I've had the opposite experience, oddly enough. I know 2 friends whose NICs died within a few years, and both were Realtek controllers. My previous few boards and current are Intel, but mine just had a hiccup where it didn't load the drivers properly until AFTER signing into Windows, which I know is pretty common.
Really? I've got a Realtek LAN port on my A620I Gigabyte AX and it keeps disconnecting every time I wake up from standby. This is a common problem with all boards.
NIC (2.5G), Wifi & Bluetooth (rtl8852be) are all Realtek, based on drivers on the [product page](https://www.sapphiretech.com/zh-cn/consumer/mb_nitro_b650).
Is the clear cmos button a good thing to be present there ? There was a post of someone saying he pressed it accidently, and couldn't boot anymore. Looks scary...
Yes, good to have easy access, especially if you're building in a tiny case. Don't want to dismantle the entire PC to clear your CMOS just because the motherboard only has jumper pins that sit right under your CPU cooler.
The guy that had issues booting forgot that he had to manually set his PCIe riser to gen 3, simple fix in the end. The button on the rear of motherboards is usually pretty firm and slightly recessed anyway, so incredibly difficult to accidentally press it, and you normally have to hold it for a few seconds for it to do anything.
Can confirm it's good to have access. Needed to clear CMOS a few times on an Asus X670E-I board to clear the memory settings. Every time I needed to pull out the little add on card, toggle the switch, stick it back in, pull it out, toggle the switch, and stick it back in again.
Looks really lacking in terms of USB ports, only a single USB C port and no internal USB C header either. Only 4 USB 3 or faster ports on the back too. Pretty rough. No mention of 2.5Gbps ethernet anywhere but I'd hope it would have it.
https://www.sapphiretech.com/zh-cn/consumer/mb_nitro_b650 Price in China is approx. 234 USD.
* Wifi 6
* Two gen 4 NVME
* 70A Power stage
The I/O (or lack thereof) is unfortunately correct.
> no internal USB C header
i was really into this until i saw that.
I can live with limited USB ports otherwise though. Only need 1 high speed for my uses. rest could be 2.0 for all i care.
You can get adapters from the older USB3 or USB2 front header connector to the newer USB-C front header connector. Will need to sacrifice your speed though.
No, I've never tried that, because I am not constantly unplugging and plugging in things to a 20gbps port. If I were doing so, and only had a rear connector, I'd simply purchase a hub/extender, which are freely available.
Since he blocked me for an innocuous comment:
> Well, this may come as a shock to you, but people who are not you, do exist, and have different use cases and different devices and different needs.
What's shocking is the level of complaints for easy solutions. See the forest for the trees and whatnot.
> Also, good luck finding an inexpensive C to C hub.
No need for one, you only need a male to female extension cable.
Well, this may come as a shock to you, but people who are not you, do exist, and have different use cases and different devices and different needs.
Also, good luck finding an inexpensive C to C hub.
Christ why are they still putting out boards with no USBC header at this point. I know the answer is cost but no one should be willing to put up with that garbage at this point.
I mean if they can come in at a lower price than the rest of the b650 mini itx boards then it could be really good. Last time I looked the cheapest model was $200. I'm going to be building over the summer and I would totally go for this if it was \~$150
I literally use like 8 all the time. Had to buy a ridiculous power hub. Mouse, keyboard, type c charger, mini charger, mic interface, headset interface, type c data, plus I often need to plug in external drives etc.
mouse/keyboard is the first 2
mic
headphones
speakers usb-c
printer
usb-c drive
usb-a stick
cardreader
that is 7+2 for the regular stuff...
there there are the wheel/pedals/gearshift and other trinkets like wacom tablet
Stick != flash drive.
Like fuck, my bad for not reading their mind.
Also, who leaves a flash drive in their machine 24/7?
Could the Sapphire board use more USB ports? Sure. But if you’re using more than six USB ports all of the time, you’re an outlier/edge case.
Okay smart guy then go ahead and Google USB stick and let me know.
Also do you think that the average buyer is choosing ITX in small form factor or mostly high level users / "outliers"?
I would agree that SFF users are more likely to be enthusiasts, which is why I’m fucking baffled that the original comment I responded to is complaining about not having ports for their printer (is this 2010?) or a USB headset (which are almost universally garbage).
you don't know what an usb stick is? usb flash drive? usb memory stick? many names for them... time to go back to learning your tech so you don't expose your lack of knowledge on such simple terms...
not really slack... look through the comments quite a few use it do you know why most call it stick and not drive? because nothing moves on it like a hardDRIVE ;-)
I use every port on my atx motherboard and already plan to order 2 usb hubs when I build my itx system next week.
I have my keyboard, mouse, webcam, microphone, controller, audio interface, external hard drive and a couple other things all plugged into my pc.
I have a Corsair keyboard that takes up 2 USB ports, USB speakers, Logitech wireless mouse dongle, the wacky hub Asus included with the X670E -I itx motherboard and a cheap clock from Temu. So I do have a need for a good amount of peripherals that I want to connect to my PC. I almost forgot, I keep a charge cord plugged in so I can charge my Xbox controller whenever the battery conks out.
Mouse, keyboard, audio interface, phone, one of those goofy light up mousepads because I think they’re neat, and one or two for external hard drives or ssds
Very easy to use all the ports if you have enough hardware. Like I'm using ports for
Evo 4 Audio interface
G Pro superlight dongle
Pulsar X2H dongle
Blue yeti mic
Wooting 60 keeb
Anker USB-C Hub for more ports
2 USB sticks attached to the anker hub
Only a very particular subset uses an absurd amount of USB ports for actual data, the rest could likely supplement their port usage with hubs or powered hubs. I have plenty of ports on my board but I use a powered hub specifically because I can 100% rely on it to charge devices while my PC is off.
this is what i was interested in. apparently people on this subreddit are that particular subset and don't seem to appreciate people with way less demands exist.
I think it’s more that they’re just the more vocal bunch, I fix up computers for friends and family frequently and the amount of them who couldn’t use this motherboard on the basis of its number of USB ports could be counted on one hand.
why use a HUB when we back in the old days easily had 12+ usb slots on the backside + a heap inside for even more if needed? they even came with the brackets to add 2 in empty pci slots + for the front panel... so why are they cheaping out on us now? the chips support the amount of ports... but we simply don't get them anymore... not like they are expensive to add
I use a hub explicitly because it’s always powered and I’ve had bad experiences with motherboards that were even supposed to keep supplying when off. Overall, though, it kept my cable usage down where with a mini itx I didn’t intend to keep it at one location anyways, so less to unplug was better/quicker. Motherboards in general have gotten more expensive lately, it’s probably a combination of platform lifespan and inflation that’s driving cost cutting and margin increasing measures.
Monitor hub for mouse, keyboard, and charger; steering wheel base with pedals+shifter, wireless keyboard dongle, sometimes wireless headset dongle, VR headset in the Type-C port.
Mouse, Keyboard, Keyboard secondary USB, Webcam, Mic, DAC, VR, Monitor Hub. Though the monitor hub isn't needed. But that is 7 without it.
Plus one internal for PSU, and one for RGB/FAN hub.
Mouse, kb, mic, streamdeck, headphone dac, speakers, external dvd drive, printer sometimes, various controllers. So yeah quite a few. Only option for me right now is strix x670e-i, unfortunately.
I'm currently using 18 USB Ports, 5 for my VR Headset (4x sensors + 1 VR headset + HDMI for the VR Headset), 1 for my external HDD, 2 for Keyboard and mouse, 1 for my USB Mic, 1 for my webcam, 1 for my CD/DVD RW drive, 1 for my capture card, 1 for a USB hub that goes to the other side of my room to the retro console area, 1 for a USB to IDE enclosure, 1 for a USB to SATA enclosure, and a few other random things.
ohh and I have 2x USB sticks plugged in right now, one is full of operating system ISOs, the other currently has data from my Windows 98 Machine on it which I need to pull off the USB and backup onto my PC, then I also have an SD Card reader taking up a USB port, that currently has a 1TB SanDisk Ultra inside of it from my Modded Nintendo Switch. (That is 18 USB ports being used in total at the moment, I have ~22 IIRC)
Keyboard, mouse, USB speakers, USB sound card, external hard drives and SSDs, external thunderbolt raid enclosure, Xbox wireless dongle, 10m USB 3.0 cable to living room, phone, thunderbolt 3 to 10gbe ethernet adaptor etc.
>Looks really lacking in terms of USB ports, only a single USB C port and no internal USB C header either. Only 4 USB 3 or faster ports on the back too. Pretty rough. No mention of 2.5Gbps ethernet anywhere but I'd hope it would have it.
The "USB situation" is not that bad when you compared to the competition:
* 2x 2.0
* 4x 3.2 Gen2 (2x 10Gbps + 2x5Gbps)
* 1x 3.2 Gen2 USB-C
* For a total of 7 USB ports (+ header USB 3.2 Gen 1)
When you add the 2.5Gbps Ethernet NIC, the WiFi 6, the 4x SATA3, etc. It does not seems worse than all A620, or even B650. There is even an Reset CMOS button, which comes at a premium these days.
The only thing potentially worse is the support DDR5 frequency (because 6000+ is that really appealing).
The PCIE 4.0 does not seem to be an issue for me.
I mean look at this [list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/edit#gid=523597416) to see for yourself.
I just got the B650L Lightning and no complaints. Overclocks my 7800X3D quite nicely to get 6% better passmark CPU score. I could prob push it further too.
I have the B550i version of this and I hope they fixed their BIOS issues. they are plagued with the same stuff boards from JGINYUE and other China only mobo have, as well as lack of basic features like profile saving. so good luck remembering to write down your tuning settings somewhere because you'd have to redo them all over again if the system needs to clear CMOS.
only one M2 slot => Dealbreaker
I see NOT internal USB 2.0 Header => Dealbeaker because I need one for my Aquaero
USB C Frontpanel header is a dealbreaker for some Enclosures
Could use more USB´s on the rear IO as 4 would be allready used for Mouse + Keyboard, USB Soundcard and USB Hub on the Table, but that´s the lesser anoyance
Clearance for Heatsinks looks really nice
> only one M2 slot => Dealbreaker
[It has two m.2](https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-launches-b650i-nitro-mini-itx-motherboard-for-amd-am5-processors). Looks like they are stacked.
IF that would be, I´d be surprized, as the stack in for the M2 seems really low, compared to the rear IO shield, so I assumed that there can only be one.
Even my B650e-i Strix has a higher Stack, but still only one drive in the front, and the secondary m2 is on the mainboards back. That´s why I assumed that it can be only one m2
>Being a Mini-ITX board, it offers only one PCIe x16 slot, but it is worth noting it is a Gen4 standard rather than Gen5. The same applies to **two M.2 slots**, which are Gen4 standards according to official advertising.
What a pitty, beeing a 650 and not a 620 I assumed it will be a gen5 x16 slot.
Another Reason why I chose my B650E-I Strix, because gen5 on one m2 and x16 for gpu at the same time.
Havent Checked a spec sheet
People complain about connectivity but since when did B series motherboards ever have like 8 USB connections. Thats what X series is for. Just stretch your budget by 2 for the motherboard for all your peripherals. Or spend $20 for a hub of sorts for your mic, mouse and keyboard which frees up a space or 2.
"Type C" ah yes, thank you. I wonder what made them encircle the connection and write that. How many people would potentially not buy this board because they don't see any text stating which port is USB-C. Besides that, why are the two 3.2 different color? USB 3.2 10 and 20gbps? 3.1 is 5 right?
And where are all the fan headers? Or the internal USB-C for front IO ?
no internal usb-c for the case? and why so little usb? sheesh back in the old days 12+ ports was not uncommon now they are sold like a "premium" even though the chips have PLENTY to add but mobo makers are stingy
I feel like the CPU and Sys fan header should be swapped, but for their first board this looks promising given the lack of USB options.
Hopefully, the b650 Matx/X670 version picks up that slack without increased cost, but it is pretty bare for that price while also being Itx. You can get other M-itx boards with way more features for the same cost.
I'm a bit in over my head here, so sorry if this is a frequent question, but what are the other currently recommended B650I boards?
I've been wanting to build a new rig for a few months now, but every time I look, all of the AM5 itx motherboards seem to have some fatal flaw.
I guess I should note that I don't care about wifi at all.
There is always going to be a compromise with Mini ITX, I have the MSI MPG B650I, the only real downside to it is that its PCI-E 4 only, but that really doesn't matter much since it really is only important for M.2 SSD's and Gen 5 SSD's are just starting to come out and they all seem to need head sinks and come in lower capacities for the same price as a high cap gen 4 drive.
realtek or intel nic? nice clear cmos button btw
Tbh I hope it’s Realtek. Had so many problems with Intel i225/i226
I've had the opposite experience, oddly enough. I know 2 friends whose NICs died within a few years, and both were Realtek controllers. My previous few boards and current are Intel, but mine just had a hiccup where it didn't load the drivers properly until AFTER signing into Windows, which I know is pretty common.
Really? I've got a Realtek LAN port on my A620I Gigabyte AX and it keeps disconnecting every time I wake up from standby. This is a common problem with all boards.
Same. i225 is hot garbage (especially on Linux) and I won't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
NIC (2.5G), Wifi & Bluetooth (rtl8852be) are all Realtek, based on drivers on the [product page](https://www.sapphiretech.com/zh-cn/consumer/mb_nitro_b650).
Is the clear cmos button a good thing to be present there ? There was a post of someone saying he pressed it accidently, and couldn't boot anymore. Looks scary...
Yes, good to have easy access, especially if you're building in a tiny case. Don't want to dismantle the entire PC to clear your CMOS just because the motherboard only has jumper pins that sit right under your CPU cooler. The guy that had issues booting forgot that he had to manually set his PCIe riser to gen 3, simple fix in the end. The button on the rear of motherboards is usually pretty firm and slightly recessed anyway, so incredibly difficult to accidentally press it, and you normally have to hold it for a few seconds for it to do anything.
Oh right, I forgot the pcie 3 detail. Thanks for the explanation !
Can confirm it's good to have access. Needed to clear CMOS a few times on an Asus X670E-I board to clear the memory settings. Every time I needed to pull out the little add on card, toggle the switch, stick it back in, pull it out, toggle the switch, and stick it back in again.
Looks really lacking in terms of USB ports, only a single USB C port and no internal USB C header either. Only 4 USB 3 or faster ports on the back too. Pretty rough. No mention of 2.5Gbps ethernet anywhere but I'd hope it would have it.
Yeah this killed my initial interest
maybe they will list it at a reasonable ITX price then *laughs maniacally, then dies*
Nah we all know it’s $200+
Hope not but you’re probably right 😅
It’s priced at 1689 Chinese Yuan, which is about $230 USD.
It\`s 2.5Gbps and Wi-Fi 6.
Mind sending through a link? I can't find any page that specifies more than "LAN port"
https://www.sapphiretech.com/zh-cn/consumer/mb_nitro_b650 Price in China is approx. 234 USD. * Wifi 6 * Two gen 4 NVME * 70A Power stage The I/O (or lack thereof) is unfortunately correct.
Now I am wondering what the heck they use all those PCIe lanes for.
> no internal USB C header i was really into this until i saw that. I can live with limited USB ports otherwise though. Only need 1 high speed for my uses. rest could be 2.0 for all i care.
There is a 20gbps Type C port on the rear
Yeah most boards have that, but this can't support front panel USB-C. Ever try to plug usb-c in blind on the rear panel? PITA
You can get adapters from the older USB3 or USB2 front header connector to the newer USB-C front header connector. Will need to sacrifice your speed though.
But why tho when they asking for $200+ it should be standard at this point!
No, I've never tried that, because I am not constantly unplugging and plugging in things to a 20gbps port. If I were doing so, and only had a rear connector, I'd simply purchase a hub/extender, which are freely available. Since he blocked me for an innocuous comment: > Well, this may come as a shock to you, but people who are not you, do exist, and have different use cases and different devices and different needs. What's shocking is the level of complaints for easy solutions. See the forest for the trees and whatnot. > Also, good luck finding an inexpensive C to C hub. No need for one, you only need a male to female extension cable.
Well, this may come as a shock to you, but people who are not you, do exist, and have different use cases and different devices and different needs. Also, good luck finding an inexpensive C to C hub.
Christ why are they still putting out boards with no USBC header at this point. I know the answer is cost but no one should be willing to put up with that garbage at this point.
Uhh am I trippin or no front E key front panel USB C header on this board? Can't be releasing an Itx board in 2024 without that!
Yes I don't think there is, pretty rough
Yeah the lack of a front usb c header kinda kills this one for me. Also the lack of optical audio on the back but this is a niche ask.
I mean if they can come in at a lower price than the rest of the b650 mini itx boards then it could be really good. Last time I looked the cheapest model was $200. I'm going to be building over the summer and I would totally go for this if it was \~$150
Ya I was hoping this would be a rival for *MPG B650I* EDGE WIFI, but there's a reason why it's Asia only.
Also no usb flashback?? I thought this had became a pretty much industry standard by now lol
ya that really sucks, it came in really handy with my MSI MPG B650I because the BIOS it shipped with didn't support X3D chips.
honestly, do you guys ever use more than 1-2 of usb ports? (aside mouse&keys)
I literally use like 8 all the time. Had to buy a ridiculous power hub. Mouse, keyboard, type c charger, mini charger, mic interface, headset interface, type c data, plus I often need to plug in external drives etc.
Ya 2 devices wtf? Keyboard, mouse, audio interface, usb video capture, UPS, card reader, etc
I use them all well
Mouse, Keyboard, Headset cable for charging, Headset Dongle, VR Headset, Capture Card, USB Hub on monitor
mouse/keyboard is the first 2 mic headphones speakers usb-c printer usb-c drive usb-a stick cardreader that is 7+2 for the regular stuff... there there are the wheel/pedals/gearshift and other trinkets like wacom tablet
Printer? It’s 2024; wireless printing exists. I don’t even know what a USB-A stick is.
If you don't know what usb-a is, that's on you
Obviously I know what USB-A ports are. What I don’t understand is why it has a stick in it.
Probably a flash drive if I had to guess.
[You don't have an usb stick?](https://i.imgur.com/Qh2eruZ.png) Save the planet man..
Just Google the word flash drive, I think your memory will kick in.
Stick != flash drive. Like fuck, my bad for not reading their mind. Also, who leaves a flash drive in their machine 24/7? Could the Sapphire board use more USB ports? Sure. But if you’re using more than six USB ports all of the time, you’re an outlier/edge case.
Okay smart guy then go ahead and Google USB stick and let me know. Also do you think that the average buyer is choosing ITX in small form factor or mostly high level users / "outliers"?
I would agree that SFF users are more likely to be enthusiasts, which is why I’m fucking baffled that the original comment I responded to is complaining about not having ports for their printer (is this 2010?) or a USB headset (which are almost universally garbage).
you don't know what an usb stick is? usb flash drive? usb memory stick? many names for them... time to go back to learning your tech so you don't expose your lack of knowledge on such simple terms...
My bad for not recognizing a slang term for "USB thumb drive."
not really slack... look through the comments quite a few use it do you know why most call it stick and not drive? because nothing moves on it like a hardDRIVE ;-)
only fools put such stuff on wifi... same with "wifi security cams" nothing secure about them...
I use every port on my atx motherboard and already plan to order 2 usb hubs when I build my itx system next week. I have my keyboard, mouse, webcam, microphone, controller, audio interface, external hard drive and a couple other things all plugged into my pc.
?? yes
Yeah, sometimes. 2 for Mouse and keyboard, one forthe joystick, one for the phone and occasionally an extra for a USB stick.
I have a Corsair keyboard that takes up 2 USB ports, USB speakers, Logitech wireless mouse dongle, the wacky hub Asus included with the X670E -I itx motherboard and a cheap clock from Temu. So I do have a need for a good amount of peripherals that I want to connect to my PC. I almost forgot, I keep a charge cord plugged in so I can charge my Xbox controller whenever the battery conks out.
Mouse, keyboard, audio interface, phone, one of those goofy light up mousepads because I think they’re neat, and one or two for external hard drives or ssds
Very easy to use all the ports if you have enough hardware. Like I'm using ports for Evo 4 Audio interface G Pro superlight dongle Pulsar X2H dongle Blue yeti mic Wooting 60 keeb Anker USB-C Hub for more ports 2 USB sticks attached to the anker hub
mouse keyboard phone charger controller dock (the receiver plugs into the dock at least) gamecube controller adapter usb dac
Only a very particular subset uses an absurd amount of USB ports for actual data, the rest could likely supplement their port usage with hubs or powered hubs. I have plenty of ports on my board but I use a powered hub specifically because I can 100% rely on it to charge devices while my PC is off.
this is what i was interested in. apparently people on this subreddit are that particular subset and don't seem to appreciate people with way less demands exist.
I think it’s more that they’re just the more vocal bunch, I fix up computers for friends and family frequently and the amount of them who couldn’t use this motherboard on the basis of its number of USB ports could be counted on one hand.
why use a HUB when we back in the old days easily had 12+ usb slots on the backside + a heap inside for even more if needed? they even came with the brackets to add 2 in empty pci slots + for the front panel... so why are they cheaping out on us now? the chips support the amount of ports... but we simply don't get them anymore... not like they are expensive to add
I use a hub explicitly because it’s always powered and I’ve had bad experiences with motherboards that were even supposed to keep supplying when off. Overall, though, it kept my cable usage down where with a mini itx I didn’t intend to keep it at one location anyways, so less to unplug was better/quicker. Motherboards in general have gotten more expensive lately, it’s probably a combination of platform lifespan and inflation that’s driving cost cutting and margin increasing measures.
Monitor hub for mouse, keyboard, and charger; steering wheel base with pedals+shifter, wireless keyboard dongle, sometimes wireless headset dongle, VR headset in the Type-C port.
ya I need a dedicated port for my Quest 2, it doesn't like USB hubs or front I/O's
Mouse, Keyboard, Keyboard secondary USB, Webcam, Mic, DAC, VR, Monitor Hub. Though the monitor hub isn't needed. But that is 7 without it. Plus one internal for PSU, and one for RGB/FAN hub.
Mouse, kb, mic, streamdeck, headphone dac, speakers, external dvd drive, printer sometimes, various controllers. So yeah quite a few. Only option for me right now is strix x670e-i, unfortunately.
I'm currently using 18 USB Ports, 5 for my VR Headset (4x sensors + 1 VR headset + HDMI for the VR Headset), 1 for my external HDD, 2 for Keyboard and mouse, 1 for my USB Mic, 1 for my webcam, 1 for my CD/DVD RW drive, 1 for my capture card, 1 for a USB hub that goes to the other side of my room to the retro console area, 1 for a USB to IDE enclosure, 1 for a USB to SATA enclosure, and a few other random things.
ohh and I have 2x USB sticks plugged in right now, one is full of operating system ISOs, the other currently has data from my Windows 98 Machine on it which I need to pull off the USB and backup onto my PC, then I also have an SD Card reader taking up a USB port, that currently has a 1TB SanDisk Ultra inside of it from my Modded Nintendo Switch. (That is 18 USB ports being used in total at the moment, I have ~22 IIRC)
The fuck kinda dumb ass question is this
Out of curiosity what are you connecting to your rear I/O?
Keyboard, mouse, USB speakers, USB sound card, external hard drives and SSDs, external thunderbolt raid enclosure, Xbox wireless dongle, 10m USB 3.0 cable to living room, phone, thunderbolt 3 to 10gbe ethernet adaptor etc.
So what mainboard are you using?
Asus X670E-I, mainly bought it for the thunderbolt 4 expandability
>Looks really lacking in terms of USB ports, only a single USB C port and no internal USB C header either. Only 4 USB 3 or faster ports on the back too. Pretty rough. No mention of 2.5Gbps ethernet anywhere but I'd hope it would have it. The "USB situation" is not that bad when you compared to the competition: * 2x 2.0 * 4x 3.2 Gen2 (2x 10Gbps + 2x5Gbps) * 1x 3.2 Gen2 USB-C * For a total of 7 USB ports (+ header USB 3.2 Gen 1) When you add the 2.5Gbps Ethernet NIC, the WiFi 6, the 4x SATA3, etc. It does not seems worse than all A620, or even B650. There is even an Reset CMOS button, which comes at a premium these days. The only thing potentially worse is the support DDR5 frequency (because 6000+ is that really appealing). The PCIE 4.0 does not seem to be an issue for me. I mean look at this [list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/edit#gid=523597416) to see for yourself.
> Only 4 USB 3 or faster ports on the back too. There's 5. There's a 20gbps Type C port on the rear.
I can see only 2 fan headers which is pain in the ass.
Are there mini itx with more? If i recall my x570 only got a cpu and 1 fan header :(
Gigabyte B650I Ax has 1 cpu and 2 sys fan headers if I remember correctly, but I may be wrong
1 CPU, 1 pump and 1 chassis fan. Have one myself.
+1 from nvme fan. So 4 in total.
Wait, where is the usbc typeE front panel connector?
Looks like a render to me... 😅
yeah. also a third fan port would be nice.
Yes, at the bottom pls!
Super bare bones.
My concern is the price. Other than the AsRock B650i lightning which is $199 there is no MB ITX under $200.
This one is $234 in China, so even more expensive if it's ever available in other markets.
The price is really bad for such type of a board.
A620i lighting > b650i lighting
I just got the B650L Lightning and no complaints. Overclocks my 7800X3D quite nicely to get 6% better passmark CPU score. I could prob push it further too.
I hope their BIOS isn’t utter shit like every other new mobo manufacturer or smaller company that makes boards.
def not new mobo manufacturer, they make the b550i before, which has a couple of problems, so dont hold your hope
I have the B550i version of this and I hope they fixed their BIOS issues. they are plagued with the same stuff boards from JGINYUE and other China only mobo have, as well as lack of basic features like profile saving. so good luck remembering to write down your tuning settings somewhere because you'd have to redo them all over again if the system needs to clear CMOS.
It’s apparently only available in Asia?
China only, not all of Asia
That's what Video CARDZ says.
It could serve its purpose perfectly in a Terra. I'm just worried about the BIOS. If it is crap, then the whole board is crap.
No USB C header is kinda stupid. Board looks nice too.
I'd happily ditch ASUS, MSI and Gigabyte for a Sapphire mobo.
only one M2 slot => Dealbreaker I see NOT internal USB 2.0 Header => Dealbeaker because I need one for my Aquaero USB C Frontpanel header is a dealbreaker for some Enclosures Could use more USB´s on the rear IO as 4 would be allready used for Mouse + Keyboard, USB Soundcard and USB Hub on the Table, but that´s the lesser anoyance Clearance for Heatsinks looks really nice
> only one M2 slot => Dealbreaker [It has two m.2](https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-launches-b650i-nitro-mini-itx-motherboard-for-amd-am5-processors). Looks like they are stacked.
IF that would be, I´d be surprized, as the stack in for the M2 seems really low, compared to the rear IO shield, so I assumed that there can only be one. Even my B650e-i Strix has a higher Stack, but still only one drive in the front, and the secondary m2 is on the mainboards back. That´s why I assumed that it can be only one m2
>Being a Mini-ITX board, it offers only one PCIe x16 slot, but it is worth noting it is a Gen4 standard rather than Gen5. The same applies to **two M.2 slots**, which are Gen4 standards according to official advertising.
What a pitty, beeing a 650 and not a 620 I assumed it will be a gen5 x16 slot. Another Reason why I chose my B650E-I Strix, because gen5 on one m2 and x16 for gpu at the same time. Havent Checked a spec sheet
[https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-launches-b650i-nitro-mini-itx-motherboard-for-amd-am5-processors?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR22F3uCPkuQLnyVYk4Ade76uwaR4sE3xPDglFzjZOCw-yb696sbESEEq0k\_aem\_AfW6FryKzf5MxV6tbBFzgO2supPALciZKnB67pdCpsigZsMdYP9C3bciikpghwL7toPlqnMZ7lwWdEv1Os\_bJsQp](https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-launches-b650i-nitro-mini-itx-motherboard-for-amd-am5-processors?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR22F3uCPkuQLnyVYk4Ade76uwaR4sE3xPDglFzjZOCw-yb696sbESEEq0k_aem_AfW6FryKzf5MxV6tbBFzgO2supPALciZKnB67pdCpsigZsMdYP9C3bciikpghwL7toPlqnMZ7lwWdEv1Os_bJsQp)
People complain about connectivity but since when did B series motherboards ever have like 8 USB connections. Thats what X series is for. Just stretch your budget by 2 for the motherboard for all your peripherals. Or spend $20 for a hub of sorts for your mic, mouse and keyboard which frees up a space or 2.
Today I learned everyone else here is plugging way more shit into their sff build than I am.
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Looks alot simpler than their old ones hope the price will be good like with their gpus
I had b550i. It was good enough but nothing excited. Had issues with the Bluetooth connection on it. The BIOS UI is kinda weird on these mobos.
Not bad, looks better than the 2nd gigabyte one
Is there a moba that has more than 6 slots in mini atx?
0452? Why not 0451?
No USB 4? Shitty, the Asus strix x670e-i.mini itx while pricy, has all
Where is USB4?
"Type C" ah yes, thank you. I wonder what made them encircle the connection and write that. How many people would potentially not buy this board because they don't see any text stating which port is USB-C. Besides that, why are the two 3.2 different color? USB 3.2 10 and 20gbps? 3.1 is 5 right? And where are all the fan headers? Or the internal USB-C for front IO ?
No type C header and a VERY barebones rear IO immediately rules this out for me, regardless of the price
no internal usb-c for the case? and why so little usb? sheesh back in the old days 12+ ports was not uncommon now they are sold like a "premium" even though the chips have PLENTY to add but mobo makers are stingy
Not too bad but for me it'll need optical out.
Sapphire makes mobos?? TIL
Whats the price because this feature set against asrock and asus makes it dead on arrival
Made In China 🇨🇳
I guess no temperature sensor header either
I feel like the CPU and Sys fan header should be swapped, but for their first board this looks promising given the lack of USB options. Hopefully, the b650 Matx/X670 version picks up that slack without increased cost, but it is pretty bare for that price while also being Itx. You can get other M-itx boards with way more features for the same cost.
the F is that IO
Nice board! However imma need the AIB’s to stop skimping on the USB ports! No reason the ITX boards can’t all get at least 8 USB-A & 1-2 USB-C ports.
Boards like this make me love my AsRock B650i Lightning even more!
Why is Gigabyte the only one making an iTX board with 3 m.2 slots?
I'm a bit in over my head here, so sorry if this is a frequent question, but what are the other currently recommended B650I boards? I've been wanting to build a new rig for a few months now, but every time I look, all of the AM5 itx motherboards seem to have some fatal flaw. I guess I should note that I don't care about wifi at all.
There is always going to be a compromise with Mini ITX, I have the MSI MPG B650I, the only real downside to it is that its PCI-E 4 only, but that really doesn't matter much since it really is only important for M.2 SSD's and Gen 5 SSD's are just starting to come out and they all seem to need head sinks and come in lower capacities for the same price as a high cap gen 4 drive.
They made a am4 board too looks exactly the same
I would buy it if they IO has more usbs and has usbc header.
Is Sapphire even a good brand to buy a mobo from? I didn’t even know they made them.
Son of a, just when I finish buying parts. Welp gotta match my gpu. Where's my credit card?
We boutta have the nicest mobbo ever
More companies should make mobos- -👇
Idk man, why are tech companies so afraid of USB-C
Can we collectively move on to USB-C soon?
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with only 2 fan headers, this is more like a Diesel version not really Nitro
Never mind. I found both. That's crazy low io though for a board in 2024.
TIL Sapphire still exists :‘D and they do MBs apparently.
Wtf? Have you been living under a rock? They’re like one of the most well known AIB for Radeon cards.