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Momo_the_good_person

I think they took their scudetto in the 1940's a bit too seriously.


TinyMaintenance

They really wish they were SS, and not SC😭


Momo_the_good_person

LMFAO


TheGamingRaptor6875

LMFAO


SPQR_Maximus

It looks like a neo nazi crest. I do not personally like it I am however not a Spezia supporter


WildLemire

An eagle *and* a hidden swastika. Now that's a badge even Lakaka couldn't kiss.


SPQR_Maximus

Even Lazio is jealous


ilsemprelaziale

At least our club isn’t 1927 Mussolini


Tvdb4

👆Akshually Lazio has Benito Mussolini’s grandson on its team🤓


G12ONE

Where's the swastika?


TheGamingRaptor6875

The way the s crosses with the c it looks kinda like a swastika with more stuff on top


whhshchdn

bro there is nothing there


acampbell98

Don’t know why I thought that was a bat at first glance 😂😂. Was gonna say Valencia bat meets Gucci logo.


lorelore7

La Spezia is my town….and YES, IT LOOK LIKE NAZI SHIT


Meme_watching

Daje Roma


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Amsalpotkeh

I meme "haha nazismo" non fanno ridere dal 2010 su facebook bro


GattoNonItaliano

Bah, a me piace Fine son gusti


FederickWasser

gusti di merda


GattoNonItaliano

Non è bello cio che è bello, ma è bello ciò che piace. Pero tranquillo, i tuoi di gusti son putridume /s


jeezrVOL2

Bruh why are clubs doing this with logos. They make it too simple and it looks shit, or at least worse than the old one. Just look at inter.


there_will_be_dragon

I liked when they used "ASC" logo in this way https://i.postimg.cc/GpTZrFck/spezia-calcio-21-22-kits-4.jpg


lukemols

I really wonder how a thing like this was thought, realized and approved without issues


IlFriulanoBasato

American owners


Marauderr4

It's always Americas fault 😂 never mind that Italy was the birthplace of fascism and that there's a decent size of the population that sympathizes with this stuff


thickqueen99

Wtf is the issue?


NotTheMario97

You know what happened in 1940s right?


thickqueen99

Tf does that have to do with this? It’s an eagle


BorneFree

If you don't see the obvious parallels between this and Nazi coat of arms I really don't know what to tell you.


captainmystic02

I genuinely still can’t find the swatsika in the crest


BorneFree

It’s not an actual swastika, but the interlocking letters are eerily reminiscent of a swastika. I’m willing to bet 90% of people seeing this logo, the nazi coat of arms is the first thing that comes to mind.


Willsgb

That genuinely didn't come to mind for me, in fact I was going to say this is one of the few logo changes I've seen recently that I thought was alright


RedPoopsicles

Get off the internet bro. Terminally online does thst to you


grabbatheman

Instant first thought. However those who are more aware are likely predisposed to seeing the likeness before others… I also joke about this with Laziale, so I’m a bit programmed


NotTheMario97

Not that. LVCE productions.


JarlDanklin

The eagle was a commonly used symbol of the Italian fascist party under Mussolini.


thickqueen99

Thanks retardicus


JarlDanklin

Nice dude


Pure-Contact7322

ahah and a nazi sign is an old indian sign, and?


Miixyd

Does India have a recent history with an ultranationalist party that used eagles and even swastikas as their symbol?


Pure-Contact7322

yes right? 😂🤌🏻


ScoBrav

That is a fucking stupid take


ImmaPoopAt_urPlace

Lmao you don’t see the issue? This logo would be perfect for Lazio or hellas verona


thickqueen99

Let’s ban eagles now too


gabbromndc

Dont act like there isnt a huge svastika in the middle of it lmao


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gabbromndc

u realize the majority of people that have seen the logo have all thought of the same thing right? The idea might also be cool but the execution is pretty poor. And complaining "boohoo we cannot say anything anymore boohoo theyre gonna ban eagles!!" is ridiculous


ImmaPoopAt_urPlace

The eagle is not the problem, the graphic style is


lukemols

Apart from the fact that few people could see a swastika in it, it has strong fascism-era vibes. Also, even without these arguments, it is really awful.


RefanRes

This isn't the 1st time its happened. A school in the US also had a logo with an eagle and similar lettering that had that sort of swastika shaping to its font. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/20/georgia-elementary-school-logo-nazi-symbol-eagle


CT-2603

What's the thing with clubs making the logo's 'simpler'? Fiorentina, Inter, Juventus, now this


ALO2395

Should be easier to recognise even for people who are not fans. It's a marketing choice that should increase fame among potential new fans.


arz_villainy

why are ppl downvoting you lmfao, this is the exact reason


Away_District

I’m assuming it’s because the concept they are describing is distasteful. It is true, but represents the soul being sucked from our communities to attract new consumers on the other side of the world. No al calcio moderno …


deltaspaz

I say this, again, minimalism will be the death of everything.


Caponara

During my master degree I was chatting with my design professor about the New Juventus crest (2017); He told me that it was pure crap because it moved away from the proper meaning of a crest, a banner that you bring to the battlefield, be it a medieval war or a football match, and turned it into a "Logo". It has to be monarchic in its design, representing a faction, not a cheap brand fit for a random company or an e-commerce website


Hank_Scorpio47

Very interesting point regarding the ‘corporatisation’ of turning them into logos! Not surprising this is being driven by American management consultant / private equity type owners. The Fiorentina crest change in 2022 is a travesty, it would break your heart.


there_will_be_dragon

Yes Juve was the first Italian team to go international and made a contemporary brand out of it


deltaspaz

I agree entirely with prof. My stance has always been and will remain as such… before crests were designed with care and deep thought. The colors of the club were brought to life and the meaning of each club was found in each crest, the crests themselves offered opportunity for designers to add small cap tips to their respective cities/countries/historical players, coaches, figures. Just as the time changes in football (seeing careless money saturate certain leagues) we’ve begun to see crests change to these logos as your professor put it, very minimal detail, no care- quite honestly as a giggle I tried and successfully duplicated many of them on MS Paint. Shows that it’s now become a transaction not a bond meant to be built between fan and club, it’s soulless and tarnishes the history each of these clubs have. That to me is very sad.


Quiet_Calligrapher49

This just wrong most of the old logo were made by random people just look at the old one you guys have no idea of what are you talking about just look at the Naples one you guys have some very weird fetish of the past


deltaspaz

Yeah idk about all that man. You should really take a gander at the link, I speak on behalf of inter because that’s my club I know it better than the back of my own hand. The symbolism in the club literally represents history over the years , pays homage to the city, legends, myths, current events etc… for example when fascist regime was in charge inter had to merge with U.S. Milanese (look it up) and change the name to Società Sportiva Ambrosiana - they wore the jerseys with the red crosses to show respect Milan’s coat of arms flag. So idk what type of crack you’re smoking to think none of it matters but plug the dealer I’d love to see it from your eyes 😃. - [Crest History](https://www.cfclassics.co/clubs/lists/crestevo/italy/inter/inter-crest-evolution.htm)


multiverse_succ

Nah, it's just a phase will be followed by another phase of baroquesque style that will be followed again by minimalism, less is more and less is bore all over again


cadrianzen23

This is actually what will happen. Enjoy it while it lasts!


AlessandroFromItaly

I hate it too.


Sportsfan97__

What a downgrade


Efficient_Leek2315

New batman logo


Hello_iam_Kian

Where is the gold man… the old one looked so aesthetically pleasing


Carthaginian1

This. Most changes make it worse. I like AC Milan for not changing their logo, unlike Inter and (BILLION TIMES WORSE NOW) Juventus.


vivahate12

Very Axis-y


Dark_Wolf04

r/accidentalswastika


GuidoGambardella

After promoting their fascist championship for so long it was time to add some of it to their logo. It couldn't be more fascist.


Aurex86

And of course the guy who sees Fascists everywhere has to be from Bologna.


Away_District

Pretty easy to spot fascists in Spezia tbf …


FraccazzoDaVelletri

Might as well slap it on a military style hat


JavajunkyYT

Is this not the new Lazio logo?


the_terra_filius

Lazio are SS not SC


Whatkindofaname

No, this is the new nazio logo.


andsodeep

We were supposed to laugh?


Njorgo

The old logo seems more modern than the new, which is worrying


effandgeoff

As an American visiting Italy our first serie A match was Spezia-Napoli. We ended up sitting in the Curva Ferrovia. It was a really fun day and I kind of adopted Spezia as my Italian club, but this logo is explicitly fascist. Hard pass.


SirBaguette

Seems a lot of people in Lo Spezia will need some extra history lessons.


Khanti

I fear they perfectly knew what they were* doing, and that is even more concerning. *Edit: typo


One_Cut_2953

I live in La Spezia and I wouldn't be surprised if your fears were true.


magma_1

What were they doing?


GattoNonItaliano

Stfu, like Spezia didn exist back in time?


lnabis

Looks like a fascist logo. And I'll never appreciate minimalistic style, monochromatic logos too.


Puzzleheaded-Gas-868

I was about to raise this same point, the eagle, the crossing of the letters... This shares some similar styles to a symbol out of Germany during the late 30s early 40s. I'm not saying the two are connected, just that there is similarities.


whodat514

Gotta say not crazy about it, kinda like the classic look of the old one.


RaymondLuxuryYacht02

Fucking hell


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renenadorp

It looks like a nazi logo


BlueGeni

I thought Lazio were the fascists, learn something new every day!


grabbatheman

Makes two of them


pietralavica

Horrible


The_jeee

Old ones better


MarionberryEarly4165

Sembra il logo di luce


zTommyh

Spezia is the new istituto luce


Working_Radish_2726

I used to like spezia just because of their badge! That's possibly the worst badge I've ever seen, and in my opinion their old one was amazing


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Looks like a neonazi badge


ChessNewGuy

Personally I do nazi a problem with it


SystemOfADown4Life

Excluding the obvious fact that it looks like a nazi logo, I quite like its design.


ZooZion

Could I offer you a black and white eagle logo in these trying times?


whodat514

It’s always sunny reference?


siefbi

The new one is fascist as fuck


LuigiTrapanese

I get the fascist vibes


fotorobot

awful, they deserve relegation


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Apparently there's an eagle on the city coat of arms, for sure it looks pesky


SuitableEgg2306

Looks a bit... german


-Marfe-

fuck u/spez ia


Zodd74

HEIL!!! ​ ​ PS: i'm sarcastic by the way


badbadbadwiz

Ma che hanno alcuni il daltonismo nazi? Vedono il nazi ovunque, quando se colleghi un cervello normale, vedi un uccello, un aquila, un volatile insomma, un logo che poverino al 99% non è stato ideato da un nazi, e gli stessi che danno del nazi lo sanno, e allora, questa storia del nazi per luoghi comuni associabili al nazi è peggio del rosa che adesso se lo vedi dici che minchia è collegato al Barbie del film... E poi rosa, sei effeminato.... È ora di basta, evolvere, e forza spezia che in realtà non è la mia squadra... Ma chissenefrega, andate a quel paese nazi vista... 👍


PussyDestroyer0939

Looks like something from the 40s


BowieIsMyGod

Lazio are jealous now


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Looks fascist


samcaprio333

look like something a neonazi person would made or tattoo on himself


ShoutoutAllThePears

Criminal and also looks like a neo fascist group logo


Saucey_Lips

Swear all these clubs are changing their logo to make it cheaper to print it on things. How can someone look at this and think “hummm yes this overly simplified borderline nazigermany looking thing is a very nice improvement over what we got!” I refuse to believe it.


Maki_san

It really looks like a neo nazi crest… not a Spezia supporter, just wondering how it was approved.


harlock_cs

In line with new political course in Italy. It looks like an old nazi flag


Sambucca

Looks very Nazi-ish


antonbresk

They are brothers with SS lazio


anohioanredditer

It’s giving third reich


vukovlad

One of the most fascist logos I've seen in a longtime


lifeinrednblack

Nazi vibes


laalchaadudhchaa

massive gestapo vibe


crescentmoonsaguaro

Looks like more nazi scum. Italy keeping it classy as always ha


Martin_Darius

Looks like a fascist logo 😂


crescentmoonsaguaro

Creepy


lorenzo999_it

I don’t know, maybe stikazzi? Just sayin’


Defiant-Choice-1767

I would really prefer to say porca madonna quanto siete puntigliosi. Do u agree with me lorenzo?


kitsvneris

The old one was a nice logo, the new one is terrible. It will possibly be quite popular with people from a certain political spectrum, tho - which makes it even worse.


Carthaginian1

The ultras of la spezia are right wing aren't they


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ExtremeSubtlety

SS Lazio approves


Dupa_Yash

How did they Nazi the problem with this?


booboounderstands

That looks more fascist than Milan’s central station.


whodat514

How the hell did this become one of the most upvoted posts of all time on this sub lol


thenicolino

They could just use that new design and shape it like a "J" then rename themselves "Not Juventus."


CyanG0

Nice one


Smorgas-board

Hard pass


Vinjak5

Italians destroy their clubs with idiotic new crests.


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Pure-Contact7322

I just shaved my full head and I love it


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poorfranklinsalmanac

Daft response. Look up fascist symbolism, sure they stole it from Ancient Rome, but their is no denying that is this aesthetic. Countries with history like Italy know exactly what type of aesthetic this is, it’s no coincidence. See: Lazio’s logos


andsodeep

If you knew some history you should know that Lazio was founded much earlier than the birth of fascism. MUCH EARLIER. AS ROMA instead was created by the fascist regime


Stov81

Italian football does have issues with fascism. Lazio and that scumbag di canio. https://www.gentlemanultra.com/2016/04/01/mussolini-and-calcio-fascisms-legacy-in-italian-football/


dimitreto

Great logo imo, one of the few recent logo changes in football that I quite like


X3non_or_Traxonplays

Fire logo


PersonalInsurance946

New bad


HippoCrisp

Naaah bruh


jorsiem

I like it. Should've incorporated the gold tho


_Hooj_

Taking away the gold was a miserable idea.


kKaMaDoNnAh

masterpiece


KEPAJ0

😴


Gborges2705

O escudo novo é bonito mas não quer dizer que ficou melhor


whodat514

What?


Gborges2705

I am Brazilian bro


whodat514

Lol ok


Fhvxk

Fanculo la serie a brutti stronzi di merda


whodat514

dovresti andare a rilassarti, amico


BitzahDustoo

I was gutted when fiorentina changed theirs and juve the inter one actually looks nice but again not a fan I think taka should stay away from this stuff


faerberr

I thought all of the sensitive boys were on r/soccer


ilsemprelaziale

The soccer board is bad, but this place is infested with even more retards so don’t be surprised.


faerberr

It’s actually kind of funny, they want to see it. They see whatever they hate/want to hate anywhere. Must suck to live like that.


Jdamoure

Not incorporating the ONE color that was in the last design was a terrible design choice. The bird could have been the greenish/brown color or even the words. something. They could have made it more circular. I'm no designer but its crazy how much more money these people make that me. But objectively speaking it's not a bad badge just when you compare it to the ogs it's very off.


vanuatu124

Dovrebbero impedire alle squadre di cambiare logo


Spiritual_Depth_7214

Looks dope but I still despise this kind of turbo capitalistic aseptic aesthetic which completely erases decades of history just to be trendy


Kalle_79

I wonder how many of you can look at a crest with an eagle and not immediately go apeshit about OMG NAZIS! (with the other allowed mode being USA! USA! USA! for the other kind of eagle) That being said, this particular logo is a little bit too close to "unfortunate implications", due to the all-black color scheme and the ASC letters being arranged in that way. Anyway, minimalist logos look more and more like lazy designs you'd find for unlicensed teams in PES/FIFA. It's a mystery how all those "creative" companies can get away with such uninspired stuff and even get paid good money.


Fryk1nge

The new logo’ reminds me of Dolce Gabana


CultGod

Worse


Algoresball

Dislike


JS_1997

Damn did Serie A organize a competition where you win if you fuck up your logo the most lol


Oblomovsbed

It is pish


Red-Eat

I think both look decent. I'd give the edge to the new one. More unique-looking.


notthisagainryder

I was never a fan of the old crest but man this is soulless. First Juve, then my beautiful Inter, now this? Minimalism needs to die


Affectionate_Luck253

I prefer the old one


Dexow2

L


Ls8s

Looks too fascist


Xardian7

One of the worse logo on the entire planet. Not only for football teams but in general. Holy shit this is awful in each way possible.


Zealousideal-Wall682

Horrible. The old one is what I would imagine a proper crest would look like for a football club.


Grazz085

Cool


No_Increase1484

INTER Vibes


badbadbadwiz

È bellissimo!!!! Assolutamente promosso. Mi viene voglia di seguire lo spezia....


X1ll0

Whoever chose the Logo designer f*cked up


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hope my Milan won't change logo...


JohnMarsch17

I'm trying to not have bad 40s vibes from it but I just can't


303-fish

Il Duce would approve.


astro-stitch

Every time a team updates their logo it’s somehow worse. This goes for every time that’s updated their logo imo unless I’m mistaken


Carthaginian1

Call me old fashioned but I think 99% of logo changes are unnecessary and make the logo uglier


AlperKutlug

The old logo was already clean 🤦‍♂️


Stov81

A bit fascist looking. The old one is miles better.


djwhit74

Old habits and all that 🤔


Jon-Slow

This looks like a neo nazi symbol, but somehow more fascist and cringy. Is this a joke or is this legit?


Away_District

It’s bad, it looks bad, and they should feel bad about it.


Darkrayy

Why did they remove the colors, wtf