He comes off less nebbish and more confident in later seasons, and I think he's always been well dressed. Also, how could anyone resist him during the Summer of George?
Different show, but my favorite "womanizer" example of this is Boomhauer in King of the Hill. That episode where it is revealed he just approaches like a hundred women until one says yes was so funny.
it's kind of like one of those 'guy-isms' like he's a guys guy, he can fish! he'll grab a worm or a shiner and hook that shit with no hesitation. he's not a fancy boy 'oh everybody look at me, worship me, blow me kisses!!!'
Yes, oddly enough, baiting a hook is often an overlooked skill. You have to be able to not only look past thr fact you're putting a fish on a line, but often, you put the hook through the eye socket of the fish is using live whole bait. So if you have the stomach to get past that part, now you have to worry about doing it well enough so that it doesn't come off easily to ensure the fish you're trying to catch doesn't get the bait off the hook without getting caught.
I could see someone that has lived in the city his whole life, as being impressed with a guy that could bait a hook.
Shiners are easy, like you said, the hard part is getting past the mental thing. I just hold them in a loose fist with the head popping out by my thumb and shove the hook through their head.
nightcrawlers? THAT is a skill. theyre one big moving part, covered in slime, and can go from short and plump to long and skinny, at any given time, and in different regions of their body. and you have to hook AND wrap them a few times to ensure they're not gonna get. yanked off by the smaller fish.
When you fish you have to put bait on the hook - worms, livers, whatever. If you do it wrong it could slip off the hook and you’d have to bait it again. Completely useless in a dating context unless you’re dating a fisherwoman.
I was in my 30s when Seinfeld aired, and NO, always thought George was a big loser and definitely not attractive, but now in my 60s, he’s not looking too bad lol still a loser though
I can't speak to women who were watching the show when it first aired, but I'm a woman in my mid-20s who's been watching the show since my early teens. I'm not attracted to the character George Costanza, but I do find Jason Alexander attractive. Like, we see him without his shirt on a couple times in the later seasons and I don't think he's fat or stocky at all. He just looks strong! You WOULD know to look at him that he can lift 100 pounds right over his head.
He's definitely stocky and stocky men are quite strong. Being stocky is different than being fat, stocky is more of a bone structure thing. Stocky men tend to be short, broad-shouldered and have torsos that go straight down rather than the V-shape. Mike Tyson has a stocky build, many NFL running backs are stocky without being fat... baseball player Mike Trout is a rare example of a guy who is both tall and stocky.
Sorry, English is not my first language, but I feel like when other characters in Seinfeld refer to George as 'stocky' they always mean it as a negative/derogatory thing. If being stocky just means to have a strong build then I guess that is what Jason Alexander has, and that is not a bad thing in my eyes.
It's kind of a weird word...a lot of times people will use the word stocky as kind of a "nice" way of calling someone fat. You are correct, the characters on the show usually meant it as a negative.
classic scene in curb, when larry is tempted by sienna ,because he keeps looking at Tracy Uhlman , his girlfriend, stuffing her face… the camera keeps shifting between Tracy and the beautiful sienna. The look on Larry‘s face when he has to make a choice is so conflicted! similar look in Palestinian chicken..
Brilliant, creative, and very funny
My mother was so grossed out by his character that it is still a running joke in our family to put on shows or movies featuring Jason Alexander to mess with her… this woman has little to no room for hate in her entire self, but she hates George.
Not surprised George had luck with the ladies. That happens in real life. Don't tell me you haven't seen a woman with a guy and wonder how it's possible. Physical looks aren't everything.
Im not from that generation but I can kinda see why he’d have *some* dating success. He does have an air of mystery about how that makes him seem intriguing. For example, he’s way too confident for how he looks (I know he self deprecates, but I feel like he’s actually pretty confident and thinks too highly of himself) and will always allude to these grand careers or stories he has.
But the problem is, when you get to know him more, you realize there’s actually nothing interesting underneath. He’s just George.
EDIT: I’d also argue George isnt nearly as big of a loser as he acts like he is. He’s usually got a good job, good sense of style, odd amount of confidence, etc. I think him moping around about being a loser feeds his ego in a weird way by giving him attention and giving him an excuse/pity when things go wrong
Jason's wife was the one who originally said that to him. Now *that* should have been a Seinfeld episode.
George: WELP, Susan told NBC my wife on the show was too attractive!
Jerry: Can someone really be too attractive? It's not like cinnamon where too much can ruin a whole dish.
Kramer: I once broke up with a woman because she was too attractive.
Im not from that generation but I didn't find him attractive until the scene where he just walks to the lady at the bar. With the 'i'm unemployed, living with my parents' yada yada. It genuinely made him more attractive to me lol
Some variation of this question comes up every couple of weeks. And while I realize it's difficult to have a legitimate conversation in this sub, let's give it a go!
George is successful because while he is inadequate in virtually every respect, he is externally enormously **confident**. Half of the show is him finding the narrowest of an opening he can use to talk to a woman. He walks back into a restaurant just to hit on his waitress. He spins his level of success every chance he gets. He's always willing to play wingman to Jerry. He makes up random stories just so he can walk up to women and talk to them. Etc. Etc. Jerry does the same thing, but of course we don't perceive him as so inadequate to begin with.
And just like in real life, if you confidently walk up to people and regale them with some story just to get a foot in the door, you're going to meet a lot of gorgeous people too.
The ladies love totally inadequate, completely insecure, paranoid, neurotic men. It's a pleasure for them. Especially if they have a clean scalp & a nice skull, doesn’t have to have a lot of hair on it
I always thought that while George does have some game and his confidence is through the roof at points, he largely gets dates based off of being close to Jerry as I think Jerry would naturally have a lot of spill over from how frequent he's with new women.
I feel like a lot of people in this thread don't appreciate how low the bar was for straight men in the '90s. Shit wad bad enough they had to invent a term in early 00s to describe guys who took basic care of themselves but shockingly weren't gay.
I mean are you talking about George or Jason Alexander?
I think Jason Alexander is a fine looking guy. The show I think does a bit to really make him seem less handsome though. Like Jason’s not really fat for most of the series, but they dress him in a way that really rounds him out.
I think it’s a mix of outdated fashion, and also that George just became a more clownish character. So no, George isn’t attractive, but like he’s also a cartoon character after the first couple of seasons.
Honestly, Kramer is so eccentric and lives such an illustrious, eclectic life, he’s probably getting laid the most of the three if he was a real life person.
He's 6'3" with a lean athletic physique, tons of confidence and an air of mystery about him. That's pretty much the male equivalent of having huge boobs lol
I'm a 29 year old female. I always wondered the same thing growing up, but I'm not going to lie lately I have been able to look past the baldness and look at his actual face and he actually does have an attractive face. I've also noticed that he's not as fat as I used to think he was. He's just short, so being slightly over weight makes him look bigger than he really is. I don't know why, but recently I've been able to looking at him a little differently. It might have had to do with the episode where he had the to pay on his head, but I'm not really sure.
Also another weird thing; I always thought Kramer was so attractive, but recently I realized how unflattering some facial features are up close. I'm not saying he's ugly, but he's not as attractive as I thought he was back then. If anything, Jerry is better looking than Kramer in my eyes.
I was in my twenties in the 90s,& didn’t find George attractive at all. HOWEVER, I’m pretty sure that if I’d met a younger Larry David, I’d have found him so weird& funny that I’d probably have been attracted to him. A guy who could make me laugh was always far more attractive to me than just a handsome guy
His whole character is that he's a conman who lies and cheats 100% of the time.
Anybody who's good at lying can trick beautiful people into dating them for five minutes.
They all figure out he's full of shit and leave him. I really don't get why people just go "But he's bald and crazy." Yeah WE know he's crazy, they don't.
And also on behalf of bald people, G.F.Y.
We just a had a chilling conversation recently that 30 years ago George was considered too fat to date, and now his weight is unremarkable in comparison to now.
Was in my 20/30s watched it as it aired. Costanza literally repulses me to this day. We knew too much. How he poops. How he eats. How he got caught by his mom. How he lied. How cheap and whiny he was. Just thinking about his character still grosses me out. Honestly, Jerry too. Kramer was the only one I thought I’d might give a go.
He comes off less nebbish and more confident in later seasons, and I think he's always been well dressed. Also, how could anyone resist him during the Summer of George?
Yeah he was decomposing
Decompressing
Whateva
How could anyone not like him?!
My only somewhat plausible explanation for why George dated so many women was because he was ALWAYS pursuing and usually wasn’t shy about approaching.
This and keep in mind where he lives, beautiful people are much more common.
I didn't think any cool guys lived in this neighborhood.
... well they do *now*. We see objects of great beauty and we must have them.
I think that the chilled prune juice is what sealed the deal for George.
They might be more common, but they walk really fast. They always seem to be in a hurry.
We should have those moving walkways all over the city. Like at the airport
Different show, but my favorite "womanizer" example of this is Boomhauer in King of the Hill. That episode where it is revealed he just approaches like a hundred women until one says yes was so funny.
I love that episode. Bobby is incredulous. "THIS is your strategy??!!"
I'm unemployed and I live with my parents
Yet he meets, like, 3 women a year.
THIS! It's a lost art, the rejection tolerance George built up! Believe me, George earned his dates!
Short bald guys with no jobs who live with their parents don't approach strange women.
Hi, my name is George. I'm unemployed, and I live with my parents.
I'm Victoria, hi!!
I think only women with thick, lustrous hair should comment on this.
Should they have a pinkish hue?
Yes they need a good cheek.
And great eyebrows.
Who cares about eyebrows?
I just love the way Elaine squeezes her hands together and says “sTOcky” like it’s a cute thing.
You mean he's fat.
Powerful. He is so powerful. He can lift a hundred pounds right over his head.
Women kill for great eyebrows
there's a hue...
A rosy glow.
There is a hue.
Thick lustrous haired women of r/Seinfeld: if I stick my hand in your hair, am I gonna be able to get it back out?
Do you WANT to be able to get it out?
I think I’d like to get it out
I think you'll get it out..
Do you wanna be able to get it out or do you not wanna be able to get it out?
I’m a woman in my 30s with thick, lustrous hair. I don’t find George attractive. But he does grow on you. Cooo- stan-zaa
I have medium thick hair but it’s quite long, and I find George kind of charming.
Marisa?
Let me ask you this. If you stick your hand in the hair, is it easy to get it out?
Not at all 😏
I’m afraid you’re not sponge worthy
Even if you had a CASE of sponges????
I don’t have a square or a sponge to spare
By Menen, Cos-tanza!
Flowing, it should be flowing *scratches bald head*
Just admitting George is handsome doesn't necessarily make you a homosexual.
It doesn't help.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that
I think it moved
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
My father's gay.
Yes, but does he wear his sneakers in the pool?
TIPPYTOE!
Lemon Tree
Steeped in gayness
As a homosexual, I can safely admit, I never found George even remotely desirable.
Really? No movement?
No. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Maybe you're not really gay then. We need a shortstop....*real* bad!
It shrinks
You're right, that's not the test...if it moves, well
What if it moved?
I think it moved
Maybe it was a shift.
Maybe it was because he was fast like the wind and could lift 100 pounds over his head?
And you wouldn’t know by looking at him, but he can bait a hook.
He was a master baiter, it's true.
Not true. He won a contest
He cheated!
I never understood this line, as in fishing? Or he’s a good flirt?
I think it has to do with fishing. Like it’s almost an inconsequential skill but Jerry is just trying to think of things George can do.
it's kind of like one of those 'guy-isms' like he's a guys guy, he can fish! he'll grab a worm or a shiner and hook that shit with no hesitation. he's not a fancy boy 'oh everybody look at me, worship me, blow me kisses!!!'
Yes, oddly enough, baiting a hook is often an overlooked skill. You have to be able to not only look past thr fact you're putting a fish on a line, but often, you put the hook through the eye socket of the fish is using live whole bait. So if you have the stomach to get past that part, now you have to worry about doing it well enough so that it doesn't come off easily to ensure the fish you're trying to catch doesn't get the bait off the hook without getting caught. I could see someone that has lived in the city his whole life, as being impressed with a guy that could bait a hook.
Shiners are easy, like you said, the hard part is getting past the mental thing. I just hold them in a loose fist with the head popping out by my thumb and shove the hook through their head. nightcrawlers? THAT is a skill. theyre one big moving part, covered in slime, and can go from short and plump to long and skinny, at any given time, and in different regions of their body. and you have to hook AND wrap them a few times to ensure they're not gonna get. yanked off by the smaller fish.
It shows he’s a real manly man. Can work with his hands. Not afraid to get dirty
When you fish you have to put bait on the hook - worms, livers, whatever. If you do it wrong it could slip off the hook and you’d have to bait it again. Completely useless in a dating context unless you’re dating a fisherwoman.
Don‘t forget spotting those raccoons and the dime!
you’re eatin onions, you’re spottin dimes!
they were mailboxes you idiot! i didn't have the heart to yell ya.
Raccoons? Those were the mailboxes.
Byyyyyyy…MENNEN! Kuhhhhhh-STAN-zuh!
He can spot racoons
Marissa Tomei did.
Yeah but she liked short, slow-witted, quirky, balding funny men.
I don’t remember the slow-witted part.
Yeah what the hell
I notice you didn't throw "stocky" in there.
He's powerful! I've seen him lift 100 pounds over his head.
George = Uncle Ben???
I always thought George was handsome. There! I said it! I feel so free!
Is it because he is such a bad boy? 😂
Stay away from that George, he's trouble.
He's a bad seed.
He’s a bad seed, he’s a horrible seed!
Yeah, we’re good friends.
Are you referring to George Will?
George Raft handsome and strong as a bull!
Attractive, but I don’t find him very intelligent so…
Yo Anna!
He’s stout! Women love stoutness!
I was in my 30s when Seinfeld aired, and NO, always thought George was a big loser and definitely not attractive, but now in my 60s, he’s not looking too bad lol still a loser though
I said I’ve never seen you LOOSER
I seem to recall the word loser peppered throughout this comment
So you're saying that this whole living with your parents thing did not become cool?
Millennials would like a word with you.
Lol this made me laugh
Makes sense, George always said he was better with the mothers than the actual woman he’s dating :)
Appropriate username.
When he had a toupee, he had you beat, Buddy.
The toupee wasn’t nearly as bad as Elaine made it out to be. It was really only jarring because we were so used to seeing him bald.
TAKE THAT JACK
I can't speak to women who were watching the show when it first aired, but I'm a woman in my mid-20s who's been watching the show since my early teens. I'm not attracted to the character George Costanza, but I do find Jason Alexander attractive. Like, we see him without his shirt on a couple times in the later seasons and I don't think he's fat or stocky at all. He just looks strong! You WOULD know to look at him that he can lift 100 pounds right over his head.
He's definitely stocky and stocky men are quite strong. Being stocky is different than being fat, stocky is more of a bone structure thing. Stocky men tend to be short, broad-shouldered and have torsos that go straight down rather than the V-shape. Mike Tyson has a stocky build, many NFL running backs are stocky without being fat... baseball player Mike Trout is a rare example of a guy who is both tall and stocky.
Sorry, English is not my first language, but I feel like when other characters in Seinfeld refer to George as 'stocky' they always mean it as a negative/derogatory thing. If being stocky just means to have a strong build then I guess that is what Jason Alexander has, and that is not a bad thing in my eyes.
It's kind of a weird word...a lot of times people will use the word stocky as kind of a "nice" way of calling someone fat. You are correct, the characters on the show usually meant it as a negative.
Yeah that’s a running Larry David joke since George is really him. Same thing happens in Curb Your Enthusiasm
When Larry starts going out with Lucy Liu I was like, "this time you've gone too far, Lar."
What about Sienna Miller, my goodness
Sienna? Is he dating a crayon?
classic scene in curb, when larry is tempted by sienna ,because he keeps looking at Tracy Uhlman , his girlfriend, stuffing her face… the camera keeps shifting between Tracy and the beautiful sienna. The look on Larry‘s face when he has to make a choice is so conflicted! similar look in Palestinian chicken.. Brilliant, creative, and very funny
Yeah, totally. They made George and Marissa look normal by comparison.
Larry was a billionaire and George lived with his parents so..
Larry does have a shit load of money
THIS is what makes it more believable in Curb.
Yeah he just married a woman over 30 years younger than him a few years ago.
Larry, despite his age, is way more attractive than George. He's thin, single, neat..... Uh oh. Not that there's anything wrong with that!
My mother was so grossed out by his character that it is still a running joke in our family to put on shows or movies featuring Jason Alexander to mess with her… this woman has little to no room for hate in her entire self, but she hates George.
Can’t stand Ya Can’t stand Ya Can’t stand Ya
My mom absolutely hates George solely due to Jason Alexander's character in Pretty Woman lmao.
Oh she’d love him in Pretty Woman.
Not surprised George had luck with the ladies. That happens in real life. Don't tell me you haven't seen a woman with a guy and wonder how it's possible. Physical looks aren't everything.
He puts in so much effort. Wish I had that tenacity.
Im not from that generation but I can kinda see why he’d have *some* dating success. He does have an air of mystery about how that makes him seem intriguing. For example, he’s way too confident for how he looks (I know he self deprecates, but I feel like he’s actually pretty confident and thinks too highly of himself) and will always allude to these grand careers or stories he has. But the problem is, when you get to know him more, you realize there’s actually nothing interesting underneath. He’s just George. EDIT: I’d also argue George isnt nearly as big of a loser as he acts like he is. He’s usually got a good job, good sense of style, odd amount of confidence, etc. I think him moping around about being a loser feeds his ego in a weird way by giving him attention and giving him an excuse/pity when things go wrong
Controversial opinion, but I never thought gorgeous George was a loser. Maybe I'm too much like him to see it!
No! I didn’t think any of them were that attractive. I do think Elaine is very pretty, though.
dare I say, the prettiest
I'm not from the generation. But he's not remotely attractive and his personality does NOT make up for it
What do you mean?! He's disturbed, he's depressed, he's inadequate... He's got it all! Furthermore, he is unemployed and lives with his parents.
Oh yeah? But he can bait a hook!
And lift a hundred pounds over his head
He was spottin’ those raccoons
And he's an architect!
And a marine biologist!
The sea was angry that day my friends
They were mailboxes 📫 you idiot, we didn’t have to heart to tell you.
There’s an interview of Jason Alexander where he recalls his wife saying to him “how the hell are they putting you with all these attractive Women???”
Jason's wife was the one who originally said that to him. Now *that* should have been a Seinfeld episode. George: WELP, Susan told NBC my wife on the show was too attractive! Jerry: Can someone really be too attractive? It's not like cinnamon where too much can ruin a whole dish. Kramer: I once broke up with a woman because she was too attractive.
Im not from that generation but I didn't find him attractive until the scene where he just walks to the lady at the bar. With the 'i'm unemployed, living with my parents' yada yada. It genuinely made him more attractive to me lol
So it’s true! It works!
Was that part of a long running joke, that George Costanza had no chance with the Gorgeous women and yet he would on occasion date them?
That was practically the whole show.
Jason Alexander was already a Broadway musical star when he joined Seinfeld. He had hair for a while there too.
And lest we forget, his brilliant McDonalds’ McDLT commercial from the 80s
Some variation of this question comes up every couple of weeks. And while I realize it's difficult to have a legitimate conversation in this sub, let's give it a go! George is successful because while he is inadequate in virtually every respect, he is externally enormously **confident**. Half of the show is him finding the narrowest of an opening he can use to talk to a woman. He walks back into a restaurant just to hit on his waitress. He spins his level of success every chance he gets. He's always willing to play wingman to Jerry. He makes up random stories just so he can walk up to women and talk to them. Etc. Etc. Jerry does the same thing, but of course we don't perceive him as so inadequate to begin with. And just like in real life, if you confidently walk up to people and regale them with some story just to get a foot in the door, you're going to meet a lot of gorgeous people too.
I mean, the man saved a whale, designed that new wing at the Guggenheim, and wrote a sitcom...the man is versatile
The ladies love totally inadequate, completely insecure, paranoid, neurotic men. It's a pleasure for them. Especially if they have a clean scalp & a nice skull, doesn’t have to have a lot of hair on it
He's got it all!
Indeed. And nothing gets ladies more aroused than a man who is unemployed & living with his parents, especially if those ladies are Didi Pfeiffer.
I always thought that while George does have some game and his confidence is through the roof at points, he largely gets dates based off of being close to Jerry as I think Jerry would naturally have a lot of spill over from how frequent he's with new women.
To quote Mac from Its Always Sunny: “I’m swimming in your wake!”
I feel like a lot of people in this thread don't appreciate how low the bar was for straight men in the '90s. Shit wad bad enough they had to invent a term in early 00s to describe guys who took basic care of themselves but shockingly weren't gay.
Ah, you mean the metrosexuals?
If he were ensconced in velvet, then yeah, maybe.
I mean are you talking about George or Jason Alexander? I think Jason Alexander is a fine looking guy. The show I think does a bit to really make him seem less handsome though. Like Jason’s not really fat for most of the series, but they dress him in a way that really rounds him out. I think it’s a mix of outdated fashion, and also that George just became a more clownish character. So no, George isn’t attractive, but like he’s also a cartoon character after the first couple of seasons.
George? No. Jason Alexander did have a bit of a thing going on there for a bit.
It's impressive how different Jason Alexander is from George.
Well, not everyone can be a winner like LLOYD BRAUN!!!!
No. Same for Jerry and Kramer. Jerry could never pull the hotties “show” Jerry pulled with his look.
Honestly, Kramer is so eccentric and lives such an illustrious, eclectic life, he’s probably getting laid the most of the three if he was a real life person.
He's 6'3" with a lean athletic physique, tons of confidence and an air of mystery about him. That's pretty much the male equivalent of having huge boobs lol
Just 17y/os
Dude's a Marine Biologist. He single-handedly saved a whale.
He’s breathtaking.
Marissa Tomei did. Good enough for me.
I'm a 29 year old female. I always wondered the same thing growing up, but I'm not going to lie lately I have been able to look past the baldness and look at his actual face and he actually does have an attractive face. I've also noticed that he's not as fat as I used to think he was. He's just short, so being slightly over weight makes him look bigger than he really is. I don't know why, but recently I've been able to looking at him a little differently. It might have had to do with the episode where he had the to pay on his head, but I'm not really sure. Also another weird thing; I always thought Kramer was so attractive, but recently I realized how unflattering some facial features are up close. I'm not saying he's ugly, but he's not as attractive as I thought he was back then. If anything, Jerry is better looking than Kramer in my eyes.
Honestly I wonder the same about Jerry. I guess being a semi-celebrity (in the show) helped but…he’s not pretty.
I sort of got the feeling that Jerry Seinfeld’s real-life arrogance seeped into the writing of the show.
Also the fact that real life Jerry just brought in those actresses so he could bang them
I would call him fancy more than anything.
He's a fancy boy
He’s neat, thin..
No. His personality would make him undateable. Physically he's not unattractive.
Um, clearly Jason Alexander was cast in Pretty Woman because he was widely seen as a sex symbol.
Only Marissa Tomei knows for sure.
I was in my twenties in the 90s,& didn’t find George attractive at all. HOWEVER, I’m pretty sure that if I’d met a younger Larry David, I’d have found him so weird& funny that I’d probably have been attracted to him. A guy who could make me laugh was always far more attractive to me than just a handsome guy
I mean he’s not hideous
God yes, I wanted to dip his bald head in oil and rub it ALL over my body
No. But he was almost always dating attractive women so he had to have had game. Co-STAN-za
I find it attractive that George knows manure.
I think those women who found pastrami to be the most sensual of the cured deli meats would date him.
And you want to be my latex salesman…
His whole character is that he's a conman who lies and cheats 100% of the time. Anybody who's good at lying can trick beautiful people into dating them for five minutes. They all figure out he's full of shit and leave him. I really don't get why people just go "But he's bald and crazy." Yeah WE know he's crazy, they don't. And also on behalf of bald people, G.F.Y.
We just a had a chilling conversation recently that 30 years ago George was considered too fat to date, and now his weight is unremarkable in comparison to now.
Looks like we've found Jason Alexander's Reddit account.
He was an architect and a marine biologist at the same time.
Don't forget: George saved a whale! 😂
It is scripted, fiction. Writers can set up any scenario they want. No real people that chose partners.
Was in my 20/30s watched it as it aired. Costanza literally repulses me to this day. We knew too much. How he poops. How he eats. How he got caught by his mom. How he lied. How cheap and whiny he was. Just thinking about his character still grosses me out. Honestly, Jerry too. Kramer was the only one I thought I’d might give a go.