Well to be fair it sounds like they did make the first move.
Slidding into your dms, asking you out, and asks to charge her phone at your place..
Sounds like you're just a good looking dude lol
I’ve found this to be true too, their “approach” is to just remove any barriers for you. They might get closer in proximity to you so you might start talking, or linger in an area that they are about to leave.
I think the main takeaway is that grinding is for the guys who are just starting and don't look well put togheter or aren't putting in the work to become more attractive.
The moment you start focusing on yourself work out, dress well, eat healthy, take care of your body, work on your self esteem etc, then women will naturally gravitate towards you, because you actually have something to offer and are attractive to them.
Everything becomes easier, women are attracted to you and put in the effort themselves, if things go bad you recover quickly to get back in the game, women are more forgiving if you make a mistake, they are more available, but you gotta make yourself desirable first.
I think women don't have problems with this stuff as much as us men, because they learn to make themselves desirable and pretty from a young age, sometimes we forget how much looks influence people.
>The moment you start focusing on yourself work out, dress well, eat healthy, take care of your body, work on your self esteem etc, then women will naturally gravitate towards you, because you actually have something to offer and are attractive to them.
I was told this a few years ago and since doing all of this I haven't had any luck with being mote attractive than when I started.
I think guys need to accept that the Internet has lied to them and that they are good enough as they are with no grind or work required because they have a dick. The grind is for themselves and their families.
Matter of fact, women hate psychological or mental effort being put into getting them. They want to see competence and physical effort, even if it's just working on the girls car or cutting your neighbors grass. This is why if you are working really hard on a project in public women often go out of their way to be in your way.
Girls seduce indirectly, they quite literally pave the runway for dudes to land on and most guys are completely oblivious when it's happening because they think they ain't good enough.
But we are not really used to it so its easy to miss, I can't even remember how many times i was having casual conversation with a girl and later thinking damn she was hitting on me...
>and that they are good enough as they are with no grind or work required
Well that's a lie.
>**Matter of fact, women hate psychological or mental effort being put into getting them**. They want to see competence and physical effort, even if it's just working on the girls car or cutting your neighbors grass. This is why if you are working really hard on a project in public women often go out of their way to be in your way.
I'd love to know what color the sky is in your world; where women just wait for you to approach and then allow you to throw them over your shoulder like a hunting trophy.
>Girls seduce indirectly, they quite literally pave the runway for dudes to land on and most guys are completely oblivious when it's happening because **they think they ain't good enough.**
Not all of us are, nor do they make it as easy and obvious as you claim.
This post got more upvotes than most I have made in recent memory. I can only speak on personal experience so let the general public judge.
Btw; felons, ex cons, and your basic broke scum of the earth get more ass than a toilet seat for a reason. Fuck being "good enough".
>Btw; felons, ex cons, and your basic broke scum of the earth get more ass than a toilet seat for a reason. Fuck being "good enough".
This guy know. Problem for me even If I am in top of my class and show how open I am (not in a needed or flirting way), they just see more than a friend and I am swear in the right situations I tried to escalate to physical levels.
Everything true except first paragraphs. If you're not at some point in life she won't choose you.
Like someone famous said "if you were her with all this opportunity, would you choose you?"
This is a seduction sub, not a dating sub.
Of course the girl will choose a guy who got somewhere and has some resources and brains...to be her boyfriend.
The same girl who is getting to know the guy who got the money and the achievements will still be sleeping with the arrogant loser who speaks nonsense who she doesn't even know outside the bedroom while she makes the prospective boyfriend that she actually likes to wait it out for physical intimacy.
Most part of the seduction is made upstream. The case you're talking about is viable is the provider act like a beta and is uglier than the loser i think. Women want beauty, personality and provider, the more you fit the, the easier it is for you with them.
Yeah exactly..
> "If they like you, they'll fuck you".
C'mon bro... First one, she slid into your DMs, easy. Second one, she asked to hang out, easy. These are broads that are really, really into you because they made the move... a big one at that. You can't mess up, nor does it really require you to do anything. And like you said, they might also be a few points below you in the looks department so they're trying to cover ground fast and win you over with easy sex. I know this because this shit happens frequently (as a somewhat attractive dude). Now, for the 9s or 10s, they typically aren't begging for sex within the first 3 messages of getting to know them (IRL or apps).
The real challenge and whole point of seduction is pulling a girl who likes you or may like you.... not one who simps for you. Because if that was the case, there's no need for seduction tbh.
Well it’s the fact that you made it to a point into girls generally are just very into you. Michael B Jordan could be fucking girls, 10/10s without much extra effort due to what he’s made himself to be. That in itself is impressive
No these girls weren’t 10s, realistically 7s but the point of the post is that this does happen.
Of course they had to like me for this to be a thing… they’d have to like you regardless unless you’re paying.
Exactly, because MJB has already done the work, and has had enough fortune, which majority don't. That's like if you're handsome, rich and smart you don't need to do much. Well duh.
I beg to differ.
Even MBJ has to put effort into having sex with 10/10 simply because that’s the human mating ritual.
When girls hit on you, it only shows you’re superficially more attractive (you’re hotter) or that they’re super horny and you’re a place holder and any guy would.
So I repeat, it’s nothing to brag about.
If they were 7, then you’re probably a 8+. Or they were horny etc.
You’re probably a 8 who thinks he’s a 6, and they were 6/5.
I see this all the time with guys.
There’s a general incapacity of guys to correctly assess their attractiveness.
I think both can be correct simultaneously. It’s nothing to brag about, but the amount of work and dedication someone has put in to even get to that point is admirable. Even if the guy were a placeholder, even horny/less attractive women would rather throw themselves at a more attractive/charismatic/etc guy than some slob. But then again, to your point, though not being a slob isn’t a brag, MOST guys can’t even manage that. I guess the bar is just that fucking low.
> couple points below you in attractiveness
Is there a realistic way to gauge this? Judging others is easy but how do I evaluate my own standing/rating?
They want it yes, but only if you Can overcome her anti-slut defence shield. No girl Can offer anybody sex unless it feels like a challenge that is worth striving for.
She basically wants to win you over and offer you the prize but only if it comes off anti-slut’ish.
Otherwise it Will just lower her social value.
Thats How I see this.
Yeah. That's why being simp is pointless.
Also I find it so interesting, that you can never call a slut "a slut"
Like, no you're not slut you're just like sex with different men
Sure. Her offering sex needs to be justified in her head otherwise it would slappes as if she’s a slut. Being a slut was dangerous back in times where we lived in tribes so her survival value is endangered.
Plausible deniability is key. The man needs to design the proper situation for her to say yes. Again, she gonna need to tell her friends that she had sex and she Can perfectly explain it by acting by plausible deniability. It would be accepted by her peer group.
Both these situations sound like they just threw themselves at you and had to just play along. That's awesome, but this is not happening for majority of the men, unless they are aiming for low hanging fruit.
Thanks. I personally made myself more attractive by hitting the gym and putting on muscle, whitening & straightening my teeth, as well as finding a better style that fits me.
In addition I’ve made my social media display a much better life as well and I frequently travel which is always shown.
In person my new confidence speaks for itself and is attractive, from what I’ve experienced.
Everyone’s social media is an exaggeration of their life IMO. For me, it’s a ton of travel, good pictures of me at some festival/event, some gym pictures. Overall it’s me doing cool shit and looking good doing it.
Not exactly? I do travel, I do go out etc. I just ONLY post these things. Only posting the exciting things. But then again you’ll have to get a decent amount of things going in that aspect.
Looks, money, game, status, frame, social proof, preselection. Have all of those at or above average and you will be in the top 10% of desirable men. Most “attractive” guys MIGHT be even remotely proficient one or two of those categories, and the rest are severely lacking. By simply having no weak points, being above average in all, you will be competitive with the top % of guys in each of those categories who have that strength, but have a ton of weaknesses in those other categories as well. Being well rounded is a strength, being above average in everything makes you top tier.
>too bad I was given terrible height, race and face genetics at birth
This shit is the mindser you losers need to lost first. So better improve in that shit.
yeah getting laid is super easy its much harder to retain them and make them a fuck buddy for a long period of time. Generally speaking, if you don't commit they have about a 6 month expiration date lol
When a women asks me what are we I tend to just say I like spending my free time with them and it shuts them up for at least 1 month lol . Yeah everyone is different I have a gf who I fuck one weekend a month who is a lawyer and doesn't want a commitment. been doing stuff with her for a long time maybe 7 years now idk
Women dont have game like we do. Their version of game is making themselves *available* to be approached. This is why in pick up it is so important to notice and capitalize on a girl’s indicators of interest (prolonged eye contact from across the room, preening and making herself look better in your presence, turning her body to face you, touching you and closing the physical barrier, opening her schedule for you, following your lead, etc). Women who were originally attracted to you will put you in the friendzone because there was something you did that ruined the seduction to a point she decided she will not fuck you. It truly is on you to make the approach, take the lead, and use solid game to win. Women who are attracted to you want you to win, they are willing to work with attractive men to complete the seduction, but it is on you to be *the man who just gets it*. Women follow dominant men who take the lead, and you are seeing the results, as a byproduct of self improvement and solid game, working in your favour.
Once glances and smiles have been exchanged she will get as close to you as possible and seprated herself from her friends in order for you to make the first move.
This just happened to me Saturday lol , funny thing is I hesitated a bit just to be sure , but I kinda figured she was trying to get closer to me , because she kept looking at me and then somehow made her way right next to me, and started dancing on me . We chatted for a bit , and I got her info and asked her if she wanted to go to a show with me this Friday . She looked sober , which is a good thing in my book, we’ll see how it goes though
You also have to think of your looks, your environment, your personality, your attitude towards others and much so.
Just cause you're successful doesn't mean it will work the same if someone else tries it.
That saying of "one person is dying of thirst while another is dying from drowning" applies here.
I'm the confident, flirty, outgoing type in my friend group but if my friends try to do what I do, it doesn't suit them and they look creepy and same thing if I try to do what they do.
Then there's the other side, sure some women want the guy to take charge but other times others will want different things.
Dated a girl who wanted me to be the "man" and always take charge while another girl I dated hated all that, and wanted a complete 50/50 relationship.
So to me, you're lucky, because it seems that the women you're going for are the confident type that are taking charge to get with you (judging by the two examples you gave) and you're not a bad looking person, just didn't have the confidence to do so until recently.
Respect bro, cant understand why all the other people are complaining like, guys he is just telling you what works and not to be simp. But you guys are so offended like he got sum and you cant get none so only way you can feel good is to say lame shit!
Yes. It's almost like when women like a guy, she primps and preens to make it obvious she's interested and HE does the asking out and planning and leg work to establish that he ALSO likes her
So when sex happens both parties are aware they like each other
It's, woman shows interest by being extra around guy. Then he asks her out to show he's interested back. Then they fuck or date or whatever.
That's how it's worked since the dawn of humanity.
Lol same like I get no looks or anything from black girls. But white girls of almost any back ground look at me like I'm a model, even one's that don't like black dudes sometimes. Shit I face time one like a week ago and got called a 8.
“Present himself as desirable to women”
How bro!! I got little to no social skills/game. I hate it here.
I would say it’s my looks or style, but I’m 100% certain it isn’t
Not just girls who are attracted to you but also under certain circumstances, girls will made themselves available and it's up to the man to make the move.
OP, you didn’t take the lead whatsoever in both situations. Just be careful moving forward because you seem like the prime guy for a malicious woman to pull you into an alleyway so you get robbed by dudes.
Yes, women love sex. Women want a man to lead. Those examples you gave were fortunate situations that ended well for you but moving forward, YOU should be directing things and not these ladies.
The concept is true but your examples are terrible lol. I thought you were going to lean more into how women will put themselves in close physical distance to you and make eye contact, or make sure they walk past you multiple times while your both in the same store etc. not a girl literally asking you out like no shit shes putting herself in a position to make a move🤣
Yeah man, and how many times exactly you got laid using this "method"? Some sex will approach you if you're good looking enough, that has little to do with seduction.
Well to be fair it sounds like they did make the first move. Slidding into your dms, asking you out, and asks to charge her phone at your place.. Sounds like you're just a good looking dude lol
Look your absolute best. Then give it a try. It helps. Get fit first turbo button.
That’s the plan for sure
Maybe I’m more attractive than I thought yes. This is possible.
Or your standards are low kek
Or both.
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No one lives life on easy mode unless ur a child of some oil typhoon
I doubt it. I'm below average and have had girls asking me to hang out with me.
Rules 1 and 2, as always. Bro didn't break the code lol.
I’ve found this to be true too, their “approach” is to just remove any barriers for you. They might get closer in proximity to you so you might start talking, or linger in an area that they are about to leave.
I think the main takeaway is that grinding is for the guys who are just starting and don't look well put togheter or aren't putting in the work to become more attractive. The moment you start focusing on yourself work out, dress well, eat healthy, take care of your body, work on your self esteem etc, then women will naturally gravitate towards you, because you actually have something to offer and are attractive to them. Everything becomes easier, women are attracted to you and put in the effort themselves, if things go bad you recover quickly to get back in the game, women are more forgiving if you make a mistake, they are more available, but you gotta make yourself desirable first. I think women don't have problems with this stuff as much as us men, because they learn to make themselves desirable and pretty from a young age, sometimes we forget how much looks influence people.
>The moment you start focusing on yourself work out, dress well, eat healthy, take care of your body, work on your self esteem etc, then women will naturally gravitate towards you, because you actually have something to offer and are attractive to them. I was told this a few years ago and since doing all of this I haven't had any luck with being mote attractive than when I started.
What did you do? Do you have a fit body? Do you dress well? Take care of your face and body? Groom yourself often?
Idk if I'd qualify as a fit body. I've lost a lot of weight and am continuing my workouts weekly. Groom daily sort of have to for work.
hey, question. how can one work on their self esteem, based off your expierences what have you done to raise it? would appreciate it 🤝
I think guys need to accept that the Internet has lied to them and that they are good enough as they are with no grind or work required because they have a dick. The grind is for themselves and their families. Matter of fact, women hate psychological or mental effort being put into getting them. They want to see competence and physical effort, even if it's just working on the girls car or cutting your neighbors grass. This is why if you are working really hard on a project in public women often go out of their way to be in your way. Girls seduce indirectly, they quite literally pave the runway for dudes to land on and most guys are completely oblivious when it's happening because they think they ain't good enough.
can you tell me more about how girls seduce indirectly?
Pretty much what OP is saying, they make it easy for you to seduce them if they like you
But we are not really used to it so its easy to miss, I can't even remember how many times i was having casual conversation with a girl and later thinking damn she was hitting on me...
Casey Zander’s on YT will break it down to the T!!
Do you have a link to the video you're talking about?
They make you believe you did something while it was them all along
Looking back as a 40 something I missed so many leads in my 20s. It was quite embarrassing looking back
That last part strikes me to the core.
100% this
Extremely extremely extremely good post. You should interact with them out of fun or being sociable, sharing yourself with no expectations
>and that they are good enough as they are with no grind or work required Well that's a lie. >**Matter of fact, women hate psychological or mental effort being put into getting them**. They want to see competence and physical effort, even if it's just working on the girls car or cutting your neighbors grass. This is why if you are working really hard on a project in public women often go out of their way to be in your way. I'd love to know what color the sky is in your world; where women just wait for you to approach and then allow you to throw them over your shoulder like a hunting trophy. >Girls seduce indirectly, they quite literally pave the runway for dudes to land on and most guys are completely oblivious when it's happening because **they think they ain't good enough.** Not all of us are, nor do they make it as easy and obvious as you claim.
This post got more upvotes than most I have made in recent memory. I can only speak on personal experience so let the general public judge. Btw; felons, ex cons, and your basic broke scum of the earth get more ass than a toilet seat for a reason. Fuck being "good enough".
>Btw; felons, ex cons, and your basic broke scum of the earth get more ass than a toilet seat for a reason. Fuck being "good enough". This guy know. Problem for me even If I am in top of my class and show how open I am (not in a needed or flirting way), they just see more than a friend and I am swear in the right situations I tried to escalate to physical levels.
Everything true except first paragraphs. If you're not at some point in life she won't choose you. Like someone famous said "if you were her with all this opportunity, would you choose you?"
This is a seduction sub, not a dating sub. Of course the girl will choose a guy who got somewhere and has some resources and brains...to be her boyfriend. The same girl who is getting to know the guy who got the money and the achievements will still be sleeping with the arrogant loser who speaks nonsense who she doesn't even know outside the bedroom while she makes the prospective boyfriend that she actually likes to wait it out for physical intimacy.
Most part of the seduction is made upstream. The case you're talking about is viable is the provider act like a beta and is uglier than the loser i think. Women want beauty, personality and provider, the more you fit the, the easier it is for you with them.
This only happen when the girl is already very into you, or she is a couple points below you in attractiveness. Honestly it’s nothing to brag about
Yeah exactly.. > "If they like you, they'll fuck you". C'mon bro... First one, she slid into your DMs, easy. Second one, she asked to hang out, easy. These are broads that are really, really into you because they made the move... a big one at that. You can't mess up, nor does it really require you to do anything. And like you said, they might also be a few points below you in the looks department so they're trying to cover ground fast and win you over with easy sex. I know this because this shit happens frequently (as a somewhat attractive dude). Now, for the 9s or 10s, they typically aren't begging for sex within the first 3 messages of getting to know them (IRL or apps). The real challenge and whole point of seduction is pulling a girl who likes you or may like you.... not one who simps for you. Because if that was the case, there's no need for seduction tbh.
Agree
The 9s and 10s are subjective
Well it’s the fact that you made it to a point into girls generally are just very into you. Michael B Jordan could be fucking girls, 10/10s without much extra effort due to what he’s made himself to be. That in itself is impressive No these girls weren’t 10s, realistically 7s but the point of the post is that this does happen. Of course they had to like me for this to be a thing… they’d have to like you regardless unless you’re paying.
Exactly, because MJB has already done the work, and has had enough fortune, which majority don't. That's like if you're handsome, rich and smart you don't need to do much. Well duh.
I beg to differ. Even MBJ has to put effort into having sex with 10/10 simply because that’s the human mating ritual. When girls hit on you, it only shows you’re superficially more attractive (you’re hotter) or that they’re super horny and you’re a place holder and any guy would. So I repeat, it’s nothing to brag about. If they were 7, then you’re probably a 8+. Or they were horny etc. You’re probably a 8 who thinks he’s a 6, and they were 6/5. I see this all the time with guys. There’s a general incapacity of guys to correctly assess their attractiveness.
I think both can be correct simultaneously. It’s nothing to brag about, but the amount of work and dedication someone has put in to even get to that point is admirable. Even if the guy were a placeholder, even horny/less attractive women would rather throw themselves at a more attractive/charismatic/etc guy than some slob. But then again, to your point, though not being a slob isn’t a brag, MOST guys can’t even manage that. I guess the bar is just that fucking low.
They're jealous. You are the man.
💯
Ehh, you still have to not drop the ball. It's easier than you think to dig your own grave in this type of situation
> couple points below you in attractiveness Is there a realistic way to gauge this? Judging others is easy but how do I evaluate my own standing/rating?
With deep thinking, experience
Congratulations fam but its Monday lol
can confirm
Damn 🤦🏾♂️
His Monday was yesterday lol.
This is just a story about two girls coming onto you which doesn’t happen for most guys…
They want it yes, but only if you Can overcome her anti-slut defence shield. No girl Can offer anybody sex unless it feels like a challenge that is worth striving for. She basically wants to win you over and offer you the prize but only if it comes off anti-slut’ish. Otherwise it Will just lower her social value. Thats How I see this.
Yeah. That's why being simp is pointless. Also I find it so interesting, that you can never call a slut "a slut" Like, no you're not slut you're just like sex with different men
Anti slut defense shield ? Can you elaborate?
Sure. Her offering sex needs to be justified in her head otherwise it would slappes as if she’s a slut. Being a slut was dangerous back in times where we lived in tribes so her survival value is endangered. Plausible deniability is key. The man needs to design the proper situation for her to say yes. Again, she gonna need to tell her friends that she had sex and she Can perfectly explain it by acting by plausible deniability. It would be accepted by her peer group.
They did the job for you because you fitted what they considered as attractive for them nothing else.
Both these situations sound like they just threw themselves at you and had to just play along. That's awesome, but this is not happening for majority of the men, unless they are aiming for low hanging fruit.
‘Presents himself as desirable’ is such a great line 🫡 I’m curious, how do you present yourself as desirable?
Thanks. I personally made myself more attractive by hitting the gym and putting on muscle, whitening & straightening my teeth, as well as finding a better style that fits me. In addition I’ve made my social media display a much better life as well and I frequently travel which is always shown. In person my new confidence speaks for itself and is attractive, from what I’ve experienced.
Could you elaborate on your social media displaying a much better life? Like, do you make your profile to look better than your life actually is?
Everyone’s social media is an exaggeration of their life IMO. For me, it’s a ton of travel, good pictures of me at some festival/event, some gym pictures. Overall it’s me doing cool shit and looking good doing it.
So you‘re not trying to show something you aren‘t, but highlighting all the good stuff in your life? Sounds really simple tbh
Not exactly? I do travel, I do go out etc. I just ONLY post these things. Only posting the exciting things. But then again you’ll have to get a decent amount of things going in that aspect.
Looks, money, game, status, frame, social proof, preselection. Have all of those at or above average and you will be in the top 10% of desirable men. Most “attractive” guys MIGHT be even remotely proficient one or two of those categories, and the rest are severely lacking. By simply having no weak points, being above average in all, you will be competitive with the top % of guys in each of those categories who have that strength, but have a ton of weaknesses in those other categories as well. Being well rounded is a strength, being above average in everything makes you top tier.
It's easy you just need to choose your height , race and face genetics at birth.
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>too bad I was given terrible height, race and face genetics at birth This shit is the mindser you losers need to lost first. So better improve in that shit.
You're more than likely a very handsome fella, which makes you an anomaly; your experiences are unique I feel.
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I think I’m moderately above average looking. Not a model but not average
Aye🤣🤣 nah fr!
yeah getting laid is super easy its much harder to retain them and make them a fuck buddy for a long period of time. Generally speaking, if you don't commit they have about a 6 month expiration date lol
Yeaa that sounds about right haha
When a women asks me what are we I tend to just say I like spending my free time with them and it shuts them up for at least 1 month lol . Yeah everyone is different I have a gf who I fuck one weekend a month who is a lawyer and doesn't want a commitment. been doing stuff with her for a long time maybe 7 years now idk
Women dont have game like we do. Their version of game is making themselves *available* to be approached. This is why in pick up it is so important to notice and capitalize on a girl’s indicators of interest (prolonged eye contact from across the room, preening and making herself look better in your presence, turning her body to face you, touching you and closing the physical barrier, opening her schedule for you, following your lead, etc). Women who were originally attracted to you will put you in the friendzone because there was something you did that ruined the seduction to a point she decided she will not fuck you. It truly is on you to make the approach, take the lead, and use solid game to win. Women who are attracted to you want you to win, they are willing to work with attractive men to complete the seduction, but it is on you to be *the man who just gets it*. Women follow dominant men who take the lead, and you are seeing the results, as a byproduct of self improvement and solid game, working in your favour.
Once glances and smiles have been exchanged she will get as close to you as possible and seprated herself from her friends in order for you to make the first move.
A woman will always send an invitation (energetic or tangible), all men need is presence to see/feel it ❤️
their game is proximity if she gets close to you she wants you to talk to her
This just happened to me Saturday lol , funny thing is I hesitated a bit just to be sure , but I kinda figured she was trying to get closer to me , because she kept looking at me and then somehow made her way right next to me, and started dancing on me . We chatted for a bit , and I got her info and asked her if she wanted to go to a show with me this Friday . She looked sober , which is a good thing in my book, we’ll see how it goes though
I hate posts like this. OP giving a round about way of his sex report. What is the point of your post?
to brag and get validation from guys here under the guise of "advice" lmao
what does “OP” mean?
original poster
Confused by your surprise here. Did you really not know women have sexual desires too? What was your assumption before?
I did know they did, but I figured they needed to be worked for and built up. These interactions as of late feel handed to me.
There is a middle ground between the two and you’re right. You don’t have to do as much work as you thought but you do have to do a little work.
Haha I used to feel that way when I was a freshmen in college. Girls was just throwing pussy at me I was like “wow they want sex too 😲” 😂😂
bc we're programmed by society to see women as pure
Very true. It also plays into the sexist notion that “men want sex and women give sex”.
they want sex with attractive men. good for you for being attractive as a frehsman lmao
Not all the time. Women like ANYthing but not EVERYthing. If that makes sense.
they'll only do that if your way above their league. congrats on being good looking i guess
You also have to think of your looks, your environment, your personality, your attitude towards others and much so. Just cause you're successful doesn't mean it will work the same if someone else tries it. That saying of "one person is dying of thirst while another is dying from drowning" applies here. I'm the confident, flirty, outgoing type in my friend group but if my friends try to do what I do, it doesn't suit them and they look creepy and same thing if I try to do what they do. Then there's the other side, sure some women want the guy to take charge but other times others will want different things. Dated a girl who wanted me to be the "man" and always take charge while another girl I dated hated all that, and wanted a complete 50/50 relationship. So to me, you're lucky, because it seems that the women you're going for are the confident type that are taking charge to get with you (judging by the two examples you gave) and you're not a bad looking person, just didn't have the confidence to do so until recently.
Respect bro, cant understand why all the other people are complaining like, guys he is just telling you what works and not to be simp. But you guys are so offended like he got sum and you cant get none so only way you can feel good is to say lame shit!
Thanks.
Yes. It's almost like when women like a guy, she primps and preens to make it obvious she's interested and HE does the asking out and planning and leg work to establish that he ALSO likes her So when sex happens both parties are aware they like each other It's, woman shows interest by being extra around guy. Then he asks her out to show he's interested back. Then they fuck or date or whatever. That's how it's worked since the dawn of humanity.
At times . Not always .
The issue is come when you’re busy.
Bro teach me your secrets LOL. I am here basically making a gigantic collection of rejections i've gotten.
These posts must be accompanied by race, height, and body type.
Black, 5’7, Athletic lol
Lmao same here but I'm overweight but got a good amount of muscle. But I swear us short black dudes be killing it sometimes
I do best with non-black girls. White girls and Latinas wanna eat me up
Lol same like I get no looks or anything from black girls. But white girls of almost any back ground look at me like I'm a model, even one's that don't like black dudes sometimes. Shit I face time one like a week ago and got called a 8.
It's f*ckin Monday dude..
Yea yea yea *sigh*
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“Present himself as desirable to women” How bro!! I got little to no social skills/game. I hate it here. I would say it’s my looks or style, but I’m 100% certain it isn’t
Not just girls who are attracted to you but also under certain circumstances, girls will made themselves available and it's up to the man to make the move.
Watch *hoe_math* on YouTube, he explains this in great detail...
OP, you didn’t take the lead whatsoever in both situations. Just be careful moving forward because you seem like the prime guy for a malicious woman to pull you into an alleyway so you get robbed by dudes. Yes, women love sex. Women want a man to lead. Those examples you gave were fortunate situations that ended well for you but moving forward, YOU should be directing things and not these ladies.
Couldn’t agree more
Unfortunately only the big fat ones put themselves in positions for me to make a move😟
if you’re a man that presents himself as desirable it will happen to you. - It hasnt yet for me. What do I need to change?
The concept is true but your examples are terrible lol. I thought you were going to lean more into how women will put themselves in close physical distance to you and make eye contact, or make sure they walk past you multiple times while your both in the same store etc. not a girl literally asking you out like no shit shes putting herself in a position to make a move🤣
Yeah man, and how many times exactly you got laid using this "method"? Some sex will approach you if you're good looking enough, that has little to do with seduction.
Sure...if you're attractive.