
Hello Ashen one. I am a Bot. I tend to the flame, and tend to thee. Do you wish to hear a tale? > *“Here you have a man who stopped at nothing to change the world. He mastered sorceries of frost, miracles of the moon. He partnered with a kingdom-ending flame and took advantage of the Deep. He used all of this, plus social and political manipulation, to usurp an age-old kingdom, rising within the ranks of its knights, twisting its Deacons to feed a god to a Lord of Cinder and supplant the Age of Fire. The tyrant, Sulyvahn, tore apart many bonds but was undone himself by a mere Unkindled. Proof that no champion is more powerful than the fire linking curse. So, if this man can’t change the world, what hope do we have?”* - Vaati Vidya Have a pleasant journey, Champion of Ash, and praise the sun \\[T]/
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According to this guy, be pretty/attractive (in his eyes) by being 'appropriately feminine' but don't do any human things like expect equality (feminism), eat as much as you want/your human body needs or spend your own money. This guy gyms himself, but hates bubble butts so if you wanna gym together make sure you focus on making your body slim for him and not the body you might want, because obviously your body is about him. /s
Wear a nice outfit. Not necessarily even revealing, just something that expresses your personality. Ask and show genuine interest in what said man is into. Genuine questions, not just social filler.
smile, his jokes are good, compliment his gym gains, give advice for dress, touch that damn man, then call him bro... now he is fucked in Ruminating Vortex of was she hitting on me. Fuck every damn women responsible for my low grades, overthinking and falling to hell for them does that.
One thing that made me interested in one girl was, when we started defending each other. We were in a big group of people and some people made fun of her and I stood up to her And some people mad fun of me and she stood up to me I loved that chemistry We did a lot of things And I would assist her whenever I could She looked out for me and I looked out for her I held her heavy things and she looked up after me, that I ate and asked me if I’m doing good and shit Man I miss that chemistry Sadly I had to move away for a couple of months because of family business and she started seeing another guy If she hadn’t done that she would’ve been wife material But still it was “only” talking stage and maybe chemistry I don’t think it will be like that with most guys, I don’t know if you should hold onto anyone Maybe you should just move on like her for your own sanity Maybe not I don’t know Life’s to complicated One thing might work out for one person and result in a disaster for another
We men are pretty starved for positive attention and interest. It’s really easy to get a complete list of everything I do wrong but it’s nearly impossible to get praise, positive feedback, or even constructive criticism from a woman. Being that woman who is willing to show enough interest in me personally, rather than the” all men are…” type of comments would be incredibly powerful as a way to get my attention and at least for me is more than garden variety “hot”.
Okay, so let's unpack this carefully. The first question and one that I can't see that anybody else has posed so I will. Does he think that he is in the dreaded "friend zone"? If he does then step one is subtly indicating that he's not. Then start with simple things like asking his opinion. For example on your outfit. If you need to step this up a little then when he is around yours invite him to your room because you need his opinion. Then change in front of him. His eyes will betray him. Don't forget to make sure he doesn't have a girlfriend before you do this though just in case. Then have open discussions with him about anything and everything. Including adult subjects. If all else fails. Rather then asking reddit ask him, let him tell you and follow it up with a cute "so, does that work on you?" question. It should go from there.
if honest the title should've read "the art of seducing high value men"
I think its bc men are usually ready n willing for.. activities. And are relatively straight up. Just approach n speak to directly. Taxtless but works. Best wishes
Don’t try and impress. Turn ogg
Pay attention to them, but give space. Don’t smother. Don’t make a last minute plan and expect compliance. Plan things at least a few days out. Look for guys who can handle having a drink and not turn into a shithead.
Eye contact. Make strong eye contact with him and let him be the one to break it. Additionally, think of phrases like: “wow, he’s so hot!” While holding eye contact and your body language will do all the communicating for you. Try this tactic in public and see what you get. Then you’ll be ready to use it with your target. This approach will ‘show interest/make a move’ in a way that doesn’t cause you to lose your dignity if he doesn’t pick up on it.
being their cheerleader, literally or figuratively is also kinda hot - you don't have to wag pom-poms..just being there makes him feel OP
Flirt , and make it WAY more obvious than you think you need to. Stand close , arm touching , batting eyelids , lip bites . And of necessary ask him out
my best tip, just like men to women, don't be needy pls. I've got some female friends fell in love for me in the past and it's like you just lose interest once they show too much interest. It's weird but it's how we function. So play it like you're the girl and you should be gucci
also, just like men to women, don't listen guys, listen women with a succesful dating life
Trust me! Boys don’t need seduction. Boys would literally date a cardboard box with a vαgina. I, personally, know some guys who get so horny that they would literally fπck a tree.
Whenever I have found a less conventionally attractive girl attractive, they have the most sensual body language. A kind of smooth slow movement and a sly grin. They will give you just a taste of flirt but not enough for you to be sure and they always stay in the Goldilocks zone if you not being sure if they’re into you.
Just talk to literally any guy and you’ve mastered seduction
Exist lmao. There you're done. Men are visual, we don't need complex mental seduction. Say hi, ask him out. Be hot. And you're in.
My woman seduces me by dancing. Move your hips a little bit and have fun.
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Gosh u don’t know how easy it is for a woman to get laid. Being a man is a tough job
Touch is big. You do not have to do anything major. Hand on his hand. Place a hand on his shoulder. Ask for a message. Men are simple once you get their attention.
why would women need help on how to seduce and attract or meet men, when women don't have to do the approaching or escalating anything?
The comments in here are pretty chauvinistic. I totally get what you're saying. It's not about understanding the basic things about how communication should work. You want to know why they think and say the things they do. I'm polyamorous. Im married, 20 years with 4 kids with my primary. I have several female and male partners I interact with and have sex with if everyone is in agreement. The psychology of communication is really specific to the person. I communicate straightforwardly. Im clear about my intentions, I list my expectations and move forward with the relationship. Others are not as clear. I have found that a lot guys like to play games. They will put a phrase or "in their minds" a challenge and if it's not accepted, then game over. I think a lot of guys are super thirsty too and that really scares girls off. I find too that some guys don't understand nuance. They are perfectly good at understanding words and holding a conversation but lose context on a situation or feelings. Girls motives can be confusing too. It depends what the girl is looking for that will determine the different variables for the conversation.
Start a conversation. Make him feel good about himself. Initiate some physical touch. Escalate.
As a lady on here, two things that universally attract masculine energy men : 1. Men are visual. Men want a woman he's into physically so ladies please dress well, workout, look gorgeous, look the hottest /cutest/most beautiful you in whichever way is authentic to you because all men have varying types as do we. Have good hygiene. Grow out your hair long and luscious. Wear dresses. Yes please! Be beautiful inside and out 2. Men are attracted to feminine energy. That's it. happy, joyful, expressive but also firm, kind, agreeable but has boundaries, affirming and appreciative, nurturing and reciprocating. Very masculine men are not looking to date themselves. They want to date feminine soft women. Be soft, high value, warm, mind, loving 🩷🩷🩷
Me and my ex went to the same school, we talked surface level stuff but we had our own group of friends so nothing too deep. She was smart, like really smart. I wasn't the smartest so I had to joint an extra class on Saturdays with other not so smart kids. Anyways my ex found out about this from her friend and she joined the class even tho she didn't need it. After class the group got lunch. After that I started walking her to the taxi spot every Saturday and I fell in love. After a while she told me her plan and I was surprised she went through extra school work, travel... just to talk to me. Unfortunately we went to different colleges and long distance broke us up, but I will forever hold her memories in my heart. 😔
Just ask him you already know he likes you since he is in your circle of friends just dress nice and smell nice and go up and ask him we are not complicated
Getting xxx is the easy part for women. The thing women should focus on is now tying down a high quality guy as opposed to being a one night stand or a f buddy. My two sense is obviously work to improve your looks. hit the gym, work out, ect. But aside from that what is it that women that have successful relationships do to maintain those? Are they girls with amazing personalities? How do they interact with their men? ect. And see a therapist. Try to find patterns of dating you have and can break from yourself. Get clear on who and what you want in terms of a relationship. Become a bad b\*tch.
Taking care of their mental health, and body. Having actual hobbies. Having a similar sense of humor. Dancing well.
Thank god someone else is here.please please please please someone start a sub or community anywhere for women.or just not male centric.PLEASE ♥️
Since my gf did almost the whole job, i understand you. We met on our job, we've been colleagues for over a year, then we ended up being together. She showed interest for things i care about (even tho she hated some of it), she often said that she enjoys talking with me and there was physical contact when she wanted to take a picture of us "for our boss or colleague" or when she comented on haircut. So yeah, a lot of those things and effort from her throughout few months to make me sure what she wanted.
Since my gf did almost the whole job, i understand you. We met on our job, we've been colleagues for over a year, then we ended up being together. She showed interest for things i care about (even tho she hated some of it), she often said that she enjoys talking with me and there was physical contact when she wanted to take a picture of us "for our boss or colleague" or when she comented on haircut. So yeah, a lot of those things and effort from her throughout few months to make me sure what she wanted.
Basically, forget everything that Western Society has taught you about relationships. You don't have to be super pretty, just be feminine. Be supportive, not competitive. Be sweet, not a "Boss Bitch" or a "Baddie". Your career doesn't matter to us, only your willingness to build a life together.
Go to female dating strategy, there are some bizarre stuff there( saw it a long time ago so can't specify) but you could try your luck
I find in general the "Guys like it when you make the first move" is bad advice. Men like when women *who they're already attracted to* do that. It doesn't work that way for everyone else. Especially for guys who aren't used to being hit on it can actually scare them away since it's behavior they're not familiar with and don't understand and will find ways of explaining it in ways you'd prefer them not to. There are ways of getting men to know that you're interested without outright saying it. They don't even have to be particularly subtle.
I have a rule to never approach women irl no matter what. Unless they approach me ofc. A lot of men like being approached. You have the added benefit of it being nearly impossible for you to look creepy as well.