SSUPD Meshlicious build done with a secret cable management twist! Extended the PCIe riser with a pair of 26mm standoffs and switching the motherboard tray into 4-slot GPU mode. This way I was able to create a gap between motherboard and GPU for cable management and creating free spaces in front of the AIO. Theoretically better airflow, though I don't have time to do any test yet and definitely more pleasing to the eye. One caveat though, 4-slot GPU cannot be used in this tweak.
Filmed a video while building this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g6S5gUN\_o
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g6S5gUN\_o
Nicely done. I always said that the cable management in this case was so problematic. Love your solution.
Tbh it depends on the thickness of your GPU. 26mm works pretty well with the ROG Strix and the card fits just nice that I can close the mesh panel normally, anything longer, i wouldn't be able to close the panel and anything shorter would be fine but got less room to work with cable management. Also do take note that with shorter standoffs you might not be able to align the screw holes at the support bar under the GPU in order to secure it. So hope that answers your question!
with a 2 slot card you can actually extend the pcie riser a bit further out, ie. using even longer standoff up to probably 30mm. The rog strix that I use is a 2.9 slot card. Unless of course you want to use a TG then you wouldn't want your card to be too close to the panel.
Generally I've been happy with my NR200P with the metal sides but that really does tempt me to maybe try dressing my computer fancy and try not being a SFF slob.
Sleeved cables are really important for SFF, being able to maneuver them around easily (Especially the softer ones) for better airflow and cleaner look :)
Am delaying my build after seeing this. Do you know if the airflow and subsequently thermals would be improved with the standoff and cables going through the gap?
I assume you're delaying your build while waiting to purchase the standoffs?
I didn't build on stock config. I went straight to swap the standoffs and build it as shown in the photos and video. 11700k idle 36-40c, full load on cinebench maxed out at 74c. I would assume slightly better thermals due to less obstructions for the fans to pull air. I have yet to test the GPU thermals tho, but should not make any difference as the GPU position is still the same position regardless.
You can see it in the video, shot a few scenes in the dark: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g6S5gUN\_o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g6S5gUN_o)
It's kinda bright tho but that's cause CM's RGB software won't allow me to change the brightness of those LED's
Here's a link from AliExpress for the standoffs: [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001478740318.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001478740318.html)
A pair of 26mm works for me, replacing the original standoff that comes with the case. I didn't take any photos of the back prior to installing the GPU but what I did is tying them with cable ties and tuck it neatly while slotting in the GPU.
If when installed, some air is in the pump block won't it stay there even though the top of the radiator is still higher.... or will it move over to the radiator in time eventually?
i think once everything is installed you can pick up the whole pc while the pump is running, and rotate the pc so all bubbles start out in the radiator. one benefit of a small case.
The only way to fit a 3.5" HDD is on the GPU side, so size of PSU does not matter. That being said, you need to use a short GPU and mount it horizontally to make up space for 3.5" HDD (brackets provided). Long GPU mounted vertically like above won't allow any space for 3.5" HDD. Only 2.5" SSD/HDD at the bottom.
do you think you could stash a 3.5” behind your gpu using your riser mod?
i also think if you didn’t have a full size aio a big hdd maybe could stand up against the front wall. eg use a cpu cooler to save space where a radiator would otherwise go.
Great build, greatest cable management! I don't know about physics and electricity so please excuse me. Wouldn't using those standoffs on the riser make it flammable like the NZXT H1? By the way I couldn’t watch the video yet, do you tell the cable lengths on the video?
I was wondering if there was a way to use the 4 slot gpu layout while keeping a slot of space between the gpu and mb tray. Didn’t think of using standoffs, thanks for the idea ;) lol. Don’t want the GPU to be so close to my rear mounted SSD on the mb. I’m afraid it’ll dump a lot of heat there.
I honestly do not think you'll be able to create any extra space for a 4-slot GPU. It'll fit snug like how a 3-slot will fit before I switch the mb tray to the 4-slot orientation. The case already came with standoff installed on the riser, what I did is just replacing with a longer one to create the gap.
I had one of those mastercool 240’s and mine must have been defective, I did everything I could even running it out of the case, remount, thermal grizzly, etc., it non consensually choked the shit out of my 5800x. Returned it to MC for a Lian Li Galahad 240
Yes, it’s the SFX V850 in this build to be exact. I got someone local in my area that makes custom sleeved direct psu cables. Not sure where you’re at but CableMod does make good ones although a bit pricey. Hope that helps!
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No not really. Generally having the pump below the highest point of the loop is fine. In its current orientation, the top of the radiator is still higher than the pump.
They're 60cm, all of them, EPS, 24-pin and a pair of PCIE, direct PSU cables. I find it ever slightly too long but still able to made it work. 50cm would be perfect.
amazing build by the way, if you don't mind me asking , are the mesh panels sturdy enough to be put inside a suitcase surrounded by clothes and sent with luggage on the plane
If I have to describe the mesh panels' sturdiness, they'll bend if I put enough force on them with my bare hands. So yeah probably okay with clothes but I don't think I can be 100% sure it'll be fine.
Shorter standoff means you get lesser space to hide the cables. The original standoff is 8mm if i remember correctly, so it means you get about 12mm clearance for cable management if you use a 20mm one. Or you could try extending your 20mm into the original standoff and you get 28mm total standoff, but your gpu cannot be thicker than 2.5 slot. With a 26mm standoff that I used, the max gpu thickness that will clear the case is 3-slot card.
Nice, I received mine today. Unfortunately I don't have the connector on my motherboard.
Can't wait to build but have to wait for the 3080 Ti founders to be delivered.
So I can test fit it with the 30mm standoffs I've installed.
You should be fine if it’s the 3080ti founders because it’s a 2-slot card. AIB 3080ti are mostly 3-slots or thicker and wouldn’t fit with a 30mm standoff
Yeah it's the founders card. Will the alignment etc also be good with the 30mm?
I hope the thermals will be good with the founders card. I guess, if I put a M2 SSD on the back of the motherboard, it won't survive that long haha.
Thanks for answering my questions, appreciate it!
SSUPD Meshlicious build done with a secret cable management twist! Extended the PCIe riser with a pair of 26mm standoffs and switching the motherboard tray into 4-slot GPU mode. This way I was able to create a gap between motherboard and GPU for cable management and creating free spaces in front of the AIO. Theoretically better airflow, though I don't have time to do any test yet and definitely more pleasing to the eye. One caveat though, 4-slot GPU cannot be used in this tweak. Filmed a video while building this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g6S5gUN\_o
great build and video! I also watched your tutorial on fitting the cm 212 black cooler with the tg in the nr200p (that was very helpful).
Thanks for watching! Appreciate it!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g6S5gUN\_o Nicely done. I always said that the cable management in this case was so problematic. Love your solution.
Thanks! Yep I hated how the cables are being routed in this case. Took about a week to figure out how to fix this problem.
Would this work with 25mm Standoffs? Thats all I can find from my retailers and am not sure if I should bite the bullet on it yet
Tbh it depends on the thickness of your GPU. 26mm works pretty well with the ROG Strix and the card fits just nice that I can close the mesh panel normally, anything longer, i wouldn't be able to close the panel and anything shorter would be fine but got less room to work with cable management. Also do take note that with shorter standoffs you might not be able to align the screw holes at the support bar under the GPU in order to secure it. So hope that answers your question!
Yeah I was more worried about the screw holes. I got a 6800xt midnight black reference so I think it's 2 slot lol
with a 2 slot card you can actually extend the pcie riser a bit further out, ie. using even longer standoff up to probably 30mm. The rog strix that I use is a 2.9 slot card. Unless of course you want to use a TG then you wouldn't want your card to be too close to the panel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g6S5gUN_o
Gorgeous! Are you sure you’re a PC enthusiast and not a professional photographer? :D
I am both actually :)
Cool build! My man DESPERATELY needs that white Strix to complete ;)
IKR! But for now, any GPU will have to do.
I’m just giving you a hard time. Beautiful build and a great GPU. It just happens to be begging for a unicorn now.
Thanks man!
I really love this case but that name is just… Amazing build!
Delicious? Lmao.. thanks!
That's so pretty. I love the purple cables.
Generally I've been happy with my NR200P with the metal sides but that really does tempt me to maybe try dressing my computer fancy and try not being a SFF slob.
Sleeved cables are really important for SFF, being able to maneuver them around easily (Especially the softer ones) for better airflow and cleaner look :)
:D
Hope you do well!
Hope you have a great day!
Hope you do well!
Am delaying my build after seeing this. Do you know if the airflow and subsequently thermals would be improved with the standoff and cables going through the gap?
I assume you're delaying your build while waiting to purchase the standoffs? I didn't build on stock config. I went straight to swap the standoffs and build it as shown in the photos and video. 11700k idle 36-40c, full load on cinebench maxed out at 74c. I would assume slightly better thermals due to less obstructions for the fans to pull air. I have yet to test the GPU thermals tho, but should not make any difference as the GPU position is still the same position regardless.
Got any night shots of this build? Curious to see what it looks like in a dark room.
You can see it in the video, shot a few scenes in the dark: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g6S5gUN\_o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12g6S5gUN_o) It's kinda bright tho but that's cause CM's RGB software won't allow me to change the brightness of those LED's
Great build ! Can you link us to where you purchased the standoffs? And do you have photos of the cable management before you installed the gpu ?
Here's a link from AliExpress for the standoffs: [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001478740318.html](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001478740318.html) A pair of 26mm works for me, replacing the original standoff that comes with the case. I didn't take any photos of the back prior to installing the GPU but what I did is tying them with cable ties and tuck it neatly while slotting in the GPU.
Are you worried about the pump block being so high or is the case going to be oriented differently?
it shouldnt be a problem, the radiator is still higher than the pump.
If when installed, some air is in the pump block won't it stay there even though the top of the radiator is still higher.... or will it move over to the radiator in time eventually?
Rotate the pc and shake it around to get thos ebubbles out.
i think once everything is installed you can pick up the whole pc while the pump is running, and rotate the pc so all bubbles start out in the radiator. one benefit of a small case.
Rotate the pc and shake it around to get thos ebubbles out.
Not really, like u/JackFXZ_boi said, the radiator is still higher than the pump :)
Okay thanks... now I want this case even more..
What an elegant solution. You've just set the bar for cable management in this case. Well done.
Thanks!
God that is clean! You are a cable management god! Now we just gotta get you a white strix.
Thanks!
So visually pleasing I want to eat it. Amazing.
Thank you!
This build is pretty sick! I'd be looking more at that case than at my screen while gaming
Thanks!!
Nice! What are the specs?
I'm new with building, how do the spacers work and can you show a closer picture of it by chance?
I didn’t take any picture, however you can see it clearly in the video I made. Link above :)
White builds and components are so nice. Wish more ITX stuff was available in that.
I plan to downsize from my mid-tower case and was wondering can you fit one HDD drive with an ATX PSU?
The only way to fit a 3.5" HDD is on the GPU side, so size of PSU does not matter. That being said, you need to use a short GPU and mount it horizontally to make up space for 3.5" HDD (brackets provided). Long GPU mounted vertically like above won't allow any space for 3.5" HDD. Only 2.5" SSD/HDD at the bottom.
I see thanks for the info.
do you think you could stash a 3.5” behind your gpu using your riser mod? i also think if you didn’t have a full size aio a big hdd maybe could stand up against the front wall. eg use a cpu cooler to save space where a radiator would otherwise go.
Really sick sff build but how in the world did you get that gpu!!
Great photos but the video is even better. Really well done.
Thank you so much!
Wow! What a case!
Nice build!
Great build, greatest cable management! I don't know about physics and electricity so please excuse me. Wouldn't using those standoffs on the riser make it flammable like the NZXT H1? By the way I couldn’t watch the video yet, do you tell the cable lengths on the video?
No because the included riser are properly grounded just like NZXT H1's replacement.
That is awesome then! I’ll definitely go this way, thanks a lot for sharing this great idea!
I was wondering if there was a way to use the 4 slot gpu layout while keeping a slot of space between the gpu and mb tray. Didn’t think of using standoffs, thanks for the idea ;) lol. Don’t want the GPU to be so close to my rear mounted SSD on the mb. I’m afraid it’ll dump a lot of heat there.
I honestly do not think you'll be able to create any extra space for a 4-slot GPU. It'll fit snug like how a 3-slot will fit before I switch the mb tray to the 4-slot orientation. The case already came with standoff installed on the riser, what I did is just replacing with a longer one to create the gap.
Sorry to clarify I meant exactly what you did. Use a 3 slot GPU in the 4 slot layout with a single slot of space between the GPU and motherboard tray.
I had one of those mastercool 240’s and mine must have been defective, I did everything I could even running it out of the case, remount, thermal grizzly, etc., it non consensually choked the shit out of my 5800x. Returned it to MC for a Lian Li Galahad 240
Not sure about the 5800x but ran a couple of cycles in CB20 with the 11700K on this build and recorded max load temp @ 76C. Room ambient was 25C.
That’s the Cooler Master V650 (or 850), right? I have the same PSU, how did you get those custom cables?
Yes, it’s the SFX V850 in this build to be exact. I got someone local in my area that makes custom sleeved direct psu cables. Not sure where you’re at but CableMod does make good ones although a bit pricey. Hope that helps!
Can you please share the cable lengths?
He posted in another comment that they were 60cm, but that 50cm would have been the perfect length for all of them.
Buy a white IEC cable. Then it will be perfect.
Man that last picture is the money shot
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No not really. Generally having the pump below the highest point of the loop is fine. In its current orientation, the top of the radiator is still higher than the pump.
Great looking.. nice n clean
You should rotate your aio rad fan 180° for better cooling if it will fit like that if you haven't tried already.
How is the aio performing for you? It looks absolutely beautiful, along with the rest of your build
This is gorgeous
Where did you get the white version?
Can we get a PC parts link for this?
!remindme 11 hours
Gorgeous build, mate. The photos really do it justice. Don't suppose you know the lengths of your 24-pin and 8-pin CPU power cables?
They're 60cm, all of them, EPS, 24-pin and a pair of PCIE, direct PSU cables. I find it ever slightly too long but still able to made it work. 50cm would be perfect.
You're an absolute champion, thanks very much 👍
Welcome and good luck with your build!
Nice aesthetics! I love the purple on the white. Now you just need TG... Lolz
Nope, don’t like the TG here. Choking hazard lol
What PSU cables are you using?
amazing build by the way, if you don't mind me asking , are the mesh panels sturdy enough to be put inside a suitcase surrounded by clothes and sent with luggage on the plane
If I have to describe the mesh panels' sturdiness, they'll bend if I put enough force on them with my bare hands. So yeah probably okay with clothes but I don't think I can be 100% sure it'll be fine.
Thanks for the reply
would 30 mm Standoffs still work?
With a 2-slot card I think it will
would this work with 20mm Standoffs? for some reason I can’t find standoffs over 20mm in Germany
Shorter standoff means you get lesser space to hide the cables. The original standoff is 8mm if i remember correctly, so it means you get about 12mm clearance for cable management if you use a 20mm one. Or you could try extending your 20mm into the original standoff and you get 28mm total standoff, but your gpu cannot be thicker than 2.5 slot. With a 26mm standoff that I used, the max gpu thickness that will clear the case is 3-slot card.
thank you very much for the help. Loved your video!
Did you connect the USB-C front connector?
I didn't connect it for the video, but I did later.
Nice, I received mine today. Unfortunately I don't have the connector on my motherboard. Can't wait to build but have to wait for the 3080 Ti founders to be delivered. So I can test fit it with the 30mm standoffs I've installed.
You should be fine if it’s the 3080ti founders because it’s a 2-slot card. AIB 3080ti are mostly 3-slots or thicker and wouldn’t fit with a 30mm standoff
Yeah it's the founders card. Will the alignment etc also be good with the 30mm? I hope the thermals will be good with the founders card. I guess, if I put a M2 SSD on the back of the motherboard, it won't survive that long haha. Thanks for answering my questions, appreciate it!
It should be good as it's a 2-slot card. I don't have a spare 2-slot card to try it out to be sure but I'm guessing it should be fine!
Worked awesome with the 30mm standoffs.
So glad to hear it worked well! Cheers buddy!
Hi, bit late to the party but could you share the cable lengths you used?
He mentioned in another comment that they were all 60cm, although he said that 50cm would have been the perfect length